Neat & Tidy Mini Mafia

On August 11 2014 21:27 onevone wrote:
You still here Koshi?

On August 11 2014 21:28 onevone wrote:
Oh, I guess not. Unless you've been waiting for hours

On August 11 2014 22:08 onevone wrote:


Again: why?

On August 11 2014 07:49 Koshi wrote:
Jeez, was just trying to get the game started.

I watched Avatar first storyline when I was still pretty young. That brother of the water bender girl was so funny. What a boss. Kora stuff I only watched first season, didn't think it was good. Should I watch it?


I am not going to make this game btw. I'll try to post as little fluff as possible. So I need a town hero that spams this thread and makes people do stuff.

Who will be this hero?

On August 11 2014 23:03 onevone wrote:
Stop it rayn.... Now you're just not reading anymore. I never said that posting about Avatar is scummy. In fact the opposite.

On August 11 2014 23:14 onevone wrote:


When posting about my early observations, not absolutely every word needs to be focused on points that make someone scum. It's definitely also worthwhile to consider towny points and it's not strictly bad to look at null points (although I guess that sentence was quite useless in the end).

On August 12 2014 00:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
But Koshi and rayn are blowing some things wayyyyy out of proportion and it makes it hard to properly think about the case vs you since there are definitely good parts in it that are being obscured by silly arguments.

On August 12 2014 01:06 onevone wrote:


You have to take into account that I posted that before rayn started posting on me. Before that he was just posting non-content one-liners like these:





It's a bit unfair to say that I'm "wrong about a lot" without even showing me anything I've been wrong about :/

On August 12 2014 01:30 Sn0_Man wrote:

Surely you remember how differently we read things. The real "blowing things out of proportion" push was koshi's but regardless, a quick example of a post of yours that I think is pushing on the wrong fronts

1) I don't give "town" reads early either. I say things like "I like x's posting" etc. Words like "town" are strong, to me.
2) wats the issue with "so far"? Literally every early day-1 vote is obivously a "so far" vote unless you somehow can't unvote. I do now agree that the read was responded to well by koshi regarding MM1 clearly trying to foster a helpful thread environment which isn't something that I saw earlier, which means that I don't like his weak bandwagon vote here anymore.
3/4) Null reads early day 1 are more a lack of a read than "clearly null", unless theres been some serious discussion.

Basically you just push on points that I don't agree with. Koshi has some sensible ideas and some I don't agree with as well, but I wasn't about to defend 1v1 on the silly points until he'd given a long accounting for himself (which I feel like he has by now).

PS: anybody know who posts infinite smily faces in threads? 1v1 keeps doing it and its both annoying and suck-up-ish.

On August 12 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:

Koshi's push on the "avatar" bit see:
To me, its obvious here that what made MM1 1v1's vote candidate was his response to VE's pressure and the Kush/VE votes indicating that others agreed with him. Which really isn't a town mindset but is also not what Koshi was trying to push on him. Which is why I felt like you two weren't necessarily pushing on the right axis and it made it hard to read.

Hence,

On August 12 2014 01:52 onevone wrote:
Honestly I'm a bit surprised nobody guessed who I am yet.

On August 12 2014 03:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
the last time I felt this strongly about it was with Regy that last game, and I was right about him. You should go with me on this.

On August 12 2014 05:26 Sn0_Man wrote:
Everybody always plays Day 1 like scummy mofos or something this shit's the worst

On August 12 2014 05:55 onevone wrote:


You have one of the shorter filters in the game that has several posts like this + one-liner reads with no basis + an exaggerated and ill-founded tunnel on me.

On August 12 2014 06:01 onevone wrote:


Is Haru scummy or just a policy lynch to you? I think some of the same logic applies to him as to batsnacks. I don't think I've ever seen scum open in a way that's totally bad/useless.

On August 12 2014 06:04 onevone wrote:


You have 2 pages. A lot of people have 3+. You have only one-liner reads with no basis if you don't count me. Your tunnel on me is ill-founded. Everything is true. What is untrue?

Not calling you scum atm, pretty much just null. Why don't you try to fix those problems if you are indeed town?

On August 12 2014 17:07 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah i guess haru. Ive been going through filters and I can't find people I want to vote.

