Neat & Tidy Mini Mafia

On August 10 2014 02:49 onevone wrote:
Should be good to start early if the other game starts only a week or more later.

On August 11 2014 07:59 Damdred wrote:
Korra is decent second season is much better than one third seadon is online much better.

I'm the earth kingdom hero so lets do stuff and keep yhis kingdom safe

On August 11 2014 10:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Checking in. I'm town. Need more posters, not comfortable giving out townreads just yet.

On August 11 2014 11:41 VisceraEyes wrote:

Don't be afraid to put people in a "townpile" early, just so long as you're comfortable moving them out again if they give you reason to. I'd be suspicious of anyone claiming a hard, solid townread on anyone this early, but people stating early or light townreads on others is pretty common and expected.

Me claiming town is pretty much just a tradition - I'd do it as either alignment, so it's not really indicative one way or the other.

On August 11 2014 11:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think MysteryMeat is scum. GET REKT SON NEEEEXT

On August 11 2014 11:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
His first post was all "Man I'm so bad and I can already tell you that you won't want to listen to anything I say"

Obviously I'm paraphrasing. But that's the feels I got reading his post. It made my ass twitch.

On August 11 2014 17:34 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Im going to sleep guys. Just so you know. Dont want to be seen as suspicious when the thread starts getting serious ^^

On August 11 2014 17:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's exactly what i did in the last game i played with gk.

On August 11 2014 17:45 kushm4sta wrote:


where are you getting this shit from?

On August 11 2014 17:49 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Hopefully other people in the game will chine in. My only concern is that if VE and i are both town it gives mafia an easy d1 mislynch. Did anyone else find it weird that VE only voted on my after Kush?

On August 11 2014 21:27 onevone wrote:
You still here Koshi?

On August 11 2014 21:28 onevone wrote:
Oh, I guess not. Unless you've been waiting for hours

On August 11 2014 21:53 HaruRH wrote:
Oh no my bear went to quit this game for the newbie game. Now I am left defenseless against the onslaught of treachery. Koshi, i command you to save me

On August 11 2014 22:02 onevone wrote:


Close to lynching rayn? Based on his somewhat useless commentary so far?

On August 11 2014 22:16 kushm4sta wrote:
classic scum move:

"Anybody here? Guess not
k bye"

On August 11 2014 22:26 onevone wrote:


Well, I don't think it's a good idea to lynch rayn D1 anyway.

What does your last sentence mean?

On August 11 2014 21:27 onevone wrote:
You still here Koshi?

On August 11 2014 21:28 onevone wrote:
Oh, I guess not. Unless you've been waiting for hours

On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
2) MysteryMeat1

Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.

After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.

##Vote MysteryMeat1

On August 11 2014 22:52 onevone wrote:




"Proof" (Btw nothing particularly scummy about the fact that he posted about Avatar, it was just a note that he didn't only trash himself in his first posts.)

The VE case didn't really say much because it didn't anyhow convince me that VE is scum. The first point about VE's opening post is just... nothing. The second point doesn't really do anything to make VE scum either. The third point could be possibly scummy(?), but I can't know because it's a subjective meta reason that is uncertain at best... Nothing worth calling VE as a scumread at least...

This time added with fluff about Avatar and such.

The VE case didn't really say much because it didn't anyhow convince me that VE is scum. The first point about VE's opening post is just... nothing. The second point doesn't really do anything to make VE scum either. The third point could be possibly scummy(?), but I can't know because it's a subjective meta reason that is uncertain at best... Nothing worth calling VE as a scumread at least.

On August 11 2014 13:04 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
LOL, i go swimming for like 2 hours, and come back to VE and kush voting on me. I don't really know too much about kush's playstyle as mafia, but if VE is the same VE from DM, then i would say that he is probably mafia. Maybe this seems OMGUSING but i don't think i've liked a single one of his posts.



At first this post didn't really bother me, it seemed like he was just trying to show some town paranoia




VE tells mages not to be afriad to put people in a town pile, but in his earlier posts ignores the discussion on Koshi and if his posts seems to be town. This gives me a slight red flag, and makes me think his first post is him trying to keep his options open so that he can either A) start a band wagon or B) join a band wagon.



While this posts calls me scum, its the part that he puts in all caps. VE in video mafia, in the games that i've seen him only gets excited when he rolls scum. He also posts this an hour and a half later, followed by a paraphrasing cause he's too lazy to go back one page to quote me. Even then if he's soo certain im mafia, why does he have to wait for kush to vote for me?

On August 11 2014 23:20 onevone wrote:
You're wrong to color that line red. It was just a null point separating MM1's early play from Mages (in addition to Mages' active contribution to the discussion).

