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JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 16:12 GMT
#245
Hello my darlings!
I am finally awake after my sleep and will go through it all. I'm on page 11.
Will give my BMK list shortly!
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 17:21 GMT
#248
Okay, I've read up and boy it's confusing to jump back in when you've been away for a while.
Instead I'm going to filter dive you all and form my BMK list.

Here's a general overview of every player in the game:

meatplayer
You're being a bit different from last time we played together. It could have something to do with the fact that we actually didn't get to play that much last time with me dying and you being inactive.
that said, I've liked your reads so far, although I'm not sure about MihZaaaa, and I'd like to see what more you can give further in to the game.
Another thing to note, I didn't take what you said about looking into my heart as a soft claim. I just thought you were making fluff. And I still do, even after others have pointed it out.

lilwade
lilwade, lilwade, wherefore art though, lilwade?!
Your filter is insanely short... It's almost like Daydreamarine's and his is next to non-existing. However, you are being similar to last game we played together, so that's at least a good thing, although not alignment indicative.
There was something I picked up in one of your posts, that I will not share, but I'm willing to give you a pass for today. You've asked some questions, poking and prodding at people. I'd like to see you make a list of your reads. (If you haven't already by the time I post this.)

Gobblegobblegobble
The way you came in at the start of the game and just stated your role thing felt really awkward and a bit offputting, to be honest. Especially since we could all be doing that and it would lead to nothing.
You made a scumduo which I felt was a bit too soon to find, and I didn't agree on it. You later withdrew it due to reading abuse as town and that I wholeheartedly agree with.
I didn't like your comment on Superbia's big thread that he made it hard to read intentionally. I don't see why anyone would do that no matter what alignment. I do see what you mean by saying that Superbia is twisting abuse's words and I agree that he is, how can I phrase this, taking 1 and 1 and making 11 rather than 2.
All of this said, I don't appreciate your general attitude in most of your posts and probably wouldn't be sad to see you go, whether you're town or not.
See below for example:
I'm sorry that you can't see my arguments. You may want to invest in correction lenses.


MihZaa
My most flipfloppy read this entire game. You have me going back and forth like a newton's cradle.
Your idea of me wanting to swap my playstyle to be less towny in order to not die, is flawed and I'm writing it down as you just not really knowing yet what is the most beneficial play for yourself when you play mafia games.
However, you then flipped on your own idea when you said you thought I'd been more reluctant to take the mic so hard day 1 if I had been mafia. So what is it? Am I less out there when I'm mafia or town? Make your mind up.

This is taking soooo long. I have to go make dinner now. Will continue with the rest of you while I eat!
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 19:30 GMT
#249
Barakos
To start with I have a question. Do you usually answer your own questions before you let the person you ask answer? "Hey, I'm feeling awesome today, how are you?".
I agree that if abuse had never answered the question himself, it would have been scummy. But to call him out on it so shortly after the question is a bit odd I think.
On Abuse:
I didn't like you posting questions before answering them yourself...

You agreed with me on the soft-claim not really seeming like a soft claim, which could mean numerous things. I know why I felt that way, but even though you explained it, I have yet to truly figure out why.
You picked up on the same thing I did about Superbia and his flawed maths, so that means you're paying attention and you chose to phrase it by asking rather than accusing, which I liked.
You are creating conversation with people, putting your logic out there, taking theirs in. You take everyone into consideration, not leaving anyone out, which I like.
There's really no need for you rethink your standpoint on me, Barakos. But again, some general suspicion is healthy.

Breshke
You do next to nothing for me, sorry not sorry!
I can agree on certain things you say and the way you read people. But I don't like the lack of proper contribution.
Who's in your towncircle and who's in your mafiacircle?

abuse
Your questions did nothing for me, I thought there are way better questions people can ask but you came with an idea of how you wanted to spark conversation and read people. Having a plan to figure new people out is great. Personally I tend to just wing it and find oddities in they way they say things. It's not always the content they provide that makes me see them as scummy but the way they say it. Anyways, moving on.
If you read my question to Barakos you know where I stand on the whole "didn't answer his own question first" thing. I'm completely on your side with that thing. I'm glad you did answer it though, but more importantly explained as to why you did it. That generated more of an insight about you than us answering your questions, because let's face it, they weren't all that gamebreaking.
Why you don't see things I do as being towny is fine. You're wrong, but it's fine. We're all different people and read things differently. Not going to hold that against you, or anyone else for that matter.
You then said this:
I feel that Barakos and Mihzaaa give townie vibes, because they give thought out posts and pose questions in a non attacking manner

While I agree that is the case, at least about Barakos, I feel others that you are neutral on have done the exact same thing.
That makes me wonder why are you willing to say this for them but not the others,for example me?
You later on said this:
I like that she does reply to every question she has been asked, and she does not do it half-heartedly, but with thought out posts. What she says does make sense, though she has not really made a big play yet in my opinion. I would love to see Jenny's current read list compilation on everyone involved.

