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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 12 2014 09:15 GMT
#521
On August 12 2014 17:57 HaruRH wrote:
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On August 12 2014 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2014 17:07 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah i guess haru. Ive been going through filters and I can't find people I want to vote.

##haru

Haru's just joking around and not playing. As he does as scum. As town yes - he jokes - but he also plays.
mafia.


I'm back for 5 minutes and I hope someone realised this is a bull reason to vote for me.

Anyway, I'll be officially back in 1 hour +



Why is it bull? You have hardly done anything this game. You havent tried to figure anything out.

On August 11 2014 21:53 HaruRH wrote:
Oh no my bear went to quit this game for the newbie game. Now I am left defenseless against the onslaught of treachery. Koshi, i command you to save me



Do you have a read on koshi? And why save you at that point?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 12 2014 09:23 GMT
#522
On August 12 2014 03:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
So okay. These are the people I'd lynch into today:

MysteryMeat1, Onegu, KingofCats, batsnacks

I feel like the case on MM is the strongest, so that's where my vote is. But I feel like I'm going to have to move it because people are squeamish about lynching him based on his history of being D1 mislynched, so I'm going to look into alternatives.



Why did you leave Haru off of your list he only had 4 posts with no content in them at all...

Also I dont know how you play and I think most people in this game do either so dont use that as a excuse saying you are town. Also give me your thoughts on damdred.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 12 2014 09:27 GMT
#523
On August 12 2014 18:12 Onegu wrote:
Also 1v1 his defense of himself and his vote on MM1 seemed really stubborn and like he refused to back off even when it was showed what holes were in it.

Is this townie or scummy?
I had a good night of sleep.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 12 2014 09:31 GMT
#524
On August 12 2014 18:27 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 18:12 Onegu wrote:
Also 1v1 his defense of himself and his vote on MM1 seemed really stubborn and like he refused to back off even when it was showed what holes were in it.

Is this townie or scummy?


Scummy. Is seems like he couldn't change his read. like he was afraid to look like waffeling so even with a weak arguement he stuck with it. And he knew it was weak.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 12 2014 09:39 GMT
#525
Can somebody say something smart about the following three posts.

On August 12 2014 11:16 batsnacks wrote:
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On August 12 2014 11:00 Damdred wrote:
So you would rather he not say anything and just continue to lurk? Also his quad posting happened 8 minutes, 3 minutes and 11 minutes apart if anyone else was in the thread at the time it wouldn't of been a quad post. Also hes done more than you bat are you caught up with the thread? Do you have questions? or are you just going to vote a guy for at least posting all his questions look pretty towny right now.

Also Mages isn't scum reading me he is casting doubt on me because i'm being talkative and injecting myself into the thread instead of lurking. His vote and your vote on KOC are weird honestly, i'm sure that Mages is mafia at this point unless someone can convince me otherwise and right now you are acting pretty bad right now bat


I'm caught up. I don't really care how many minutes apart his quad post was. I think his questions show a "this is what I -can- comment on" mindset. Not a "this is what I -should be- commenting on" mindset. Even if people do respond to those questions, the responses will be really spread out, nothing is going to get done. They are questions for the sake of questions. He even said "I don't know if these have been asked already." He could have just written the questions down, waited until he finished reading, and then ask them all at once if they had in fact not been answered.

You think mages is mafia; I think it's great that you've reached such a strong conviction so quickly, I've never seen you this confident about a read before. From my perspective though, his responses to your inquiries didn't seem weird.

I don't really have any questions. If there was anything specifically you want to know about I'll be happy to share my thoughts. Right now they're kind of scattered but I do like where my vote is at.

On August 12 2014 11:36 batsnacks wrote:
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On August 12 2014 11:21 Damdred wrote:
Ok bat I probably did react a bit harshly there so i'm sorry about that. I just don't like the vote but I do agree he should consolidate his post really. What do you think about these posters bat, Kush, Mages and Haru?


I liked kush's roleplay comments those made me smile which, posts that make me smile make me think town. I also like that he had the opportunity to vote me but elected to wait and give me a chance to post a little first.