##haru

On August 12 2014 17:46 Onegu wrote:
Because I can read rayn, and iirc have always been correct when reading him.

On August 12 2014 19:23 onevone wrote:


I agree, but at the same time... What happened to your scumread on me?

On August 12 2014 22:02 onevone wrote:


He basically said that everyone except KoC, Haru, batsnacks and VE feel town. Not exactly a scumread but close to it.

On August 12 2014 22:10 onevone wrote:
You should read too, rayn. I didn't say that you called batsnacks scum. Just that you don't townread him unlike you do most other players, which makes him a potential lynch candidate to you by process of elimination. At least logically. Thus "not exactly a scumread but close to it".

1)MM1 called 1v1 town, but 1v1 called MM1 scum. It is almost like they chose to talk about each other just so that they have content about one another.

[....]
Leaning town: MM1 (he always die early and is always the lynch target)
[...]
1v1 (his reads feels forced and rehearsed, almost a perfect copy each time he gives his list)

2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.

VE (his reads are not consistent)

I circled (koshi townreads sn0, changes to wanting to lynch him for lying, then changes to liking him) in my notebook.

On August 12 2014 22:20 onevone wrote:
(Dunno why mentioning rayn there makes him scum still)

On August 12 2014 22:35 HaruRH wrote:


I had a feeling you were referring to batsnacks when you said this btw, on how he is just repeatedly attacking kotc when everyone have already pointed that shit out.

On August 12 2014 22:57 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn i'm interested in why you think haru is scum, because i don't quite get your case and haru looking pretty town to me

On August 12 2014 23:13 HaruRH wrote:


Show me a game where I made sense d1 and youre allowed to lynch me right here right now.

On August 12 2014 23:19 Onegu wrote:
You make sense to me rayn <3

On August 12 2014 23:24 onevone wrote:


You made sense to me at some point, but less so in later games. Granted you've also rolled scum a lot.

On August 12 2014 23:46 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn can you link me where you explain why on haru?

On August 12 2014 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:

He doesn't make any sense. Trust me on this.

On August 12 2014 23:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I've been awesome in my later town games. I even got lynched once because i was so awesome.
Just trust me. Haru is scum.

On August 12 2014 23:54 kushm4sta wrote:
if i like your argument i will

On August 12 2014 23:36 onevone wrote:


Hahaha

On August 13 2014 00:15 onevone wrote:
It's also mildly disturbing that your filter is so much smaller than mine even though you're usually more active than me.

On August 13 2014 01:11 Onegu wrote:
Rayn what are your thoughts on damdred.


He isnt looking to good to me. Is interaction with mages was like oh you call me scum right back at ya.

And he really wanted to protect bats

On August 13 2014 01:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
I really see no reason to lynch haru over snackbats. Rayn u should know townies make idiot mistakes its what happened in OUR VERY FIRST GAME TOGETHER when u went super-ham mislynching WoS cuz u didn't see his point of view.

On August 13 2014 01:42 Koshi wrote:

Why is batsnacks town?

On August 12 2014 11:36 batsnacks wrote:
I liked kush's roleplay comments those made me smile which, posts that make me smile make me think town. I also like that he had the opportunity to vote me but elected to wait and give me a chance to post a little first.

On August 13 2014 04:12 Mages wrote:
No we're not. We're going to spend an hour talking about him then switch to somebody else.

On August 13 2014 04:14 Damdred wrote:
I think he was being sarcastic and feeling frustrated ray atleast how i took it

On August 13 2014 04:43 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Conclusions from all the questions i asked: I have none, i'm completely clueless. If i had the inclination to read more into players actions atm i'd probably find something but honestly at this exact point in time i couldn't care less about this game so that's not going to happen today. I also don't care who gets lynched today. It'll mean i have 1 less person to think about and if they flip red gg bunch of conf town and in the more likely event they flip green i'll be able to pick apart peoples reasons for voting them. If this post makes any of you want to vote for me i completely understand and i'm completely ok with it.

##Vote: TheKingOfTheCats

On August 13 2014 05:10 Sn0_Man wrote:
why can't i roll scum more often in rayn games

On August 13 2014 06:06 Sn0_Man wrote:
Rayn talk to me about mages, your opinions before and after he decided to act like a reasonable person, and why you never wanted to lynch him before haru.

