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VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 20:36 GMT

#1907

Convince him of what? You'd better start by convincing him to remove his vote from VE. outside of that, you do what you gotta do - but I'll be trying to convince him that you're a scumlord and that you need to die. I swear to God if you die I'll look into rayn. I WILL. But I think it's you Koshi based on your play this day - it's too erratic. Too much like a scum who had control of the game and just lost it.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 20:49 GMT

#1909

Like during D2 all Koshi did was piss and moan about people not being on his lynch, while simultaneously saying "Well I coudl be wrong, etc etc, we should REALLY be lynching VE"

And then rayn came in and made a big case on MM1 and Koshi AGAIN tried to jump off onto MM1.

It's pretty open and shut. Koshi just wanted to look good when batsnacks flipped town. He gave the hammer to rayn, who hammered batsnacks.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 20:50 GMT

#1910

*when batsnacks flipped mafia

If he was so sure as town he would have been accusing rayn of trying to cockblock his lynch, not wishywash about MM1 and then GIVE rayn the hammer.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 20:53 GMT

#1912

I've been playing the whole time. Backhanded compliment accepted though.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 20:57 GMT

#1915

For the record, I'm no one's buddy. Rayn and Koshi have both been insulting me and my play all game. I haven't forgotten this. I'm just looking at the facts and stating my opinions.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 21:08 GMT

#1916

Like Koshi is making a concentrated effort to make me look scummy - he should be PRAYING TO GOD that I get killed int he night because if I do then it like, HARD confirms him as town REGARDLESS of his actual alignment. Because I saved him, whether he's scum and nokilled or town and got saved, he's HARD CONFIRMED THE TARGET OF A MEDIC'S SAVE. So why is he going to all these lengths to ensure that I'm not only suspicious enough to lynch, but suspicious enough for mafia to keep me alive?

BECAUSE HE'S MAFIA TRYING TO GET ME LYNCHED. If he were town and saw a no kill, and the medic claimed to save him AFTER the mafia he just killed tried to counterclaim his role, HE'D HAVE A PRETTY HARD TOWNREAD ON THE MEDIC REGARDLESS OF THAT MEDIC'S PLAY UP TO THAT POINT REGARDLESS. Why? Because as town YOU DON'T KNOW WHO TO TRUST! So when something happens that gives him reason to trust, he should GRAB HOLD AND NEVER LET GO. But he doesn't. He NEVER trusts VE. That's a sign of mafia pushing an agenda - he never reevaluates me until THIS cycle, and even in this cycle he goes from saying I'm probably the medic and my posts look better than he has been saying ALL GAME LONG to saying that the lurklord Onegu looks townier than I do and he'd lynch me over Onegu.

KOSHI'S PLAY DOES NOT LINE UP WITH A TOWNIE MINDSET AT ALL.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 21:20 GMT

#1919

Think of it from this perspective Onegu and Haru - imagine it had been you. Imagine if I had claimed a save on you and the next day there was no kill. Given that the mafia batsnacks literally tried to counterclaim medic, wouldn't you trust VE just a little bit more? Koshi NEVER DOES. Try and imagine why. Then look at last night's kill. If you're mafia and you know VE is town and the medic, who do YOU kill? Do you try and kill koshi or Haru? OR do you kill Sn0, someone who is not only pretty much guaranteed not to be protected, but has been calling VE, the town aligned medic, mafia all game?

It's not me guys. It's either rayn or Koshi or Onegu. Based on what I've been reading in Koshi's filter, I give Koshi/Onegu about the same chances of being scum and I'm leaning more town on rayn now. I HATE HOW HE PLAYS, but he might be right about Koshi. If he's not I'll look into rayn tomorrow if I'm still alive. I still think the Onegu thing is telling, but he might just be town and misremembering stuff...though he DID get really really active when called out earlier. I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on that.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 21:29 GMT

#1921

Good for him. You've been on my ass about being useless and how little I've contributed, but since Onegu was with you on the batsnacks lynch, that makes him more townie than mod-confirmed townie VE.