I think you and mages post really similar. He reads just like you did in your first few games. You both write like you're sharing your inner dialogue in the moment, if that makes sense. I can definitely see how you guys have played/came from the same place before. It's hard to form an opinion on him. I got punished last game for giving you a free ride, and I don't want to make that mistake again by giving someone who posts like you a free ride, but at the same time it makes me want to give him a good chance.

I don't know what Haru is doing I've played with him a few times before but I've never seen him do anything like this. Gut tells me scum haru, or scum anyone, wouldn't act like this, but that doesn't mean I approve of the weird behavior.

On August 12 2014 12:51 batsnacks wrote:
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On August 12 2014 12:41 Damdred wrote:
Ok so i doubt the mage wagon will get much taction at this rate so i won't push past this post until he posts some more ill keep my vote on him though.

Ok bat why is your vote on koc then? You said it wasn't a case at all. You also said you are nt giving mages a free pass (which btw i wasn't given a free pass got the crap kicked out of me three times just about). But you aren't pressuring him you'd rather vote with him...


Seems like everyone agrees with everything I've said about koc yet they still don't want me voting him. I have an hour at most left of consciousness before I won't be able to make substantial posts until the same time tomorrow night. Like I said earlier, my schools start next week. I have more work to do than is possible to finish in any realistic amount of time. I figured it was important to get a vote out in the open now while I have some time to talk about what's going on. koc looks bad to me. No one will answer those questions he asked, and if they do, nothing will ever come of them. If I were scum, koc's questions would be the first thing I'd want to respond to. That's how I feel, so I voted him, and so far no one has given me a good reason to unvote him.

I had a good night of sleep.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 12 2014 09:40 GMT
#526
On August 11 2014 23:47 onevone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 23:37 Koshi wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:30 onevone wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:24 Koshi wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:20 onevone wrote:
You're wrong to color that line red. It was just a null point separating MM1's early play from Mages (in addition to Mages' active contribution to the discussion).

Why is it scummy that MM1 talked with Koshi & Damdred about Avatar when we were talking about Avatar.

Why is it scummy that when Mages posted about being afraid to post because he is new that MM1 said that Mages didn't need to be afraid to post because there were others just like Mages who are pretty new to forum mafia. Why is comforting people scummy?
On August 11 2014 08:48 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
hahah, don't worry about it Mages. I'm decent at video mafia, but im super trash at forum mafia. You'll see later that my cases probably need some work, so i'll be trying to focus on improving my accusations. I'm pretty extroverted, and i play a ton of sports. ATM it's summer vacation so its pretty much just work and studying for my classes in the fall. The 3 that i'm taking are all important to get into my major. I start school in a month and a half and i'm training for a tough mudder as well!





I am calling this now:

Mysterymeat1 is TOWN

I put money on it. Going against this is going against me.


Please read again. I have never said that it's scummy to post about Avatar.

It's not really definitely scummy to trash yourself. It's just that often scum are more keen to appear useless / meaningless as a player so that they won't be accused of being useless in the discussion.

You don't agree that the reason to why Mysterymeat " trashed himself" was to make Mages feel more comfortable? Because that looks pretty pro-town to me.

On August 11 2014 23:25 onevone wrote:
The *case* isn't really scummy in itself, no. It just didn't feel good to have a big push on VE based on very weak / subjective reasons immediately after he was voted by VE. It felt like an OMGUS / panic reaction that scum might make in his situation.

Dude. I just fucking coloured 50% of the things MysteryMeat said in green.

TELL ME WHY THOSE THINGS ARE SCUMMY. You said this:

On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
2) MysteryMeat1
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much

I just gave you 4 reasons to townread MysteryMeat of that case. Tell me why those 4 reasons are bad.

Because your vote is currently on MysteryMeat because this:
On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:

2) MysteryMeat1

Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.

After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.

##Vote MysteryMeat1


So if I know analyze these 2 points you made about MysterMeat1
1) Downplayed + talked about Avatar
---> Like I said. This is not scummy. He talked with some people about Avatar. He comforted Mages.

2) He makes a case on VE that doesn't say much.
---> Probably the best case in the game so far. At least way better than all the cases on MysterMeat. I am still waiting on somebody telling me the 4 green bolded things in his case are more likely to come from scum than town. Because I see it coming more likely from town.



Why is your vote still on MysteryMeat?

##unvote
##vote: onevone


Why should my vote not be on MysteryMeat1? Should I rather not vote at all? I'll vote for someone else when I find someone more scummy. No point in not voting at all just because the read is weak.