On August 11 2014 08:48 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
hahah, don't worry about it Mages. I'm decent at video mafia, but im super trash at forum mafia. You'll see later that my cases probably need some work, so i'll be trying to focus on improving my accusations. I'm pretty extroverted, and i play a ton of sports. ATM it's summer vacation so its pretty much just work and studying for my classes in the fall. The 3 that i'm taking are all important to get into my major. I start school in a month and a half and i'm training for a tough mudder as well!

On August 11 2014 23:23 Mages wrote:
Has TheKingOfTheCats Posted at all? (And is there an expedient way to see if he has been online or anything like a comment tracker here or seeing if he's posted in this thread specifically?)

On August 11 2014 23:23 Mages wrote:
Obviously I've searched the thread but didn't see anything, granted im on my 2nd cup of coffee and the newborns crying, so i may be moderately distracted.

On August 08 2014 02:50 slOosh wrote:

• 1. raynpelikoneet
  
• 2. VisceraEyes
  
• 3. MysteryMeat1
  
• 4. Damdred
  
• 5. onevone
  
• 6. kushm4sta
  
• 7. TheKingOfTheCats
  
• 8. Mages
  
• 9. Koshi
  
• 10. batsnacks
  
• 11. Sn0_Man
  
• 12. Onegu
  
• 13. HaruRH
  

Cool cats: Oatsmaster

On August 11 2014 23:30 onevone wrote:


Please read again. I have never said that it's scummy to post about Avatar.

It's not really definitely scummy to trash yourself. It's just that often scum are more keen to appear useless / meaningless as a player so that they won't be accused of being useless in the discussion.

On August 11 2014 23:25 onevone wrote:
The *case* isn't really scummy in itself, no. It just didn't feel good to have a big push on VE based on very weak / subjective reasons immediately after he was voted by VE. It felt like an OMGUS / panic reaction that scum might make in his situation.

On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
2) MysteryMeat1
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much

On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:

2) MysteryMeat1

Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.

After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.

##Vote MysteryMeat1

On August 11 2014 21:29 Onegu wrote:
Oh man so happy to play with Rayn and Koshi again.

@kush. It's hot and still under martial law, but last week they took the machine gun carrying soldiers off of my street corner so at least that is something.




Not to much really. Haru vote is much odder in my book, this isn't his first game like he said, and a straight up sheep this early in the game gets my toes in a curl when he says he is new. Anyway I'll be back in a bit after my kids sleep.

Also I bought a new notebook for this game. Then my 2 .5 year old found it and decided to draw pictures in it.

Brb in a few.

On August 12 2014 00:29 onevone wrote:


By the way, it'd be more helpful if you also explained your reads while sharing them rather than just saying "X is town, Y is scum".

On August 12 2014 00:36 Sn0_Man wrote:

Nobody talks to me so :shrugface:

On August 12 2014 00:37 onevone wrote:


It's you who isn't paying attention, since I explained my town lean on Mages in one of my first posts + I've repeatedly said that the sentence about Avatar wasn't a reason for him being scum.

On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
So, here are my brief observations from the early posts (any topics I took the effort to write down):

1) Mages

Started the game by downplaying himself, which might be new/nervous town or scummy avoiding of attention. Continued to express his thoughts after that, which makes me lean town, especially since he wasn't just following the flow of the thread but rather tried to bring his own thoughts to the discussion. Especially as a new scum player it would be somewhat hard/risky to post like that.

2) MysteryMeat1

Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.

After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.

On August 12 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't read that post the same way koshi

On August 12 2014 01:25 onevone wrote:


It's called pressure and also "beggars can't be choosers" Would you rather still be talking about Avatar.. I prefer to talk about potential scum.

On August 12 2014 01:48 onevone wrote:


Why? If MM1 is indeed scum, it's a delicious opportunity to gather scum reactions. If he's town, it's also an opportunity to gather suspicious moves. It's definitely better than everyone holding their vote until the end. Attacking the wagon would achieve just that. Plus I don't even have a weak scumread on anyone else.

On August 11 2014 08:39 Mages wrote:
Well, being that I'm new, i really don't know anybody except Damdred. I'll go ahead and share a little about myself. I'm Old, Fatherly, Tech Support Genus, and attended college for English & Chinese. When it comes to talking, I'm a little reserved normally, I blame introversion and being ridiculed by girls! My hobbies include living peacefully and camping - camping for the win. Who else wants to share? How about you. Kush?

