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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 29 2014 23:32 GMT
#178
On July 30 2014 08:25 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 07:57 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 07:54 kushm4sta wrote:
On July 30 2014 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 07:42 Vivax wrote:
I'm saying that you didn't give a satisfactory answer as to how sure you are about me being scum just based on my former reasoning.

Do you have the guts?


I think you're confusing guts with being retarded. You yourself agreed with my complaint about games degrading and not being analytical but the moment i start with analysis why do you try and sidetrack that instead of just refuting what i said and in fact avoiding any real analysis with some useless "do you have the guts question"?

Very bad vivax


um ok so first vivax is too tryhard, must be scum..
now vivax is sidetracking analysis?
those seem like contradictory points.

Furthermore I would not describe vivax's play as either of those things.


No. Selectively picking out something and making it seem like it's different and then writing a longer paragraph than needed on it = try hard. Scummy.

Vivax then sidetracks MY analysis on his post to a silly question which he would know there's only one real answer to. Scummy.

Then he keeps talking about dueling me tomorrow instead of discussing why something is wrong ot right or why specifically he picked sloosh out of 3 people that posted similarly. Scummy.



HF case on vivax:
1. tryhard "longer paragraph" on sloosh's fake duel
it wasn't even near a paragraph. Vivax looks like he was just doing his due diligence pressuring earlygame derp. plus your statement that it was the same as ritoky is not true, because fake dueling is closer to something very harmful to town like fake claiming. ritoky just said random shit.

2. he keeps talking about dueling you tomorrow/sidetracking analysis
he mentioned dueling you only once in a very indirect way.
how is he sidetracking analysis when all he did was answer your joke with another short joke..
you say : how much do you scumread me?
he says : 5 much
you say : do you have the guts to duel me
that is sidetracking analysis??


The first sentence has already taken the edge away from the original analysis thus sidetracked it by not answering it and instead asking another question that has a more than obvious response for 30 minutes into a game. Fake duelling is so troll it's obvious and incomparable to fake claiming. Vivax posted why now and it's acceptable though so I'll just let him carry on because if he is mafia he won't be able to keep it up.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 29 2014 23:33 GMT
#179
On July 30 2014 08:31 Palmar wrote:
I am 100% sure HF is mafia, but with the caveat that he might not be. I refuse to explain this.


You just got shot n1 after afking as town and it was said you normally get shot n1 too. So why post the afk?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 29 2014 23:35 GMT
#181
On July 30 2014 08:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On July 30 2014 08:25 Holyflare wrote:
He's too cocky at the moment so we'll see. Pretty towny though. Will check world cup or w/e tomorrow.
On July 30 2014 08:16 Vivax wrote:
On July 30 2014 08:15 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 08:09 kushm4sta wrote:
HF, i like the reasons why you are calling vivax scum, but I don't think those reasons apply to vivax. It scares me about your alignment because it's like you know what makes someone scummy but you are misapplying it.
Set up talk is bad? I'd say it's not alignment indicative usually, but I think there is an optimal way to play this setup and if discussion can bring us towards that, it is productive and protown.


How do those 2 go together? If you like the reasons then surely that means they are accurate and not misapplied? Why do they not apply to vivax?


It's pretty simple to explain actually, he thinks you're using sound reason to scumread somebody, but he doesn't think that those reasons to me. Further explanation doesn't seem necessary since in theory you should be more capable of understand english than me.


Thanks for answering for another player. Why are you not disagreeing with this quote then seeing as apparently everything I've said is a misrepresentation and wrong but instead answering his intentions? Why does it not apply to you?


Check World Cup before Day. Post what you think here.

It's important.


Already did.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 29 2014 23:36 GMT
#182
On July 30 2014 08:35 Palmar wrote:
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On July 30 2014 08:33 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 08:31 Palmar wrote:
I am 100% sure HF is mafia, but with the caveat that he might not be. I refuse to explain this.


