EPTIV Titanic Mafia: It Has Been a Privilege
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On July 22 2014 07:06 kushm4sta wrote: it is 100% cheating. it is the worst form of cheating. plynch is not a solution, because then they just won't tell anyone. Cheaters get lynched easy enough. | ||
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On July 22 2014 11:34 kushm4sta wrote: we don't have to, but there should be a rule against it. and if it is suspected that someone did not read their role, we should check scum qt to make sure they conversed with the scum team. And if they did not, they will receive a 5 game ban. Really? I mean I can't comprehend why this is an issue at all. I know you think it worked for you last game but, seriously, this doesn't work. | ||
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I could see how it could maybe make sense in a small setup with zero power roles on day 1 only but... even then people will probably just lynch you for it (I would). As soon as power roles enter into the picture by not reading your role you are risking throwing out all the tools your team may have for winning in exchange for... being unreadable? That doesn't make sense. | ||
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On July 22 2014 13:45 GlowingBear wrote: I don't get if you are ok with the rule against not reading the pm or if you don't like it. Check how twitterverse game was completely dumbed down because CR didn't read the pm. People got him lynched and he was mafia. Now the game is spoiled because of that. It's like playing dota but picking no heroes. Of course people will lynch someone who does that. But it is not playing. They're just excluding someone who's spoiling the game. They are wasting a lynch they could have use on an actual read I'm okay with it because I like to believe people learn from their (strategic) mistakes when they make them. We don't need the mods to enforce a perfect Nash Equilibrium level of play every game. | ||
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On July 22 2014 14:21 kushm4sta wrote: ok.. 1 no one would lynch you for it, because you don't tell anyone you are doing it. 2 the optimal way to do it is not look at your role pm d1, then near the end of n1 look at your role pm to see if you have a pr. if you are scum do not look at who is on your scumteam. I know you come from epicmafia where mechanics play a big role because games are so short. But I think games with longer days tend to be more about reads of players' behaviors and logic, which you can't do to someone who doesn't know their role/doesn't know their scumteam. All of this seems like a really bad way of overcoming nerves. I don't come from epicmafia. Like, if you get nervous playing scum and you're worried you'll mess up (to the point where you don't even want to read your role PM), why not just play for real until you don't get nervous anymore? Are you going to keep relying on a dumb gimmick that will probably get you lynched just because you get nervous? inb4 protoss jokes | ||
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On July 22 2014 15:59 kushm4sta wrote: how do you catch mafia, batsnacks? wait for dt checks? I put all your names in a hat and let Jesus take the wheel. | ||
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Chopin isn't roleplaying, he's rhyming. Neither historical Chopin or Liszt was a poet and their music didn't have lyrics. Therefor I vote HaruRH for voting for non-reasons. ##Vote: HaruRH | ||
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On July 23 2014 06:29 Xatalos wrote: HaruRH - don't remember him, not really for or against lynching him D1 Koshi - against lynching him D1 teemursu - see HaruRH Chopin Liszt - see HaruRH VayneAuthority - I have some bad memories of him literally claiming scum as town, so he might be a policy lynch again, but hopefully not raynpelikoneet - definitely not a D1 lynch unless he somehow is really scummy (doubtful regardless of his alignment) ObiWanShinobi - see HaruRH Navillus - see HaruRH GlowingBear - see HaruRH kushm4sta - hmmm.... I think he's quite a good scum player so I'd rather see until later to judge him Chairman Ray - see HaruRH Vivax - no special feelings towards him although I do remember that he was pretty obviously scummy in one game, we'll see batsnacks - see HaruRH Damdred - could be scum based on my initial gut feeling Palmar - see raynpelikoneet Here I colored your post for you because I wanted to see what it would look like with slightly more effort. | ||
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On July 23 2014 09:47 Chairman Ray wrote: It doesn't sit right with me that Xatalos made a case on himself saying that he's an asset as town, but tends to reveal himself late game if he's mafia. There's only scum motive behind saying something like this, but would scum actually say it? +1 This also concerns me: On July 23 2014 06:29 Xatalos wrote: VayneAuthority - I have some bad memories of him literally claiming scum as town, so he might be a policy lynch again, but hopefully not Damdred - could be scum based on my initial gut feeling Low hanging fruit. | ||