On August 11 2014 08:48 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
hahah, don't worry about it Mages. I'm decent at video mafia, but im super trash at forum mafia. You'll see later that my cases probably need some work, so i'll be trying to focus on improving my accusations. I'm pretty extroverted, and i play a ton of sports. ATM it's summer vacation so its pretty much just work and studying for my classes in the fall. The 3 that i'm taking are all important to get into my major. I start school in a month and a half and i'm training for a tough mudder as well!

On August 11 2014 10:45 Mages wrote:
I can't help but feel I'm at a disadvantage still, people already stating townreads, all I'm seeing is introductory day 1 posting, course where im from this is a lot more than what i'm used to granted, but i will learn your ways. Is it considered a red herring for someone to so blatantly declare that they're town?

On August 11 2014 11:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Don't be afraid to put people in a "townpile" early, just so long as you're comfortable moving them out again if they give you reason to. I'd be suspicious of anyone claiming a hard, solid townread on anyone this early, but people stating early or light townreads on others is pretty common and expected.

Me claiming town is pretty much just a tradition - I'd do it as either alignment, so it's not really indicative one way or the other.

On August 12 2014 03:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
Has MM1 every rolled scum and/or has anybody played mafia with MM1 before?

I've been away for a while so

On August 12 2014 03:20 Damdred wrote:


This is my third game with MM, Noir was the first he CC'd an actual blue claim while he was a VT and two or three other people had claimed blue as well said he wasn't going to vote for the blue ended up doing it afk'd for most of the day got the blue killed then died the next night flipped VT. The next game he was the body guard but acted like he does here almost got blown up. He is prone to afk bouts so yea its a bit difficult with him, and honestly its the way he acts every day with his initial post.

I think the case on him is weak.

On August 12 2014 03:42 onevone wrote:
What I mean is, TheKingOfTheCats was clearly following the thread for several hours and keeping up with the events, yet he only posted two questions during that time that seemed decent on the surface yet don't *really* push anything forward... While Onegu just made one brief post and went away.

On August 12 2014 03:43 VisceraEyes wrote:

This is a good post. I like 1v1 for town.

TheKingOfTheCats was clearly following the thread for several hours and keeping up with the events

On August 12 2014 06:25 onevone wrote:
Why is Sn0 for sure town?

On August 11 2014 23:27 Mages wrote:
Okay, thank you ( and sorry for double post, Im still adjusting to specific rules ). So he's posted but its mostly been comments of an inquisitorial nature. He's playing very safe and might be good based on the most basic consideration and limited interaction. I say I get a town read off of him.

On August 12 2014 03:34 Mages wrote:
Right, they should be at the same level until we get a read on him. Cats has had opportunity, so I guess that's what I'm going with, please feel free to change my mind.

##vote TheKingofCats

On August 12 2014 03:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
So okay. These are the people I'd lynch into today:

MysteryMeat1, Onegu, KingofCats, batsnacks

I feel like the case on MM is the strongest, so that's where my vote is. But I feel like I'm going to have to move it because people are squeamish about lynching him based on his history of being D1 mislynched, so I'm going to look into alternatives.

On August 12 2014 06:56 batsnacks wrote:
Note to self: snow man is unhelpful.

On August 12 2014 07:25 onevone wrote:
I think Mages' posts in the earlier half of his filter are pretty town. Like how he's talking about original stuff and looks like he's going through an actual thought pattern during several posts. I don't like his later posts too much either, like the suspiciousness of kush based on nothing and just sheeping onto KoC. We'll see how he develops.

On August 12 2014 17:45 Onegu wrote:



Lol Im still reading Im on page 19. But yeah you are in my town pile.

But koshi you really need to explain your flip flopping on onevone to me, its shady as hell. And Im not really inderstanding the case on VE. Its a bit odd he wants to day one vote into the lurkers, but nothing that is super scummy.

On August 12 2014 17:57 HaruRH wrote:


I'm back for 5 minutes and I hope someone realised this is a bull reason to vote for me.

Anyway, I'll be officially back in 1 hour +

On August 12 2014 18:12 Onegu wrote:
Also 1v1 his defense of himself and his vote on MM1 seemed really stubborn and like he refused to back off even when it was showed what holes were in it.

On August 12 2014 11:16 batsnacks wrote:


I'm caught up. I don't really care how many minutes apart his quad post was. I think his questions show a "this is what I -can- comment on" mindset. Not a "this is what I -should be- commenting on" mindset. Even if people do respond to those questions, the responses will be really spread out, nothing is going to get done. They are questions for the sake of questions. He even said "I don't know if these have been asked already." He could have just written the questions down, waited until he finished reading, and then ask them all at once if they had in fact not been answered.

You think mages is mafia; I think it's great that you've reached such a strong conviction so quickly, I've never seen you this confident about a read before. From my perspective though, his responses to your inquiries didn't seem weird.

