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On July 30 2014 04:28 Seeyalater wrote: Hey y'all I'm awake and town! So that's good.
Still heavily sick with the flu though.
Also so far reading into the game I don't trust Teemu....
What makes you not trust a tea drinking walrus? Take me on a ride through your thoughts.
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On July 30 2014 04:41 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 03:54 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 02:49 GlowingBear wrote:On July 30 2014 02:46 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 02:41 GlowingBear wrote: No, really, let's try to actually start the game. Jenny, from your experience on daily mafia, what's the difference between scum!jenny and town!jenny? This is a weird question to start the "actual" game with. What information are you expecting to get out of this question, specifically information that will help you figure out her alignment? Scum!jenny would lie about how she plays either alignment, so to get any helpful information, you have to know she is town. Kinda scummy. If we keep kidding all day long it will lead to a mislynch. I'd rather ask questions like this so we can gather some information. You may consider it true or false. If you consider it false, you may analyse how consciously she is trying to keep the appearances she brought on her answer. If I actually knew she was town, there would be no need to ask such question, Teemu I like that you try to generate some discussion, but I think the question you asked is weird. What do you now think of her answer that she did give one? Too consciously trying to keep the appearance? Nope, she actually said nothing on her post. It shows she is cautious to tell us about her play style, but it looks like mor of a town paranoia than scum hiding. It's fine that you find that weird, but what would be a scum motive behind that question. Think about it.
Do you expect people that are new to mafia in general to be able to say exactly how their play differentiate depending on what role they are when they haven't actually played enough to know themselves yet?
Like, if you were to ask seeyalater the same question that you asked me, you'd probably get an even more empty answer, because he hasn't played any yet.
It's not only what is said that is important, more so the way it is said. Or is that just me?
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On July 30 2014 04:50 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 04:47 JennyHell wrote:On July 30 2014 04:41 GlowingBear wrote:On July 30 2014 03:54 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 02:49 GlowingBear wrote:On July 30 2014 02:46 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 02:41 GlowingBear wrote: No, really, let's try to actually start the game. Jenny, from your experience on daily mafia, what's the difference between scum!jenny and town!jenny? This is a weird question to start the "actual" game with. What information are you expecting to get out of this question, specifically information that will help you figure out her alignment? Scum!jenny would lie about how she plays either alignment, so to get any helpful information, you have to know she is town. Kinda scummy. If we keep kidding all day long it will lead to a mislynch. I'd rather ask questions like this so we can gather some information. You may consider it true or false. If you consider it false, you may analyse how consciously she is trying to keep the appearances she brought on her answer. If I actually knew she was town, there would be no need to ask such question, Teemu I like that you try to generate some discussion, but I think the question you asked is weird. What do you now think of her answer that she did give one? Too consciously trying to keep the appearance? Nope, she actually said nothing on her post. It shows she is cautious to tell us about her play style, but it looks like mor of a town paranoia than scum hiding. It's fine that you find that weird, but what would be a scum motive behind that question. Think about it. Do you expect people that are new to mafia in general to be able to say exactly how their play differentiate depending on what role they are when they haven't actually played enough to know themselves yet? Like, if you were to ask seeyalater the same question that you asked me, you'd probably get an even more empty answer, because he hasn't played any yet. It's not only what is said that is important, more so the way it is said. Or is that just me? Nope, and knowing that you are inexperienced, it's normal to be cautious when someone asks you that question. That's why I said you sounded more like townie paranoia than scum hiding. But you do agree that you said nothing on that post, right?
I can agree that depending on what you compare it to, it wasn't the fluffiest post, if you measure it that way. But based on what information I myself hold, it's pretty much the fluffiest it can get for now.
