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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 17:08 GMT
#49
/in

Let's do it yo.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 28 2014 17:04 GMT
#74
On July 28 2014 23:58 marvellosity wrote:
why were people townreading damdred there? i wasn't paying enough attention to notice


Because he had initiative early on.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 19:42 GMT
#93
Is this starting or what?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 22:05 GMT
#99
First.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 22:10 GMT
#100
Where is everybody?

lol wtf
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 22:14 GMT
#102
Actually, I nominate myself to be the town duelmaster.

Nobody would ever let me duel anyone if I were mafia, nor would I want to, because it would be so out-of-character since I hate dying; thus, I will win every duel I take part in since I would simply never duel anyone as mafia.

Also, I will be speed dueling as soon as daybreaks so just lynch everybody that isn't me and we win. You dig?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#104
NO.

SPEEDGAME.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 22:24 GMT
#107
So you want people to duel based on filter size? How does that help us?

Idgi.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 22:27 GMT
#111
Okay.

Also I nominate myself for brave soul that duels people, because I am the brave soul that will be doing all of the dueling this game.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 22:28 GMT
#113
You can't duel yet.

And if you duel anyone at all I will spitelynch you.

I AM THE DUELMASTER. YOU WILL BOW TO ME.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 22:37 GMT
#126
On July 30 2014 07:35 Holyflare wrote:
Even cav joking around


Who says I'm joking?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 22:40 GMT
#133
On July 30 2014 07:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 07:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 30 2014 07:35 Holyflare wrote:
Even cav joking around


Who says I'm joking?


Your posts. "speed round" in all caps etc etc


No.

I am the town duelmaster. I lay down my life for this town and I WILL LEAD YOU ALL TO VICTORY.

THE DUELMASTER TELLS NO JOKES. THE DUELMASTER IS NOT ABOUT FUN AND GAMES.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 22:41 GMT
#134
On July 30 2014 07:40 Vivax wrote:
Or Obi the unlynchable town champion, if he feels like being my Oberyn.


This is how this game is going to go.

I am unlynchable and you should all address me as such. I am your new lord and master.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 22:43 GMT
#138
Vivax has no authority in this town. I am the law. I will be the one issuing duels and anyone that does so against my orders shall be lynched.

Bow to the will of the state.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 22:48 GMT
#141
Proposition denied.

I want to see how this plays out before I decide Day 1's lynch.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 23:04 GMT
#155
On July 30 2014 08:02 kushm4sta wrote:
vivax dont you think two scummy people should duel each other, rather than 1 scummy vs 1 townie?


There are two things wrong with this plan:

A) We risk losing our lynch because the mafia can deflect the lynch if we actually end up having a scummy town duel someone. Since basically everyone knows I'm town by now, then if we actually hit scum, scum is guaranteed to get lynched.
B) I am the fucking duelmaster. The duelmaster doesn't allow others to duel in his stead.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 23:15 GMT
#166
On July 30 2014 08:10 kushm4sta wrote:
See I think, rather than an impulsive thing, duels should be forced by town consensus between the two scummiest people. That way the voting phase will mean something.
Also if both people are scummy, what's the difference of having them both up for lynch at the same time than having them up one at a time?


What if the two scummiest don't want to duel each other?

The reality of it is we should be able to pick our lynch before we even begin to duel, thereby ensuring that we get the correct lynch and that the mafia has no ability to manipulate the vote either way.

Since everybody knows I am town, I can ensure that whoever I duel will get lynched; ergo, this is the most efficient way of lynching people since there's simply no room for mafia to maneuver when the gauntlet is thrown.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 23:25 GMT
#173
On July 30 2014 08:24 Vivax wrote:
Marv why don't you care about our dispute?

Do you think we're both town?


There's nothing happening in your conversation.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 23:27 GMT
#175
On July 30 2014 08:25 Holyflare wrote:
He's too cocky at the moment so we'll see. Pretty towny though. Will check world cup or w/e tomorrow.
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 08:16 Vivax wrote:
On July 30 2014 08:15 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 08:09 kushm4sta wrote:
HF, i like the reasons why you are calling vivax scum, but I don't think those reasons apply to vivax. It scares me about your alignment because it's like you know what makes someone scummy but you are misapplying it.
Set up talk is bad? I'd say it's not alignment indicative usually, but I think there is an optimal way to play this setup and if discussion can bring us towards that, it is productive and protown.


How do those 2 go together? If you like the reasons then surely that means they are accurate and not misapplied? Why do they not apply to vivax?