I'm not buying it Koshi.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 21:38 GMT

#1925

Mod confirmed that no kills occurred. So unless as town you still think I held my shot as mafia, and would shoot Sn0, my loudest opposition instead of rayn or Onegu or FUCKING HARU OR ANYONE ELSE IN THE FUCKING GAME, then I'm MOD CONFIRMED TOWN TO YOU KOSHI!

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 21:48 GMT

#1930

You don't think I'm an easier mislynch than anyone? With rayn and Onegu both putting me on the table today, and with confirmed town Haru's vote CURRENTLY on me, you don't think I'm an easier mislynch than anyone? OKAY KOSHI.

You're right, continuing to talk to you is only serving to further bias myself.

But you do need to explain why even after you say that you've gone over my posts and they're "not as bad as I thought", and saying I'm probably the medic, why you say that you'd lynch me over Onegu, or put me at a higher percentage of being mafia. You DO need to qualify those with reasoning, in case you are town. Because if Onegu is really as townie as you say with half the filter I have, and NO medic save on you to his credit, I need to see what you're seeing.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 22:06 GMT

#1933

Like there's quite a bit in Onegu's filter that reads like TMI, like

On August 13 2014 01:11 Onegu wrote:
Rayn what are your thoughts on damdred.

He isnt looking to good to me. Is interaction with mages was like oh you call me scum right back at ya.

And he really wanted to protect bats

Like, clearly Damdred was NOT trying to "protect bats" because Damdred was town. But how did he know bats needed protecting? Sure he has a read, but strong enough to base another read on? And this other read is him pushing someone OTHER than bats anyway!

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 22:08 GMT

#1935

BUT STILL WHAT? He also goes on to try and push 1v1 instead of bats. Like, what are you basing this rock solid read on Koshi? I want to know! I'm asking!

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 22:54 GMT

#1938

On August 21 2014 07:11 Koshi wrote:
The fact he defends MM1 while pushing his only scumbuddy D2.

That is so unlikely to come from scum.

Like, and this isn't a terrible point, but as I showed you in the post I just quoted FROM D2, it's not like he was EXCLUSIVELY pushing his scumbuddy, he was keeping his options open too. Like I'm accusing you of doing now, he was doing D2 with the bats lynch. Are you town and biased because he agreed with you on what you perceive to be your legacy in this game? Because if so that's bullshit, but I understand it because that's kinda where I'm at with rayn and his defending me based on how NONSENSICAL thinking I'm scum is at this point.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 22:57 GMT

#1939

Like, yes Koshi, it's fucking nonsense to just automatically assume that with a bunch of heat on me I'd ever consider not killing someone and giving town a lynch. I just wouldn't like ever do it, and frankly the only reason I think you'd do it is because of how blind you have been to that point. Like I said, I think the only reason you're so sure that it COULD have happened, and why you're so convinced that it's a LIKELY play mafia would make is because YOU KNOW FOR A FACT THAT MAFIA WOULD MAKE IT.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 21 2014 04:13 GMT

#1947

Haru can you come talk to me man? We need to figure this game out

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 21 2014 04:24 GMT

#1948

Koshi's towncases on Onegu are shit. The things he says aren't even true, like the whole time Onegu is just calling out random people that aren't batsnacks, while professing to want to lynch batsnacks and basing his reads on batsnacks being red BEFORE his flip. It all reeks of Onegu already knowing bats is going to flip mafia and trying to make other people look scummy.

Like, when he calls out me he says something like "There are WAY more lurkers than batsnacks and I"

LIKE REALLY?!?!!? HE EVEN DEFENDS BATSNACKS JUST TO DIG AT ME?!?!

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 21 2014 04:28 GMT

#1949

And Koshi's all "That's a good callout on VE"

ALL MY WAT

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 21 2014 17:20 GMT

#2005

##Unvote
##Vote: Onegu

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 21 2014 17:22 GMT

#2006

Yeah, Onegu scum is way more likely than Koshi holding his shot in any world. And I'll decide which is more likely between "Koshi holding his shot" and "Rayn targetting Koshi over Haru" if Onegu flips town.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 21 2014 17:27 GMT

#2007

So why are you guys voting rayn again? Can I get the main points?

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