You just got shot n1 after afking as town and it was said you normally get shot n1 too. So why post the afk?

Stop posting please so the thread remains readable.


If you don't want to read a thread with actual posting of content and questioning then go away back to your shitty afk
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 29 2014 23:55 GMT
#186
On July 30 2014 08:42 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 08:36 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 08:35 Palmar wrote:
On July 30 2014 08:33 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 08:31 Palmar wrote:
I am 100% sure HF is mafia, but with the caveat that he might not be. I refuse to explain this.


You just got shot n1 after afking as town and it was said you normally get shot n1 too. So why post the afk?

Stop posting please so the thread remains readable.


If you don't want to read a thread with actual posting of content and questioning then go away back to your shitty afk

I understand I'm sort of enabling you by responding. But if you are town, you should know that most people don't actually read 300 pages of game content. I know you do, but I also know not nearly everyone does.

When I am mafia, I want nothing more than the thread ending up at least 100 pages on day 1. It ensures town isn't actively looking into specific things, just sort of goes along with some hive-mind mentality. It is far better if townies agree to consolidate posts and only point out important things that need pointing out.

So, yes, I understand you enjoy spamming as much as you can. But I'm asking you to try not to. Spamming is far less effective than it used to be anyway, due to people actually picking up on the fact that for a while we just assumed everyone who spammed was town.


For you to say this implies that what I'm doing in the thread currently is "not productive" which is silly and trivial and just not true. If that's the case then you aren't reading the thread and your afk attitude is far more detrimental to a game than someone 'spamming' it.

You've come here and ignored everything that's happened so far to write "afk" and then some spiel that you could have done pre-game. That's not good at all. You've also criticised my spam but the 3 posts that you've made so far are all spam and useless.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2014 00:05 GMT
#190
On July 30 2014 09:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't really care if you think I'm forced or not.

What an asinine thing to say.


Please don't downgrade it to this level this game. If you think it's a bad thing to say reason out why it's bad. If it's a scummy thing say it's scummy. Don't just throw out the randomness.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2014 00:08 GMT
#196
Those 2 explanations are nothing alike. One is full of fluff and the other explains why you specifically picked out sloosh and why.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2014 00:15 GMT
#202
Holyflare is trying to create something out of nothing. I guess that could be townflare, but he's overly confrontational and it's giving me bad vibes. Especially his completely ridiculous calling out of what was a very easily understandable sentence by Kushm4sta. If Kush is mafia, this is not why.


The best way to read kush quickly is to get him to elaborate on everything he is saying and make sure it's fully reasoned out. Thanks for inadvertent flaming mid post though. Keep up the hate!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2014 00:20 GMT
#208
On July 30 2014 09:11 Vivax wrote:
Whatever I shouldn't waste time arguing with scum. This can only be solved during the day.


I'm not really arguing. Your first post is fluffy for the time it was stated as people were doing similar things. Your second post is articulated why specifically sloosh's post relates to your fluffy post.

Which makes sense. Hence why i said what i said.

Palmar you played with ritoky in cell and he's pretty similar or do you not remember freedom joking?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2014 00:23 GMT
#211
On July 30 2014 09:11 Vivax wrote:
Whatever I shouldn't waste time arguing with scum. This can only be solved during the day.


Forgot to add that you should stop tunneling your inner koshi.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2014 00:24 GMT
#212
Channeling...
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2014 00:28 GMT
#217
On July 30 2014 09:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 09:23 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 09:11 Vivax wrote:
Whatever I shouldn't waste time arguing with scum. This can only be solved during the day.


Forgot to add that you should stop tunneling your inner koshi.

Koshi nailed you though.


