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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:03 GMT
#2501
that just makes you stupid though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:03 GMT
#2502
you should be able to read what i wrote and see it makes haru very likely to be town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:06 GMT
#2507
On August 08 2014 08:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Sure it does...
So who is the lynch oh wise man?

i am not saying "you must lynch who i say" (although that is nice), i'm saying you should be able to understand the basic reasoning i've laid out.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:15 GMT
#2515
Ok, so we should lynch Onegu. Here's why.

Firstly Artanis was a whiny little bitch. kush thought Artanis was mafia (yes i know this isn't actually a reason, appeal to authority of n1 kill and all that).

He spent the first 3-4 pages of his filter doing absolutely jack shit. That's exactly the same kinda crap he pulled in I'm a Cop when he was mafia.

He provides almost nothing of substance, and gives up.

The only major contribution he makes is going hard after Haru while I was going hard after Haru. It was completely unnecessary because I was all over Haru's ass already, but Artanis was there arguing as well. It's like that was his only motivation for doing it - he could see something to get stuck into and make posts about, so he did.

Also I've gone off Haru being mafia so that just makes the push look opportunistic (yes, i know associations - I did exactly the same in the hydra game with rayn/slendy vs glowing/haru and i was totally right)

Onegu

Mostly this is all going to be meta. Because meta. Mm, delicious meta. I will show you some games and excerpts.

First of all, Onegu replacing into ## as mafia (database said he was town, he was not, he was mafia)
+ Show Spoiler [Onegu replacing as mafia] +

Onegu replacing as mafia:

On November 01 2013 18:16 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 18:05 OOHCHILD wrote:
who are your scumreads so far onegu?



Koshi, Pandain, and I also dont like marv much. Not sure how everyone was saying he is the most townie person in thread, also he reacted the same way in desert mafia to a midday replacement, he was scum that game.

Mafia reading three townies; 2 of which are very townie (Koshi, marv)

Note language: "I don't like"
On November 01 2013 18:18 Onegu wrote:
Koshi has been sheeping alot and just asking for powerups day one. Really dont like that from him. Also I am more than 30 pages back I cannot add : / Im in the middle of night 1 with nukes flying everywhere.

"really don't like"

Makes a massive, bad case on v townie Koshi
On November 01 2013 22:46 Onegu wrote:
Not sure about marv but you shoveing town reads on him the entire game makes absolutely no sense.

Doubt on townie town leader
On November 01 2013 22:52 Onegu wrote:
Marv, Koshi never give a reason for calling you town. He just says you are confirmed and I have no idea why he would do that as town, you are most likely the best player in this game as either alignment, there is no way you can be confirmed town with no reason.

etc

Onegu replacing as town:
+ Show Spoiler [Onegu replacing as town] +

Onegu replacing as town:

On July 15 2013 09:37 Onegu wrote:
The first thing I want to say while rereading as I have somewhat followed the thread is reguarding hurricanes first post.

You guys gave him way to much town cred for that post. It was basic info that would have been discussed and talked about no matter what. And hzflank saying something about him being towny bececause he was coaching? Look what I did day 1 last game with alakaslam. In no way should he get any town cred for this at all and should be looked at closely, we already know he is a solid player.

Still reading...

Comes out with a specific reason why he did not like a post, and explains it.
On July 15 2013 10:13 Onegu wrote:
Sorry hope you guus dont mind if I post as I go, some of it may have been addressed already but I want to give my take like it just happend.

I would have been all over the stim lynch. I really want to lynch all liars.

Then hurricane says

Show nested quote +
Immediately, the first thing I thought of was that there is no way in hell the scum QT would let him continue ranting and raving like this. They would have told him immediately to chill out and claim he was joking too, or something. Bolding because this is the first real revelation I've had on this case.


There is no way you can know this my first game sometimes I would ask a question and not get a reponse for hours, so there is no way you should ever make this assumption.

