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HaruRH
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On August 04 2014 23:48 justanothertownie wrote: I can see that, thanks. What are you trying to achieve here? What do we gain? You 2 aren't talking about actual things. Neither are we gaining anything from you asking me what my pointless question is trying to achieve Now tell me your scumreads. List them. I'll read them tomorrow when I wake up. | ||
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HaruRH
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Btw, for the meta junkies I have a present for you all: + Show Spoiler + On June 28 2014 01:13 HaruRH wrote: <3 rainbows I do not normally do reads on d1 unless someone ultimately scummy pops out. On July 23 2014 18:42 HaruRH wrote: I have never felt townier. I actually tried to analyse someone with 2 useable posts. Effort. I would call myself a town for doing this. It is almost against my meta to post reads early on. Someone will eventually dig these out and attack me for actually posting reads, so i'm dumping these here now. Btw it took me easily 25 mins to attempt to put 2 quotes from other games here due to how atrocious phone posting is. If you want a read post with substantiation, you'll need to wait. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On August 05 2014 07:10 Eden1892 wrote: aite here's where i am not killing ever: Eden1892 not killing today: marvellosity, Holyflare, kushm4sta, gobbledydook don't want to kill today, but would: Tehpoofter, Vivax, HaruRH indifferent to killing today: goodkarma, WaveofShadow, Artanis, justanothertownie, ObiWanShinobi actively want to kill today: the blankness in the last category is bothering me and probably why i feel scatterbrained atm, i made this list for my benefit and yours, let's work something out there's five people in the "indifferent" category, someone help me pick one Ill do it for you Goodkarma: came out early with tons of aggression, never relented and disappeared conveniently. Wos: bad start with stiff post, continued posting awkwardly that seemed rehearsed. Artanis: using meta reads as a basis of his reads (I really dont agree with doing this). Justanothertownie: I don't really feel much from him except that I don't agree with his scumreads at all. Obiwan: being useless In this game much? I don't see him voting anything meaningful, or doing any moves that included thinking. Overall, obi> wos> gk> artanis> jat in terms of who to lynch. | ||
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HaruRH
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On August 05 2014 07:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Who self-metas themselves as town? Is that even a towny thing to do? Wtf? Exactly. Because some kids can't read. Open your eyes and you will see the light, my boy! | ||
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HaruRH
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On August 05 2014 08:09 Holyflare wrote: Someone read this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=HaruRH Save me from the tunnel plz because in the town games that I've read from haru when he scum hunts it includes quotes and posts and reasons and questions and he tries to find things, all I've seen from him now is generic lists and surface reading all over again and he just echos a lot of things already said Dude wtf you're still twisting my words I already said posting with quotes is paramount to suicide on mobile. Also, I did not spend 25 minutes finding those stuff. I spent less than 3, but the effort of trying to copy and paste the quote using mobile is like trying to swallow a sword Continue riding in the haru tunnel. Many had done so and collapsed in it. Known victims: rainbows, glowingbear | ||
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HaruRH
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On August 05 2014 08:11 Holyflare wrote: he cares more about how he is appearing to others than he does scum hunting (spent 25 minutes digging out these quotes so ppl wont meta him (even though says he doesn't like meta and says he doesn't like artanis using it etc etc) instead of focusing on pointing out things from other ppl) Wtf still twisting my intent and words Look hf, precisely because I hate meta, that's why I don't want people like you to use it as an excuse to give an easy scumpass for something I'm forced to do. I'm stuck in a conumdrum where I have to post reads (promised it for gk) but you metafags will use my other games as an excuse to scumread my reads. So I'm getting these shit out of the way first. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On August 05 2014 08:18 Holyflare wrote: So what the fuck are you trying to prove here hf? That you're a donkey stuck in a tunnel? | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
you're driving too dangerously in haru tunnel If I gave 2 shits about how I looked in this game, I would have already been posting tons of weak ass reads that you want, so to appease your sadness of being unable to read morw surface level reads from me. Meta does work I admit, but I hate using it. So I don't need people to use meta as part of their argument against me. I can't fight that shit because they will twist it to their intent. Oh you know what I mean about the conumdrum. Don't act dumb. | ||
