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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21980 Posts
July 30 2014 18:18 GMT
#441
On July 31 2014 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am saying you are either afraid to put marv into your "contribute or die" pile or you are scum with him. I don't see any other reason to make the list you did and not include him, because he literally has not said anything worth anything.

Also can you answer JAT?


He's null for the moment but did enough for me to not put him among the people not doing anything, and at least gave some opinions on the matters at hand, marv isn't the guy I feel confident reading early on anyway.


This is my explanation. Judge for yourself if it's worth being accepted.

And to display the hypocrisy in rain's argumentation, here's the list he used to enter the thread:

On July 30 2014 19:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Food break.

Cava supertown
Vivax seems scummy
Sloosh town
Holyflare likely town
kush might be town
justanothertownie could be mafia
Palmar's reads are terrible
kush very likely town
Sloosh is supertown
Sloosh you're dumb Palmar's list is meaningless and dumb
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
July 30 2014 18:20 GMT
#442
On July 31 2014 03:12 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally made a list where you call out possibly scum and lurkers who are also possibly scum. There is no reason marv should be on the "lurkers" list. None. If you make a list like you did you consider all the people and put them into categories.

Which means -> everyone not on that list are town for you because there is not another category possible.


And where is my mafia agenda in all of this? That list post was a spontaneous courtesy to tell the thread where I stand, if I didn't include marv for reasons that are my reasons and transparent enough for everyone to see, then you still have to tell me how what I did was scummy. All you're saying is "You didn't have good reasons to not include marv herpaderp", what you aren't saying is how specifically this is supposed to make me scum. Is marv my scumbuddy and I'm trying to keep my hands off of him? Cause that would be the closest you would have to a real reason for scumreading me for what I did or did not.

Let's just assume I am too dumb to see the reasons that are transparent. Would you tell me?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
July 30 2014 18:22 GMT
#443
Ok, you just answered repeating the same thing I asked you about. Good job.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
July 30 2014 18:22 GMT
#444
Whatever this leads nowhere.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21980 Posts
July 30 2014 18:23 GMT
#445
On July 31 2014 03:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 03:12 Vivax wrote:
On July 31 2014 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally made a list where you call out possibly scum and lurkers who are also possibly scum. There is no reason marv should be on the "lurkers" list. None. If you make a list like you did you consider all the people and put them into categories.

Which means -> everyone not on that list are town for you because there is not another category possible.


And where is my mafia agenda in all of this? That list post was a spontaneous courtesy to tell the thread where I stand, if I didn't include marv for reasons that are my reasons and transparent enough for everyone to see, then you still have to tell me how what I did was scummy. All you're saying is "You didn't have good reasons to not include marv herpaderp", what you aren't saying is how specifically this is supposed to make me scum. Is marv my scumbuddy and I'm trying to keep my hands off of him? Cause that would be the closest you would have to a real reason for scumreading me for what I did or did not.

Let's just assume I am too dumb to see the reasons that are transparent. Would you tell me?


If anything you're too dumb to see I'm town for all the other shit I did, so I'm not going to explicate it further and just let you do your own thing. Pick a side tomorrow when I call for a rayn vs me or a HF vs me and don't bother me further.

I didn't include marv cause he did more than all the other people I included as not doing anything, the reason is that simple. I've seen posts and opinions from marv, I didn't see them from the others. Period, now stop giving more importance to rayn's awful arguments than they deserve.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21980 Posts
July 30 2014 18:25 GMT
#446
As for rayn's hypocrisy: He comes into the thread with a list of utterly unexplained reads, but feels confident enough to scumread me for one missing read in one list post of mine, and even when I explain why he still scumreads me.

That is another reason for rayn being scum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 30 2014 18:26 GMT
#447
I don't get lynched as town if i don't want to so go ahead Vivax.
Hope you're scum. <3
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
July 30 2014 18:26 GMT
#448
On July 31 2014 03:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 03:20 justanothertownie wrote:
On July 31 2014 03:12 Vivax wrote:
On July 31 2014 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally made a list where you call out possibly scum and lurkers who are also possibly scum. There is no reason marv should be on the "lurkers" list. None. If you make a list like you did you consider all the people and put them into categories.

Which means -> everyone not on that list are town for you because there is not another category possible.


And where is my mafia agenda in all of this? That list post was a spontaneous courtesy to tell the thread where I stand, if I didn't include marv for reasons that are my reasons and transparent enough for everyone to see, then you still have to tell me how what I did was scummy. All you're saying is "You didn't have good reasons to not include marv herpaderp", what you aren't saying is how specifically this is supposed to make me scum. Is marv my scumbuddy and I'm trying to keep my hands off of him? Cause that would be the closest you would have to a real reason for scumreading me for what I did or did not.

