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On August 06 2014 00:05 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 08:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 05 2014 03:32 kushm4sta wrote:On August 05 2014 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That's a pretty bad list kush. how do you know I'm on it for one, and I have minor townreads on the other two. Haru, you've mentioned you favour Obi the most for a lynch today. Why have you not been pushing him or trying to interact with him? He's here and he's your biggest scumread yet you're not doing anything. On August 05 2014 07:30 Eden1892 wrote:
poofter town lean for posting relaxed and carefree like a townie
minor town lean tho he needs to actually do something or else he'll be on the radar by day's end
gobble i'd have to go look up specifics to give a coherent explanation but i remember his posts having a lot of clarity of direction to them. he seemed like he was playing open and like he wasn't holding anything back. just looks townie to me I don't think that's a good tell for poof. I've seen him post in cell as scum and he was very carefree there too. I'm not sure what really sets him out as mafia. Your meta read on poofter is the weirdest thing ever. You meta read as null if he was carefree, but town if he spammed town today. How are these 2 mutually exclusive such that a non-carefree pooft would spam town over a carefree pooft, who wouldn't and thus fall into his supposed mafia meta, which you alteady said you don't know what sets him out as mafia?
I said that carefree wasn't alignment indicative for him because he's done it as both scum and town. I've seen pooft spam that he's town 100 times in a game I've played with him, which he did as town. Someone brought up that he would never do that as scum. I'm not sure of it but I figure it's a decent heuristic. I never said that carefree or non-carefree indicates anything for poof; he's just naturally carefree.
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On August 06 2014 00:06 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 00:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 06 2014 00:03 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 00:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 06 2014 00:00 justanothertownie wrote:On August 05 2014 23:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 05 2014 23:55 kushm4sta wrote:
itt artanis sheeps/buddies marv, gangbangs haru But I have different reasons for scumreading haru than marv does and voted him before he did. Marv showed a stronger inclination to lynch Vivax first. But you didn't really push it before marv started to. Now that he is on it you suddenly start to question Haru. Actually, it was after Gobble that I did. Which was basically at the same time? I had already indicated Haru was my top scumread, so it's not really relevant. Yes, it is. You did indicate it earlier but you only started pushing and more importantly questioning when they started to.
I really don't see how it's alignment indicative. I went to do other things, saw that Haru came back into the thread and started pushing him as he did more scummy stuff.
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HF do you not want to lynch haru anymore or is it just Vivax being even scummier?
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Also I can't get behind Gobble as scum. I know I'm town and I see no reason why he'd abandon my wagon when there's still plenty of steam for it. The change in attitude when it was unnecessary makes no sense for him from a scum perspective.
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On August 06 2014 04:32 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 04:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also I can't get behind Gobble as scum. I know I'm town and I see no reason why he'd abandon my wagon when there's still plenty of steam for it. The change in attitude when it was unnecessary makes no sense for him from a scum perspective. There wasn't a reason for marv to push any townie over Xata in titanic and yet he did exactly that. Faulty faulty reasoning.
Because Marv and Gobble are extremely comparable players. Take into context that Gobble is not a high volume poster.
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On August 06 2014 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Your reasoning isn't acceptable if you look at the facts posted. It's that typical egocentric reasoning any scum can use by saying "I know I'm town", and even if it was true it would be so WIFOM-y that it would exactly lead to nowhere.
I'm telling you why I'm not voting for him. I have information that you don't; my alignment. It also doesn't matter if scum can abuse it. I know it can be abused, it IS abused, but I don't think Gobble would simply due to his seeming nature as a low volume poster.
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On August 06 2014 04:42 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 04:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 06 2014 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Your reasoning isn't acceptable if you look at the facts posted. It's that typical egocentric reasoning any scum can use by saying "I know I'm town", and even if it was true it would be so WIFOM-y that it would exactly lead to nowhere. I'm telling you why I'm not voting for him. I have information that you don't; my alignment. It also doesn't matter if scum can abuse it. I know it can be abused, it IS abused, but I don't think Gobble would simply due to his seeming nature as a low volume poster. So you're saying that no matter how scummy a guy looks, you're going to vote for him cause he unvoted you when your wagon had the chance to get you lynched? It completely skips over any post analysis.
I'm saying that given the amount of content he's provided and the amount of time he's spent in the thread I don't consider him a good lynch candidate even solely based off that, yes. On top of that, I think his initial read on me was warranted. He's one of the people I'm least interested in lynching today.