I don't really have any questions. If there was anything specifically you want to know about I'll be happy to share my thoughts. Right now they're kind of scattered but I do like where my vote is at.

On August 12 2014 11:36 batsnacks wrote:


I liked kush's roleplay comments those made me smile which, posts that make me smile make me think town. I also like that he had the opportunity to vote me but elected to wait and give me a chance to post a little first.

I think you and mages post really similar. He reads just like you did in your first few games. You both write like you're sharing your inner dialogue in the moment, if that makes sense. I can definitely see how you guys have played/came from the same place before. It's hard to form an opinion on him. I got punished last game for giving you a free ride, and I don't want to make that mistake again by giving someone who posts like you a free ride, but at the same time it makes me want to give him a good chance.

I don't know what Haru is doing I've played with him a few times before but I've never seen him do anything like this. Gut tells me scum haru, or scum anyone, wouldn't act like this, but that doesn't mean I approve of the weird behavior.

On August 12 2014 12:51 batsnacks wrote:


Seems like everyone agrees with everything I've said about koc yet they still don't want me voting him. I have an hour at most left of consciousness before I won't be able to make substantial posts until the same time tomorrow night. Like I said earlier, my schools start next week. I have more work to do than is possible to finish in any realistic amount of time. I figured it was important to get a vote out in the open now while I have some time to talk about what's going on. koc looks bad to me. No one will answer those questions he asked, and if they do, nothing will ever come of them. If I were scum, koc's questions would be the first thing I'd want to respond to. That's how I feel, so I voted him, and so far no one has given me a good reason to unvote him.

On August 12 2014 18:40 Onegu wrote:



Like this post here he admits is vote is weak but not moveing it. I just dont understand him here. MM1 wasnt his only scum read at the time iirc, and when the holes in his case were shone and he admits the read is weak, why keep going at it at that point, I dont understand it.

On August 12 2014 19:49 HaruRH wrote:


from my preliminary read with what I wrote down in my notebook that I copied off onegu's idea because I thought that was a good idea.

I circled (koshi townreads sn0, changes to wanting to lynch him for lying, then changes to liking him) in my notebook.

1)MM1 called 1v1 town, but 1v1 called MM1 scum. It is almost like they chose to talk about each other just so that they have content about one another.
2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.
3)Damndred/mages interaction feels out of place and feels forced. It almost feels like they are staging a show just to show that they interacted with one another. They used meta from unquotable/uncheckable sources that obviously shows that they are staging some sort of performance.

On August 12 2014 19:55 Mages wrote:
I mean really, my thing with damdred, i was told to give three people i'm most suspicious of. I was put on the spot and I'm inherently suspicious of Damdred because where i come from its me him and one other that's the 'maifa superpowers'. I always have to be suspicious of him or I die, plain as that. What other questions do you guys have about it?

On August 12 2014 19:51 onevone wrote:


Not really. There are some things that really make me lean town, like his super careless opening posts and openly asking who he should sheep. All of that serves no purpose as scum, in fact it's harmful to his survival, but I could certainly see town posting like that. I also pretty much agree that KoC posting a hundred questions isn't really helpful while appearing to be contributive (especially since some of the questions were repeated questions from earlier).

He hasn't really done anything besides that though.

I'm caught up. I don't really care how many minutes apart his quad post was. I think his questions show a "this is what I -can- comment on" mindset. Not a "this is what I -should be- commenting on" mindset. Even if people do respond to those questions, the responses will be really spread out, nothing is going to get done. They are questions for the sake of questions. He even said "I don't know if these have been asked already." He could have just written the questions down, waited until he finished reading, and then ask them all at once if they had in fact not been answered.

On August 12 2014 20:14 onevone wrote:


Well, it could be that I'm overthinking stuff, but as I said, I don't think I've ever seen scum open in a way that brings them no benefits and only gathers negative attention. Perhaps batsnacks is just an extremely lazy scum and doesn't care about his appearance... but I prefer to believe that it's more of a townie attitude, I guess.

Could you make your towncase on KoC? Since it also affects how to read batsnacks a bit. (If KoC turns out to be town, it makes batsnacks look a bit worse)

On August 12 2014 19:44 HaruRH wrote:
2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.

On August 12 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yeah, after Haru said i called bats mafia.....
You too, why are you not reading the thread?

On August 12 2014 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mostly do not like onevone's read on me, which apparently does not exist but he repeatedly feels the need to tell he does not read me town and that i might be scum. Koshi do you feel like he has been trying to figure out my alignment?

