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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 23:07 GMT
#4116
There are definitely some lessons to learn from this game.
I dunno waht they are offhand though lol

wow obs qt was also spectacularly wrong. Did we actually play that well? 'Cause I honestly didn't think so.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 23:10 GMT
#4127
On August 13 2014 08:08 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 08:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
There are definitely some lessons to learn from this game.
I dunno waht they are offhand though lol

wow obs qt was also spectacularly wrong. Did we actually play that well? 'Cause I honestly didn't think so.

i thought you picked it up quite well the last 2 cycles

Yeah I guess once we had to we did. Oh well I will be satisfied with two belt assists.
This deadline is absolutely brutal for me though. I can;t play any more games with an evening deadline like this.

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 23:12 GMT
#4130
On August 13 2014 08:10 Holyflare wrote:
man my wave meta was on point!

No, marv's was on point. Yours was still sorta wrong, I did that shit ALL the time as town, it just so happen you have a very recent mafia game to look at. And again, I still absolutely love playing scum.
I gotta find that marv post.
Scared the shit out of me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 23:13 GMT
#4133
On August 13 2014 08:11 goodkarma wrote:
And GG to scum. Wave played especially well.

Literally just posting more than some townies and maintaining some semblance of activity is enough to win games like this. Sad but true.

GK I'm sorry.
I took advantage of your ragey meta a little. I was simultaneously hoping you would and wouldn't rage out

Also Onegu
<3
Your messages to me before you got lynched broke my heart a little
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 23:14 GMT
#4137
On August 13 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 08:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 13 2014 08:10 Holyflare wrote:
man my wave meta was on point!

No, marv's was on point. Yours was still sorta wrong, I did that shit ALL the time as town, it just so happen you have a very recent mafia game to look at. And again, I still absolutely love playing scum.
I gotta find that marv post.
Scared the shit out of me.


no i looked at the past 10 of your games and none of them said the same thing that you did here in the way that you said it

eh, I'll go back and look myself late when I have the time.
It's entirely possible the way the post was constructed was exactly like that in which case whoops, but I know I complain when rolling town all the time.
LOL at one point I almost EXACTLY copied a post-death post from another game.
If I had posted it and anybody found it I would have been lynched in a hardbeat
meta is real
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 23:15 GMT
#4140
On August 13 2014 08:14 Holyflare wrote:
nk'ing me was the best call

Of course it was.
NKing marv when we did was too because he would have caught on.
I have no idea who we would have NKed tonight though
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 23:16 GMT
#4144
On August 13 2014 08:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 08:14 Holyflare wrote:
nk'ing me was the best call

Yes it was. I would not dare to post like I did in LYLO if you are alive. Your day1 was scary too you immediately called out Wave AND Haru.

Yeah we shat ourselves a little
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 23:26 GMT
#4166
Now I want to play another game
I HAVE A TASTE OF VICTORY but bad deadlines
Artanis change the deadline time of Cell, k?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 23:28 GMT
#4169
On August 04 2014 20:37 marvellosity wrote:
Wave's feels are always wrong. Or he's mafia.

This.
Shat myself.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 23:31 GMT
#4171
On August 13 2014 08:30 Eden1892 wrote:
Next time Haru!

Man I'm not even kidding, at the apex of my brief mad at Wave earlier I thought to myself "what if he's talking about how easy this is because he and Haru are scumbuddies and he thinks he can save his partner and avoid a bus?"

and my next thought was "no Simon that's fucking retarded what are you even thinking stop tinfoiling"

Well me and JAT basically made sure to stay completely add odds all game so I had to try to push somewhere so JAT could pull somewhere else.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 23:34 GMT
#4174
LOL I was even telling you guys that scum do this
I actually dropped so many hints I cant remember where they all are
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 23:37 GMT
#4175
I have to say I think everybody in this game was a pleasure to play with. I wonder if I would not have thought so as town lol

KUSH WE KILLED YOU FIRST
/respect
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 13 2014 00:01 GMT
#4180
On August 13 2014 08:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 08:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
LOL I was even telling you guys that scum do this
I actually dropped so many hints I cant remember where they all are

Well, you told marv you would keep not fear killing him. You told someone that we don't need help deciding the nightkill....
:D

Reading the obs warms my soul.

lol thats cheating you knew about those
and yeah i cant believe we fooled basically everyone
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 13 2014 17:09 GMT
#4192
On August 14 2014 01:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 23:34 Eden1892 wrote:
So what did I need to do differently/better this game? I have my list but I want external feedback. My list:
• Post less. I'm always gonna be an active poster but there wasn't any need or use for that many. Diminishing returns are real, I lost/forgot/changed my mind a bunch without explaining my reasoning and it's because I posted too much and overloaded myself. Literally gave myself long-term memory loss this game lmao
• Push more. It's my town game bottom line. This stems from the previous point; I couldn't keep up with my own thought process and that made it impossible to push my reads. I sheeped way too much because I couldn't keep up with myself.
• Trust instincts more! They mostly failed me at LYLO but I feel like if I'd listened to myself more before then and pushed then we wouldn't be in LYLO.