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HaruRH
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On August 05 2014 08:28 Holyflare wrote: I don't want reads i simply want you to do what you've done in other games and point out posts you don't like and question them Then sit down and wait, d1 is still long. I don't like this post of yours, you want me to do these so I can pass your 'town' check, which is forced. | ||
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HaruRH
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Reads: Townville Haru Hes the king of townville. Eden I just don't want to argue with him. Hf His pressure on me with those buttload of accusatiobs make me feel like he is actually scumhunting here. He is trying to solve the game. I won't lynch him today. kush His reads and answers, albeit full of logical loopholes from not reading properly, shows that he is scumhunting too. His recklessness in scumhunting without proper information doesn't feel like what scum would do, since scum would want the proper information out and would reread his arguments over and over in case of slips. Middle earth vivax He defended me against hf's tunnel. However, he isn't posting any conclusive reads till now (ot I'm blind OR it is too explicit). Waiting for his stuff. wos I don't know where to place him tbh. He is xhanging my opinions with every posts of his. Ironically, I feel that his scumread on me was peppered with scummy arguments. However, he promised reads. I won't take a stance on this wildcard until I see his conclusive reads that is outside of me (which me promised). Gk Goodkarma have been doing nothing that is conclusive, outside of calling me town and calling pooft scum. He have only been pressuring people this d1. I expect to see him step up. Marv I dont know how to read him. Scumville Gobble I didn't see him do crap with reads. All of them are wishy washy and inconclusive. No promises either. Pooft Throwing reads everywhere, 0 substantiation. Wolf. Obiwan Literally not committing to any scumreads. All his 'scumreads' are either wishy washy or they are just a throwaway read. Artanis Similar to gobble. This may be omgus but if you take away his 'haru scumread', he have an unreadable filter with nothing except 'this guy town' 'this post scum' etc. Also, no promised reads so I won't get to see him post actual content outside of his (desperate) read on me. | ||
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HaruRH
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Jat I still don't see anything memorable from him. I even forgot him because of how dispensable he is this game. I'll stick him at the bottom of middle earth, but slowly slipping into scumville. | ||
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HaruRH
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On August 05 2014 22:26 marvellosity wrote: can you provide specific examples of this? His scumread on me was retracted almost immediately when kush pointed out that he probably didn't read my filter properly. 'It's a good case, I had raised some of my objections about Haru before, but HF persuaded me that just because I don't agree with him doesn't mean he is scum. I still don't like any of his posts, the logic just isn't there. I could be persuaded to vote Haru.' He is also voting on lurkers. From artanis the non-contributer to pooft the lurking read thrower. Sooner or later when pooft comes on, he will give some lame reads to vote on obi. Then onto the next lurker. No legit proper scumread. | ||
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HaruRH
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On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote: A case on HaruRH: Near the beginning, I had HaruRH as scum because of his terrible logic about mafia acting more towny as usual. Then HF said that I shouldn't be so quick to scumread someone just because I disagree with them and I accepted it. The logic was terrible but it looked like he was trying to make a legit point at least. Here he sheeps on Artanis. The post before the vote he says something really vague that isn't even necessarily correct. Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere. A while later, he posts this gem. Yep, not doing crap with reads, wishy washy and inconclusive, no promises given, throwing reads everywhere, 0 substantiation, not committing to any scumreads...guess who that is. I know, it's the person flinging shit at seven people aka HaruRH. LOL learn to read, gobble. I null read some of the people who had done the same, but the difference was that they promised to step it up later. While the scumreads I have now don't want to promise anything (worried about being committal?) I hope you can reread and give me a reason that makes me look mafia, or else this is omgus level 9000. | ||
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HaruRH