It's pretty simple to explain actually, he thinks you're using sound reason to scumread somebody, but he doesn't think that those reasons to me. Further explanation doesn't seem necessary since in theory you should be more capable of understand english than me.


Thanks for answering for another player. Why are you not disagreeing with this quote then seeing as apparently everything I've said is a misrepresentation and wrong but instead answering his intentions? Why does it not apply to you?


Check World Cup before Day. Post what you think here.

It's important.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 23:45 GMT
#184
I think Palmar is town.

Anyone disagree?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 23:48 GMT
#185
On July 30 2014 08:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 08:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 30 2014 08:25 Holyflare wrote:
He's too cocky at the moment so we'll see. Pretty towny though. Will check world cup or w/e tomorrow.
On July 30 2014 08:16 Vivax wrote:
On July 30 2014 08:15 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 08:09 kushm4sta wrote:
HF, i like the reasons why you are calling vivax scum, but I don't think those reasons apply to vivax. It scares me about your alignment because it's like you know what makes someone scummy but you are misapplying it.
Set up talk is bad? I'd say it's not alignment indicative usually, but I think there is an optimal way to play this setup and if discussion can bring us towards that, it is productive and protown.


How do those 2 go together? If you like the reasons then surely that means they are accurate and not misapplied? Why do they not apply to vivax?


It's pretty simple to explain actually, he thinks you're using sound reason to scumread somebody, but he doesn't think that those reasons to me. Further explanation doesn't seem necessary since in theory you should be more capable of understand english than me.


Thanks for answering for another player. Why are you not disagreeing with this quote then seeing as apparently everything I've said is a misrepresentation and wrong but instead answering his intentions? Why does it not apply to you?


Check World Cup before Day. Post what you think here.

It's important.


Already did.


Uhm. Where?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 00:02 GMT
#188
I don't really care if you think I'm forced or not.

What an asinine thing to say.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 00:05 GMT
#191
I'm rambling? Since when?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 00:06 GMT
#193
On July 30 2014 09:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 09:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't really care if you think I'm forced or not.

What an asinine thing to say.


Please don't downgrade it to this level this game. If you think it's a bad thing to say reason out why it's bad. If it's a scummy thing say it's scummy. Don't just throw out the randomness.


I can't respond to an argument that doesn't exist with an argument that does.

"Forced" is such an unbelievably subjective term and turning this into a, "I don't like the way you're doing things" war is just a giant waste of time.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 00:14 GMT
#201
On July 30 2014 09:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 09:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


"Forced" is such an unbelievably subjective term and turning this into a, "I don't like the way you're doing things" war is just a giant waste of time.

Exactly. I personally think you are trying to look way more confident than you really are. That's my observation. If you can't respond to that then don't and we will both move on for now.


I'm not just going to let you tell people that I'm scummy for no reason and expect everything to be totally okay.

If you think I'm scummy, then pressure me. I don't like the fact that you're just going "nah I don't like this lol" and then just walking away like it never happened.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 00:17 GMT
#205
On July 30 2014 09:16 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 09:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 30 2014 09:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On July 30 2014 09:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


"Forced" is such an unbelievably subjective term and turning this into a, "I don't like the way you're doing things" war is just a giant waste of time.

Exactly. I personally think you are trying to look way more confident than you really are. That's my observation. If you can't respond to that then don't and we will both move on for now.


I'm not just going to let you tell people that I'm scummy for no reason and expect everything to be totally okay.

If you think I'm scummy, then pressure me. I don't like the fact that you're just going "nah I don't like this lol" and then just walking away like it never happened.

Well, you will have to live with it though. The end.


Or I'll just have you lynched.

Your call.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 00:37 GMT
#225
On July 30 2014 09:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 09:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 30 2014 09:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On July 30 2014 09:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 30 2014 09:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On July 30 2014 09:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


"Forced" is such an unbelievably subjective term and turning this into a, "I don't like the way you're doing things" war is just a giant waste of time.

Exactly. I personally think you are trying to look way more confident than you really are. That's my observation. If you can't respond to that then don't and we will both move on for now.


I'm not just going to let you tell people that I'm scummy for no reason and expect everything to be totally okay.

If you think I'm scummy, then pressure me. I don't like the fact that you're just going "nah I don't like this lol" and then just walking away like it never happened.

Well, you will have to live with it though. The end.


Or I'll just have you lynched.

Your call.

Dude, stop it. You're scaring me.


I don't see what part of fake confidence could be considered scary.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 00:41 GMT
#229
On July 30 2014 09:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 08:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I think Palmar is town.

Anyone disagree?


What made you say this by the way because i got the opposite feeling till he posted his read thing.


