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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 14 2014 20:21 GMT
#1194
On August 15 2014 05:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 05:18 Onegu wrote:
On August 13 2014 04:43 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Conclusions from all the questions i asked: I have none, i'm completely clueless. If i had the inclination to read more into players actions atm i'd probably find something but honestly at this exact point in time i couldn't care less about this game so that's not going to happen today. I also don't care who gets lynched today. It'll mean i have 1 less person to think about and if they flip red gg bunch of conf town and in the more likely event they flip green i'll be able to pick apart peoples reasons for voting them. If this post makes any of you want to vote for me i completely understand and i'm completely ok with it.

##Vote: TheKingOfTheCats


The more I think about this post to scummier it seems. First why would town do this? Most people even if they don't have much time or don't care will still follow the wagons, not self vote. And how he puts at the end he understands if you vote for him.

Also mages votes for him then rage quits right after the vote. So there was no wagon to start and if he knew he was about to quit then he was trying to wifom us.

Also the timing of the self vote there is a huge wagon on haru already and about 2 hours until deadline. And a martyr like this isn't likely to change a wagon to him.

If he was scum. Why wouldn't he just vote HaruRH?



So as not to appear as jumping on a town wagon late.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 14 2014 20:30 GMT
#1199
On August 15 2014 05:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 05:21 Onegu wrote:
On August 15 2014 05:19 Koshi wrote:
On August 15 2014 05:18 Onegu wrote:
On August 13 2014 04:43 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Conclusions from all the questions i asked: I have none, i'm completely clueless. If i had the inclination to read more into players actions atm i'd probably find something but honestly at this exact point in time i couldn't care less about this game so that's not going to happen today. I also don't care who gets lynched today. It'll mean i have 1 less person to think about and if they flip red gg bunch of conf town and in the more likely event they flip green i'll be able to pick apart peoples reasons for voting them. If this post makes any of you want to vote for me i completely understand and i'm completely ok with it.

##Vote: TheKingOfTheCats


The more I think about this post to scummier it seems. First why would town do this? Most people even if they don't have much time or don't care will still follow the wagons, not self vote. And how he puts at the end he understands if you vote for him.

Also mages votes for him then rage quits right after the vote. So there was no wagon to start and if he knew he was about to quit then he was trying to wifom us.

Also the timing of the self vote there is a huge wagon on haru already and about 2 hours until deadline. And a martyr like this isn't likely to change a wagon to him.

If he was scum. Why wouldn't he just vote HaruRH?



So as not to appear as jumping on a town wagon late.

But HaruRH wasn't lynched yet. I am not sure but I don't think HaruRH was on 7 votes. So he could just vote to help a lynch. There is nothing wrong with that in majority.



It's still abit weird the martyr, I don't see a reason why as town you would do it. As scum he doesn't want people examining who he votes for. He says he doesn't care who is lynched, as town you always care, as scum sometimes not.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 14 2014 20:35 GMT
#1203
I'm not finished. Also mages vote on KotC doesn't matter to much as it was late close to deadline when there was no chance of KotC being lynched.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 14 2014 20:37 GMT
#1204
On August 15 2014 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would your scumbro basically clear KoC when the other (possible - atm) wagon is Haru which i am pushing?
Onegu explain me this.


Don't understand.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 14 2014 20:38 GMT
#1205
On August 15 2014 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No, Mages cleared KoC. I know how people play on another forums. They are dumb. KoC is clear.



How can you say KoC is clear based on mages?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 14 2014 20:42 GMT
#1207
On August 15 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 05:38 Onegu wrote:
On August 15 2014 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No, Mages cleared KoC. I know how people play on another forums. They are dumb. KoC is clear.



How can you say KoC is clear based on mages?

Because Mages started raging because he voted for KoC while he had KoC as town. Mages kinda slipped on KoC, just less likely he slips on a scumbuddy like that.

He was unvoteing KoTC then rage quit this doesn't make sense to me
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 14 2014 20:46 GMT
#1209
On August 15 2014 05:44 Sn0_Man wrote:
He actually voted KoC.

