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On August 12 2014 20:34 Damdred wrote:
Well morning all, a few thoughts to open up the day
1) Right now i'm leaning towards town on batsnacks because of his randomness in the way he plays though I do not like where his vote is right now as I think it's on a towny I don't think hes scum for that and the time I did play scum with him he went a bit more crazy hes closer to how he was in noir or close to it i'd like to see more out of him but I doubt we will before deadline today.
2) Why am I getting flack for being more aggressive than I have in the past? Kinda a bit of bull on that one.
3) Since haru has came back to the thread he feels a bit weirder to me
How about telling me why I feel weird rather than throwing a blanket read. I can do the same too.
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On August 12 2014 20:14 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 20:01 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 19:51 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 19:42 Koshi wrote:
No. I don't have to. I am sure he is not the best lynch. He is very likely town anyway.
Hmm but proving KoC is town might makes it easier for people to find scum.
Oh well.
batsnacks is not scummy to you? Not really. There are some things that really make me lean town, like his super careless opening posts and openly asking who he should sheep. All of that serves no purpose as scum, in fact it's harmful to his survival, but I could certainly see town posting like that. I also pretty much agree that KoC posting a hundred questions isn't really helpful while appearing to be contributive (especially since some of the questions were repeated questions from earlier). He hasn't really done anything besides that though. The opening post isn't townie at all. Doing completely nothing and asking to sheep somebody works as scum. I have done it in Normal Mini Mafia LVI. Him going after KoC is completely wrong. This screams of scum jumping on something delicious. I'm caught up. I don't really care how many minutes apart his quad post was. I think his questions show a "this is what I -can- comment on" mindset. Not a "this is what I -should be- commenting on" mindset. Even if people do respond to those questions, the responses will be really spread out, nothing is going to get done. They are questions for the sake of questions. He even said "I don't know if these have been asked already." He could have just written the questions down, waited until he finished reading, and then ask them all at once if they had in fact not been answered. 1 page filter. Well, it could be that I'm overthinking stuff, but as I said, I don't think I've ever seen scum open in a way that brings them no benefits and only gathers negative attention. Perhaps batsnacks is just an extremely lazy scum and doesn't care about his appearance... but I prefer to believe that it's more of a townie attitude, I guess. Could you make your towncase on KoC? Since it also affects how to read batsnacks a bit. (If KoC turns out to be town, it makes batsnacks look a bit worse)
Actually curious how does bat being wrong on KoC make it worse? Townies are allowed to be wrong completely and it happens often and usually isn't alignment oriented (being wrong or not)
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fuck me
##unvote
I got the same feeling as haru about the damdred/mages interaction.
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On August 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 20:34 Damdred wrote:
Well morning all, a few thoughts to open up the day
1) Right now i'm leaning towards town on batsnacks because of his randomness in the way he plays though I do not like where his vote is right now as I think it's on a towny I don't think hes scum for that and the time I did play scum with him he went a bit more crazy hes closer to how he was in noir or close to it i'd like to see more out of him but I doubt we will before deadline today.
2) Why am I getting flack for being more aggressive than I have in the past? Kinda a bit of bull on that one.
3) Since haru has came back to the thread he feels a bit weirder to me How about telling me why I feel weird rather than throwing a blanket read. I can do the same too.
You are weird because of how i've seen you play in the past you are generally more emotional and post a bit more when people start voting you which you have scratched the surface on. Your original few posts left a bad taste in my mouth and then you were gone for many hours and came back. You lean scum on one of my townreads (maybe two still split on VE) and then you whack me about for being more direct and trying to get into confrontations and being absolute on my scum read. Note that I said you felt weird not scummy and i'll hold out on that for a bit yet
And its about time that kush felt off about me I missed his feelings
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On August 12 2014 20:14 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 20:01 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 19:51 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 19:42 Koshi wrote:
No. I don't have to. I am sure he is not the best lynch. He is very likely town anyway.
Hmm but proving KoC is town might makes it easier for people to find scum.
Oh well.
batsnacks is not scummy to you? Not really. There are some things that really make me lean town, like his super careless opening posts and openly asking who he should sheep. All of that serves no purpose as scum, in fact it's harmful to his survival, but I could certainly see town posting like that. I also pretty much agree that KoC posting a hundred questions isn't really helpful while appearing to be contributive (especially since some of the questions were repeated questions from earlier). He hasn't really done anything besides that though. The opening post isn't townie at all. Doing completely nothing and asking to sheep somebody works as scum. I have done it in Normal Mini Mafia LVI. Him going after KoC is completely wrong. This screams of scum jumping on something delicious. I'm caught up. I don't really care how many minutes apart his quad post was. I think his questions show a "this is what I -can- comment on" mindset. Not a "this is what I -should be- commenting on" mindset. Even if people do respond to those questions, the responses will be really spread out, nothing is going to get done. They are questions for the sake of questions. He even said "I don't know if these have been asked already." He could have just written the questions down, waited until he finished reading, and then ask them all at once if they had in fact not been answered. 1 page filter. Well, it could be that I'm overthinking stuff, but as I said, I don't think I've ever seen scum open in a way that brings them no benefits and only gathers negative attention. Perhaps batsnacks is just an extremely lazy scum and doesn't care about his appearance... but I prefer to believe that it's more of a townie attitude, I guess. Could you make your towncase on KoC? Since it also affects how to read batsnacks a bit. (If KoC turns out to be town, it makes batsnacks look a bit worse)
I somewhere want him to post a bit more before I really townread him. Just read this town game and compare it to this scum game. I think it gives him space till D2.