With logic.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2014 00:32 GMT
#220
Vivax it's just that i lost interest after you answered. Nothing more. I've made cases like that all the time at the start of a game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2014 00:34 GMT
#223
Like it's fine. I've dropped it and said it was fine and then you keep posting about it saying that I'm so mafia and you don't want to continue to just argue... After I've said it's fine? Are you just looking for me to spam more? There's other ways to read you that are easier than getting involved in this further discussion.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2014 00:35 GMT
#224
On July 30 2014 09:33 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 09:32 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax it's just that i lost interest after you answered. Nothing more. I've made cases like that all the time at the start of a game.


What do you mean with "cases like that".

What category does your case fall into that I don't know of.


Cases that are early with no proper questioning (although i kind of did question) and assuredness that the person is mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2014 00:38 GMT
#226
On July 30 2014 08:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I think Palmar is town.

Anyone disagree?


What made you say this by the way because i got the opposite feeling till he posted his read thing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2014 00:41 GMT
#230
Excuse me while i try and drag tl from the depths of contentless accusations and into a world where people try and play mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2014 00:43 GMT
#232
On July 30 2014 09:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 09:38 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 08:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I think Palmar is town.

Anyone disagree?


What made you say this by the way because i got the opposite feeling till he posted his read thing.


His concern of you drowning the thread in high-quantity posting showed concern for having a good town atmosphere.

I think that's a towny thing to think. Why did you think the opposite?


Because it implies what i was doing in the thread previously was useless and is very easy to post to "show concern" as that requires no effort aka easy for mafia to do. Especially when all of his filter was spam. Hypocrisy. Either way. I think I'm going to come around to his ritoky read.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2014 00:50 GMT
#234
On July 30 2014 09:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 09:43 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 09:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 30 2014 09:38 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 08:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I think Palmar is town.

Anyone disagree?


What made you say this by the way because i got the opposite feeling till he posted his read thing.


His concern of you drowning the thread in high-quantity posting showed concern for having a good town atmosphere.

I think that's a towny thing to think. Why did you think the opposite?


Because it implies what i was doing in the thread previously was useless and is very easy to post to "show concern" as that requires no effort aka easy for mafia to do. Especially when all of his filter was spam. Hypocrisy. Either way. I think I'm going to come around to his ritoky read.


I don't see how that implies anything. You are, by nature, an incredibly high-volume, high-activity poster. Why is it that his concern for the number of your posts is a bad thing? I understand that that post could be replicated by a mafia, but I don't get why you don't put any stock into it.


Palmar is good at mafia. I'm a high volume poster in every game. This is the first time he's ever made a post like that so it's different and very odd as he's only said it now in a game where he's guilty of spamming himself.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2014 00:56 GMT
#237
On July 30 2014 09:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 09:50 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 09:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 30 2014 09:43 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 09:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 30 2014 09:38 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 08:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I think Palmar is town.

Anyone disagree?


What made you say this by the way because i got the opposite feeling till he posted his read thing.


His concern of you drowning the thread in high-quantity posting showed concern for having a good town atmosphere.

I think that's a towny thing to think. Why did you think the opposite?


Because it implies what i was doing in the thread previously was useless and is very easy to post to "show concern" as that requires no effort aka easy for mafia to do. Especially when all of his filter was spam. Hypocrisy. Either way. I think I'm going to come around to his ritoky read.


I don't see how that implies anything. You are, by nature, an incredibly high-volume, high-activity poster. Why is it that his concern for the number of your posts is a bad thing? I understand that that post could be replicated by a mafia, but I don't get why you don't put any stock into it.


Palmar is good at mafia. I'm a high volume poster in every game. This is the first time he's ever made a post like that so it's different and very odd as he's only said it now in a game where he's guilty of spamming himself.

Palmar is spamming? I don't think so. And his request is reasonable. Do you think it makes him scum?


Spam as in contentless posts. When he posted that all he had said was holyflare is 100% mafia (in which case why would he make the post asking me not to spam?) and useless afking. So it should have been suspicious to a lot of people. Really though i just wanted cav to expand on his reasoning for things because i like when people give reasons. (palmars read post turned me around on him)
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