His concern of you drowning the thread in high-quantity posting showed concern for having a good town atmosphere.

I think that's a towny thing to think. Why did you think the opposite?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 00:41 GMT
#231
On July 30 2014 09:40 Vivax wrote:
Obi just don't answer him, please. He will pull you into a cluttering vortex of pointless questions cause a blind guy would see you're town in this game.


It's too late. I've been pulled into the black hole of nothingness.

Save yourseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelf.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 00:47 GMT
#233
On July 30 2014 09:43 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 09:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 30 2014 09:38 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 08:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I think Palmar is town.

Anyone disagree?


What made you say this by the way because i got the opposite feeling till he posted his read thing.


His concern of you drowning the thread in high-quantity posting showed concern for having a good town atmosphere.

I think that's a towny thing to think. Why did you think the opposite?


Because it implies what i was doing in the thread previously was useless and is very easy to post to "show concern" as that requires no effort aka easy for mafia to do. Especially when all of his filter was spam. Hypocrisy. Either way. I think I'm going to come around to his ritoky read.


I don't see how that implies anything. You are, by nature, an incredibly high-volume, high-activity poster. Why is it that his concern for the number of your posts is a bad thing? I understand that that post could be replicated by a mafia, but I don't get why you don't put any stock into it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 02:15 GMT
#261
On July 30 2014 11:05 Damdred wrote:
Hey guys, i wait around most of the day and then it starts while i'm at work that makes me sad. But i'm caught up now thankfully.

I know its been talked about a little bit but I agree with that it should be a confident townie against his top scum read. Its to easy sometimes when two people you think look scummy to tunnel them both and just not see whats going on besides that.

Obi why didn't you post more like this in titanic? You were so much more reserved their and you are acting so much more confident and easy going here I Iike it in comparison to our previous games together.



Meh, I'm not entirely sure in hindsight. I got really detached from Titanic for some reason. I wouldn't be able to tell you why because I honestly don't know.

If I really had to give you a reason, I think frustration might have been a really big part of it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 02:16 GMT
#262
On July 30 2014 11:12 batsnacks wrote:
Actually, no, Vivax. You don't get to do that. I asked for advice and you gave me some random anecdote about some other game. You didn't even address my question. Are you so wrapped up in arguing with Holyflare that you can't answer a simple question directly?

Someone is going to have to race me when the selection period begins if they don't want us dueling. Like, they better get there within 5 minutes.


If you waste our selection period doing stupid shit instead of letting the duelmaster do his thing, you are going to get lynched.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 02:24 GMT
#276
On July 30 2014 11:18 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 11:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 30 2014 11:12 batsnacks wrote:
Actually, no, Vivax. You don't get to do that. I asked for advice and you gave me some random anecdote about some other game. You didn't even address my question. Are you so wrapped up in arguing with Holyflare that you can't answer a simple question directly?

Someone is going to have to race me when the selection period begins if they don't want us dueling. Like, they better get there within 5 minutes.


If you waste our selection period doing stupid shit instead of letting the duelmaster do his thing, you are going to get lynched.


Your loss. You've got less than 24 hours. My alarm is set.


No, I don't think you get it. If you end up dueling people for asinine reasons we are just going to lynch you and move on. We are not wasting our time with people who insist on doing stupid shit instead of scumhunting/solving the game.

If you honestly believe that whatever the fuck you said is actually grounds for a scumread/duel then you're out of your mind.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 02:29 GMT
#282
On July 30 2014 11:26 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 11:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 30 2014 11:18 batsnacks wrote:
On July 30 2014 11:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 30 2014 11:12 batsnacks wrote:
Actually, no, Vivax. You don't get to do that. I asked for advice and you gave me some random anecdote about some other game. You didn't even address my question. Are you so wrapped up in arguing with Holyflare that you can't answer a simple question directly?

Someone is going to have to race me when the selection period begins if they don't want us dueling. Like, they better get there within 5 minutes.


If you waste our selection period doing stupid shit instead of letting the duelmaster do his thing, you are going to get lynched.


Your loss. You've got less than 24 hours. My alarm is set.


No, I don't think you get it. If you end up dueling people for asinine reasons we are just going to lynch you and move on. We are not wasting our time with people who insist on doing stupid shit instead of scumhunting/solving the game.

If you honestly believe that whatever the fuck you said is actually grounds for a scumread/duel then you're out of your mind.


Not the first time I've heard this. I might be out of my mind but I'm good on my word.


Which is why I'm telling you not to.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 02:35 GMT
#291
On July 30 2014 11:30 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 11:28 Holyflare wrote:
Well do it.