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On August 12 2014 20:45 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 20:14 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 20:01 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 19:51 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 19:42 Koshi wrote:
No. I don't have to. I am sure he is not the best lynch. He is very likely town anyway.
Hmm but proving KoC is town might makes it easier for people to find scum.
Oh well.
batsnacks is not scummy to you? Not really. There are some things that really make me lean town, like his super careless opening posts and openly asking who he should sheep. All of that serves no purpose as scum, in fact it's harmful to his survival, but I could certainly see town posting like that. I also pretty much agree that KoC posting a hundred questions isn't really helpful while appearing to be contributive (especially since some of the questions were repeated questions from earlier). He hasn't really done anything besides that though. The opening post isn't townie at all. Doing completely nothing and asking to sheep somebody works as scum. I have done it in Normal Mini Mafia LVI. Him going after KoC is completely wrong. This screams of scum jumping on something delicious. I'm caught up. I don't really care how many minutes apart his quad post was. I think his questions show a "this is what I -can- comment on" mindset. Not a "this is what I -should be- commenting on" mindset. Even if people do respond to those questions, the responses will be really spread out, nothing is going to get done. They are questions for the sake of questions. He even said "I don't know if these have been asked already." He could have just written the questions down, waited until he finished reading, and then ask them all at once if they had in fact not been answered. 1 page filter. Well, it could be that I'm overthinking stuff, but as I said, I don't think I've ever seen scum open in a way that brings them no benefits and only gathers negative attention. Perhaps batsnacks is just an extremely lazy scum and doesn't care about his appearance... but I prefer to believe that it's more of a townie attitude, I guess. Could you make your towncase on KoC? Since it also affects how to read batsnacks a bit. (If KoC turns out to be town, it makes batsnacks look a bit worse) Actually curious how does bat being wrong on KoC make it worse? Townies are allowed to be wrong completely and it happens often and usually isn't alignment oriented (being wrong or not)
It just means that batsnacks looks better if KoC flips scum than the other way around (I doubt they would be scum together atm).
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On August 12 2014 19:51 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 19:42 Koshi wrote:
No. I don't have to. I am sure he is not the best lynch. He is very likely town anyway.
Hmm but proving KoC is town might makes it easier for people to find scum.
Oh well.
batsnacks is not scummy to you? Not really. There are some things that really make me lean town, like his super careless opening posts and openly asking who he should sheep. All of that serves no purpose as scum, in fact it's harmful to his survival, but I could certainly see town posting like that. I also pretty much agree that KoC posting a hundred questions isn't really helpful while appearing to be contributive (especially since some of the questions were repeated questions from earlier). He hasn't really done anything besides that though.
k but this line of thinking is fairly obvious. scum know that. So "who to sheep" is something scum might say just because people will read it tooscummytobescum, and less overtly scummy, serious koc like questions become the new tooscummytobescum.
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On August 12 2014 20:53 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 20:14 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 20:01 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 19:51 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 19:42 Koshi wrote:
No. I don't have to. I am sure he is not the best lynch. He is very likely town anyway.
Hmm but proving KoC is town might makes it easier for people to find scum.
Oh well.
batsnacks is not scummy to you? Not really. There are some things that really make me lean town, like his super careless opening posts and openly asking who he should sheep. All of that serves no purpose as scum, in fact it's harmful to his survival, but I could certainly see town posting like that. I also pretty much agree that KoC posting a hundred questions isn't really helpful while appearing to be contributive (especially since some of the questions were repeated questions from earlier). He hasn't really done anything besides that though. The opening post isn't townie at all. Doing completely nothing and asking to sheep somebody works as scum. I have done it in Normal Mini Mafia LVI. Him going after KoC is completely wrong. This screams of scum jumping on something delicious. I'm caught up. I don't really care how many minutes apart his quad post was. I think his questions show a "this is what I -can- comment on" mindset. Not a "this is what I -should be- commenting on" mindset. Even if people do respond to those questions, the responses will be really spread out, nothing is going to get done. They are questions for the sake of questions. He even said "I don't know if these have been asked already." He could have just written the questions down, waited until he finished reading, and then ask them all at once if they had in fact not been answered. 1 page filter. Well, it could be that I'm overthinking stuff, but as I said, I don't think I've ever seen scum open in a way that brings them no benefits and only gathers negative attention. Perhaps batsnacks is just an extremely lazy scum and doesn't care about his appearance... but I prefer to believe that it's more of a townie attitude, I guess. Could you make your towncase on KoC? Since it also affects how to read batsnacks a bit. (If KoC turns out to be town, it makes batsnacks look a bit worse) I somewhere want him to post a bit more before I really townread him. Just read this town game and compare it to this scum game. I think it gives him space till D2.