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On July 23 2014 11:32 HaruRH wrote: Xatalos looks infinitely more scummy than damdred. I would rather lynch xatalos and plynch liszt today over lynching into a scum that I am not confident of. So, I asked you about Damdred and you responded with thoughts on Xatalos and Chopin, the two biggest "wagons." I want to talk about Damdred. You said Xatalos is scummier than him, does that mean you think Damdred is scummy? | ||
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On July 23 2014 12:55 kushm4sta wrote: placeholder in case i dont wake up before eod But why is your placeholder on HaruRH as opposed to anyone else? You voted him. That means he's special. Why's he special? | ||
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On July 24 2014 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: If anyone thinks that's a scumread you should be 1600% sure Xatalos is mafia and vote for him immediately. Sorry I'm an idiot. Could you explain why? | ||
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On July 24 2014 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: where does he say vayneauthority is mafia? here, i quote it to you: I meant could you explain why if xatalos is scumreading vayne we should be sure xatalos is mafia and vote him. | ||
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On July 24 2014 01:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: now can you explain where xatalos says vayne is scum? Can you explain where he said I was town? | ||
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On July 24 2014 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: let's lynch all the people who said VA is Xatalos' scumread? jjust because that was so bad. Palmar you in? rayn please look at this post: On July 23 2014 09:45 batsnacks wrote: Here I colored your post for you because I wanted to see what it would look like with slightly more effort. I really want you to understand without having to explain it to you. | ||
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On July 24 2014 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah you made VA's name red! <3 now explain why? The only real read xatalos gave in that post was on damdred. Now look what I did again. | ||
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On July 24 2014 05:19 Chopin Liszt wrote: Re: superficial. For instance. You reach the conclusion, apparently extremely strongly here (mafiamafiamafiamafia) that Vayne is mafia for his post. Yet nowhere in your explanation do you allow for the fact that he could just be a terrible townie. You don't need meta (other than having played the game of mafia before) to know that there exist terrible townies. But there's no consideration for this here. There are other instances too, which I'll bring up if I decide that we're going to lynch you. But that isn't the case just yet. You've posted quite a lot, which makes me wary. But your suspicions in general I don't like. You can buy my favour by voting batsnacks the fake composer with me. Just last night I caught him trying to copy my work. Chopin If by trying to copy your work you mean I halted your inappropriate sexual advances, then yes, you're right. | ||
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On July 24 2014 08:25 Palmar wrote: ##unvote ##vote VayneAuthority Palmar, don't vote him. | ||
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On July 24 2014 09:53 kushm4sta wrote: he's not reading the thread so i doubt he will see this post, not that it would have swayed him anyway, I don't believe any of that. | ||
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##Vote: xatalos Someone ask me questions I feel scummy. But make sure they're nice questions or I'll probably just ignore them. | ||
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On July 24 2014 09:55 kushm4sta wrote: u think he's lying about not reading the thread? I am confident he will read that post eventually and if he doesn't, no harm done anyway. I don't think vayne is in any danger of being lynched I've seen him do this before and people didn't care. | ||
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On July 24 2014 10:34 VayneAuthority wrote: pretty much happens a lot. I got better things to do then pretend to be able to read people off of nothing. Ill show up for late game like usual if needed. Do you know who you're going to vote today yet? | ||
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I'm just asking because HaruRH's first couple posts made me think he was scum too. I made a jab at him with my first post, then you called him scum and he completely ignored both of us; which I thought might be an indicator that he was trying to hide. It wasn't anything serious but I felt like it was worth pushing a little. He responded though and made sense so I decided to drop it. | ||
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On July 24 2014 20:12 Xatalos wrote: It was batsnacks who simply sheeped the case. Who should I vote if not you? Maybe I'll listen to you. | ||
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No. I already declared I wouldn't be voting him this game. Pick someone else. | ||
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On July 24 2014 20:14 Vivax wrote: Discuss the alternatives and pro and cons of lynching Xatalos if you got the brain matter to make an insightful, complete post. Be nice when you ask or I'll ignore you. | ||