Decisive, none of this "i don't like"
On July 15 2013 10:17 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 10:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Just got here, 'sup Umasi, 'Sup Onegu? Seems I'll be joining the latter in reading up...


You better make scum reads this game or I am 4rlz comeing after you.

On July 15 2013 10:45 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 10:38 Umasi wrote:
On July 15 2013 10:29 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 13 2013 16:51 Umasi wrote:
you are right, I may have been confirmation biasing my way through that, but,,,,,,,eh,,,,,,eh,,,.....like
dunno.
mafias hard, that's why I didn't want to play t.t
and then alakaslam got me to play
and
then
BAILED



that was irrelevant ignore it all haha


Ah shit Umasi

At least I'm here now, right :D...

....Right? ... :s


no hard feelings, now come mire in the muck of my mediocre mafia play


Totally just claimed mafia. Tunnel mode initiated!

On July 15 2013 11:08 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 04:14 Koshi wrote:
I would sheep. I have no targets that need to get lynched now.


Hate this post so much

"hate this post so much" vs "i don't like this, i don't like marv, i don't like koshi"
On July 15 2013 13:04 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 05:14 Superfluous wrote:
Admittedly I am giving reads more to get off my back than to help us. I'm trying to get reads, but nothing is super strong so I'm not going to jump to lynch someone. I would vote for xzavier right now because he's my strongest read, but thats because we have to vote not because I feel he's 100% scum It really hurts us to lynch town day one, which is the same reason I brought up the idea of no lynching, and the same reason I'm trying to relieve pressure from myself.

That said ##Vote Xzavier Because I'm going to a concert tonight and may be up late/ sleep in so I don't want to forget to vote.


Bad town not scum

making townreads decisively, not wishy washy mafia reads
joking about a bit.

Onegu's typical townplay:
+ Show Spoiler [Typical Town Onegu] +

Town in Time To Die:

On November 15 2013 21:19 Onegu wrote:
Hello fellow team liquidians. Sorry I have been busy for the day. Im am also going to run for mayor.

First if I am elected I will not listen to anyone as they may corrupt my thoughts, and you dont want a corrupt mayor.

Second I will not shoot at scum with my day one lynch, I will find and kill 3p, this gets rid of two people that do not have pro town ideals, instead of just one.

With this in mind it is obvious I am the best choice for mayor.


UNCORRUPTABLE FOR LXIII

PS from this game on I will put sorry in every first post every game.

PPS Yes Im serious

Jokey but also not jokey mayor post.
On November 15 2013 23:48 Onegu wrote:
Ok Im on page 31 had to play with my son in between reading. First impressions of things that have so far stuck out to me.


I miss the old alakaslam :/ he just like a regular player now... Maybe thats a good thing. The whole VE thing I dont have good grip on the situation but I think people are overblowing his thoughts. Supersoft is who I am more concerned with while reading. I have been paying attention to rayns posts and nothing is sticking out as scum to me, but that was the same day one in witchcraft, I then saw something day two and his responses are what made me jump on him that game. Yamato is looking fairly townie at the moment. I was ok ish with HF mayor post, seeing it was prewritten makes me feel nothing one way or the other. Still reading if I see anything else I will respond. Again I go by feel with my reads.

Chit chatting about Slam, doesn't get VE, ok with rayn and explains why, also a TOWNREAD on yam (seems to be absent in his mafiagames...), ok with HF

On November 16 2013 00:05 Onegu wrote:
Oh and slam is town, unless while he was gone he was playing on another site. I dont see a scum slam comeing in here and being all legible and open like he is. Second I dont like grack and his defense of storrzerg. First storrzerg doesnt need it and the way grack is doing it saying he is just out of newbie games is giving off warning bells to me.

townread with explanation
On November 16 2013 00:27 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 19:11 OOHCHILD wrote:
The question was What makes rayne scummy imo?

For me it's mostly it's that his tone fits with his scum meta. It's aggressive and mean.
His town play from what I've seen is also very characteristic and I'm not seeing it here.