Hm yeah... He does ask a lot of questions there as town too, and doesn't come to many conclusions early on. Perhaps it's just the way he plays. As scum he seems to be a lot less active.
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Not really feeling the KoC lynch anymore... And not MM1 either.
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So if we don't get seven votes today, nobody is lynched, is that correct?
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On August 12 2014 20:59 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 19:51 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 19:42 Koshi wrote:
No. I don't have to. I am sure he is not the best lynch. He is very likely town anyway.
Hmm but proving KoC is town might makes it easier for people to find scum.
Oh well.
batsnacks is not scummy to you? Not really. There are some things that really make me lean town, like his super careless opening posts and openly asking who he should sheep. All of that serves no purpose as scum, in fact it's harmful to his survival, but I could certainly see town posting like that. I also pretty much agree that KoC posting a hundred questions isn't really helpful while appearing to be contributive (especially since some of the questions were repeated questions from earlier). He hasn't really done anything besides that though. k but this line of thinking is fairly obvious. scum know that. So "who to sheep" is something scum might say just because people will read it tooscummytobescum, and less overtly scummy, serious koc like questions become the new tooscummytobescum.
That's some serious WIFOM  I've thought about that before, but never actually done it as scum. Since as town it's a lot easier to get away with gathering early pressure. As scum it's harder to react.
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batsnacks.
I have know him to be pretty good town in TL Order.
I have know him to be pretty batshit insane town in Titanic.
I have observed him being pretty batshit insane town in Showdown.
I have known him to be pretty shady/ghostly scum in Storm.
Do I know him from somewhere else? I don't think so.
1) This game he is ghostly. He started the game with activity excuses. He repeated these activity excuses somewhere else in his filter. The excuses came out of nowhere really.
2) His jumping on KoCs is not consistent with how he is approaching the game. Suddenly he is 100% certain on a scum.
3) 1 page filter.
4) Awkward stuff around the Damdred previous game stuff. Just awkward. Nothing insane about it.
This is all out of memory. Somebody should really look at those posts I quote about him. Ugh, people are townreading him and I don't know why.
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On August 12 2014 21:07 Mages wrote:
So if we don't get seven votes today, nobody is lynched, is that correct?
Yeah, and that isn't really a good option. At the very least we should policy lynch the least useful player if nothing else, or this will never go anywhere. Hopefully we can agree to a decent candidate though.
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I disagree with everyone about sn0 looking town. He's got that sn0 tone alright, but that's not so hard to replicate as scum. In the end he just sheeps me on batsnacks randomly...
On August 12 2014 11:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm with kush atm.
##Vote: batsnacks
I'll be back in 12ish hours. Lots of time for things to change but considering its majority lynch I like getting a vote out there *relatively* early
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Mages looks bad for several reasons which I have gone over already.
Ditto with batsnacks.
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On August 12 2014 21:09 Koshi wrote:
batsnacks.
I have know him to be pretty good town in TL Order.
I have know him to be pretty batshit insane town in Titanic.
I have observed him being pretty batshit insane town in Showdown.
I have known him to be pretty shady/ghostly scum in Storm.
Do I know him from somewhere else? I don't think so.
1) This game he is ghostly. He started the game with activity excuses. He repeated these activity excuses somewhere else in his filter. The excuses came out of nowhere really.
2) His jumping on KoCs is not consistent with how he is approaching the game. Suddenly he is 100% certain on a scum.
3) 1 page filter.
4) Awkward stuff around the Damdred previous game stuff. Just awkward. Nothing insane about it.
This is all out of memory. Somebody should really look at those posts I quote about him. Ugh, people are townreading him and I don't know why.
I don't really like the KoC vote either... It's a bit sudden to just go 100% scum on him based on little evidence after doing nothing before. A more townie mindset would be to try and figure stuff out rather than settling on one target and just leaving it at that.
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lol, kush youve been against me since the word go.
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In the end, batsnacks does look pretty scummy, if you don't consider the scum survival instinct. It's just that the "too scummy to be scum" argument has never failed me before 
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On August 12 2014 21:16 Mages wrote:
lol, kush youve been against me since the word go.
mages let's go camping
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:D Name the time and place!
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EPT
