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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:20 GMT
#4021
On August 13 2014 07:09 Eden1892 wrote:
Obi give your reads and explain them in... I dunno, 3 sentences or less for each.


Eden: Town. The only time I doubted this was earlier today, when I thought I had something on one of your reads. I think it's kind of silly that you change your reads so frequently for poor reasoning, but your current hyper flexibility is going to be the death of us. I just find it really hard to believe that a scum can have 33 pages of content and have all of these arguments about the game state while keeping their story straight the entire time. Not a great heuristic, I know, but I'm standing by it at this point.

Wave: Town. Showing doubt in all the right places and desperately trying to understand what's going on. There's no reason for him to stick his neck out while a bunch of people are voting me for "being a dick" when this lynch is borderline set in stone anyway.

GD: Scum. Extremely flimsy pretenses for votes "yeah he's being a dick let's vote him" and clearly doesn't care who we lynch. "Yeah ok" is not an acceptable answer at lylo, of all things.

Haru: Null. Hasn't done much, kind of like me I guess. The only thing I see him doing right now is voting me because I want to lynch into a pool of 4 people.

Goodkarma: Null. Had an extremely bad voteswitch from you to Haru and that makes me nervous. I can't really remember him doing anything today which also makes me nervous, but I can't tell if it's because he's genuinely apathetic or because Haru and I are two towns fighting.

Jat: Fucking scum. I don't know why anyone is listening to this guy because he clearly doesn't give a shit about trying to figure out alignments. He posted some really bad analysis based on votes and unflipped associations that you, yourself, already pressured me on. I gave you reasoning on this, and he just turned around and rehashed it and can't elaborate on why I'm scum without saying "go reread his whole filter right now, one hour from deadline because I never bothered to do it lol."

I think I covered my reads right now. I'd much rather lynch Jat today before everyone else, but I think that's it.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:22 GMT
#4024
On August 13 2014 07:10 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright unless I'm getting played hella bad and 2/3 of my town reads are scum AND Haru and Obi are somehow both town as a consequence, the quick switch to Obi proves the mafia is busing without a doubt.


*Extremely flimsy vote switching.
*Mass voteswitches.
*Zero resistance to any of the switches.

Yep. Definitely both mafia. 10/10 ggnore
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:23 GMT
#4026
That's it. I'm switching to Jat and I'm not unvoting. If you're town, you'll sheep me and be done with it.

The lynch is now between me and Jat and fuck everyone else that thinks otherwise.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:26 GMT
#4034
On August 13 2014 07:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 07:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:10 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright unless I'm getting played hella bad and 2/3 of my town reads are scum AND Haru and Obi are somehow both town as a consequence, the quick switch to Obi proves the mafia is busing without a doubt.


*Extremely flimsy vote switching.
*Mass voteswitches.
*Zero resistance to any of the switches.

Yep. Definitely both mafia. 10/10 ggnore

See the problem with what you're insinuating here is that mafia wouldn't bus and would try to resist.
Do you know how difficult it is not to bus at LYLO as scum? Especially if you don't want to implicate yourself to survive to try to win on later days.


It doesn't matter because of how unlikely it is that the wagon switched to me for poor reasoning.

Unless you believe being a dick is a scumtell. Which worked out so well on day 1.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:27 GMT
#4037
On August 13 2014 07:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 07:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:09 Eden1892 wrote:
Obi give your reads and explain them in... I dunno, 3 sentences or less for each.


Eden: Town. The only time I doubted this was earlier today, when I thought I had something on one of your reads. I think it's kind of silly that you change your reads so frequently for poor reasoning, but your current hyper flexibility is going to be the death of us. I just find it really hard to believe that a scum can have 33 pages of content and have all of these arguments about the game state while keeping their story straight the entire time. Not a great heuristic, I know, but I'm standing by it at this point.

Wave: Town. Showing doubt in all the right places and desperately trying to understand what's going on. There's no reason for him to stick his neck out while a bunch of people are voting me for "being a dick" when this lynch is borderline set in stone anyway.

GD: Scum. Extremely flimsy pretenses for votes "yeah he's being a dick let's vote him" and clearly doesn't care who we lynch. "Yeah ok" is not an acceptable answer at lylo, of all things.

Haru: Null. Hasn't done much, kind of like me I guess. The only thing I see him doing right now is voting me because I want to lynch into a pool of 4 people.