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On July 24 2014 20:19 Vivax wrote: You can also simply post in a way that makes you more readable and prove you got the brain matter. Pleaaaase? Yeah I'm more than a little tired of playing with people who just call each other idiots all game. It makes me want to troll those people, but I'm trying to behave. You can try again day 2 assuming you get the chance. | ||
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On July 24 2014 21:27 Xatalos wrote: Well, you're voting for Damdred, but you've been mostly talking about batsnacks. You tell him xatalos. | ||
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##unvote ##vote: Xatalos | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:03 Xatalos wrote: batsnacks, don't you have anything else to say about this whole event other than your vote..? Yeah but I'm phone posting so I doubt anyone will ever hear it unfortunately. | ||
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This is my last phone post too difficult | ||
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Also in the future... Extend the voting deadline... Don't shorten it. | ||
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On July 25 2014 11:14 VayneAuthority wrote: and here begins when I start reading the thread again, not held accountable for anything before this and my last post Hello friend. I appreciate that you came back to the thread earlier and changed your vote from HaruRH like you said you would... even if I don't agree with the navilus lynch. | ||
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On July 25 2014 12:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't really know, and that's the problem. I think that VA is right when he pointed out how difficult that lynch was for a lot of people. Looking back, even if I had tons of time and showed up way earlier than I did, I'm still not sure who I would have lynched instead. Would Vivax have been an option, in retrospect? | ||
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On July 25 2014 12:47 VayneAuthority wrote: bored so made a list post completely null - palmar, chopin, rayn hard to believe they are scum based on meta - koshi, vivax scum plausibles - CR, HaruH, xatalos who are they - damdred, batsnacks, obiwan, glowingbear kush - kush some guy that raged at me - teemursu Palmar voted you then afked for the rest of the day; and if memory serves me correctly, he was the only one to vote you all day. I'd like to know your thoughts on that if you can spare them. | ||
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On July 25 2014 13:50 kushm4sta wrote: i dont like how palmar keeps saying "dont vig me" why not Because. He'd be mad. "Seriously." | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:40 batsnacks wrote: Also I'd like to point out rain pelican he is dead Boom headshot | ||
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No. It was me shooting him. | ||
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I shot rayne | ||
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No I didn't realize that, good for him. ##vote: vayneauthority Have another look at my crappy breadcrumb attempt On July 25 2014 00:40 batsnacks wrote: Also I'd like to point out rain pelican he is | ||
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On July 26 2014 06:21 Chairman Ray wrote: Can you and Vayne confirm for us if there is a scum vig? I'm the pianist. Miller-vigilante. | ||
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On July 26 2014 06:25 Xatalos wrote: Self-aware Miller? Really? "Really?" is the rhetorical equivalent of soiling yourself in confusion. You should never say it. It's almost as bad as saying "SERIOUSLY???" | ||
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On July 26 2014 06:42 Xatalos wrote: How did you decide to shoot rayn though, batsnacks? I usually shoot who I think is the biggest jerk. | ||
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On July 22 2014 19:48 batsnacks wrote: I put all your names in a hat and let Jesus take the wheel. | ||
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On July 26 2014 06:46 Xatalos wrote: BH will be so happy if this game is won through Vigi RNG. Jesus isn't RNG he just works in mysterious ways sometimes. | ||
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pelican - pelikon neet - ??? I was going to say rain pelican eater but I didn't. Maybe next time. | ||
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On July 26 2014 06:55 Koshi wrote: Yeah but you said it during D1. It wasn't even night yet. I had already decided by the end of day 1. Night posts are usually shit anyway I didn't bother to read most of them. | ||
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On July 26 2014 14:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm pretty sure I actually wound up rehashing some shit that other people said. The fuck, is there anything for me to talk about in this game? I don't know what the vote count looks like but if you haven't voted vayne yet you should either vote him or explain why not. | ||