I'm really bored of hearing "vote haru if ur town" incessantly.

On August 13 2014 06:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
u still haven't expalined why u think haru's town apart from "damdred was wrong about me so must be wrong about him" which is awful

On August 13 2014 06:49 Koshi wrote:
Well I am not sure if I am upset because I am wrong again or that rayn is right.

On August 13 2014 06:55 Koshi wrote:

I will make it happen.

On August 14 2014 13:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
So you don't think kush CLAIMING MAFIA is worth ANYTHING? After we just LYNCHED a guy who claimed mafia and conceded, you don't think kush CLAIMING MAFIA is a thing AT ALL?

On August 14 2014 15:47 Koshi wrote:
[...]
VE free for now. Medic claim.

Harurh town vigi. Sad about you not listening to thread. Could have shot VE instead.
[...]

On August 13 2014 01:33 Onegu wrote:


Top 3 scum reads and you are his third. It wasnt that strong but he still named you, and you fired right back he is scum.

On August 14 2014 16:59 Koshi wrote:
This is the interaction between Damdred and Onegu.:

On August 14 2014 17:05 Koshi wrote:

Mages said that he had 2 scumreads Cats & Onegu. Then if Mages had to pick a third he would pick Damdred.

On August 14 2014 23:34 Koshi wrote:
Seems like Damdred has a tell and Mages knew about it. It's sad but w.e

On August 15 2014 00:12 Sn0_Man wrote:
I read onegu.
Would lynch.
Rayn if we pretend we all followed with ur haru lynch he'd have flipped town then wat was the plan today

On August 15 2014 03:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
I need some reasons to listen to anything u say right now rayn.

"IF UR TOWN VOTE HARU" thx dude

On August 15 2014 05:20 Onegu wrote:

Why Rayn why I thought you could read me

On August 15 2014 07:27 kushm4sta wrote:
so apparently this game is still a thing

On August 18 2014 10:48 kushm4sta wrote:
and rayn koshi knew like all the scummers so gfyourself
joining koshi's rayn wagon of supreme justice

On August 18 2014 20:02 Koshi wrote: The nk and d3 incriminate you much more.

On August 18 2014 22:04 HaruRH wrote:
From my standpoint, kush is becoming more and more scummy. His scum-hue is darkening.
BUT VE is confirmed scum. No way in hell would scum not shoot the medic. This is obviously his own drama.
Let's see what happens tonight. If VE don't die, I would confirm 100% that VE is scum.

Bah I have more fun playing this game than playing in mafiascum (right now).

On July 20 2014 15:31 kushm4sta wrote:
nah im not screwing with you.
actually it's way more likely for you to be scum. here's why:

On July 20 2014 15:48 kushm4sta wrote:
1 d1 votes. people cite my legendary predilection for busing for the vote but in actuality i felt as strongly as I did from my own recent experience with not reading my role pm.

On July 20 2014 15:51 kushm4sta wrote:
in the process of trying to find number 2, i realized you are probably town.

On August 18 2014 02:15 kushm4sta wrote:
nah koshi u dont get best townplay 2014 for this shit game. no one does cause this game doesn't even count.
plus even if you were you would be blundering it away now probably with your current notion that rayn is scum.

On August 17 2014 13:00 kushm4sta wrote:
k maybe onegu is scum rather than ve

On August 17 2014 14:05 kushm4sta wrote:
@onegu true i haven't loooked into you. the thing that made me think you were possibly scum is you are calling VE confirmed medic..

It really doesn't matter to scum VE that there are 3 mislynches instead of 2, because if there wasn't a nokill, VE was going to be one of those 2 anyway.
exactly what haru just said. im just saying it again because i want to.

On August 18 2014 23:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
VE's literaklly a billion percent scum idiots stahp infighting.

@Koshi I wanted to lynch rayn super bad at the beginning of today reading ur post then I looked at the votes and rayn basically has had super lots of opportunity to (safely) ruin a lynch on scum twice in a row (both lynches were exactly the required amount of votes no spares) and didn't. I feel like he's town.