Also bat if you duel straight away and claim cop i would still lynch you because that's how silly it is.


Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 30 2014 11:26 batsnacks wrote:
On July 30 2014 11:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 30 2014 11:18 batsnacks wrote:
On July 30 2014 11:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 30 2014 11:12 batsnacks wrote:
Actually, no, Vivax. You don't get to do that. I asked for advice and you gave me some random anecdote about some other game. You didn't even address my question. Are you so wrapped up in arguing with Holyflare that you can't answer a simple question directly?

Someone is going to have to race me when the selection period begins if they don't want us dueling. Like, they better get there within 5 minutes.


If you waste our selection period doing stupid shit instead of letting the duelmaster do his thing, you are going to get lynched.


Your loss. You've got less than 24 hours. My alarm is set.


No, I don't think you get it. If you end up dueling people for asinine reasons we are just going to lynch you and move on. We are not wasting our time with people who insist on doing stupid shit instead of scumhunting/solving the game.

If you honestly believe that whatever the fuck you said is actually grounds for a scumread/duel then you're out of your mind.


Not the first time I've heard this. I might be out of my mind but I'm good on my word.


Which is why I'm telling you not to.


You guys are welcome to try to beat me to it but, seriously, you'll have 5 minutes tops and that's being generous.


You're just killing yourself.

Fair warning.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 02:38 GMT
#295
I don't know.

For some reason I always feel like I can try to talk some sense into you, but you always shove your head up your ass instead.

Whatever.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 02:43 GMT
#299
On July 30 2014 11:41 ritoky wrote:
quite annoyed that obi didn't respond to me. also, bat even though you're my top town. if you continue to insist that you will duel upon the opening of the day, i will be forced to stop you. i would suggest you reconsider your stance.


What was I responding to?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 02:46 GMT
#303
I don't know. There are a bunch of people that haven't posted yet. I have townreads on a lot of people, which is probably wrong, so indiscriminately murdering players who haven't posted yet might not be the greatest course of action.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 02:52 GMT
#310
On July 30 2014 11:49 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 11:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't know. There are a bunch of people that haven't posted yet. I have townreads on a lot of people, which is probably wrong, so indiscriminately murdering players who haven't posted yet might not be the greatest course of action.


So why should I anoint you duel master if you lack scum reads?

Also, the empanada question is still pending.


Several reasons:
1) I am the goddamn duelmaster and you will respect my will, with or without your blessing.
2) I can't fabricate scumreads. There are a bunch of people not playing and that always makes everything wonky.
3) I can't fabricate scumreads because I'm town, so now you know that you're getting a town duelmaster.

Though I will say that Damdred's self-meta'ing thing is kinda weirding me out.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 02:53 GMT
#311
On July 30 2014 11:52 Holyflare wrote:
I think yamato is mafia


Why?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 04:56 GMT
#323
On July 30 2014 12:27 batsnacks wrote:
Ok so that's two that have claimed mafia. How many more do we need?


Who claimed mafia and where?

And how, I guess.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 17:13 GMT
#389
On July 31 2014 02:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Like I wasn't even the first one to say shoot a lurker.


Did you read MM1's last game?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2014 17:25 GMT
#401
On July 31 2014 02:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 31 2014 01:33 slOosh wrote:
rayn, why do you think sinani town, and what do you think of JAT?

I think sinani would not goto "fuck you all - see you tomorrow" mode as mafia.
JAT would not call me scum as mafia.

This is surprisingly accurate.
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On July 31 2014 02:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 31 2014 02:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Like I wasn't even the first one to say shoot a lurker.


Did you read MM1's last game?

Why would I need to do that? It's cut and dry - he fabricated reasons for scumreading me after I called him out for lying.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461330-noir-mini-mafia-chapter-2

Read and understand who exactly you're dealing with.
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July 30 2014 17:36 GMT
#411
On July 31 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:
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On July 31 2014 02:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 31 2014 02:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On July 31 2014 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 31 2014 01:33 slOosh wrote:
rayn, why do you think sinani town, and what do you think of JAT?

I think sinani would not goto "fuck you all - see you tomorrow" mode as mafia.
JAT would not call me scum as mafia.

This is surprisingly accurate.
On July 31 2014 02:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 31 2014 02:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Like I wasn't even the first one to say shoot a lurker.


Did you read MM1's last game?

Why would I need to do that? It's cut and dry - he fabricated reasons for scumreading me after I called him out for lying.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461330-noir-mini-mafia-chapter-2

Read and understand who exactly you're dealing with.

What are you hinting at? That he did a stupid fakeclaim as town? Does that absolve him from being scum somehow?