Last game I played he was scum. He also did the very quick reads without reason thing he did this game "ve is town, oats is dumb"
Yea I'm on my phone and I can't quote.

He said he was ignoring risen. I don't see town rayne doing that. Town rayne is constantly struggling to figure out everyone's alignments.



First off I disagree with this, a town and scum rayn both are this way, check out persona 4 mafia and rayns attack on WoS D1, he was town that game. The biggest dif imo for scum and town rayn is you can normally tell is rayn believes his case or not. You have to look at that, once he starts to tunnel onto someone you have to ask him questions and call him out and you should be able to get a read on him. I was thinking about why I started to tunnel him so hard in witchcraft and I figured out this was the reason. Also he isnt quite as active as scum, but this isnt as accurate.

well explained reasoning
On November 16 2013 01:33 Onegu wrote:
Also

UNCORRUPTABLE FOR MAYOR LXIII

jokey mayor

Onegu's last mafia game in PYP:
+ Show Spoiler [yes] +

ok I got really lazy here but here's the link: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/436086-pyp-league-of-legends-mafia?user=Onegu

Long and short of it is the same as his typical mafia play and the differences with his townplay - very little to no townreads, no explanations of why he's town or neutral on people, no jokes, only bad mafia reads


##Vote: Onegu
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:17 GMT
#2516
btw I have a higher certainty rating on this one than any of my other scumreads this whole game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:17 GMT
#2517
I should have compared his meta to this game, but I hope that's kinda obvious what I'm getting at.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:20 GMT
#2521
am I the only one who doesn't care about the belt? I just want to win
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:22 GMT
#2523
the tldr of Onegu's play this game is:

he is doing exactly what he did in the other game he replaced as mafia. He comes in and starts giving out weak scumreads on the fly, on prominent players (me, hf) compared to (koshi, marv) in the previous game as mafia. There's no joking about or lightheartedness at all, he only does scumreads and not townreads, which he always gives and explains as town.

In short he's playing exactly to his mafia meta and nothing like his town meta.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:23 GMT
#2525
On August 08 2014 08:22 justanothertownie wrote:
And poofter if you really think so this makes your play even shadier.

hahahahaha yes. owned.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:26 GMT
#2528
On August 08 2014 08:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Nice vote distribution...

says the guy not bothering to vote.

anyway we should lynch onegu.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:27 GMT
#2529
best case in the thread by miles, except for all the ones that kush made on probably multiple mafia, but he's dead.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:27 GMT
#2531
yes, yes you do.

you're very good at complaining.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:28 GMT
#2534
yes, many degrees more certain than anything on vivax/haru d1.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:28 GMT
#2537
btw I have a 100% success rate lynching Onegu on day 2 when he has replaced.

Statistically, this lynch is a sure thing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:31 GMT
#2540
On August 08 2014 08:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Probably as reliable a statistic as BHs random lynch.

BH's random lynch has hit 0 mafia

I have hit 100% mafia on day 2 onegu replacing
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:31 GMT
#2541
let's not bother with the trifling detail that i have a sample of 1.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:32 GMT
#2544
On August 08 2014 08:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 08:28 marvellosity wrote:
btw I have a 100% success rate lynching Onegu on day 2 when he has replaced.

Statistically, this lynch is a sure thing.

Is this true? Cause I think it's well known that I've fucked up onegu reads about a billion times
Also can't read the spoilers on your onegu ca right now

you should read the spoilers when you can, but the tldr is the 3rd post of the last page.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:33 GMT
#2548
how does eden still have a longer filter than me

wtf
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:35 GMT
#2552
On August 08 2014 08:33 Holyflare wrote:
I mean like you went to all that effort when all you really had to do was point out that he's not doing anything and voted his null read over his mafia read? :p

i went into tryhard-need-to-solve-this-game-and-stop-being-terrible mode.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 23:37 GMT
#2554
as an aside, i think gobble also has quite a good chance of being mafia.

just not onegu-level right now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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