So when did my posts become thought out enough for you? Oh, and here you go, the compilation you wanted!
All in all I agree with most of your reads.

Superbia
I like your start, you were asking questions, trying to find out things about people.
You then followed with your +1 -1 post which did nothing for me. It was, like others have stated, an abomination. Next to impossible to follow. Most of it was "alright" and you giving me a -1 for pointing out a different behaviour in someone is ridiculous. After I explained it to you, like you asked me to, you said you thought it was like I explained. So why the -1?
You then didn't even follow your own math, and was called out for it.
Your question about the excel file made me laugh because I can picture you sitting there reading through all posts and go "Ooh, +1 for you. Gold star in the corner!".
The soft-claim ordeal was just plain dumb and I'd like us to move on from that. He's even explained himself that he wasn't soft-claiming.
You've been reading way too much in to things people say, and making the wrong assumption, perhaps even so wrong that you end up bending their words to your will. It feels really off.
You ask a lot of questions which generally is a good thing but I can't shake this feeling that you're digging for ways to go at people rather than trying to solve this game.
Also, can you like.. try to avoid stupidly long posts? They're a pain to read and filtering you is doing my head in.
This goes for everyone. Can we do it short and sweet, and if you really need to do a long post, can we keep them to a minimum or at least divide them up?
No, I did not die. I threw babies at knights and I cursed the Great Knight Tao to inflict himself harm until death. It was a productive event and I leveled up, yay me!

Daydreamarine
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA *facepalm*
You have a lot of catching up to do, sweetie. Can't wait to see what you have to bring.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 19:35 GMT
#250
Before I give my BMK list I'd like to further express 2 things.

1.) We all need to make shorter concise posts, so that mafia can't hide in the big posts. It's much easier when they have time to make their big posts that they can make more sense. Just fyi.

2.) I didn't quite expect people to take my own explanation for how I play as me being neutral. Did I scare you all from thinking I'm town? Let me make this clear. Would I play the same? Yes! People should always go out of their way to be as towny as possible. Mafia will have a much harder time being townies than actual townies, would you believe that?! Amazing how it works.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 19:57 GMT
#254
So, here's my BMK list!

Marry
I'm not quite ready to marry someone yet, but I do have a keen eye for Barakos.
How about we do a temporary engagement. Will you be my lovely bride?

Bang
abuse - Just like Rihanna I seem to like it and keep coming back for more.

Meatpuddle - You're different this game, but I'm willing to give you a one night stand.

lilwade - You're the same as last game. Your activity is just as appalling as usual but there's something you said that I'm not even sure you know yourself yet. I'm hoping I'm right on this and I'm willing to bang you, for now.

Daydreamarine - You probably shouldn't even be close to this list but oh my word.. I can't wait to see what you bring. I'm willing to give you a pass just so I can see more of your roleplaying.

Kill
Superbia - You're the one I read the most scummy. I don't get you, man... You're taking things way out of context to where it doesn't feel like it's close to the truth anymore and I dno what to do about you.. Can we just kill you? I feel like you cause more harm than good with the confusion and mess you create. Please, do prove me wrong. I'd love to change my read on you.

MihZaaaa - I don't know how to read you. You're flip floppy and I get flip floppy on you. I don't like being flip floppy. I'm fine with you dying.

Breshke - Your lack of anything substantial is making me dislike you. You need to change that if you want me to start liking you.

Gobblegobblegobble - I don't necessarily see you as scummy, I've agreed on certain things you've said but I just don't appreciate the tone in what you have to say. You are the least scummy out of my kills and the one I'd kill absolutely last.


I get that people may not have the same reads as me, and I'm willing to hear people out. How about we find 2 people we as a town combined most want to get rid of, create a wagon on those two, laying down some pressure and hear them out?
I mean it's only 5 hours left now.

Just in case, here's my vote.

##Vote: Superbia

Willing to change to other wagons should it be better for town.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 20:10 GMT
#256
I just noticed something...

Breshke, what are your thoughts about Gobblegobblegobble and lilwade?
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 20:14 GMT
#257
Superbia, how invested do you feel in this game? Do you feel like you're being misread and if so, what would you be able to do differently to make people see you less scummy? Do you think mafia will try to stay under the radar or go out of their way and be one of the more noticable people?
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 20:20 GMT
#258
Superbia, another thing. What's your current thoughts about abuse? Your vote is on him, do you still feel he's the most likely to be mafia?
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 20:32 GMT
#262
On August 28 2014 05:23 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 05:20 JennyHell wrote:
Superbia, another thing. What's your current thoughts about abuse? Your vote is on him, do you still feel he's the most likely to be mafia?