On August 12 2014 22:10 onevone wrote:
You should read too, rayn. I didn't say that you called batsnacks scum. Just that you don't townread him unlike you do most other players, which makes him a potential lynch candidate to you by process of elimination. At least logically. Thus "not exactly a scumread but close to it".

On August 12 2014 22:11 HaruRH wrote:


You guys need to show me where I wrote down mistakes, I am literally copying everything in my notebook, which is what I written down after going through the thread once.

2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.

On August 12 2014 22:16 onevone wrote:
Huh, that's true. Then I admit my mistake. However, that's the only "lie" I made yet, Koshi, so you should stop saying that already.

TheKingOfTheCats was clearly following the thread for several hours and keeping up with the events

It's called pressure and also "beggars can't be choosers" Would you rather still be talking about Avatar.. I prefer to talk about potential scum.

On August 12 2014 22:20 onevone wrote:
(Dunno why mentioning rayn there makes him scum still)

On August 12 2014 22:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because it is a proof that he is either not reading the thread prpperly which is a scum trait or he has some idea from my posting why i think bats is mafia which - if true - makes him more likely town.

Koshi could you be Will Smith and go read KoC's past town games just to see if there is any game where he just asks questions and doesn't do shit.

On August 12 2014 20:53 Koshi wrote:

I somewhere want him to post a bit more before I really townread him. Just read this town game and compare it to this scum game. I think it gives him space till D2.

On August 12 2014 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi i don't totes agree with you. In his town game he actually reaches to some conclusions. In his scumgame he doesn't. He talks about irrelevant stuff. While you are right in that he asks way more questions in his town game i don't see how this looks like his town game at all (because the questions are dumb - not thought out - and there are zero conclusions at all).

On August 12 2014 22:32 kushm4sta wrote:


[list][*]^When I asked this question, I was looking for reads on damdred or mages and he gave none.

[*]His only read has been based on koc not consolidating. And he has kept to it despite it being really shallow

[*]He has complained multiple times of being busy, yet he is actually tryharding more than most of his town games at this stage in terms of offering presentable content.

##unvote
##vote batsnacks
i was here first, officially my wagon if he's scum.
if he's not scum it can be onevone's wagon or something.

On August 12 2014 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Okay Haru is mafia because this does not make any sense at all.
Noone is stupid enough to not see i am talking about - and ONLY about - 1v1 here.
No chance.

On August 12 2014 22:48 HaruRH wrote:
BRB give me 20 minutes to redo my drawing, I think I might have confused myself here.



In the universe where Haru actually wants to play d1 and not be a lynch target for ALL GAMES because he cant give reads d1

On August 12 2014 22:50 HaruRH wrote:


Who?

On July 28 2014 02:02 HaruRH wrote:


It's just how I choose to play It's because I don't have limits when I try to gain towncreds, 99.999% of the time ill end up in everyone's town list and die n1 (like marv/plammar). So I chose to try and survive till d2 since my d2 is arguably my best part of the game.

On August 12 2014 22:56 HaruRH wrote:


Yea, and my name appears in all votelists in games I play for d1 btw.
I still stand by my view that my d2 is my favourite part of the game, where I start figuring things out
BUT NOT D1 GOD DAMMIT

On August 12 2014 23:13 HaruRH wrote:
Meanwhile, ill just throw my vote with 1v1.

##Unvote
##Vote: Onevone

On August 12 2014 23:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys. Can we lynch one of the hard lurkers now? I'm okay with batsnacks maybe. Or possibly Onegu. Haru just said I'm inconsistent and that can die in a fire. WHICH WAY IS THE WIND BLOWING GUYS?!?

On August 12 2014 23:38 VisceraEyes wrote:

In this post, I'm explicitly not silent about batsnacks.

On August 12 2014 23:42 HaruRH wrote:


Not possible, I am going to sleep now <3 its way past my allocated bedtime, now I have less than 7 hours of sleep

On August 12 2014 23:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:

btw i really did. all the TL ppl did lynch me on another forum (Palmar, Koshi and Robik) as i told them how many mafia are left in a no-flip game and then told them who are the last mafia. Then i afked for the weekend.

Apparently i climed someone's role (when i in fact claimed scum and all other shit).

It was kinda funny <3

On August 13 2014 00:02 Onegu wrote:
Somehow I feel half the thread isn't even reading.

On August 13 2014 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yo you dudes should vote for haru in case you are town. he's been caught and afk'd.

On August 13 2014 00:10 Sn0_Man wrote:
Koshi how come errything ur doing feels slimy this game?

On August 13 2014 00:15 onevone wrote:
It's also mildly disturbing that your filter is so much smaller than mine even though you're usually more active than me.

