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On August 06 2014 03:26 Vivax wrote:
Not sure if you're town or scum based off this but going after 1 guy cause he self metaes himself as town isn't a sufficient reason to scumread somebody. I can see people of both alignments doing that and I might have resorted to it in the past when I was town as well though I cba to go back and prove it cause I don't want to take the meta ride right now. Same as marv self meta reads himself as not scum based on his past 2 games. I won't use that as a reason to scumread him but if you do it for Haru why don't you do it for your previous scumread marv???
Marv has made good posts and asked good questions, and Haru hasn't.
It's that simple.
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On August 06 2014 03:24 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 03:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 06 2014 03:16 kushm4sta wrote:On August 06 2014 02:51 kushm4sta wrote:On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts. On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:
Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere.
Dunno, but that might be him being purposefully dense. I noticed in his last scumgame he likes to subtly misrepresent people to make them look scummy. The misrepresentation is this: Haru isn't calling both people scummy, he's calling artanis scummy for buddying someone who looks scummy. im talking about gd here. he misunderstands haru it a way that makes haru look potentially scummy. Again, I don't think he's mafia. It's a matter of bad townie vs mafia posting, and I simply don't see anything mafia-esque about this post. Also, I don't know why you're talking about him subtly misrepresenting people, because the last scumgame he had that we were both in, he passionately went after Robik because of RNG. I don't really think that was necessarily "subtle" in any sense of the word. This is the post: Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 16:46 gobbledydook wrote:
First I don't think snickers and damdred are both mafia and making a show out of it. If they were both mafia, they wouldn't attack each other and give town a chance to lynch them. So at most 1 of them can be mafia.
What damdred did:
he defends robik's rng lynch, gives some excuse for being inactive, then accuses snickers of being scummy because he doesn't respond directly to questions. Then he votes BH for not having any read other than rng. BH dies right before he could unvote, day 2 he hammers MM1, then day 3 is damdred twisting himself hard to apologize for lynching 2 towns.
Here's my take on what damdred's thinking:
damdred the scum wanted some town cred, so he makes the obvious defense of robik, forgoing the chance to hammer him day 1 as it would be very suspicious. Snicker attacks his lack of contribution, and damdred gives an excuse, anniversary with wife etc. We don't know if that was actually true, so let's assume it was the case and damdred was indeed busy. Then, feeling the need to 'contribute', he looks at the person who last attacked him, looks through his filter, and picks holes in it. Unfortunately the snickers bandwagon doesn't work and seeing a promising BH bandwagon hops on it with little explanation. He puts unvote after the hammer has hit to earn towncred for attempting to thwart the mislynch.
Day 2 he hammers MM1 because it's a mislynch for the taking.
Day 3, snickers presses him on the BH vote and MM1 vote. Now feeling that snickers is on to something, he tries to defend himself and apologise and bend over himself, but snickers smells scum and he panics.
The impression is that he's only writing when being pressured, and otherwise trying to lay low.
I'm not going to vote yet, I want to hear more from everyone first.
I see it. I'll do a reread of his filter here and Noir 2 and come to a decision asap.
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On August 06 2014 03:32 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 03:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 06 2014 03:26 Vivax wrote:
Not sure if you're town or scum based off this but going after 1 guy cause he self metaes himself as town isn't a sufficient reason to scumread somebody. I can see people of both alignments doing that and I might have resorted to it in the past when I was town as well though I cba to go back and prove it cause I don't want to take the meta ride right now. Same as marv self meta reads himself as not scum based on his past 2 games. I won't use that as a reason to scumread him but if you do it for Haru why don't you do it for your previous scumread marv??? Marv has made good posts and asked good questions, and Haru hasn't. It's that simple. Do you think all scum make shitty posts and all town makes good posts?You still have a long way to go. You have to look at how people react to situations and if Gobble first soft defends haru and later scumreads him for a mix of reasons that already applied later when the wagon already has momentum you see that it's not a very townie reaction. His post just feels like the sort of post CR made on Xata in titanic.
