• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:02
CET 07:02
KST 15:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)8Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns6[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026 OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I would like to say something about StarCraft BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Mechabellum Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1794 users

World Heavyweight Championship mafia III - Page 13

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 Next All
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 05:20 GMT
#3820
On August 12 2014 14:20 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 14:14 Eden1892 wrote:
What are my current scum reads Cav? What's my rationale and how did I make them up?

I think we just solved the game. obi haru gk scumteam gogo


I'm still baffled as to how we lynched Vivax over you.

You should have fucking died day 1.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 05:50 GMT
#3823
On August 12 2014 14:42 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 14:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't even care about all of your scumreads. I care about your scumread on me.

You came to the decision that I would be your ride-or-die townread if I carried out my reread, but then immediately turned around and read me as scum because I wasn't trying hard enough.

You don't have any actual reasons for the things that you're saying. The progression of your reads don't actually make sense, especially when you turn around and call your top town mafia for the exact reasons you were planning to read them as town.

I told you that in the hopes you would actually give a coherent set of reads that show you have a rational progressive view of the game state. I've already pretty clearly demonstrated since the Poofter flip where my mind is at, and while I obviously wasn't correct on all of it, you can't sensibly argue that I haven't been open in my thought process and demonstrated clarity of argument and direction.

And hold the phone, bullshitter, you said this:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 14:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you just made up reasons for your scumreads.

##vote eden

You can't backtrack from this shit. You said I made up reasons for my scumreads. You are pointedly not demonstrating how any of them are made up.

I've repeatedly asked you your view on goodkarma. You consistently ignore my questions.

You're completely full of shit and your team is colossally fucking up LYLO


I just told you how you made them up. You were planning on reading me as town and then immediately read me as mafia for the reasons you were planning to read me as town. You made up reasons.

And I don't understand how my goodkarma read has anything to do with anything at all.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 06:13 GMT
#3826
On August 12 2014 10:20 Eden1892 wrote:Problem is that leaves me with too many options still. goodkarma is one. ObiWanShinobi and HaruRH are two others who fit the bill, they drop in sporadically and then peace out and I don't really see where their picture of the game state is evolving much.


I feel good about JAT and Wave right now, Obi too but a little less so than them. I trust if Obi does what he says then I can probably feel comfy townreading him and ride-or-die from there.


Eh, now that I post it I don't feel confident anymore because it feels like a stretch.

I'm probably just going to finish my reread and move on.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 06:23 GMT
#3829
On August 12 2014 15:19 Eden1892 wrote:
Yeah I'm completely with you. I need Wave and JAT to check back in and catch everything (especially JAT) and we can figure it out from there. Gotta get on the same page first.

I think I want Haru first to make goodkarma switch like anybody who's really sheeping Holyflare should do. If there's anybody I feel like I could be wrong about it's goodkarma, because there's an appreciable chance that he really is just completely-mailed-it-in town instead of scum (whereas I really don't see any way Haru and Obi are town at this point). I feel like Haru is probably the highest-% play we have since he's the only one that none of the four of us have any reservations about.


I can see posting any big posts is enough to sway you into thinking someone is town.

I'm just going to go back to not giving a fuck then.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 06:24 GMT
#3830
On August 12 2014 15:19 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 15:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 12 2014 10:20 Eden1892 wrote:Problem is that leaves me with too many options still. goodkarma is one. ObiWanShinobi and HaruRH are two others who fit the bill, they drop in sporadically and then peace out and I don't really see where their picture of the game state is evolving much.


I feel good about JAT and Wave right now, Obi too but a little less so than them. I trust if Obi does what he says then I can probably feel comfy townreading him and ride-or-die from there.


Eh, now that I post it I don't feel confident anymore because it feels like a stretch.

I'm probably just going to finish my reread and move on.

Busted


Uh, not really?

lol wtf.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 06:25 GMT
#3832
That's not how this game works.

Honestly, you're so dumb.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 06:28 GMT
#3835
On August 12 2014 15:26 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 15:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 12 2014 15:19 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 12 2014 15:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 12 2014 10:20 Eden1892 wrote:Problem is that leaves me with too many options still. goodkarma is one. ObiWanShinobi and HaruRH are two others who fit the bill, they drop in sporadically and then peace out and I don't really see where their picture of the game state is evolving much.


I feel good about JAT and Wave right now, Obi too but a little less so than them. I trust if Obi does what he says then I can probably feel comfy townreading him and ride-or-die from there.