Goodkarma: Null. Had an extremely bad voteswitch from you to Haru and that makes me nervous. I can't really remember him doing anything today which also makes me nervous, but I can't tell if it's because he's genuinely apathetic or because Haru and I are two towns fighting.

Jat: Fucking scum. I don't know why anyone is listening to this guy because he clearly doesn't give a shit about trying to figure out alignments. He posted some really bad analysis based on votes and unflipped associations that you, yourself, already pressured me on. I gave you reasoning on this, and he just turned around and rehashed it and can't elaborate on why I'm scum without saying "go reread his whole filter right now, one hour from deadline because I never bothered to do it lol."

I think I covered my reads right now. I'd much rather lynch Jat today before everyone else, but I think that's it.

Eden = town but Obi still voted him earlier.
gk and Haru both NULL. ROFL.

imo the wrose thing about this is he somehow decided the reasoning for Eden to be town NOW when nothing has changed since the time he was voting him.

Hmm. Things might actually be looking good.


Uhm. Did you miss the back-and-forth that Eden and I had when I went after him?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:28 GMT
#4038
On August 13 2014 07:26 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 07:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That's it. I'm switching to Jat and I'm not unvoting. If you're town, you'll sheep me and be done with it.

The lynch is now between me and Jat and fuck everyone else that thinks otherwise.

[image loading]


If you mislynch me here I am never going to forgive you. Ever.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:31 GMT
#4040
On August 13 2014 07:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
No I didn't, but the reasons you stated could have applied yesterday or the day before.


...So?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:33 GMT
#4042
On August 13 2014 07:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 07:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
No I didn't, but the reasons you stated could have applied yesterday or the day before.


...So?

So the point is everything you supposedly suspected Eden for is completely moot because of stuff you could have figured out before you even started suspecting him.


Idgi.

Like I thought I had something when he scumread me all of a sudden, but then I realized that it was a stretch and I was nitpicking.

I don't understand how reading him as town now for things I could've read him as town for before makes anything different at all.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:34 GMT
#4043
JAT, WHERE ARE YOUR QUOTES? WHERE WAS I SCUMMY?

I'M STILL WAITING BRO.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:36 GMT
#4048
On August 13 2014 07:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 06:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 05 2014 06:12 justanothertownie wrote:
If Order is anything to go by then it points towards town haru if he is annoying but tbh. he is far from the level of annoying he was in that game thus far.


He wasn't annoying in Titanic either and he was town.

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On August 05 2014 06:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also I don't remember Haru being annoying in Order, so you might have to walk me through that one.

Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 06:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also, I'm pretty sure Haru wasn't actually annoying in Order. I think that mostly stemmed from him not knowing how to react properly to the accusations being flung at him. Maybe it's just because I'm interpreting his play differently from you. I just don't see it.

This is Obis early defense of Haru. Anyone can look at Harus filter from there and I dare you to tell me that he wasn't annoying.

He then went on to scumread him when Haru really got pressure from all sides:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 03:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm still down to kill Haru, because I think self-metaing yourself as town is bullshit/scummy.

But when push came to shove he didn't want to kill him - he wanted to kill gobble:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 06:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I remember Haru had me as scum for similar reasons in Titanic.

Like I know his day 1 shit is incredibly asinine sometimes and it's the only thing stopping me from hammering him right now.

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 07:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 06 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 06 2014 07:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Well my vote doesn't matter anymore, and I don't even feel like this is a great lynch.

Do you have a better one?


I feel like gd would better. I took a look at what kush was saying and saw merit to it and how GD operates as scum.

I feel like this Haru lynch is just us lynching Haru for being Haru. I know he said some idiotic things but idk, it feels like he's playing his towngame like he always does.

After the Vivax lynch he hardly even mentions Haru the whole game until today.
Also there is still this gem:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 07:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 06 2014 07:35 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax ignores everything and then questions why wos isn't here instead?? Wtf?


This is concerning.

So he seems to be suspicious of Vivax himself right? Didn't stop him from shitting on the lynch hardcore (probably because he knows we just failed lynching his buddy Haru) and promising us Vivax is town when the wagon couldn't be stopped anymore.

This guy is SCUM.


Eden already made this case and I debunked it. You would've known this if you looked at my filter.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:37 GMT
#4049
On August 13 2014 07:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 07:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
No I didn't, but the reasons you stated could have applied yesterday or the day before.