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On July 26 2014 14:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't see a single reason to vote vayne other than the fact that he really hasn't done anything. And it's still pretty early, so I don't want to until later at the very least. He looks like he's been acting the exact same way during Order so idrk. He said he shot rayn though. And I shot rayn. Which means he didn't. | ||
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On July 26 2014 14:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote: He retracted his claim. Besides, that claim doesn't make sense to make as scum. You get rid of a confirmed town and die immediately after, and a 1 for 1 trade is never good for mafia. Town lies for bad/stupid reasons, like taking a hit or what the fuck ever, so I don't see the claim as alignment indicative unless he's actually going to stick with it and waste our time lynching him for nothing. If you actually think he's scum, then you need reasons and a case. A nonsensical counterclaim is not a case. I retract my claim. I didn't shoot rayn. Do you believe me? | ||
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Which... no he didn't. | ||
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On July 26 2014 16:04 Teemursu wrote: I'm catching up slowly, can someone make me a quick recap of things? VA claimed vigi I claimed vigi VA is scum Vote him immediately. | ||
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On July 26 2014 16:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote: No, that doesn't make any sense. That just means mafia counterclaims later for real. There's nothing stopping mafia from counterclaiming a spent vigilante later on because he has no way to confirm himself besides his one shot. If batsnacks had another shot, he could just shoot VA at night if he was seriously counterclaiming and then the counterclaim being serious still doesn't make any sense. Also, you have no idea what the blue roles do. For all you know, they could be a bunch of BoxeRs. The chance of having a bunch of counterclaim wars in LYLO, if we ever get to it, is incredibly high provided the roles don't get completely wiped out. Do you believe VA knew with 100% confidence that I was the vigilante, even though it is a semi-closed setup, after day 1 only? | ||
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On July 26 2014 16:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't think it matters either way. But I will say that if he actually figured out that you had a role, you would've died at night. Also, I don't see how my reaction to this implies what my alignment is one way or the other. Well I thank you for your gift of an easy day 3. Assuming I'm left alive. | ||
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On July 26 2014 16:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I still don't get it. You believed this. On July 26 2014 08:12 VayneAuthority wrote: I thought batsnacks town read me, i knew he was the real vig zz. why would I claim fake shot as mafia with only 2 mafia left? I rescind the claim. So I vote you tomorrow. It's simple. | ||
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On July 26 2014 16:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I never said that I believed it either way, I am simply stating the facts regarding your non-case and they don't make sense. But if you're really going to vote me for non-reasons then I simply don't see the point of trying to convince you of anything. I need you to say whether you believe what VA said or not. That's what I asked you. The answer to that question is what I want you to say. | ||
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I'm trying to be really clear here: On July 26 2014 08:12 VayneAuthority wrote: I thought batsnacks town read me, i knew he was the real vig zz. why would I claim fake shot as mafia with only 2 mafia left? I rescind the claim. Do you believe VayneWuthority knew I was the real vig at the time of this posting? | ||
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On July 22 2014 00:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: You guys will have enough trouble with 13 townies, let alone 10. I bet if there had been 13 there would have been no janitor. But since there are 16, the janitor was added. | ||
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On July 26 2014 17:48 Xatalos wrote: ? I think this setup works like this: If there are 13> players: There is not janitor. If there are 16>= players: There is a janitor. | ||
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On July 27 2014 06:05 Chopin Liszt wrote: 1000x harder when there's no vote counts -.- The hosts are just making things authentic. There were no fancy vote counts in 1912 people had to count votes themselves. | ||
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On July 27 2014 06:19 Koshi wrote: HF has said nothing new and is just townreading people. Is the scumteam Chopin + unknown one or something? It's Obiwan and Xatalos. | ||
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On July 27 2014 06:42 Xatalos wrote: You managed to shoot rayn so I'll refrain from further insults. I'll just mention that your read on me sucks and getting stuck on it will hinder you from finding actual scum. And making posts like that is in no way helpful to that goal. If you were to say "your read sucks because <reason>" I might listen, but probably not. In case... Not listening. | ||