Then edited to an Unvote when he realized his fuck-up

Then Ragequit cuz he felt it was a slip and got warned for editing etc.



Harm ok Ill have to think about it then. Not sure that clears kotc or not.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 14 2014 20:48 GMT
#1210
Ok 10 min til 4 am, promise to be more active tomorrow. Rayn I'm not scum, but I'm certain bats is.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 14 2014 20:51 GMT
#1212
On August 15 2014 05:49 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 05:48 Onegu wrote:
Ok 10 min til 4 am, promise to be more active tomorrow. Rayn I'm not scum, but I'm certain bats is.

Please be more active tomorrow. We need you to be awesome.

##unvote
##vote: batsnacks

I will, I promise Koshi.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 15 2014 12:31 GMT
#1266
Alright Im here reading.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 15 2014 12:49 GMT
#1267
On August 15 2014 17:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not really think anyone is mafia except Onegu.

I do not like Onegu's reasoning for NOT townreading KoC because that's the clearest thing on the earth. If there is mafia whose possibilities are (1) put their vote on a townie or (2) "clear" their scumbuddy by getting themselves lynched - every single person would take (1) anyday.

Now yes, Onegu said he hasn't read properly while this has been explained to him many times. Yes, he backed off. But it does not matter. Last time i was scum with Onegu i asked him if he needs help in catching up in scum QT (as he replaced in). He didn't want help, he made a case on a confirmed townie who looked maybe possibly scummy and it fucked both of us.

Yes i believe Onegu is mafia because he does not either read properly or think about what he reads from town perspective.



How is that even true, first I wasnt around when this first happened, second there is only one post by koshi that explains what happened where he says mages wrote vote, then edited to unvote. And that is difficult to connect when you are reading filters. When it was pointed out to me I backed off.

Also http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/mTMbKbhTthaS
Show me where you offer to help me. I looked its not there. And you cant compare that game to this game as it was already like 200 pages in when I replaced and the guy I replaced was already under heavy heat.

So the case on me is a connection to mages (wifom) that I have disproven much of already, and now rayns point im not reading based on a edited post that I wasnt around for.

How are you guys voteing me over bats? I mean look at his reason for voteing me.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 15 2014 12:55 GMT
#1268
On August 15 2014 06:42 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 06:41 Koshi wrote:
Onegu his entire filter is filled with reasons why he thinks you are scum batsnacks. Unlike you he did play on D1.


I'm happy for him.



And you say Im not reading the thread? He says he is voteing for me for the hell of it, because he thought I was voteing for him for the hell of it.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 15 2014 14:07 GMT
#1278
You sure like that post koshi posted doesnt seem like scum to scum interaction
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 15 2014 14:35 GMT
#1285
I actually agree with koshi... Like that really doesnt seem like scum to scum interaction with mages early.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 15 2014 14:39 GMT
#1288
I still town read you sn0, but tbh I am starting to look at kush. This isnt the same kush who was n1 killed in HW. He basicly is just saying reads on people with no basis.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 15 2014 14:40 GMT
#1290
On August 15 2014 23:38 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 07:39 slOosh wrote:
Final Day 1 Votecount

Mages ( 7 ) - raynpelikoneet, onevone, Sn0_Man, Koshi, Mysterymeat, HaruRH, Damdred
HaruRH ( 4 ) - VisceraEyes, kushm4sta, batsnacks, Onegu
batsnacks ( 1 ) - Mages
TheKingOfTheCats ( 1 ) - TheKingOfTheCats

Mages was lynched with 7 votes.


How the fuck are you going to vote for somebody on the Mages wagon? There is no case on MM1. He always plays like he plays atm. Look at Noir2.

He has an insanely daring opening conversation with Mages if both scum:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 08:48 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
hahah, don't worry about it Mages. I'm decent at video mafia, but im super trash at forum mafia. You'll see later that my cases probably need some work, so i'll be trying to focus on improving my accusations. I'm pretty extroverted, and i play a ton of sports. ATM it's summer vacation so its pretty much just work and studying for my classes in the fall. The 3 that i'm taking are all important to get into my major. I start school in a month and a half and i'm training for a tough mudder as well!