No, I don't. What the fuck, that's just what I said GD was doing in terms of scumreading Haru.
I said I'll look into it, so I'm going to look into it.
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You can't kill me because you love me too much.
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On August 06 2014 05:17 Eden1892 wrote:
Welcome back Beetlejuice
Why aren't you doing anything this game?
Because I'm lazy and this game is comprised of a bunch of tryhards who want a belt.
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On August 06 2014 05:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Did you actually do that GD reread, Obi?
Nah.
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On August 06 2014 05:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 05:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 06 2014 05:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Did you actually do that GD reread, Obi? Nah. Would you do work if threatened with getting lynched?
Idk.
If this is what you call scumhunting it's really dumb.
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On August 06 2014 05:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 05:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 06 2014 05:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 06 2014 05:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 06 2014 05:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Did you actually do that GD reread, Obi? Nah. Would you do work if threatened with getting lynched? Idk. If this is what you call scumhunting it's really dumb. It was a set up for a funny, but you didn't really co-operate there.
Lynching me is never funny, Artanis.
Never.
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I'm tempted to sheep kush/Vivax just so I don't have to read gd's meta.
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Let's kill a lazy person over a scummy person.
#teamliquid
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Gobble/Haru are both scummy people.
Also, I've got like 5 townreads so don't even accuse me of not doing shit.
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I can get behind a Haru lynch.
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On August 06 2014 05:54 kushm4sta wrote:
obi nooo.
Why not?
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On August 06 2014 05:57 marvellosity wrote:
here's where i am. i don't feel very confident in a gobbledy lynch. maybe i'm just wrong and bad, but i don't really wanna vote for him.
maybe vivax is dickish enough to be town?
haru... i dno. i don't care that he talks about "methods", it's just like - he sarcastically listed off names he expected gobbledy to vote for who were all in his scumville. It doesn't make sense to me. Even with his explanations.
if I have some players in scumville, i don't go "well ha, i expect my mafiaread to vote for all my mafia suspects! lol!" like what?
It's pretty much either trusting my own scumread in Haru or sheeping Vivax/kush onto gd.
Why did you even have Vivax as mafia before? I figured he was town when he started going all gung-ho on GD, because he's a self-admittedly wishy-washy scum.
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Yeah I don't really want to waste time doing that right now. I'll do it after lynch.
I need a minute to think.
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On August 06 2014 06:01 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 05:58 kushm4sta wrote:On August 06 2014 05:57 marvellosity wrote:
here's where i am. i don't feel very confident in a gobbledy lynch. maybe i'm just wrong and bad, but i don't really wanna vote for him.
maybe vivax is dickish enough to be town?
haru... i dno. i don't care that he talks about "methods", it's just like - he sarcastically listed off names he expected gobbledy to vote for who were all in his scumville. It doesn't make sense to me. Even with his explanations.
if I have some players in scumville, i don't go "well ha, i expect my mafiaread to vote for all my mafia suspects! lol!" like what? not seeing the scum motivation behind this move? weird ok but scummy not really like do you go "yeah, obi is scum. he's like totally going to vote for artanis, gobbledy, and hf. he's totally going to vote in my scumlist so he's totes scum" how does a townie think that?
Simple: if that townie is an idiot.
Is Haru an idiot?
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I remember Haru had me as scum for similar reasons in Titanic.
Like I know his day 1 shit is incredibly asinine sometimes and it's the only thing stopping me from hammering him right now.
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Herp derp, I'm not reading the OP again.
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On August 06 2014 06:11 Holyflare wrote:
Really vivax is looking a lot like the vivax from when i smurfed and he was defending someone that others thought was scummy. He really didn't comment on haru at all and still attacks haru's aggressors instead. He is also stuck in his time warp of lies making reads on things THAT DON'T EXIST
At this point it's borderline impossible for Vivax to even be lynched, so you should probably decide between gd and haru instead.
I'm kind of leaning towards gd at this point but I'm not sure.
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Well my vote doesn't matter anymore, and I don't even feel like this is a great lynch.
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