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On August 06 2014 07:47 marvellosity wrote:
i could literally lynch vivax right now
You will have to make up your mind sooner rather than later.
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On August 06 2014 07:49 Vivax wrote:
Yeah marv vote me.
Show your sick scumhunting skills to the game and let them see how my stuff came from confirmed town.
This is so dumb.
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On August 06 2014 07:51 Holyflare wrote:
Boom let's do it
Ok, I am down but be ready to switch back if we don't get enough people.
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On August 06 2014 07:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm really worried this'll head on to a no lynch.
Just be ready to switch to Haru I will be too.
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On August 06 2014 07:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not flipping. No more flipping for me.
We need to pick between Haru/GD and I refuse to consider Vivax until after lynch. Seriously, bandwagon flips are 100% guaranteed to kill town so we need to stop this switch right goddamn now.
What are you talking about? Bandwagons are NOT guaranteed to kill town.
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On August 06 2014 07:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 07:56 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 07:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not flipping. No more flipping for me.
We need to pick between Haru/GD and I refuse to consider Vivax until after lynch. Seriously, bandwagon flips are 100% guaranteed to kill town so we need to stop this switch right goddamn now. What are you talking about? Bandwagons are NOT guaranteed to kill town. Last-minute easy flips like this one? Are you serious?
Absolutely!
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Some switch to Vivax goddamn it. We can't no lynch.
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Why would you ask to be lynched -.-
I take full responsibility for this. Sorry.
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On August 06 2014 20:05 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 20:04 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 20:02 Holyflare wrote:
Well whatever go catch up and post your thoughts so i can tunnel you some more Cant wait for holyflare to drive in my tunnel *smirks* I bet you can't.
>_<
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On August 06 2014 11:44 gobbledydook wrote:
This is also the reason why I think last minute switches are retarded, you just don't give enough time for town to think through that choice and emotional pushes on wrong targets are what mafias like and want to see.
In my experience mafia are way more inclined to take their time and be wary of piling onto quick EOD wagons than townies.
On August 06 2014 12:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
I should go back and look at Shadow Game. I don't think it was Marv who started the D1 shenannies there though but he did go along with them. Maybe that's a bad example. bleh.
It was completely different there. He did not start it and was basically forced to go along with it. Here he could have easily lynched Haru instead.
On August 06 2014 12:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Just because I had problems picking between the first two targets doesn't mean I didn't have direction. I just couldn't make up my mind, and then town went and just fucking flipped because they thought Vivax was being an asshole.
This is not why Vivax was lynched.
On August 06 2014 13:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm super paranoid of Marv and Holyflare as well, though. Both of them had flat-out awful reasons for going after Vivax.
No, just no. You said yourself that Vivax play was concerning. What the hell are you talking about?
On August 06 2014 14:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That second quote doesn't say what you think it does, but I'll flesh it out.
I already told you that Marv went after Vivax because Vivax was being an asshole. I think you and I both agree that that's dumb.
I think the bigger issue is that Holyflare didn't like the fact that Vivax gave him answers about something, he ignored them, and then scumread Vivax for ignoring him. And then Marv agreed with him.
And then everyone is somehow okay with that mislynch because they think Vivax was mean to them.
STAHP. There are even more posts of yours with this line of reasoning. It is simply wrong and I hate how you are shitting on this lynch and the players on it without actually naming your suspects.
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On August 06 2014 16:52 Eden1892 wrote:
Regarding the other two, I can see Haru as a reasonable lynch, although he's second on the list for me after Obi. Haru feels a little more sincere to me. I could kill either but I want Obi first.
I understand where you (and some others) have been coming from re: Poofter but I'm pretty sure he's town. Call it a gut read I guess, I don't even have scum priors so I can't really speak to much authority on this point, but he just seems too carefree to be scum. You look at the stuff that he's done like the BMK reads, and sure it's something scum could plausibly do, but I feel like it's not something scum think to do, if that makes sense. I could be projecting because I know I get super serious when I play scum, but it's just difficult to be relaxed and do silly shit like that when you're constantly trying to avoid scrutiny. Remember the boring tell you cited earlier? I don't think Poofter has been boring at all.
I like your analysis and also your targets. I think Obi and Haru are really good lynches. I just don't agree with your poofter read.
On August 06 2014 18:59 marvellosity wrote:
i can't see a world where 1 of gobble/haru is not mafia. can't see that at all.
Agreed.
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On August 06 2014 20:19 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 05:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, I made my decision. I mean it this time, seriously for real.