On August 18 2014 23:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
With 1 less vote we don't lynch bsnax.
There's literally 1 living person who didn't vote bsnax.

VE MUST be scum. Its actually trivial.

On August 19 2014 00:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
So to clarify, Kush hammered his scumbuddy d2 in a contested lynch? Seems unlikely.

On August 19 2014 01:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
I wouldn't feel bad at all, you've been terrible this game. You were one of the first to say I could be scum today rayn.

On August 19 2014 01:11 kushm4sta wrote:
3 prs in a 13 person game is fucking ridinkitydonkulonk

On August 19 2014 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, why are people calling me useless? I saved someone LAST NIGHT and I'm here trying to figure out the game. WTF is with this game?

On August 19 2014 01:34 HaruRH wrote:


If I was scum, I would have shot you instead.
Without you around, there will be less draw power to vote. So its WIFOM to suggest that scum actually went for koshi and ve actually tried to save koshi. However, these 2 different scenarios are already covered by me and I still feel that having a no shot by scum aligns more with kush's scum intents.

On August 19 2014 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote:


Ehh even then I'd have to like, kill someone THIS night and avoid scrutiny for not dying in Final 4....not a good gambit even then imo.

On August 19 2014 01:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Meh...I guess you're right, but then, the same could be said about LAST night. Why wouldn't I kill Haru LAST night and then no-kill TONIGHT to try and make myself confirmed on the day that it matters?

On August 19 2014 01:57 Sn0_Man wrote:

thats only occams razor if ur pretending this game doesn't include lynches and votes that are recorded for future informational purposes

On August 19 2014 01:59 kushm4sta wrote:
im not scum but you have my blessing to lynch me
glhf go town.

On August 19 2014 02:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
WELL FUCK YOU THEN RAYN BECAUSE I THOUGHT KUSH WAS SCUM ON DAY TWO AND YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU WERE GOING TO LYNCH ME FOR NOT PLAYING BECAUSE I WANTED TO LYNCH KUSH - YOU TOLD ME TO GO LOOK AT SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T KUSH EVEN AFTER I TRIED TO GET YOU TO LOOK AT KUSH!

FUCK YOU WITH YOUR "Why do I play with people like this?" RAYN!

On August 19 2014 02:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes, calling others useless and everything they post fucking retarded is "something productive".

On August 19 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Whatever, I'm done playing with you rayn. You have an unbelievable double-standard when it comes to Mafia - you expect everyone to just listen to you, but you don't listen to anything anyone else says. And when people DO listen to you and the things you say you call them sheep like they had no opinion of their own in the first place. It's horribly tedious and frankly makes playing with you not fun. I still think you're a cool person, but yes, I can't play mafia with you.

On August 19 2014 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:


This is how you responded to me the last time I pleaded with your help in lynching someone. Yes, it was a townie, but you just brushed me aside without even considering my read or reasoning given. And I DID give reasoning for this read Rayn, that you say I didn't is a fucking lie or you just didn't read it (LIKE I JUST ACCUSED YOU OF, WHICH YOU DENIED).

But whatever. You're a paragon of cooperation.

On August 20 2014 07:03 Koshi wrote:
I didn't even die. This is beyond sad.

On August 20 2014 18:28 Koshi wrote:
Like, we are talking about scum Onegu who goes off batsnacks onto HaruRH when there are 3 scum left. He does it to please rayn and because rayn commands him to do it, he doesn't overjustify it, he just does it.

But then on D2 when a scum killed himself, scum Onegu defends townies to get his scumbuddy lynched? Gives good looking analysis about other people while he is getting all that kred already?



Which scum does this?

On August 20 2014 19:26 Koshi wrote:
rayn / Onegu show me why VE is not scum. Or is scum.
I need somebody to make something insanely pretty on VE.
I have another full day to think.
Proabably tomorrow I will use my time to reread VE games.

On August 13 2014 06:35 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Mages

Ok. I still don't believe it but w.e

On August 13 2014 06:36 Koshi wrote:
This also means batsnacks is town.

ohhhh boooyyyyy

On August 20 2014 21:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
rayn we have majority on Onegu without Koshi. Get a grip.