No, I don't think that's what I'm hinting at.

It's really hard for me to explain, but I think he's town in some roundabout way. There are going to be holes in his play regardless of how you want to interpret what he's saying, but I think this can be boiled down into a more simple template:

Do you get the feeling that MM is hiding anything in his posts? I see a relatively strong desire to contribute, despite the fact that I don't agree with what he's saying.
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July 30 2014 17:50 GMT
#423
On July 31 2014 02:15 ritoky wrote:
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On July 31 2014 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky blow up yamato.


regardless of if his claim about having time is true or not, do you believe he would try that little as mafia?


Yamato and Batsnacks are both good bombs.

If Batsnacks is just going to derp all game then we get to save our lynch for tomorrow by blowing him up.
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July 30 2014 18:13 GMT
#437
ALL DUELS GO THROUGH THE DUELMASTER.

THIS IS NON-NEGOTIABLE.
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July 30 2014 20:44 GMT
#537
On July 31 2014 04:42 slOosh wrote:
Duelmaster

I, deputy jail warden slOosh, hereby formally request a duel with goodkarma at high noon tomorrow, with your permission of course.


Request denied.

I actually spent a lot of time looking over his meta because I didn't like his entry into the thread last night. The last couple of posts he has made thus far have been more in-line with his town game.

I would rather the thread be allowed to develop when we see how he interacts with other players in the thread and how he posts his inevitable reads, but until them, I would prefer he be left alone.

Now, on another topic, I have questions for the following players:

@Rayn: Why do you have gk as scum? I'm in a bit of a rush right now, so I may have overlooked whatever you have posted in regards to his alignment, but I'd like to see fleshed-out reasoning rather than just having you throw his name down and expecting him to die.

A lack of compassion for your fellow man is something that displeases the Duelmaster.

@Holyflare: Why MM1? Same deal.

Also, I'll probably be back in the thread in several hours. I have to go to work.
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 31 2014 02:10 GMT
#636
WHO DARE DEFIES THE WILL OF THE DUELMASTER?

I DEMAND THAT YOU STEP FORWARD AND EXPLAIN YOURSELF.
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Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 31 2014 03:07 GMT
#639
Actually, I'm pretty sure we lynch Palmar here.
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July 31 2014 03:18 GMT
#640
Also, lol at Holyflare modkilling himself.

Palmar needs to claim in full.
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July 31 2014 03:23 GMT
#641
Also, fuck mafia for killing Rayn.

Rayn supported me. Rayn supported the Duelmaster.
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 31 2014 03:42 GMT
#643
My issue is that every single one of those things can be replicated by a mafia.

Do you honestly believe they can't? Besides, I seriously doubt scum!Palmar can't just up and go, "I don't remember why I townread all these people."
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July 31 2014 04:03 GMT
#645
Who cares? I thought we were blowing him up.
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July 31 2014 04:22 GMT
#646
Actually, why is it that Palmar pretended to give a shit about the thread atmosphere when Holyflare was posting, but then all of a sudden #yolo duels Marv?

That doesn't make any sense.
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July 31 2014 04:43 GMT
#650
On July 31 2014 13:32 slOosh wrote:
Well he did it cause he found it funny I suppose.

I dunno, I liked his general attitude about it. And it forces marv to participate as either alignment, which is good for us, and it seems like if he finds marv town then he is ok with being lynched. I think at least Palmar is town.


Which I can understand.

But I don't understand how you can give so much of a shit about town atmosphere...Enough to write a giant post about a high-volume player telling him not to be so high-volume like he always is, just so he could turn around and #yolo duel.

He's commenting on something that's so unbelievably obvious acting like he cares, and all of a sudden he doesn't care.

You don't think that's a problem?
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July 31 2014 04:45 GMT
#653
On July 31 2014 13:34 kushm4sta wrote:
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On July 31 2014 13:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Actually, why is it that Palmar pretended to give a shit about the thread atmosphere when Holyflare was posting, but then all of a sudden #yolo duels Marv?

That doesn't make any sense.


He cared about not spamming. that's not exactly the same as caring about pro town atmosphere.


I understand I'm sort of enabling you by responding. But if you are town, you should know that most people don't actually read 300 pages of game content. I know you do, but I also know not nearly everyone does.

When I am mafia, I want nothing more than the thread ending up at least 100 pages on day 1. It ensures town isn't actively looking into specific things, just sort of goes along with some hive-mind mentality. It is far better if townies agree to consolidate posts and only point out important things that need pointing out.

So, yes, I understand you enjoy spamming as much as you can. But I'm asking you to try not to. Spamming is far less effective than it used to be anyway, due to people actually picking up on the fact that for a while we just assumed everyone who spammed was town.