##UNVOTE: gobbledydook
##VOTE: HaruRH
Like I said earlier, go look at Haru's filter. His vote has been on Artanis forever, but he explicitly backed off of Artanis in favor of gobbledydook. Haru hasn't been pushing his lynch target much at all this game, no matter who it's been. He has no thread presence by choice, lots of posting but he's not going anywhere with it. Furthermore, he seemed far too resigned to being lynched compared to my read on his personality from our previous game together. Haru is a fighter, he's a prideful player - great traits to have IMO. He wouldn't go down so meekly if he were town. He would have raised holy hell at the fact that a wagon piled up on him as quickly as it did and he would have fought like hell to get out of it. I know he's not around now due to timezones, that's not on him, but he had plenty of time to push the lynch he wanted and he didn't, and he had plenty of time to fight his lynch and he didn't. Of the lynches that look viable at this point, this is easily the best. I wanted to address this yesterday, but I was so down and busy trying to prove artanis is scummy that I didn't bother to. Eden, last time I fought the lynch, you personally attacked me so hard I nearly wanted to quit the game. Only the parity cop claim changed your mind. I also don't want to appease you, I don't feel the need to. I just need to play a game where I am not typing in all caps to prove a point. I am a fighter yes, but I am no fighter in d1. D1 haru is crap. So crap that any reads I make d1 are usually scumread (read: detention mafia, newbie mafia lvi) and the only time I survived d1 posting a read and push was during the most recent mafia game. Oh yes, I'll burn up when I have a conclusive read but people choose to push me instead. ^ this objective cannot be met if I literally cannot make reads d1.
I have trouble buying this attitude as townHaru.
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On August 06 2014 20:32 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 20:24 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 20:19 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 05:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, I made my decision. I mean it this time, seriously for real.
##UNVOTE: gobbledydook
##VOTE: HaruRH
Like I said earlier, go look at Haru's filter. His vote has been on Artanis forever, but he explicitly backed off of Artanis in favor of gobbledydook. Haru hasn't been pushing his lynch target much at all this game, no matter who it's been. He has no thread presence by choice, lots of posting but he's not going anywhere with it. Furthermore, he seemed far too resigned to being lynched compared to my read on his personality from our previous game together. Haru is a fighter, he's a prideful player - great traits to have IMO. He wouldn't go down so meekly if he were town. He would have raised holy hell at the fact that a wagon piled up on him as quickly as it did and he would have fought like hell to get out of it. I know he's not around now due to timezones, that's not on him, but he had plenty of time to push the lynch he wanted and he didn't, and he had plenty of time to fight his lynch and he didn't. Of the lynches that look viable at this point, this is easily the best. I wanted to address this yesterday, but I was so down and busy trying to prove artanis is scummy that I didn't bother to. Eden, last time I fought the lynch, you personally attacked me so hard I nearly wanted to quit the game. Only the parity cop claim changed your mind. I also don't want to appease you, I don't feel the need to. I just need to play a game where I am not typing in all caps to prove a point. I am a fighter yes, but I am no fighter in d1. D1 haru is crap. So crap that any reads I make d1 are usually scumread (read: detention mafia, newbie mafia lvi) and the only time I survived d1 posting a read and push was during the most recent mafia game. Oh yes, I'll burn up when I have a conclusive read but people choose to push me instead. ^ this objective cannot be met if I literally cannot make reads d1. I have trouble buying this attitude as townHaru. Explain.
I just don't think you are the type of player who plays himself down as town after your performance in Order. I really don't.
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On August 06 2014 20:42 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 20:35 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 20:32 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 20:24 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 20:19 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 05:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, I made my decision. I mean it this time, seriously for real.
##UNVOTE: gobbledydook
##VOTE: HaruRH
Like I said earlier, go look at Haru's filter. His vote has been on Artanis forever, but he explicitly backed off of Artanis in favor of gobbledydook. Haru hasn't been pushing his lynch target much at all this game, no matter who it's been. He has no thread presence by choice, lots of posting but he's not going anywhere with it. Furthermore, he seemed far too resigned to being lynched compared to my read on his personality from our previous game together. Haru is a fighter, he's a prideful player - great traits to have IMO. He wouldn't go down so meekly if he were town. He would have raised holy hell at the fact that a wagon piled up on him as quickly as it did and he would have fought like hell to get out of it. I know he's not around now due to timezones, that's not on him, but he had plenty of time to push the lynch he wanted and he didn't, and he had plenty of time to fight his lynch and he didn't. Of the lynches that look viable at this point, this is easily the best. I wanted to address this yesterday, but I was so down and busy trying to prove artanis is scummy that I didn't bother to. Eden, last time I fought the lynch, you personally attacked me so hard I nearly wanted to quit the game. Only the parity cop claim changed your mind. I also don't want to appease you, I don't feel the need to. I just need to play a game where I am not typing in all caps to prove a point. I am a fighter yes, but I am no fighter in d1. D1 haru is crap. So crap that any reads I make d1 are usually scumread (read: detention mafia, newbie mafia lvi) and the only time I survived d1 posting a read and push was during the most recent mafia game. Oh yes, I'll burn up when I have a conclusive read but people choose to push me instead. ^ this objective cannot be met if I literally cannot make reads d1. I have trouble buying this attitude as townHaru. Explain. I just don't think you are the type of player who plays himself down as town after your performance in Order. I really don't. Except that I was d1 scumread in 5/6 of my games. Make it 6/7.