Eh, now that I post it I don't feel confident anymore because it feels like a stretch.

I'm probably just going to finish my reread and move on.

Busted


Uh, not really?

lol wtf.

"ABUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH YOU'RE MAKING UP YOUR READS"

"what reads am i making up cav"

"ABUUUUUUUUH YOUR READ ON ME"

"where am i making up a read on you cav"

"uhhhhhhhhhh my bad lol ##STEALTHUNVOTE"


I stand by the fact that you turned around and scumread me for next to no reason after you were so willing to declare that I was your ride-or-die townread.

The fact that my scumread was wrong doesn't really make what you're doing any better.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 06:50 GMT
#3837
Oh for fuck's sake.

How are any of us slipping?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 07:14 GMT
#3839
I still think we should kill Jat for posting dumb shit.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 07:18 GMT
#3842
I already told you why I wanted to lynch him during the night sequence. Nothing changed and I still want to kill his ass.

Also, this will be the only time I stick around for deadline. Be aware that I'm town and we're going to need to come to a consensus or something.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 07:27 GMT
#3845
I did.

Doesn't make what he posted any less stupid.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 07:30 GMT
#3847
Jat is being intentionally stupid, though.

Who fucking pushes defensiveness as a scumtell? Besides newbies and guys looking for easy mislynches? I refuse to believe Jat is that bad unintentionally.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 07:42 GMT
#3849
You're probably looking into it way too much.

Wharvez. I'll argue about it in the morning/afternoon.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 16:42 GMT
#3886
Hello.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 16:43 GMT
#3887
On August 13 2014 00:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Wave are you down with the Eden/Wave/Gobble/JAT NWO?

Please say yes so I can go shamelessly apeshit with joy over solving this enigma of a game


Can we stop townreading Jat though?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 17:48 GMT
#3889
Not really noncommital. I want to know why people are townreading hat because he really doesn't deserve it.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 17:48 GMT
#3890
Jat. Kindle fire autocorrects are annoying.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 17:59 GMT
#3892
I voted.

Voting on kindle is a pain.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 18:41 GMT
#3902
On August 13 2014 03:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 02:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Not really noncommital. I want to know why people are townreading hat because he really doesn't deserve it.

Yes, I do. And that you are just lazily complaining about townread on me is ridiculous. You seem to have no problem voting Haru who is my scumread and who I attacked all game long.


I don't, because I've stopped caring about this game entirely. Two of my townreads are on the Haru wagon, so it behooves me to vote with them or we lose because I'm not splitting off my vote from the people I think are town.

And I'm not "lazily complaining." I've been pressing the stupid bullshit that you've been saying in regards to your vote analysis since night. And while we're on that topic, where's the filter dive you said you were going to do? I told you to do it, you said you were going to do it, and then you posted nothing about doing it and still came to the conclusion that I'm mafia.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 18:48 GMT
#3904
You haven't posted anything at all to indicate that you even give a shit about figuring me out; instead, you just posted some vote analysis that doesn't really make any sense and stuck with it despite not being interested in finding out why I voted the way I voted.

And that doesn't really cover the fact that someone already pressed me on this much, much earlier in the game.

Besides, what's wrong with going after someone for scumreading someone for bad reasons? Because the shit coming out of your mouth is borderline retarded and I don't think that you're a retard, so the only conclusion is that you're being wrong intentionally.
Retired.
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
AI Arena Tournament
20:00
Swiss - Round 1
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft661
RuFF_SC2 227
Ketroc 42
FoxeR 41
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 6856
GuemChi 2479
Shuttle 119
Bale 35
Noble 29
Sexy 28
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm131
League of Legends
JimRising 751
Counter-Strike
summit1g9211
m0e_tv511
minikerr64
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King60
Other Games
Sick155
Liquid`Ken13
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick47163
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 136
Other Games
BasetradeTV63
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH78
• practicex 32
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift7031
• Scarra2024
• Lourlo935
• Stunt393
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
6h 58m
ByuN vs Percival
Percival vs Rogue
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
Classic vs Rogue
IPSL
13h 58m
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
1d 2h
Wardi Open
1d 5h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 10h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
All Star Teams
5 days
INnoVation vs soO
sOs vs Scarlett
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
[ Show More ]
All Star Teams
6 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-10
Big Gabe Cup #3
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.