I just said that the reasons in MM1's case are not scummy in themselves. Yet you continue to ask me why they are scummy. I only said that the timing + weak (not scummy) reasoning of the case didn't look good, making it look more like a panic reaction. It's plausible that the case itself is a genuine town thought process.



Like this post here he admits is vote is weak but not moveing it. I just dont understand him here. MM1 wasnt his only scum read at the time iirc, and when the holes in his case were shone and he admits the read is weak, why keep going at it at that point, I dont understand it.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 12 2014 09:45 GMT
#527
On August 12 2014 18:40 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 23:47 onevone wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:37 Koshi wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:30 onevone wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:24 Koshi wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:20 onevone wrote:
You're wrong to color that line red. It was just a null point separating MM1's early play from Mages (in addition to Mages' active contribution to the discussion).

Why is it scummy that MM1 talked with Koshi & Damdred about Avatar when we were talking about Avatar.

Why is it scummy that when Mages posted about being afraid to post because he is new that MM1 said that Mages didn't need to be afraid to post because there were others just like Mages who are pretty new to forum mafia. Why is comforting people scummy?
On August 11 2014 08:48 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
hahah, don't worry about it Mages. I'm decent at video mafia, but im super trash at forum mafia. You'll see later that my cases probably need some work, so i'll be trying to focus on improving my accusations. I'm pretty extroverted, and i play a ton of sports. ATM it's summer vacation so its pretty much just work and studying for my classes in the fall. The 3 that i'm taking are all important to get into my major. I start school in a month and a half and i'm training for a tough mudder as well!





I am calling this now:

Mysterymeat1 is TOWN

I put money on it. Going against this is going against me.


Please read again. I have never said that it's scummy to post about Avatar.

It's not really definitely scummy to trash yourself. It's just that often scum are more keen to appear useless / meaningless as a player so that they won't be accused of being useless in the discussion.

You don't agree that the reason to why Mysterymeat " trashed himself" was to make Mages feel more comfortable? Because that looks pretty pro-town to me.

On August 11 2014 23:25 onevone wrote:
The *case* isn't really scummy in itself, no. It just didn't feel good to have a big push on VE based on very weak / subjective reasons immediately after he was voted by VE. It felt like an OMGUS / panic reaction that scum might make in his situation.

Dude. I just fucking coloured 50% of the things MysteryMeat said in green.

TELL ME WHY THOSE THINGS ARE SCUMMY. You said this:

On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
2) MysteryMeat1
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much

I just gave you 4 reasons to townread MysteryMeat of that case. Tell me why those 4 reasons are bad.

Because your vote is currently on MysteryMeat because this:
On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:

2) MysteryMeat1

Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.

After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.

##Vote MysteryMeat1


So if I know analyze these 2 points you made about MysterMeat1
1) Downplayed + talked about Avatar
---> Like I said. This is not scummy. He talked with some people about Avatar. He comforted Mages.

2) He makes a case on VE that doesn't say much.
---> Probably the best case in the game so far. At least way better than all the cases on MysterMeat. I am still waiting on somebody telling me the 4 green bolded things in his case are more likely to come from scum than town. Because I see it coming more likely from town.



Why is your vote still on MysteryMeat?

##unvote
##vote: onevone


Why should my vote not be on MysteryMeat1? Should I rather not vote at all? I'll vote for someone else when I find someone more scummy. No point in not voting at all just because the read is weak.

I just said that the reasons in MM1's case are not scummy in themselves. Yet you continue to ask me why they are scummy. I only said that the timing + weak (not scummy) reasoning of the case didn't look good, making it look more like a panic reaction. It's plausible that the case itself is a genuine town thought process.



Like this post here he admits is vote is weak but not moveing it. I just dont understand him here. MM1 wasnt his only scum read at the time iirc, and when the holes in his case were shone and he admits the read is weak, why keep going at it at that point, I dont understand it.