Do you honestly believe the purpose of this post was to not give a shit about town atmosphere? Because that looks like the entire purpose of it.
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July 31 2014 05:02 GMT
#657
On July 31 2014 13:52 kushm4sta wrote:
obi, there is a huge difference between being protown and being anti spam. anti spam can come from being lazy and not wanting to read a lot of shit. I don't see palmar's anti spam as a contradiction to his yolo instaduel at all.


Okay.

I think this conversation is going to stagnate until Marv actually gets around to playing and Palmar fullclaims.
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July 31 2014 07:10 GMT
#665
I'm not talking about it because it's boring.

I don't get why people are scumreading goodkarma.
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 31 2014 07:21 GMT
#671
On July 31 2014 16:19 kushm4sta wrote:
Obi who are you thinking is scum? I'm having a hard time finding people who are scummy.
How do you read damdred? I'm thinking maybe he's scum.


You're probably finding a hard time finding scummy people because scum probably isn't doing anything.

Or maybe because nobody is doing anything. I'm having a hard time deciding between the two.
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July 31 2014 07:25 GMT
#673
Yep.

Explain how you feel on Damdred, because I don't know what to make of him. I still kinda think he's town but I might be biased.
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July 31 2014 07:25 GMT
#674
Also, do we know how many scum there are in this game? I'm guessing somewhere in the realm of 3-4.
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July 31 2014 07:28 GMT
#676
'Cause he thinks I'm town and he's lynchbait.
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July 31 2014 16:34 GMT
#724
##vote marv

Welp.
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July 31 2014 17:14 GMT
#732
Stop modkilling yourselves you idiots.
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 31 2014 17:35 GMT
#737
I really need to duel someone before the game ends.

That's my whole shtick. It needs to happen. Like...It has to.
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July 31 2014 17:58 GMT
#744
On August 01 2014 02:56 kushm4sta wrote:
sloosh why no damdred/sinani on the list?