...So?

So the point is everything you supposedly suspected Eden for is completely moot because of stuff you could have figured out before you even started suspecting him.


Idgi.

Like I thought I had something when he scumread me all of a sudden, but then I realized that it was a stretch and I was nitpicking.

I don't understand how reading him as town now for things I could've read him as town for before makes anything different at all.

Because it's a very obvious 'realization' that you should have had knowledge of before. It would be one thing if something Eden did during that time opened your eyes, but the way you did it looks like scum backing down because he realized it wasn't going anywhere.


Fucking what. He changed his read entirely in the span of a page and you think that I'm supposed to be totally okay with that?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:38 GMT
#4051
On August 13 2014 07:34 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright yeah we can probably wrap this up now imo. Obi/Haru/gk scumteam is almost a certainty in my mind right now. If any of my townreads played me then gg enjoy the belt but I'm feeling like this is a lock.


FUCKING WHY

DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THE ENTIRE SCUMTEAM IS BUSSING ME RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT'S SO UNBELIEVABLY UNLIKELY.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:39 GMT
#4057
On August 13 2014 07:38 Eden1892 wrote:
that is not correct, I more or less made this case but you certainly did not debunk it.

what actually happened is that obi said unconvincing things about it and then marv loudly said "we are not lynching obi" and I shut up and sheeped against my better judgment


Well then we've already lost. I debunked it and you were totally okay with it, but now you're turning around and coming after me for something that you were already okay with and that someone else just rehashed.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:43 GMT
#4059
On August 13 2014 07:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 07:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:34 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright yeah we can probably wrap this up now imo. Obi/Haru/gk scumteam is almost a certainty in my mind right now. If any of my townreads played me then gg enjoy the belt but I'm feeling like this is a lock.


FUCKING WHY

DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THE ENTIRE SCUMTEAM IS BUSSING ME RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT'S SO UNBELIEVABLY UNLIKELY.

You had no problem believing the entire scumteam would bus Haru.


I said we had to lynch Haru because he wasn't voting, so even if he was town we wouldn't have enough votes to hit scum regardless.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:50 GMT
#4065
On August 13 2014 07:45 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 07:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:34 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright yeah we can probably wrap this up now imo. Obi/Haru/gk scumteam is almost a certainty in my mind right now. If any of my townreads played me then gg enjoy the belt but I'm feeling like this is a lock.


FUCKING WHY

DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THE ENTIRE SCUMTEAM IS BUSSING ME RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT'S SO UNBELIEVABLY UNLIKELY.

You had no problem believing the entire scumteam would bus Haru.


I said we had to lynch Haru because he wasn't voting, so even if he was town we wouldn't have enough votes to hit scum regardless.


SO YOURE TOWNREADING ME, BUT YOU VOTED ME ANYWAY BECAUSE OF SOME SHITTY REASON LIKE THAT?

100000000% SCUM MOVE


No, I thought you were scum. My reasoning was that even if you were town, that you were the best lynch regardless because we wouldn't be able to hit scum either way because you weren't voting. I honestly can't even tell anymore because I don't understand your logic about not wanting to lynch in a pool of 4 people I'm unsure about in a game with 3 scum. I can't tell who I think the scum is between you and GK anymore.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:51 GMT
#4066
Yeah, I'm going to the gym.

Jat even agreed with my reasoning on Haru earlier and now he's using it to scumread me, but everyone thinks it's totally okay. 10/10.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:51 GMT
#4068
I'm not moving my vote either.

Also, I was town.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 23:02 GMT
#4092
Fucking idiots.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 14 2014 03:45 GMT
#4214
On August 14 2014 05:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 05:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EDIT: I mean, i don't even know what happened in this game, but i assumed someone got lynched in LYLO because they didn't put effort to the game.

Something like that, yeah. ^^


Not at all what happened.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 14 2014 03:47 GMT
#4215
Seriously, fuck anyone that says I wasn't doing anything this game.

When I did stuff, all of you shitheads ignored me and called me dumb/useless. And then I wound up being 100% right and all of you worthless tryhards posting 50 bajillion pages of useless bullshit are still shitting on me even though you were all fucking wrong and refused to listen when I told you why you were wrong.

BUT A FOR EFFORT GOOD JOB TEAM. LETS ALL TAKE HOME A FUCKING PARTICIPATION TROPHY. GOOD JOB.
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