Yeah. I am 100% with you on that. There are big reasons to why this 1v1 guy is scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 12 2014 09:58 GMT
#528
Day 1 Votecount


MysteryMeat1 ( 2 ) - kushm4sta, VisceraEyes, HaruRH, kushm4sta
TheKingOfTheCats ( 3 ) - onevone, Mages, batsnacks
VisceraEyes ( 0 ) - Koshi
onevone ( 1 ) - raynpelikoneet
Mages ( 1 ) - Damdred
batsnacks ( 2 ) - kushm4sta, Sn0_Man, Koshi
HaruRH ( 3 ) - kushm4sta, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta, Mysterymeat

There are ~12 hours until deadline. You need 7 votes to lynch someone today.


[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 12 2014 10:09 GMT
#529
On August 12 2014 09:50 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Currently on page 10 and posting as i read. I don't know if these questions have already been answered. Also expect double/triple/octuple/whatever posts, i don't care if it's against the rules, it's necessary.
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 22:26 onevone wrote:
On August 11 2014 22:20 Koshi wrote:
Double posting is against the rules.


On August 11 2014 21:53 HaruRH wrote:
Oh no my bear went to quit this game for the newbie game. Now I am left defenseless against the onslaught of treachery. Koshi, i command you to save me

Post more stuff. As you can see this game is slow as fuck. Post more stuff. Tell us about your life. No hiding behind people if there is nothing to talk about in the thread. I cannot let you hide behind me if I can't shoot on anybody else.


On August 11 2014 22:02 onevone wrote:
On August 11 2014 21:48 Koshi wrote:
On August 11 2014 21:27 onevone wrote:
You still here Koshi?

On August 11 2014 21:28 onevone wrote:
Oh, I guess not. Unless you've been waiting for hours

Ofc I am still here. I watched the thread view count go up from 2065 to 2135 before anybody replied.

I am close to lynching rayn.


Close to lynching rayn? Based on his somewhat useless commentary so far?

No. Because I was all alone in this thread and rayn didn't talk to me. And it was likely him and Kush and probably some evul cohost roaming the thread.


On August 11 2014 22:16 kushm4sta wrote:
classic scum move:

"Anybody here? Guess not
k bye"

Yes. I like this.
There was no reason for onevone to not ask his question when he had one for me.


Well, I don't think it's a good idea to lynch rayn D1 anyway.

What does your last sentence mean?

Why don't you think it's a good idea to lynch Rayn D1? You're implying that he may be a good lynch at a later date so what has he done to make you think he's scummy? And why is it a better idea to lynch MM over Rayn today?


rayn is a great asset as town so it's pretty risky to lynch him immediately even if he seems a bit suspicious. As scum I'm always delighted when a veteran player gets somehow lynched on D1, so it's kind of my policy to prevent that as town unless there are heavy reasons to lynch.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 12 2014 10:09 GMT
#530
KOC it's been now 36h. Time to start providing conclusioms instead of asking endless questions.
table for two on a tv tray
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 12 2014 10:16 GMT
#531
On August 12 2014 09:58 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 23:47 onevone wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:37 Koshi wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:30 onevone wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:24 Koshi wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:20 onevone wrote:
You're wrong to color that line red. It was just a null point separating MM1's early play from Mages (in addition to Mages' active contribution to the discussion).

Why is it scummy that MM1 talked with Koshi & Damdred about Avatar when we were talking about Avatar.

Why is it scummy that when Mages posted about being afraid to post because he is new that MM1 said that Mages didn't need to be afraid to post because there were others just like Mages who are pretty new to forum mafia. Why is comforting people scummy?
On August 11 2014 08:48 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
hahah, don't worry about it Mages. I'm decent at video mafia, but im super trash at forum mafia. You'll see later that my cases probably need some work, so i'll be trying to focus on improving my accusations. I'm pretty extroverted, and i play a ton of sports. ATM it's summer vacation so its pretty much just work and studying for my classes in the fall. The 3 that i'm taking are all important to get into my major. I start school in a month and a half and i'm training for a tough mudder as well!





I am calling this now:

Mysterymeat1 is TOWN

I put money on it. Going against this is going against me.


Please read again. I have never said that it's scummy to post about Avatar.

It's not really definitely scummy to trash yourself. It's just that often scum are more keen to appear useless / meaningless as a player so that they won't be accused of being useless in the discussion.

You don't agree that the reason to why Mysterymeat " trashed himself" was to make Mages feel more comfortable? Because that looks pretty pro-town to me.