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On July 30 2014 04:55 Seeyalater wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 04:47 JennyHell wrote:On July 30 2014 04:41 GlowingBear wrote:On July 30 2014 03:54 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 02:49 GlowingBear wrote:On July 30 2014 02:46 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 02:41 GlowingBear wrote: No, really, let's try to actually start the game. Jenny, from your experience on daily mafia, what's the difference between scum!jenny and town!jenny? This is a weird question to start the "actual" game with. What information are you expecting to get out of this question, specifically information that will help you figure out her alignment? Scum!jenny would lie about how she plays either alignment, so to get any helpful information, you have to know she is town. Kinda scummy. If we keep kidding all day long it will lead to a mislynch. I'd rather ask questions like this so we can gather some information. You may consider it true or false. If you consider it false, you may analyse how consciously she is trying to keep the appearances she brought on her answer. If I actually knew she was town, there would be no need to ask such question, Teemu I like that you try to generate some discussion, but I think the question you asked is weird. What do you now think of her answer that she did give one? Too consciously trying to keep the appearance? Nope, she actually said nothing on her post. It shows she is cautious to tell us about her play style, but it looks like mor of a town paranoia than scum hiding. It's fine that you find that weird, but what would be a scum motive behind that question. Think about it. Do you expect people that are new to mafia in general to be able to say exactly how their play differentiate depending on what role they are when they haven't actually played enough to know themselves yet? Like, if you were to ask seeyalater the same question that you asked me, you'd probably get an even more empty answer, because he hasn't played any yet. It's not only what is said that is important, more so the way it is said. Or is that just me? Hey don't try to throw scum at me sister! To answer said question, I'm pretty sure no matter the alignment I'd play similarly day 1 to try to figure out who the scummiest people are. Now what I'd do with said info is different though, because as you've noticed I've yet to actually call anyone mafia, just trying to notice who seems the scummiest so far. Not sure if this is you being Mafia trying to throw off scum Jenny, or just a really defensive townie.
Sorry if it looked like I was trying to make you seem scummy. I was merely pointing out a flaw that I saw in the question he asked me. It really had nothing to do with you, just brought you in as a way to explain the way I viewed it.
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On July 30 2014 04:58 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 04:37 Seeyalater wrote:On July 30 2014 04:32 JennyHell wrote:On July 30 2014 04:28 Seeyalater wrote: Hey y'all I'm awake and town! So that's good.
Still heavily sick with the flu though.
Also so far reading into the game I don't trust Teemu.... What makes you not trust a tea drinking walrus? Take me on a ride through your thoughts. I don't know, he just seems a little TOO eager, you know what I mean? Like going off so hard to get people to like him(including cute pictures as well!) makes me not trust him too much. Not calling him mafia or anything, just my top scum from what has been happening here so far! Are you his partner Jenny? :o Lol wait. How can you not be calling him mafia or anything if you're saying he is your top scum read?
My guess, he starts off reading everyone as town, trying to figure out who is scummy enough to be mafia. So he's saying they're leaning mafia, or the things they said are questionable for a town.
Personally I start reading everyone as mafia, and see who proves to me they are towny and can be trusted enough to be in the town circle with me.
But that's just my guess. I could be wrong.
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I was merely guessing how he'd be calling someone scum without meaning mafia, if you want to read me guessing and defending, that's up to you. That said, I liked his upfront approach, out of nowhere just BLAM here's what I think. It was rather refreshing for someone who's new.
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I can see why people are on the fence or dislike Poofter. He's a strong player during video mafia and even during times I have a strong town read on him, it's still at the back of my mind that he could be fooling me and in fact be mafia. He's really good at portraying town when being mafia, and really good at finding that perfect position when a role to not be targeted by mafia during the night.
That said, I personally don't feel like he's the target for today.
We have yet to hear anything from meatpudding and Lord Tolkien doesn't even seem like he cares.
I'd like to hear from as many as possible before I feel comfortable enough to truly vote on anyone today.
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It seemed like he could see both sides of the coin. When Teemu and GB were discussing the question he gave to me, he explained why it would be a good question to ask, to gather information, and then he also at a later stage explained why it would be scummy to not share what he took from it. He's presenting two worlds which both may very well be true and not one of them seemed to be a fact to him. That makes me believe that he is not sitting on facts about who is mafia and who is not.
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On July 30 2014 06:28 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 06:11 JennyHell wrote: I can see why people are on the fence or dislike Poofter. He's a strong player during video mafia and even during times I have a strong town read on him, it's still at the back of my mind that he could be fooling me and in fact be mafia. He's really good at portraying town when being mafia, and really good at finding that perfect position when a role to not be targeted by mafia during the night.