I don't think vivax belongs there. He has just so much townie content.
~~~
also i really don't think this scumteam gives a fuck


This, lol.
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July 31 2014 18:59 GMT
#763
On August 01 2014 03:56 batsnacks wrote:
Does anyone else think we need to get rid of Palmar, just to be safe?

I think at the very least he should claim. He said his ability was one time only so it's not like it matters.


No.

What the fuck?
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July 31 2014 19:15 GMT
#767
On August 01 2014 04:05 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 03:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:56 batsnacks wrote:
Does anyone else think we need to get rid of Palmar, just to be safe?

I think at the very least he should claim. He said his ability was one time only so it's not like it matters.


No.

What the fuck?


I just think if Palmar were mafia what just happened would be the greatest thing I've ever seen in a game of mafia. And I don't want to lose to something that awesome.


It doesn't really matter. Palmar never fullclaimed his role and now he has no need to. If he's actually a fake whatever-role-he-is, then that means it'll be really obvious as time goes on since he'll never die.

I think you're letting Storm color your read here.
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July 31 2014 19:16 GMT
#768
Also I'm speed dueling sinani tomorrow.

If you have a problem with it, speak up now. The Duelmaster has spoken.
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August 01 2014 02:41 GMT
#800
I feel as if the Duelmaster should be off limits for sploding.

Though I may be biased.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 01 2014 04:33 GMT
#804
I have failed to uphold the responsibilities brought upon me by becoming the town Duelmaster.

I am dishonorable.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 01 2014 17:03 GMT
#820
lol.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
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August 01 2014 17:03 GMT
#821
Btw, I told you mm1 was town.

Don't say I didn't warn you.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 01 2014 17:08 GMT
#822
Idk who today's duel should be.

Maybe yamato?
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August 01 2014 17:47 GMT
#824
On August 02 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 02:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Btw, I told you mm1 was town.

Don't say I didn't warn you.

Yeah, you were so helpful in that regard. All day you were screaming "MM is town, don't bomb him" when people were telling ritoky to kill him.
So what the hell happened? Did MM get a save off on top of being bombed?


Them's fightin' words.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 01 2014 18:08 GMT
#826
Actually:

On August 01 2014 14:22 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
WOW, today is an awesome day! Went to six flags and came back to find 2 scum dead. Obi, ill keep you alive if possible until you get a duel ^^


MM1 hardclaimed a saving role.

So did ritoky really try to bomb me or did he just blow up MM1?
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 01 2014 19:07 GMT
#841
Ffs kush.
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August 01 2014 19:09 GMT
#843
On August 02 2014 04:07 kushm4sta wrote:
yup i went there.
obi you don't have the balls to be duelmaster


Probably because I'd rather we came to a consensus instead of having someone duel lynchbait.
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August 01 2014 19:12 GMT
#846
On August 02 2014 04:10 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 04:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 02 2014 04:07 kushm4sta wrote:
yup i went there.
obi you don't have the balls to be duelmaster


Probably because I'd rather we came to a consensus instead of having someone duel lynchbait.


I think you should resign as duel master.


I'm beginning to think so too.

I'm kind of annoyed though.
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August 01 2014 19:13 GMT
#850
I'm pretty sure this is actually a TvT cross and you just wasted our duel for the day.
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August 01 2014 19:15 GMT
#854
On August 02 2014 04:13 slOosh wrote:
It's stupid (and potentially opportunistic) what he did, and I posit that Damdred has a higher chance of being town based on goodkarma's interaction with him.


If you want to justify it, sure. This duel is a waste of time.

@Batsnacks: No thanks. I think you're town and I'm not going to duel someone that I think is town. I'll probably duel yamato or something.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
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August 01 2014 19:16 GMT
#856
On August 02 2014 04:14 kushm4sta wrote:
because scum never bus right?
scum never bus in a game with no downside to busing. right?

hey you ungrateful fucks should be thankful that I saved you from the bored of deciding between two inactives.


Yes, you actually made us choose between two people we all think are town instead.

That's so much better.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 01 2014 19:26 GMT
#866
Damdred, if you have a role now is the time to claim it. We have to decide which of you we would rather keep around, so if your role is really important you should tell us what it is.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 01 2014 19:27 GMT
#867
Actually, ignore me.

Don't claim.
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August 01 2014 19:44 GMT
#878
On August 02 2014 04:42 kushm4sta wrote:
so because he says "every post i make as a purpose" that means he think his inactive opinion is going to sway you??

Why can't busing be the purpose? Two scummy people who both look scummy, it's quite normal to bus.


Damdred has a role. This outweighs every single piece of analysis you can give us.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 01 2014 19:46 GMT
#884
Also, from now on, we use the night sequence to set up duels. You claim before daybreak. If you have a role and people are talking about dueling you, then you didn't do your job and you have nobody to blame but yourself. If you claim only after you get dueled from now on, you lose the privileges afforded to you by being blue.

This town is too unreliable to allow for the setup period to be used constructively. We have to set this up beforehand next time.
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August 01 2014 19:47 GMT
#887
On August 02 2014 04:46 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Shouldn't we make damdred fully claim now? I mean scum know he is a role anyways.


This is a mafia post.


It's not. I was planning on posting the same thing.

Since we have stuff like bombs in this setup, he might still be extremely dangerous to scum unclaimed. Don't harp on it any further.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 01 2014 19:55 GMT
#902
On August 02 2014 04:52 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 04:47 kushm4sta wrote:
epic failure hero duel
damdred claim imo


I've already said i'm blue and if we set up the duels in advanced its not a huge loss to the town. I'm a hero basically I can switch someone dueling with myself and save them from mislynch. I can only do this once per game and i'm put up for the duel in their place.


Why am I not the one with this power?

I mean what the fuck.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 01 2014 19:56 GMT