Then you got waffling city from Mages on the MM1 wagon. He is not trying to stop it at all.
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 00:50 Mages wrote:
But see, I was trying to get to know people here too as it would get some conversation going, he started talking about fluffy stuff, the same could be said of me when i was giving out some background on me, i dont believe that anything in that was particularly suspicious, but whereas i have a genuine reason to downplay myself (as a newbie here), I dont know if MM had a reason to downplay himself as 'trash at forum mafia.' If he was trying to make me feel more at ease, that's one thing, but understand I have played mafia for the last decade, i'm not a weak player i just dont know people here yet. That is probably the most suspicious thing about MM that I find.


This is terrible though, depends what Mages want to do here. I guess nullish?
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 05:05 Mages wrote:

MysteryMeat1- Received much early game hate, not nearly so much in the later part of the game, so he's managed to turn people around, if he were evil with such a high vote count I Think he would have let it ride.



All in all.


FUCKING TERRIBLE LYNCH

What about we lynch batsnacks or Onegu?

Who seem to be incapable to speak to each other.



What are you talking about I have called him scum this entire game.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 15 2014 14:42 GMT
#1293
On August 15 2014 23:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 23:40 Onegu wrote:
On August 15 2014 23:38 Koshi wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:39 slOosh wrote:
Final Day 1 Votecount

Mages ( 7 ) - raynpelikoneet, onevone, Sn0_Man, Koshi, Mysterymeat, HaruRH, Damdred
HaruRH ( 4 ) - VisceraEyes, kushm4sta, batsnacks, Onegu
batsnacks ( 1 ) - Mages
TheKingOfTheCats ( 1 ) - TheKingOfTheCats

Mages was lynched with 7 votes.


How the fuck are you going to vote for somebody on the Mages wagon? There is no case on MM1. He always plays like he plays atm. Look at Noir2.

He has an insanely daring opening conversation with Mages if both scum:
On August 11 2014 08:48 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
hahah, don't worry about it Mages. I'm decent at video mafia, but im super trash at forum mafia. You'll see later that my cases probably need some work, so i'll be trying to focus on improving my accusations. I'm pretty extroverted, and i play a ton of sports. ATM it's summer vacation so its pretty much just work and studying for my classes in the fall. The 3 that i'm taking are all important to get into my major. I start school in a month and a half and i'm training for a tough mudder as well!


Then you got waffling city from Mages on the MM1 wagon. He is not trying to stop it at all.
On August 12 2014 00:50 Mages wrote:
But see, I was trying to get to know people here too as it would get some conversation going, he started talking about fluffy stuff, the same could be said of me when i was giving out some background on me, i dont believe that anything in that was particularly suspicious, but whereas i have a genuine reason to downplay myself (as a newbie here), I dont know if MM had a reason to downplay himself as 'trash at forum mafia.' If he was trying to make me feel more at ease, that's one thing, but understand I have played mafia for the last decade, i'm not a weak player i just dont know people here yet. That is probably the most suspicious thing about MM that I find.


This is terrible though, depends what Mages want to do here. I guess nullish?
On August 13 2014 05:05 Mages wrote:

MysteryMeat1- Received much early game hate, not nearly so much in the later part of the game, so he's managed to turn people around, if he were evil with such a high vote count I Think he would have let it ride.



All in all.


FUCKING TERRIBLE LYNCH

What about we lynch batsnacks or Onegu?

Who seem to be incapable to speak to each other.



What are you talking about I have called him scum this entire game.

There are no interactions between you 2. You call him scum, but when you are both in the thread you ignore each other.



I dont think he is ever in the thread at the same time as me. And plz point out my scumminess. Your case is all based on mages filter.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 15 2014 14:46 GMT
#1298
On August 15 2014 23:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 23:39 Onegu wrote:
I still town read you sn0, but tbh I am starting to look at kush. This isnt the same kush who was n1 killed in HW. He basicly is just saying reads on people with no basis.