I'm not sure about him. Many people are reading him town, including MeatPoppy. I'd like to lynch him at some point, but maybe not today? I'll see where my vote goes as the dark approaches.


So if not him, who would you rather see us lynching today?
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 21:01 GMT
#267
Okay!

Seeing your responses to my questions I am beginning to like you a bit more. I'm willing to change my vote from you.
You're probably just misunderstood town.. FFFFf.. haha.
You're getting a townpass for today, I want to see more from you during the night and tomorrow.

I'll instead put my vote on Breshke.

Why I'm choosing him out of my scum reads is because out of my scumreads he's the only one that's manage to skip reading 3 people in the game.
Last game the mafia people didn't have any interactions and didn't even give reads on eachother. I fear that is what Breshke might be doing here.
There's nothing majorly wrong with his logic, but I think it may come from a scum perspective.
I feel Breshke is a good wagon and he himself said he had difficulties posting unless questions are posed to him. So maybe a wagon will make him come out of his shell.

##Unvote
[b]##Vote: Breshke[/b
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 21:02 GMT
#268
Oops, messed up the bold!

##Vote: Breshke
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 22:00 GMT
#274
On August 28 2014 06:42 Barakos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 04:57 JennyHell wrote:
Marry
I'm not quite ready to marry someone yet, but I do have a keen eye for Barakos.
How about we do a temporary engagement. Will you be my lovely bride?


As tempting as it sounds to have you as my bastion of light, hope and all that is good in this world of wickedness... I am afraid I can't fully commit to being your bride right now.

But let's talk some more and see, where it goes from here, shall we?

You say lilwade is playing like last game and therefore have him in your banglist for now, even though he isn't very active.
And at the same time your feeling about meatpudding is, that he plays a different game as last time, yet still you give him enough credit to put him on your banglist - at least for a one night stand.
So my question is - why do you treat both the same, while only one of them is behaving as he used to do in the last game?


It's really simple actually.
Meat is scummy because I don't recognize this side of him, but his logic and his reads makes sense to me even if I don't agree fully on them. I like his approach to the game.

lilwade is acting the same, and although he's not contributed much, I don't feel ready to lynch him this day due to something I noticed that I don't feel comfortable sharing right now.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 22:02 GMT
#276
Gobble - Care to further explain your vote on Superbia?
If we weren't lynching him, who'd you rather see us lynch?
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 22:19 GMT
#280
It's less than 3 hours left. I'd like for people to get more active!
We need more conversation amongst eachother. Short bursts and more people active.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 22:20 GMT
#281
lilwade, even though I get your vote on MihZaaaa, he currently doesn't seem like a possible lynch.

Can we have 2 wagons made?
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 22:24 GMT
#283
1. Breshke
2. Gobblegobblegobble
3. MihZaa

Yes, I've swapped gobble and Mihzaaaa around in kill order, due to gobble sounding so desperate in his last couple of posts.

As a sidenote, Superbia you're getting more and more towny in my eyes from the way you're behaving since my vote on you.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 22:43 GMT
#291
On August 28 2014 07:26 Superbia wrote:
That's.. good? I'm not in your top 3 lynches? I'm assuming you were just pushing on me to get a better read or something?


Like I said as a response to your answers, you made me rethink my stance on you. And you're gaining more and more ground as this day is coming to an end.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 22:51 GMT
#293
On August 28 2014 07:35 lilwade wrote:
Right now I dont feel like either Gobbledydook or superbia are good day 1 lynches, Out of the 2 I would probably go with gobbledydook. Jenny do you think that these two are the right for the bandwagon???


Like I've said before, I've flipped my read on Superbia, I think I misread his super crazy logictrain as scummy when in hindsight it's probably just donkey town.
Later on he's been much more towny and I'm now feeling ok with him.
I do NOT think that Superbia should be one of the wagons.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 22:57 GMT
#296
On August 28 2014 07:53 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 07:51 JennyHell wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:35 lilwade wrote:
Right now I dont feel like either Gobbledydook or superbia are good day 1 lynches, Out of the 2 I would probably go with gobbledydook. Jenny do you think that these two are the right for the bandwagon???


Like I've said before, I've flipped my read on Superbia, I think I misread his super crazy logictrain as scummy when in hindsight it's probably just donkey town.
Later on he's been much more towny and I'm now feeling ok with him.
I do NOT think that Superbia should be one of the wagons.


You're a donkey. I was trying to make shit happen, you can think what you want, maybe I made a miss-play, but please don't dismiss my opinion in the future. Thanks.


TL;DR
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 27 2014 22:58 GMT
#297
Two hours left and we still haven't sorted out proper wagons. This is atrocious! It's like a playground for mafia!
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