That said, I personally don't feel like he's the target for today.
We have yet to hear anything from meatpudding and Lord Tolkien doesn't even seem like he cares.
I'd like to hear from as many as possible before I feel comfortable enough to truly vote on anyone today. Just hope I'm town and role with it. Do you think I'm doing a good job of appearing town... whether or not that is what you think I am. Like do you think townie people would read me as town?
I'd rather go for more than just hope about you being town, but it is what it is I guess.
It seems you have us all divided about you right now, so don't know if that's such a good job being towny, just yet.
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On July 30 2014 06:52 Tehpoofter wrote: Marry (Someone I'd ride until the end of time) - Tehpoofter and Jenny
Bang (I'd love 'em and leave em) - Glowingbear, RomanNumeralGuy, Lord Tolkien
Kill (I'd vote for them to no longer be alive anymore) - Lilwade, Teemu, Seeyalater
Too insignificant to appear on the list: Everyone else can get killed or die from the sorrow of being ignored by me.
May I ask for some info behind your reads?
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On July 30 2014 07:02 Seeyalater wrote: That Bang on Tolkien is kind of odd, seeing as how he's said one thing since the game started, and has contributed nothing at all since, but I guess he got a town vibe off that, and the fact that he was considering making time for the game although very busy is something I can dig as a townie read, so I'd agree that for now Tolkien is off my immediate lynch list.
I didn't get anything from his 1 post. Could also meant that he got rolled as mafia and didn't want to let his team down by not playing.. Juuuust saying.
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I felt that GB came out strong, leading town in a direction that is much needed on D1. It's always a bit hard to transition into the serious talk about the game and stop the trolly joke posts and he chose to be the one to break the pattern, so to speak.
He seem to be trying to gather information and ask questions but he's so far been less willing to tell much about himself and his thoughts, having to be pinged out for it by both Teemu and Poofter.
He first said he didn't know what to read from my answer, but then came back with a comment that I was withholding information as paranoid town. I think he maybe expected too much but at least he gave it an effort to try to figure me out.
I'll read him town for today, but I will make sure to check back on him regularly and I reserve the right to change my mind about him, should I need to.
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Oh okay, so donkey town. Gotya!
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The donkey town comment was to GB.
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You've seen my mouth? Now I'm a bit creeped out.. Did you hack in to the snapchat I sent to Poofter with my mouth on it?!
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On July 30 2014 08:34 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 06:31 lilwade wrote:On July 30 2014 06:28 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 30 2014 06:11 JennyHell wrote: I can see why people are on the fence or dislike Poofter. He's a strong player during video mafia and even during times I have a strong town read on him, it's still at the back of my mind that he could be fooling me and in fact be mafia. He's really good at portraying town when being mafia, and really good at finding that perfect position when a role to not be targeted by mafia during the night.
That said, I personally don't feel like he's the target for today.
We have yet to hear anything from meatpudding and Lord Tolkien doesn't even seem like he cares.
I'd like to hear from as many as possible before I feel comfortable enough to truly vote on anyone today. Just hope I'm town and role with it. Do you think I'm doing a good job of appearing town... whether or not that is what you think I am. Like do you think townie people would read me as town? I see what you did there The breadcrumbing is so real.
Even though I'm sure most of us caught it, I'm not sure how I feel about it being pointed out like lilwade did. Was it to troll, was it to alert inert buddy mafia or was it just not fully thought through?
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In video mafia if someone is softing a role, you're not supposed to point it out to people... That's why it's softing, not hard claiming. They're trying to keep it on a down low, in hopes that mafia will not pick up on it.
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Okay, since most have given some kind of scum/not scum read, I'll just quickly name mine.
For day 1, I'm okay with Poofter, GB, Seeya, maaaaybe Teemu for not following the general crowd and actually questioning some things that were said and done. But it's a big maybe.
I'm on the fence with the rest of you. Pick up your game!
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On July 30 2014 08:57 GlowingBear wrote: Aaaaand I thought I was going to cross things from my "to-do" list but instead I'm off to drink.
Not creepy, you answered me that you had an annoying mouth and I was curious what that might be. Lol o.O
Highly doubt you actually found me, since my twitter handle isn't even close to my handle here.
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