#907
On August 02 2014 04:52 Palmar wrote:
I think we should policy kush


I'm thinking this as well.

If nothing else, it helps me regain my honor as Duelmaster.
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August 01 2014 19:57 GMT
#909
On August 02 2014 04:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 04:54 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 02 2014 04:52 Damdred wrote:
On August 02 2014 04:47 kushm4sta wrote:
epic failure hero duel
damdred claim imo


I've already said i'm blue and if we set up the duels in advanced its not a huge loss to the town. I'm a hero basically I can switch someone dueling with myself and save them from mislynch. I can only do this once per game and i'm put up for the duel in their place.


how does this power make sense?


It makes perfect sense to me, he can prove it tomorrow when I duel the yammo.


No. I am dueling yamato. The Duelmaster must earn his keep.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 02 2014 02:10 GMT
#973
I was going to post the post that Damdred made.

Does that mean we're the same alignment? Probably.
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August 02 2014 02:11 GMT
#974
I have nothing else to add in regards to this argument. I'm willing to let the town decide who dies because I refuse to play favorites here.
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August 02 2014 02:33 GMT
#976
There is no specific direction for us to take. We aren't hitting scum today and it's a waste of time trying to figure out who's scummier since it doesn't matter.

The only thing I can say is that we could keep the more useful of the two around, but even then I don't think it matters.

I hate TvT crosses. I'm pretty sure kush is the one that's going to get lynched today, but I think that just boils down to the town consensus instead of trying to analyze the two of them.
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August 02 2014 02:40 GMT
#978
Probably kush, I guess.
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August 02 2014 02:52 GMT
#980
[image loading]

Nobody may take the title of Duelmaster from me. I am the protector of this town, not you.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 02 2014 02:56 GMT
#982
My job is to lynch mafia, not to determine which townie is more deserving of life.

That duty falls unto the general public.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 02 2014 03:09 GMT
#984
Because my job is to purge evil, not determine the lesser of two. That's a politician's gig.

Though I guarantee you I'll duel someone tomorrow.
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August 02 2014 03:13 GMT
#986
VERY WELL. YOU LEAVE ME NO CHOICE. I, THE TOWN DUELMASTER, HEREBY DECREE THAT KUSH HAS VIOLATED THE LAWS OF DUELMASTERY HERE IN LIQUIDIA.

THE PUNISHMENT IS...DEATH.

##vote kush


Curse you for making me do this.
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August 02 2014 03:29 GMT
#990
Request denied.

I will be handling tomorrow's duel...Personally.
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August 02 2014 06:17 GMT
#1002
Busy atm, can't talk.

##unvote

Not putting him at L-1 while I'm not here. I'd rather have some control over it at some point.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 02 2014 18:24 GMT
#1037
On August 03 2014 01:03 Vivax wrote:
So basically I'm accusing him of having suspicious knowledge.


Still don't think this matters. They're both town.

Also, since he won't be at L-1, I see no problem putting my vote back on kush.

##vote kush
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August 02 2014 18:45 GMT
#1039
I duel Yamato tomorrow, though.
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August 02 2014 19:16 GMT
#1042
The Duelmaster will take care of everything.
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August 03 2014 05:05 GMT
#1061
I was really hoping yamato would get like modkilled or something.
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August 03 2014 06:35 GMT
#1066
Every single player in the game thinks you're mafia and you haven't done anything to change their minds.

So everyone is dead-set on killing you. If that doesn't end the game, we all have to do stuff again.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 03 2014 20:13 GMT
#1071
I have to go to work by deadline, so...I'm probably not going to get to duel anyone this game.

I am disappoint.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 04 2014 07:05 GMT
#1080
##vote yamato

Batsnacks go vote yamato what the fuck are you doing.

Honestly, I don't have the energy to keep the Duelmaster shtick up, so sloosh is Duelmaster now.

Go you.
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August 04 2014 16:30 GMT
#1089
Cool.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 05 2014 01:56 GMT
#1112
Palmar led a lynch on mafia and has a spent role that he didn't claim.

Him not being dead is really weird, but until he claims I don't see anything wrong with it.

Sinani is easily a better lynch over fuba. Fuba is always kinda clueless/useless, but the couple of posts he made looked kinda towny.
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August 05 2014 01:57 GMT
#1113
Here be my lynch down list. Yes I'd lynch me before Obi / Palmar.


Sloosh this is the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me on this forum.

I...I think I love you.
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August 05 2014 02:26 GMT
#1115
On August 05 2014 11:04 batsnacks wrote:
Every time someone posts I think they are mafia. Someone tell a joke or something.


Might want to get some better reads then. >.>
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 05 2014 17:48 GMT
#1124
Lol I died.

Gg.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 08 2014 05:38 GMT
#1242
I'm honored that Damdred shot me instead of Palmar.

This game was a bunch of people worshipping the ground that I walked on, and I didn't even do anything. I was shot before Palmar, and he was the one catching mafia.

A shame we lost though. Props to Damdred because he played his cards really well when kush went after him. Lynching Damdred before kush would've been the way smarter move, but Damdred played his sympathy cards well.

Well-played.
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August 08 2014 05:43 GMT
#1243
Also, me getting shot over the people doing things should've sent some red flags up to the people that were reading the kush/Damdred duel.

D basically said "Obi and Palmar are both really good" and then both of us died. My death should've been telling since anyone else would've shot Sloosh.
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August 08 2014 16:07 GMT
#1251
On August 08 2014 18:28 marvellosity wrote:
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On August 08 2014 14:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also, me getting shot over the people doing things should've sent some red flags up to the people that were reading the kush/Damdred duel.

D basically said "Obi and Palmar are both really good" and then both of us died. My death should've been telling since anyone else would've shot Sloosh.

na i don't think so. because it could just be coincidence, and you could actually make a similar observation 10x more often and it end up being wrong.

edit: like as far as NKs go, that wasn't particularly extraordinary or noteworthy


No shut up though.
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