Maybe. I still doubt you would change your tone this drastically.
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On August 06 2014 20:43 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 20:35 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 20:32 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 20:24 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 20:19 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 05:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, I made my decision. I mean it this time, seriously for real.
##UNVOTE: gobbledydook
##VOTE: HaruRH
Like I said earlier, go look at Haru's filter. His vote has been on Artanis forever, but he explicitly backed off of Artanis in favor of gobbledydook. Haru hasn't been pushing his lynch target much at all this game, no matter who it's been. He has no thread presence by choice, lots of posting but he's not going anywhere with it. Furthermore, he seemed far too resigned to being lynched compared to my read on his personality from our previous game together. Haru is a fighter, he's a prideful player - great traits to have IMO. He wouldn't go down so meekly if he were town. He would have raised holy hell at the fact that a wagon piled up on him as quickly as it did and he would have fought like hell to get out of it. I know he's not around now due to timezones, that's not on him, but he had plenty of time to push the lynch he wanted and he didn't, and he had plenty of time to fight his lynch and he didn't. Of the lynches that look viable at this point, this is easily the best. I wanted to address this yesterday, but I was so down and busy trying to prove artanis is scummy that I didn't bother to. Eden, last time I fought the lynch, you personally attacked me so hard I nearly wanted to quit the game. Only the parity cop claim changed your mind. I also don't want to appease you, I don't feel the need to. I just need to play a game where I am not typing in all caps to prove a point. I am a fighter yes, but I am no fighter in d1. D1 haru is crap. So crap that any reads I make d1 are usually scumread (read: detention mafia, newbie mafia lvi) and the only time I survived d1 posting a read and push was during the most recent mafia game. Oh yes, I'll burn up when I have a conclusive read but people choose to push me instead. ^ this objective cannot be met if I literally cannot make reads d1. I have trouble buying this attitude as townHaru. Explain. I just don't think you are the type of player who plays himself down as town after your performance in Order. I really don't. Hey jat I have an idea..how about you don't make assumptions about his behavior you really can't make.
How about I keep making assumptions the way I see fit. Did you play in Order/read the game?
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On August 06 2014 20:45 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 20:43 kushm4sta wrote:On August 06 2014 20:35 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 20:32 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 20:24 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 20:19 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 05:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, I made my decision. I mean it this time, seriously for real.
##UNVOTE: gobbledydook
##VOTE: HaruRH
Like I said earlier, go look at Haru's filter. His vote has been on Artanis forever, but he explicitly backed off of Artanis in favor of gobbledydook. Haru hasn't been pushing his lynch target much at all this game, no matter who it's been. He has no thread presence by choice, lots of posting but he's not going anywhere with it. Furthermore, he seemed far too resigned to being lynched compared to my read on his personality from our previous game together. Haru is a fighter, he's a prideful player - great traits to have IMO. He wouldn't go down so meekly if he were town. He would have raised holy hell at the fact that a wagon piled up on him as quickly as it did and he would have fought like hell to get out of it. I know he's not around now due to timezones, that's not on him, but he had plenty of time to push the lynch he wanted and he didn't, and he had plenty of time to fight his lynch and he didn't. Of the lynches that look viable at this point, this is easily the best. I wanted to address this yesterday, but I was so down and busy trying to prove artanis is scummy that I didn't bother to. Eden, last time I fought the lynch, you personally attacked me so hard I nearly wanted to quit the game. Only the parity cop claim changed your mind. I also don't want to appease you, I don't feel the need to. I just need to play a game where I am not typing in all caps to prove a point. I am a fighter yes, but I am no fighter in d1. D1 haru is crap. So crap that any reads I make d1 are usually scumread (read: detention mafia, newbie mafia lvi) and the only time I survived d1 posting a read and push was during the most recent mafia game. Oh yes, I'll burn up when I have a conclusive read but people choose to push me instead. ^ this objective cannot be met if I literally cannot make reads d1. I have trouble buying this attitude as townHaru. Explain. I just don't think you are the type of player who plays himself down as town after your performance in Order. I really don't. Hey jat I have an idea..how about you don't make assumptions about his behavior you really can't make. How about I keep making assumptions the way I see fit. Did you play in Order/read the game?
Ah yes, of course you did. Koshi shot you. If you paid attention in that game you would see that Harus attidude there was very different.
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