On August 13 2014 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Mages is more likely to be mafia.
Vote for Haru please if you are not atm.

On August 13 2014 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because there is seven people voting for him and noone has given any legit reasoning for the vote.

On August 13 2014 01:24 Koshi wrote:
Bat is scummy useless.
Meta ( see previous post + kush point on hardtry)
Scum traits like irl activity issues. (Next week kids school)
1 page filter. (Is just really low no matter how much time you have)
Connections to KoC only who he is pushing. He has a filter that reveals nothing when he would flip scum.

On August 12 2014 19:44 HaruRH wrote:
Alright I'm backa. I have made a nice little chart of everything that have happened so far (who called who scum/town etc) and I have noticed some weird stuff:

Out of the many interactions over here, 3 stood out for me:

1)MM1 called 1v1 town, but 1v1 called MM1 scum. It is almost like they chose to talk about each other just so that they have content about one another.
2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.
3)Damndred/mages interaction feels out of place and feels forced. It almost feels like they are staging a show just to show that they interacted with one another. They used meta from unquotable/uncheckable sources that obviously shows that they are staging some sort of performance.

As such, I have my list out:

Top town: Haru

Leaning town: MM1 (he always die early and is always the lynch target)

Fence: kush, mages, rayn, onegu, kotc, damndred, sn0,bat (I still need time to evaluate their game play).

Leaning scum: koshi (he has been the most wishy washy player till now)
VE (his reads are not consistent)
1v1 (his reads feels forced and rehearsed, almost a perfect copy each time he gives his list)

On August 12 2014 20:14 HaruRH wrote:


FROM MY (LIMITED) EXPERIENCE,
He is town for being universally scumread. it is a bit too early for mafia to bus bat when he have done nothing yet and it feels stupid to just bus him now.
So, if he flips scum (vigi shot maybe?), then we can safely assume there are scum in the pool of people who haven't give bat a read yet.

On August 12 2014 19:55 HaruRH wrote:


Where is the insinuating part? I am just highlighting the possibility of such things happening.

sorry my bad, I wrote that part down wrongly. I thought I saw you voting sn0. :/

On August 12 2014 19:55 HaruRH wrote:


Yes I am around for the next few hours (2+).

On August 12 2014 20:01 HaruRH wrote:
The problem don't really lie with you, mages. It is more with damndred.




someone mentioned that damdred was a cool and calm player. This doesn't really add up. This feels forced.

On August 12 2014 20:05 HaruRH wrote:





this is what I am basing it on.

On August 12 2014 20:14 HaruRH wrote:


FROM MY (LIMITED) EXPERIENCE,
He is town for being universally scumread. it is a bit too early for mafia to bus bat when he have done nothing yet and it feels stupid to just bus him now.
So, if he flips scum (vigi shot maybe?), then we can safely assume there are scum in the pool of people who haven't give bat a read yet.

On August 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:


How about telling me why I feel weird rather than throwing a blanket read. I can do the same too.

On August 12 2014 22:35 HaruRH wrote:


I had a feeling you were referring to batsnacks when you said this btw, on how he is just repeatedly attacking kotc when everyone have already pointed that shit out.

On August 12 2014 22:41 HaruRH wrote:
officially updating what I wrote in my notebook after some errors have been spotted in my attempt to pen down everything; this is my first time trying this shit to supplement my shitty d1. Don't bother scumreading me for this post because this just represents what I wrote and found interesting, plus my after thoughts. You don't need to agree with them.

Fun fact for rayn:

I accidentally thought you wrote this and wrote down that you felt bat was scummy. MY BAD.

1)MM1 called 1v1 town, but 1v1 called MM1 scum. It is almost like they chose to talk about each other just so that they have content about one another.
2)batsnacks is scumread by most (sn0,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.
3)Damndred/mages interaction feels out of place and feels forced. It almost feels like they are staging a show just to show that they interacted with one another. They used meta from unquotable/uncheckable sources that obviously shows that they are staging some sort of performance.

As such, I have my list out:

Top town: Haru

Leaning town: MM1 (he always die early and is always the lynch target)

Fence: kush, mages, rayn, onegu, kotc, damndred, sn0,bat, koshi (I still need time to evaluate their game play).

Leaning scum:
VE (his reads are not consistent)
1v1 (his reads feels forced and rehearsed, almost a perfect copy each time he gives his list)

On August 12 2014 22:58 HaruRH wrote:


I'm interested to know why too. Is he going to point out some arguments that I already said I had written wrongly, or present something I can actually fight against?

On August 12 2014 23:13 HaruRH wrote:
Meanwhile, ill just throw my vote with 1v1.