Don't forget there are only 2 scum left and both koshi and rayn hard-read kush as town from very early iirc.

Which would mean that they'd have to be hella wrong for kush to be scum also my (probably bad) kush heuristic is that his scum play involves hard bussing from day 1 which aint happened yet.



Yes but what has he done since early day 1? He has hardly been around since the second half of day 1, and done nothing productive.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 15 2014 14:53 GMT
#1300
On August 15 2014 23:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 23:42 Onegu wrote:
On August 15 2014 23:41 Koshi wrote:
On August 15 2014 23:40 Onegu wrote:
On August 15 2014 23:38 Koshi wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:39 slOosh wrote:
Final Day 1 Votecount

Mages ( 7 ) - raynpelikoneet, onevone, Sn0_Man, Koshi, Mysterymeat, HaruRH, Damdred
HaruRH ( 4 ) - VisceraEyes, kushm4sta, batsnacks, Onegu
batsnacks ( 1 ) - Mages
TheKingOfTheCats ( 1 ) - TheKingOfTheCats

Mages was lynched with 7 votes.


How the fuck are you going to vote for somebody on the Mages wagon? There is no case on MM1. He always plays like he plays atm. Look at Noir2.

He has an insanely daring opening conversation with Mages if both scum:
On August 11 2014 08:48 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
hahah, don't worry about it Mages. I'm decent at video mafia, but im super trash at forum mafia. You'll see later that my cases probably need some work, so i'll be trying to focus on improving my accusations. I'm pretty extroverted, and i play a ton of sports. ATM it's summer vacation so its pretty much just work and studying for my classes in the fall. The 3 that i'm taking are all important to get into my major. I start school in a month and a half and i'm training for a tough mudder as well!


Then you got waffling city from Mages on the MM1 wagon. He is not trying to stop it at all.
On August 12 2014 00:50 Mages wrote:
But see, I was trying to get to know people here too as it would get some conversation going, he started talking about fluffy stuff, the same could be said of me when i was giving out some background on me, i dont believe that anything in that was particularly suspicious, but whereas i have a genuine reason to downplay myself (as a newbie here), I dont know if MM had a reason to downplay himself as 'trash at forum mafia.' If he was trying to make me feel more at ease, that's one thing, but understand I have played mafia for the last decade, i'm not a weak player i just dont know people here yet. That is probably the most suspicious thing about MM that I find.


This is terrible though, depends what Mages want to do here. I guess nullish?
On August 13 2014 05:05 Mages wrote:

MysteryMeat1- Received much early game hate, not nearly so much in the later part of the game, so he's managed to turn people around, if he were evil with such a high vote count I Think he would have let it ride.



All in all.


FUCKING TERRIBLE LYNCH

What about we lynch batsnacks or Onegu?

Who seem to be incapable to speak to each other.



What are you talking about I have called him scum this entire game.

There are no interactions between you 2. You call him scum, but when you are both in the thread you ignore each other.



I dont think he is ever in the thread at the same time as me. And plz point out my scumminess. Your case is all based on mages filter.

I agree, my case on you is almost non existent.
It is just Mages calling you scum all the time. How come you never attacked Mages for that btw?



He didnt call me scum all the time only twice, and in my early read on him I asked why his top two scum reads were lurkers. Also he changed it to null after I came back. Also he wasnt the only one putting a scum read on me for lurking.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 17 2014 03:49 GMT
#1439
On August 17 2014 11:18 Koshi wrote:
Just lynch rayn, then I die, then we lynch Onegu, then scum might not nk or they have to nk VE, protection should be on HaruRH, then lynch VE or Snow.


I don't think Snow is scum. But Kush isn't for sure.



How do you know kush isn't for sure? He hasn't done anything this game, he was the last on the bats wagon, and he is now pushing confirmed medic VE.

I still can't get over my day one Rayn read either, it still seems like he believes what he is writing even though he is wrong a lot and I'm not really used to that.

Sn0 I have no read on whatsoever. And will read his filter later.

Scum have to be in these three though, rest is basically confirmed town in my opinion.

Koshi
Haru
VE
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