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On August 06 2014 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 04:42 Vivax wrote:On August 06 2014 04:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 06 2014 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Your reasoning isn't acceptable if you look at the facts posted. It's that typical egocentric reasoning any scum can use by saying "I know I'm town", and even if it was true it would be so WIFOM-y that it would exactly lead to nowhere. I'm telling you why I'm not voting for him. I have information that you don't; my alignment. It also doesn't matter if scum can abuse it. I know it can be abused, it IS abused, but I don't think Gobble would simply due to his seeming nature as a low volume poster. So you're saying that no matter how scummy a guy looks, you're going to vote for him cause he unvoted you when your wagon had the chance to get you lynched? It completely skips over any post analysis. There are some more logical problems with it. 1) If the wagon still has steam maybe he didn't want to be on a mislynch wagon? 2) I don't think anything was settled at that point in time. Artanis is giving the unvote way to much weight.
1) He started the wagon and wasn't the one pushing it through. It doesn't seem likely that it'd come back to haunt him.
2) Of course not, but you'd want to keep the train in motion as scum.
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On August 06 2014 04:47 Eden1892 wrote:
who the fuck are we lynching today?
I'd still like to see Haru hang from a tree. His questions towards me when he had the chance really didn't go anywhere and I was unsatisfied with his replies regarding my points on him.
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On August 06 2014 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
Has jaru disappeared now ppl are defending him AGAIN???
He went to bed, and with his timezone I believe it.
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On August 06 2014 04:50 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 04:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 06 2014 04:42 Vivax wrote:On August 06 2014 04:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 06 2014 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Your reasoning isn't acceptable if you look at the facts posted. It's that typical egocentric reasoning any scum can use by saying "I know I'm town", and even if it was true it would be so WIFOM-y that it would exactly lead to nowhere. I'm telling you why I'm not voting for him. I have information that you don't; my alignment. It also doesn't matter if scum can abuse it. I know it can be abused, it IS abused, but I don't think Gobble would simply due to his seeming nature as a low volume poster. So you're saying that no matter how scummy a guy looks, you're going to vote for him cause he unvoted you when your wagon had the chance to get you lynched? It completely skips over any post analysis. I'm saying that given the amount of content he's provided and the amount of time he's spent in the thread I don't consider him a good lynch candidate even solely based off that, yes. On top of that, I think his initial read on me was warranted. He's one of the people I'm least interested in lynching today. I would argue he's one of the guys who posted the least, if not THE guy who posted the least, so I don't see why now you use a post volume argument.
The post volume to content, and intelligent decision making ratio seems too high for him to likely be scum to me.
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I dunno, it seems like a really weird thing to lie about, especially when the guy that played that game with you is playing in this game too. Doesn't really make sense.
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Did you actually do that GD reread, Obi?
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On August 06 2014 05:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 05:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Did you actually do that GD reread, Obi? Nah.
Would you do work if threatened with getting lynched?
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On August 06 2014 05:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 05:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 06 2014 05:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 06 2014 05:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Did you actually do that GD reread, Obi? Nah. Would you do work if threatened with getting lynched? Idk. If this is what you call scumhunting it's really dumb.
It was a set up for a funny, but you didn't really co-operate there.
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On August 06 2014 05:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 05:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 06 2014 05:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 06 2014 05:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 06 2014 05:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 06 2014 05:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Did you actually do that GD reread, Obi? Nah. Would you do work if threatened with getting lynched? Idk. If this is what you call scumhunting it's really dumb. It was a set up for a funny, but you didn't really co-operate there. Lynching me is never funny, Artanis. Never.
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I'm fine with killing Obi on D2 if he doesn't get his shit together. Right now it's a bit too late to pressure vote though.
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Marv do you still want to lynch Vivax over Haru today?
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On August 06 2014 05:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 05:54 kushm4sta wrote:
jat, i dont get why you are so strung up on that.
haru thought the METHODS behind the reads were scummy. the reads themselves were early so ofc scum could be busing or his reads could be straight up wrong. Yeah? I don't get how you can't see how blatantly scummy that is. It is like he just forgot his "scumreads".
This reminds me of someone, namely you. We've had pretty similar scumspects throughout the game (Haru, Obi at the start and Haru, Poof later on) yet I've been (one of) your top scumspects as well. What's up with that?
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