On August 11 2014 23:25 onevone wrote:
The *case* isn't really scummy in itself, no. It just didn't feel good to have a big push on VE based on very weak / subjective reasons immediately after he was voted by VE. It felt like an OMGUS / panic reaction that scum might make in his situation.

Dude. I just fucking coloured 50% of the things MysteryMeat said in green.

TELL ME WHY THOSE THINGS ARE SCUMMY. You said this:

On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
2) MysteryMeat1
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much

I just gave you 4 reasons to townread MysteryMeat of that case. Tell me why those 4 reasons are bad.

Because your vote is currently on MysteryMeat because this:
On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:

2) MysteryMeat1

Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.

After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.

##Vote MysteryMeat1


So if I know analyze these 2 points you made about MysterMeat1
1) Downplayed + talked about Avatar
---> Like I said. This is not scummy. He talked with some people about Avatar. He comforted Mages.

2) He makes a case on VE that doesn't say much.
---> Probably the best case in the game so far. At least way better than all the cases on MysterMeat. I am still waiting on somebody telling me the 4 green bolded things in his case are more likely to come from scum than town. Because I see it coming more likely from town.



Why is your vote still on MysteryMeat?

##unvote
##vote: onevone


Why should my vote not be on MysteryMeat1? Should I rather not vote at all? I'll vote for someone else when I find someone more scummy. No point in not voting at all just because the read is weak.

I just said that the reasons in MM1's case are not scummy in themselves. Yet you continue to ask me why they are scummy. I only said that the timing + weak (not scummy) reasoning of the case didn't look good, making it look more like a panic reaction. It's plausible that the case itself is a genuine town thought process.

So you're saying that one of the points you have against MM is that he made a non alignment indicative post at a bad time? How does that combined with him saying his play wasn't the best make him scummy?


What I disliked was that he made the case only in reaction to getting votes and aimed at one of the wagoners. It just felt a bit like an unnatural panic reaction, I guess. But it's not a big point against him anyway and currently I don't feel very comfortable lynching him.
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 12 2014 10:21 GMT
#532
On August 12 2014 18:40 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 23:47 onevone wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:37 Koshi wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:30 onevone wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:24 Koshi wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:20 onevone wrote:
You're wrong to color that line red. It was just a null point separating MM1's early play from Mages (in addition to Mages' active contribution to the discussion).

Why is it scummy that MM1 talked with Koshi & Damdred about Avatar when we were talking about Avatar.

Why is it scummy that when Mages posted about being afraid to post because he is new that MM1 said that Mages didn't need to be afraid to post because there were others just like Mages who are pretty new to forum mafia. Why is comforting people scummy?
On August 11 2014 08:48 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
hahah, don't worry about it Mages. I'm decent at video mafia, but im super trash at forum mafia. You'll see later that my cases probably need some work, so i'll be trying to focus on improving my accusations. I'm pretty extroverted, and i play a ton of sports. ATM it's summer vacation so its pretty much just work and studying for my classes in the fall. The 3 that i'm taking are all important to get into my major. I start school in a month and a half and i'm training for a tough mudder as well!





I am calling this now:

Mysterymeat1 is TOWN

I put money on it. Going against this is going against me.


Please read again. I have never said that it's scummy to post about Avatar.

It's not really definitely scummy to trash yourself. It's just that often scum are more keen to appear useless / meaningless as a player so that they won't be accused of being useless in the discussion.

You don't agree that the reason to why Mysterymeat " trashed himself" was to make Mages feel more comfortable? Because that looks pretty pro-town to me.

On August 11 2014 23:25 onevone wrote:
The *case* isn't really scummy in itself, no. It just didn't feel good to have a big push on VE based on very weak / subjective reasons immediately after he was voted by VE. It felt like an OMGUS / panic reaction that scum might make in his situation.

Dude. I just fucking coloured 50% of the things MysteryMeat said in green.

TELL ME WHY THOSE THINGS ARE SCUMMY. You said this:

On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
2) MysteryMeat1
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much

I just gave you 4 reasons to townread MysteryMeat of that case. Tell me why those 4 reasons are bad.

Because your vote is currently on MysteryMeat because this:
On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:

2) MysteryMeat1

Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.

After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.