I don't think you need to push more that's for sure You pushed nothing but me over and over again and it made it hard to kind of get on track to do other things just to disprove every bit of confirmation bias, I mean the best way to look at it is to see who is pushing things that make sense and knows what's going on in the game and who is sitting back and posting things that make no sense whatsoever: i.e. Wave when he returned calling me out for sheeping (when i didn't) and haru pushing gobble with nothing scummy in his push etc.

I dunno, it just comes from experience I guess because at lylo the entire scum team suddenly had massive amounts of free time on a weekday when they've been "busy" the whole game and started pushing a massive agenda to get one player lynched instead of looking analytically at everyone.

I was actually busy for the record, I just managed to get time off for LYLO
Also my cases against you were SO BAD I didn't even read the friggin thread when I posted that first one about you sheeping, then I had to go back and try to make it make at least some sense....good lord

marv I am disappoint. I think that's three times I've beaten you :D
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 13 2014 17:25 GMT
#4194
Yeah you were. I kept expecting you to completely tear me up and you never did.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 13 2014 19:32 GMT
#4198
On August 14 2014 03:16 Eden1892 wrote:
@Hf I think if I push other leads more I escape the tunnel on you. "Push more" means "push more leads" not "push my one lead harder" lol. I agree that I pushed you way too hard and pushing you further would be worse.

@everyone: Is "kill people who don't try at LYLO" a good heuristic? Because I feel like rationally it is but empirically it may not be. I spelled out the logic in the thread and I think it holds, but obviously it was a flop this game and idk if it's a flop more generally

The thing is, a great deal of the time 'rationally' doesn't apply here.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 13 2014 20:12 GMT
#4204
On August 14 2014 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
People who do not play in LYLO should be mafia and therefore should be lynched.
When you have absolutely no room for error everyone should do their best to help their team. If they do not play - they are not helping town.

So yes Eden, your heuristic is imo correct and should be applied to LYLO situations because even if you sometimes go wrong knowing that not playing gets you lynched (really? lol ^^) maybe makes people want to try a bit more to not lose the game.

VERY wishful thinking Rayn. you know hwo games here go a lot of the time.

Speaking specifically about this game, many people were doing their best to help their team. Specifically, my team tried really hard. We had to be around and helping out to ensure one of our selected lynches would go through. Not playing is not a good heuristic imo.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 13 2014 20:13 GMT
#4205
On August 14 2014 05:10 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 02:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 14 2014 01:39 Holyflare wrote:
On August 13 2014 23:34 Eden1892 wrote:
So what did I need to do differently/better this game? I have my list but I want external feedback. My list:
• Post less. I'm always gonna be an active poster but there wasn't any need or use for that many. Diminishing returns are real, I lost/forgot/changed my mind a bunch without explaining my reasoning and it's because I posted too much and overloaded myself. Literally gave myself long-term memory loss this game lmao
• Push more. It's my town game bottom line. This stems from the previous point; I couldn't keep up with my own thought process and that made it impossible to push my reads. I sheeped way too much because I couldn't keep up with myself.
• Trust instincts more! They mostly failed me at LYLO but I feel like if I'd listened to myself more before then and pushed then we wouldn't be in LYLO.


I don't think you need to push more that's for sure You pushed nothing but me over and over again and it made it hard to kind of get on track to do other things just to disprove every bit of confirmation bias, I mean the best way to look at it is to see who is pushing things that make sense and knows what's going on in the game and who is sitting back and posting things that make no sense whatsoever: i.e. Wave when he returned calling me out for sheeping (when i didn't) and haru pushing gobble with nothing scummy in his push etc.

I dunno, it just comes from experience I guess because at lylo the entire scum team suddenly had massive amounts of free time on a weekday when they've been "busy" the whole game and started pushing a massive agenda to get one player lynched instead of looking analytically at everyone.

I was actually busy for the record, I just managed to get time off for LYLO
Also my cases against you were SO BAD I didn't even read the friggin thread when I posted that first one about you sheeping, then I had to go back and try to make it make at least some sense....good lord

marv I am disappoint. I think that's three times I've beaten you :D

Yes

the little things - like moving off Haru on day 1 because Vivax pissed me off. It was so close to being different.

And i listened to kush too much. actually i do respect his opinions but i had both gobbledy and holyflare as town early d1 and got swayed off those reads.

You gotta stop going so YOLO, though I gotta say for the most part when you pull those kinds of lynches they go pretty well.
I was pleasantly surprised at kush's play. he did really well and was crazy towny, but utterly and completely wrong about like EVERYTHING. Worked out really nicely for us
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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