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On August 05 2014 22:39 marvellosity wrote: tbh i could almost lynch Haru for this alone: he's basically scumreading someone on a self-description, it's ludicrous wrong. I'm both scumreading and null reading these people. However, I draw the line between 'promised reads' vs 'never posting reads', which pooft is already stating, gobble is already doing. Also, artanis' s sheepvote is unwarranted. This post ^ above is not saying anything conclusive. Yes, from now on, I'm going full throttle. | ||
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HaruRH
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On August 05 2014 23:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Gobble I think your case is bad in that it doesn't explain why Haru is scum, at least the first part doesn't really matter to me. Scum is more likely to invent a bs reason to vote someone rather than just sheeping. I still think the strongest points are:
Wrong. Your arguments aren't correct too. 1) I did not ask how strong marv's townreads are. I am asking if his townreads will align with anyone, thus achieving his 'everyone playing so townie scum dies' part. 2) I promised list posts. I delivered. I won't bother with anymore of this weak argument. 3) No. Like I said (this will be the very last time im saying this), I don't scumread based on unsubstantiated reads. It is instead based on how much content they are willing to deliver through their different promises. A potential content giver who haven't give shit early d1 (this is expected) is null read by me. But not you guys who deny content from me. 4) seriously? | ||
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HaruRH
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On August 05 2014 23:08 gobbledydook wrote: Adding to this, he seemed over-obsessed on game setup at the beginning. Usually it's the mafias who spend time talking about the game setup and its implications. Since game setup isn't all that important compared to making actual reads, this is scummy because it's a useful way to generate text without it actually being significant. This is still incorrect. Like what both me and kush have said, the differece in game type might have an effect on how scum plays. Normally I would be content with scumreads, but with this vanilla game, I have to consider the option that scums would 100% want to hide in top town over lurking. It is important. Not to you, but to me. Don't use your heuristics on me. | ||
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HaruRH
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On August 05 2014 23:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote: 1) You asked Marv what a strong townread was when this bore no relevance to the question. It was a deflection. 2) You said you don't give weak list posts as town, then you proceeded to give weak list posts. It's a contradiction. 3) Are you seriously saying you let promises influence your decision? Mafia are the king of promises. Townies just deliver when they have the information. 4) Yes. 1) how did you interpret 'Problem is, what constitutes looking really townie? What heuristics do you use to judge?' As what a strong townread was? Deflection from? It bore relevance to how I attempt to read marv. 2) yes and no. I said I dont give reads d1. I did not say I dont give weak list posts. Quote where I said it IN CONTEXT to the previous post I am replying to. 3) Yes. If you decide to give jackshit, you're trying to lurk. 4) no. | ||
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HaruRH
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On August 05 2014 23:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Haru if you think scum would want to hide in top town why are all the people you suspect the people everyone suspects? So you're saying I must 100% throw them in scumreads? Not allowed to park them in null reads until I see anything fishy? | ||
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HaruRH
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On August 05 2014 23:18 marvellosity wrote: but you don't as town and you did in your mafia game Hey guy I prepared a reply for you that hf criticised. Find it in my filter. | ||
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HaruRH
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He defended me against hf's tunnel. However, he isn't posting any conclusive reads till now (ot I'm blind OR it is too explicit). Waiting for his stuff. wos I don't know where to place him tbh. He is xhanging my opinions with every posts of his. Ironically, I feel that his scumread on me was peppered with scummy arguments. However, he promised reads. I won't take a stance on this wildcard until I see his conclusive reads that is outside of me (which me promised). Gk Goodkarma have been doing nothing that is conclusive, outside of calling me town and calling pooft scum. He have only been pressuring people this d1. I expect to see him step up. Any of these null reads can AND will fall into scumread if they aren't going to step up similarly, scumreads can move up if they decide to post something meaningful. 2) gobble's reads, outside of his definite read on artanis early on, have been drifting too much for my liking. If you read his filter in between his artanis and scumread on me, everything is a null read. Furthermore, there was no indication of further content so I put him in scumtown first. | ||
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