##Vote MysteryMeat1


So if I know analyze these 2 points you made about MysterMeat1
1) Downplayed + talked about Avatar
---> Like I said. This is not scummy. He talked with some people about Avatar. He comforted Mages.

2) He makes a case on VE that doesn't say much.
---> Probably the best case in the game so far. At least way better than all the cases on MysterMeat. I am still waiting on somebody telling me the 4 green bolded things in his case are more likely to come from scum than town. Because I see it coming more likely from town.



Why is your vote still on MysteryMeat?

##unvote
##vote: onevone


Why should my vote not be on MysteryMeat1? Should I rather not vote at all? I'll vote for someone else when I find someone more scummy. No point in not voting at all just because the read is weak.

I just said that the reasons in MM1's case are not scummy in themselves. Yet you continue to ask me why they are scummy. I only said that the timing + weak (not scummy) reasoning of the case didn't look good, making it look more like a panic reaction. It's plausible that the case itself is a genuine town thought process.



Like this post here he admits is vote is weak but not moveing it. I just dont understand him here. MM1 wasnt his only scum read at the time iirc, and when the holes in his case were shone and he admits the read is weak, why keep going at it at that point, I dont understand it.


It was my only (weak) scumread at that point, by the way. I don't really see why I should unvote just because I'm not that confident in him flipping scum, if there's no better choice available. Later on I did change my mind a bit and came to the conclusion that he isn't a very good lynch for today (mainly because of his lynchbait status and some townie factors in his filter).
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 12 2014 10:23 GMT
#533
On August 12 2014 19:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
KOC it's been now 36h. Time to start providing conclusioms instead of asking endless questions.


I agree, but at the same time... What happened to your scumread on me?
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 12 2014 10:26 GMT
#534
Hm. I kind of like that KoC has started to post more. He should really start to post some conclusions as well though. The endless questions, combined with his earlier "I don't know if these have been already answered or not", don't really look like he cares too much about the answers :/
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 12 2014 10:30 GMT
#535
On August 12 2014 17:37 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2014 17:07 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah i guess haru. Ive been going through filters and I can't find people I want to vote.

##haru

Haru's just joking around and not playing. As he does as scum. As town yes - he jokes - but he also plays.
mafia.

In the one other game i've played with Haru he was scum and he played quite a bit, he also didn't joke around at all.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/450895-newbie-mini-mafia-lvi?user=HaruRH&page=2

Granted you can't get a good meta from someone after playing 1 game with them but from what i've observed the reason you're voting for Haru completely backwards.


Wow, looks like Haru was pretty active as scum there. And serious too. Not sure where rayn gets his meta heuristic?
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 12 2014 10:35 GMT
#536
batsnacks went really hard for KoC lately. I mostly agree with his thoughts so I'm not too worried about that. Although I don't think separating your questions into multiple posts is necessarily to obscure them.... I think they would be harder to notice if everything was in a giant post or something.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 12 2014 10:36 GMT
#537
I think KoC is town. Do I need to make a towncase?
I had a good night of sleep.
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 12 2014 10:38 GMT
#538
Go ahead.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 12 2014 10:42 GMT
#539
No. I don't have to. I am sure he is not the best lynch. He is very likely town anyway.

Hmm but proving KoC is town might makes it easier for people to find scum.

Oh well.

batsnacks is not scummy to you?
I had a good night of sleep.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 12 2014 10:44 GMT
#540
Alright I'm backa. I have made a nice little chart of everything that have happened so far (who called who scum/town etc) and I have noticed some weird stuff:

Out of the many interactions over here, 3 stood out for me:

1)MM1 called 1v1 town, but 1v1 called MM1 scum. It is almost like they chose to talk about each other just so that they have content about one another.
2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.
3)Damndred/mages interaction feels out of place and feels forced. It almost feels like they are staging a show just to show that they interacted with one another. They used meta from unquotable/uncheckable sources that obviously shows that they are staging some sort of performance.

As such, I have my list out:

Top town: Haru

Leaning town: MM1 (he always die early and is always the lynch target)

Fence: kush, mages, rayn, onegu, kotc, damndred, sn0,bat (I still need time to evaluate their game play).

Leaning scum: koshi (he has been the most wishy washy player till now)
VE (his reads are not consistent)
1v1 (his reads feels forced and rehearsed, almost a perfect copy each time he gives his list)
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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