Let's just assume I am too dumb to see the reasons that are transparent. Would you tell me?


If anything you're too dumb to see I'm town for all the other shit I did, so I'm not going to explicate it further and just let you do your own thing. Pick a side tomorrow when I call for a rayn vs me or a HF vs me and don't bother me further.

I didn't include marv cause he did more than all the other people I included as not doing anything, the reason is that simple. I've seen posts and opinions from marv, I didn't see them from the others. Period, now stop giving more importance to rayn's awful arguments than they deserve.

Oh, I am not scumreading you. But I am not sure that those duels would neccessarily be in towns best interest.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 30 2014 18:28 GMT
#449
does anyone know why vivax calls me mafia? i don't.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 30 2014 18:28 GMT
#450
Why is everything so cut and dry with you vivax
Take the stick out of your butt.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 30 2014 18:29 GMT
#451
Fully expect to die today btw
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 30 2014 18:32 GMT
#452
If marv uses the excuse "i didn't want to die n0" should prob lynch him too. He's evolved scum play to actually call ppl mafia now so couple that excuse with if he leads good lynch targets etc. He said he's evolved to always lynch mafia when he's sure so hold him to that
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 30 2014 18:33 GMT
#453
tbh the only reason i am even playing mafia atm is because i got proven right of being right when i am town in the last game i played. not gonna explain shit because no time. you can go ahead and duel me whenever you want to and i don't even give a fuck because people are also dumb (and don't read the thread).

I'm just gonna tell who is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 30 2014 18:34 GMT
#454
On July 31 2014 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
If marv uses the excuse "i didn't want to die n0" should prob lynch him too. He's evolved scum play to actually call ppl mafia now so couple that excuse with if he leads good lynch targets etc. He said he's evolved to always lynch mafia when he's sure so hold him to that

I'll tell if he is scum or town on D1. Unless some retard duels before 20h into D1.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21980 Posts
July 30 2014 18:42 GMT
#455
On July 31 2014 03:28 Holyflare wrote:
Why is everything so cut and dry with you vivax
Take the stick out of your butt.


That's my townie meta. I didn't call myself the drill sergeant for no reason, it's precisely cause I'm cut and dry as town, go into detail with most stuff, try to take matters into my own hand, and am very confrontational and active.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21980 Posts
July 30 2014 18:44 GMT
#456
That's why I can proudly say of myself to have won a lylo recently and have led a lynch on a mafia CR. I wasn't the guy realizing that he was mafia first, but I was the guy getting people to look at him and change their opinions.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 30 2014 18:51 GMT
#457
again why am i scum?
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21980 Posts
July 30 2014 18:57 GMT
#458
On July 31 2014 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
again why am i scum?


You called me scum for no reason and HF town in my list post when everyone with a genuine mindset could see that what he was doing was scummy. Kush had a reaction to our exchange I would consider to be townie, cause he was the right things.

Then you cowardly said I had 10 scumreads, no point behind it except malicious discrediting, especially after it turned out you had the same opinion as me on these guys, so no townie mindset behind that comment.

Then you tried to blow me not including marv into something scummy when I delivered a reasonable explanation for it, and you only explained why it was supposed to be scummy when I forced you to do it. So no real intent in proving to the thread how that actually makes me scum.

Overall malicious, dishonest play and a view of the game that doesn't reflect the right mindset.
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 30 2014 19:01 GMT
#459
I'd bomb batsnacks or Damdred. Batsnack's scummy and is a clear liability if he's going to continue playing like this. He's done literally nothing useful all game. Damdred hasn't contributed much of anything, and is super-wishy washy with what reads he does give.

Most of the lurkers at this point have become or promised to be more active, so I'd be inclined to give them a chance. Fuba doesn't count as he's looking like he's getting modkilled.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 30 2014 19:05 GMT
#460
On July 31 2014 03:57 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
again why am i scum?


You called me scum for no reason and HF town in my list post when everyone with a genuine mindset could see that what he was doing was scummy. Kush had a reaction to our exchange I would consider to be townie, cause he was the right things.

incorrect

Then you cowardly said I had 10 scumreads, no point behind it except malicious discrediting, especially after it turned out you had the same opinion as me on these guys, so no townie mindset behind that comment.

incorrect

Then you tried to blow me not including marv into something scummy when I delivered a reasonable explanation for it, and you only explained why it was supposed to be scummy when I forced you to do it. So no real intent in proving to the thread how that actually makes me scum.

incorrect

Overall malicious, dishonest play and a view of the game that doesn't reflect the right mindset.

meh.. words that mean nothing.

Also points 2-4 had not happened when you called me scum so is this another Titanic III ? ^_^
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