##Unvote
##Vote: Onevone

On August 12 2014 23:48 HaruRH wrote:


Fine. In exchange you let me sleep right now.

I literally cannot provide any content now because I spent too much of my only free time doing that stupid notebook idea. I still like that idea tho, I will try to do it for all my games in the future (and try to not make any mistakes)
1v1 I will explain them tomorrow when I wake up, approx. 7 hours later.

##Unvote
##Vote: batsnacks

On August 12 2014 19:49 HaruRH wrote:


from my preliminary read with what I wrote down in my notebook that I copied off onegu's idea because I thought that was a good idea.

I circled (koshi townreads sn0, changes to wanting to lynch him for lying, then changes to liking him) in my notebook.

On August 13 2014 03:48 Sn0_Man wrote:

I think rayn is pretty convinced he's a liar based on the supposed contents of his oft-mentioned notebook

On August 13 2014 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi srsly. Are you mafia?

On August 13 2014 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You do not post like this as town.

On August 13 2014 03:50 Koshi wrote:

What do you think Snow. I couldn't care less what rayn thinks.

On August 13 2014 03:53 onevone wrote:
The contents of the notebook are indeed bad, contradictory and a lot of stuff is left unexplained. Maybe it's bad enough that it comes back around to too scummy to be scum.. It just feels like he's not genuinely very interested in figuring out the game, but just made up bad content to look like he's doing stuff. batsnacks doesn't look very interested in the game either though.

And they both went AFK until deadline apparently. Great :/

On August 13 2014 03:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
Koshi why does rayn make more sense than you though? Like i preferred the batsnax lynch for so long but... :/

On August 13 2014 04:31 kushm4sta wrote:
lol koshi your towncase on haru reads like a scumcase.
you describe everything as null or terrible.

On August 13 2014 04:53 onevone wrote:
One scenario where I won't lose my faith in humanity is that Haru+Mages+KoC are scum and can't be bothered to fight on anymore. But I think the truth is more unfortunate.

On July 26 2014 06:33 batsnacks wrote:
Koshi I need to get back to work. I'm leaving you in charge.

On August 13 2014 06:16 Mages wrote:
Oh my Lord you guys. *Throws towel in.*

This board is fucking stupid.


/gquit.

On August 13 2014 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:

this is so very good!!!

On August 13 2014 06:19 Mages wrote:
Call day please, all the votes on mages.

Don't make me edit this post.

On August 13 2014 06:26 onevone wrote:
I think it should be allowed to edit that post back to its original form.

On August 13 2014 06:27 onevone wrote:
But yeah, everyone vote for Mages. He has repeatedly claimed scum and apparently edited his post to hide something. No reason not to lynch him.

On August 13 2014 06:23 Mages wrote:
I slipped up. Couldn't cover my tracks, and derailed everything I had setup. I am beyond pissed off at myself and am in the process of ragequitting.

On August 13 2014 06:39 Mages wrote:
Dies cast man, nothing i can do about it. I fooled the town once with my 'personalities' ruse, another ruse wouldn't work, not this time.

On August 13 2014 06:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm unreasonably salty that rayn appears to be right.

On August 13 2014 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Haru is mafia regardless of the flip and you should lynch him on D2 NO MATTER WHAT!!
FUCKING TRUST ME ON THIS!

On August 13 2014 05:19 Koshi wrote:
1. raynpelikoneet - scum 51% (For some reason rayn pisses me off a lot on D1 when we are both town, still scum)
2. VisceraEyes - scum 80% (useless)
3. MysteryMeat1 - town 60%
4. Damdred - town 65%
5. onevone - town 75%
6. kushm4sta - town 100%
7. TheKingOfTheCats - town 60 %
8. Mages - town 65%
10. batsnacks - scum 75%
11. Sn0_Man - town 85 %
12. Onegu - scum 52%
13. HaruRH - town 51%

On August 12 2014 10:52 batsnacks wrote:
Ok I finished reading the thread and

##vote: KingOfCats

for quadruple posting seven questions and nothing else. I do not feel that KingOfCats cares if his questions are answered.



It isn't necessary, you could have consolidated your 7 questions into one post.

I think it's interesting that damdred and his buddy mages are scum reading each other.

On August 13 2014 01:18 Damdred wrote:


Are you even reading the thread and my so called bad interaction with mages? Mages didn't scum read me at all he was all tenuous and said maybe maybe not lets let someone whos played with him in the last game confirm that he is being scum. Obviously this is a scum read right? Instead of something weak and trying to pass the buck to someone else yeaaaaa.

You should always attack a lynch you think is wrong but hey if it makes me scummy to people thats fine and good. I don't think hes acting like scummy bats just normal bats i'm fine with him

On August 13 2014 01:33 Onegu wrote:


Top 3 scum reads and you are his third. It wasnt that strong but he still named you, and you fired right back he is scum.

On August 14 2014 17:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Damdred was not Mages' scumread at least based on that post. Yes he kinda says Damdred is mafia but then he really doesn't know. I can't see how that is a scumread?

On August 14 2014 17:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:

It does not make "i don't know if he is mafia" any more a scumread.

On August 13 2014 01:11 Onegu wrote:
Rayn what are your thoughts on damdred.


He isnt looking to good to me. Is interaction with mages was like oh you call me scum right back at ya.

And he really wanted to protect bats

On August 13 2014 00:50 marvellosity wrote:


MysteryMeat1 ( 0 ) - kushm4sta, VisceraEyes, HaruRH, kushm4sta
TheKingOfTheCats ( 2 ) - onevone, Mages, batsnacks
VisceraEyes ( 0 ) - Koshi
onevone ( 0 ) - raynpelikoneet, HaruRH
Mages ( 1 ) - Damdred
batsnacks ( 6 ) - kushm4sta, Sn0_Man, Koshi, onevone, Onegu, kushm4sta, HaruRH
HaruRH ( 3 ) - kushm4sta, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta, Mysterymeat, VisceraEyes

There are ~6h 10min until deadline. You need 7 votes to lynch someone today.

On August 12 2014 21:32 Onegu wrote:
Yeah looks good to me

##Vote: Batsnacks

On August 12 2014 21:38 Onegu wrote:
1v1 is a ok lynch for me also i really dont like his interaction with koshi and refuseal to back off of MM1.

Batsnacks comeing back and asking who to sheep was really scummy though.

On August 13 2014 01:47 Onegu wrote:



How sure are you? Like Bats looks really bad. Do you not have a scum read on bats?

On August 13 2014 03:10 Onegu wrote:
Alright Im getting ready for bed soon. Ill go with you rayn.

##UNVOTE

##VOTE:HaruRH

On August 14 2014 18:09 kushm4sta wrote:
2. VisceraEyes
3. MysteryMeat1
11. Sn0_Man
12. Onegu

only people who can be scum imo.
I don't know why people are scumreading batsnacks when I think it's pretty clear he's town from mage's filter

On August 14 2014 13:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm the medic. Get fucked.

On August 14 2014 20:04 HaruRH wrote:


Given that rayn, 1v1, mm1, haru, damdred is town on the mages wagon, and on a basis that at least 1 scum would bus, its either koshi/sn0 that is scum on mages wagon.

If both scum dont bus the 3rd conceded mafia, we win because it would easily be bat/onegu.

Given that ve is real medic, kush is town, onegu/bat is 1 town 1 scum and I would think onegu is the scum here.

On August 14 2014 20:10 HaruRH wrote:


So which assumption do you not agree with and why?

Given that rayn, 1v1, mm1, haru, damdred is town on the mages wagon, and on a basis that at least 1 scum would bus, its either koshi/sn0 that is scum on mages wagon.

If both scum dont bus the 3rd conceded mafia, we win because it would easily be bat/onegu.

Given that ve is real medic, kush is town, onegu/bat is 1 town 1 scum and I would think onegu is the scum here.

On August 14 2014 07:17 kushm4sta wrote:
game ruined. im scum, we surender

On August 14 2014 07:36 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Whose we?

On August 14 2014 08:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Batsnacks Damdred Kush Mages ftw?

On August 12 2014 03:55 VisceraEyes wrote:

Quit being horrible Koshi. I hate resorting to this type of thing, but you're playing like a total fucking jackass and you need to stop.

On August 14 2014 13:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
So do you think I'm mafia rayn? For letting everyone know where I'm at in the game? You think I'm mafia for giving my opinion on the gamestate rayn? That's what you're saying?

On August 12 2014 03:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
You're so fucking stupid. I'm done for now too.

On August 14 2014 13:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like fuck you I could have just lurked some more and STILL not died, but no I fucking posted to let YOU RAYN know where I'm at in the game. I don't give a fuck about ANYONE ELSE, that post was FOR YOU rayn. And you think I'm mafia for it? K.

On August 12 2014 07:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm shooting Koshi tonight. Thx bbygrls.

On August 14 2014 13:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm the medic. Get fucked.

On August 14 2014 22:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like that's nice and everything, but rather than try and corroborate that post with evidence you're spending time going on and on about how awful my play is. Like, I'm town, so how is that a useful way to spend your time at all Koshi? Srsly, I'm really trying not to be a dick here - how is going on and on about how bad you think I am helping to solve this game in the slightest?