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On July 27 2014 06:49 Xatalos wrote: If you knew my meta you would understand. I've never posted even nearly this much as scum. And I don't really spam as scum either, I prefer to make more well thought-out posts. So you're town because you posted a lot and my read sucks because I don't think posting a lot makes you town. Yeah that's not doing it for me sorry. | ||
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On July 27 2014 09:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Batsnacks I really need you to stop listening to the Marvborg because Holyflare is straight up lying about my meta at this point. If you sheep anyone this game, sheep Koshi. Ignore everything that Marv/HF say and just go from there. I don't know who marvborg is but I'm not sheeping anyone. I think you're mafia because you won't vote vayne it's that simple. | ||
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On July 27 2014 11:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Do you ever sit down and realize that your analysis makes absolutely no sense to anyone but yourself? Seriously, I can't even wrap my head around how unbelievably bad and useless it is. You aren't even basing your reads off of things. You need to be nice or I'm going to ignore you. Don't you think it's weird how often I'm right considering how "unbelievably bad and useless" my analysis is? | ||
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On July 27 2014 11:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm being nice. I am also being factual. Basing your reads off of unflipped players isn't going to help anyone; regardless of what VA flips, you don't really have any insight into what my alignment is. I beg to differ. I am extremely confident the last mafia are in vayne, you, Xatalos, and chopin. There are only 2 scum left. Scum will avoid voting themselves or their team at all costs at this point because if one of them gets lynched today, the game is effectively over. You are refusing to vote vayne for reasons that don't make sense to me, so I think you and vayne are mafia. I'm pretty sure we already had this conversation last night. You still believe that vayne, somehow, knew I was the vigilante all along right? | ||
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On July 27 2014 11:46 Koshi wrote: Too many townies are against his Chopin lynch. I might be wrong. Please vote vayne. I will happily eat my words and apologize to everyone if I'm wrong... but I'm pretty sure I'm right. | ||
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On July 27 2014 11:51 Koshi wrote: ##Vote: Vayne Authority I still think it is more likely VA / Marv or Xatalos / marv  Thanks friend If I'm wrong you can pick who I vote tomorrow if you want. | ||
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On July 26 2014 08:13 GlowingBear wrote: TBH I'm kinda convinced VA is scum. + Show Spoiler + On July 24 2014 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: i can give you a hint. palmar is town, so is VA. damdred and batsnacks look like mafia. On July 24 2014 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: i gotta look into the other ppl who said VA is scum. that read was so fkn terrible. literally the terriblest thing in this game. Two posts from rayn that made me think of VA being scum. Looks like he was trying to defend him. There are more posts where rayn defends VA. Putting VA's name next to palmar... Palmar flips green and there you go, "rayn said it!!!" I want to see Vayne's claim. But I'm voting him for now. ##Vote: VayneAuthority | ||
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On July 27 2014 13:57 GlowingBear wrote: You really believe I am scum with marv? You really believe that? I am hard pushing Xatalos since the beginning of the game and he was defending him. How I am related to ShoppingList in any way? Koshi, come on. GlowingBear now that the votes have been posted I'm noticing you have your vote on Xatalos who I also scum read. I will make you a deal. We can vote Xatalos tomorrow together if you vote vayne today. | ||
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On July 27 2014 14:56 GlowingBear wrote: Tell me why there is no chance of Vayne being a cop and we may have a deal. I have considered that and admittedly it's a worry. I just don't believe a cop would counter claim the vigilante. If vayne is the cop and checked me last night, he shouldn't have counter claimed me. I really don't see how he left me any choice but to vote him. | ||
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On July 27 2014 23:51 Vivax wrote: What did you think in Storm when you saw my case against Damdred, Koshi? The day you didn't lynch me and Damdred instead. You said something like, "it's very sheepable." Now imagine scum CR making a similar case. The scum motive behind Vayne's play is there, it totally sounds like that could be the scum motive, but you don't know and CR puts it as if it was the only possible motive. It just doesn't sit right with me, and this guy is just as inactive as Vayne, he just tries harder to look active. What did you think about CRs case on xatalos day 1? | ||
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On July 28 2014 00:09 Vivax wrote: Anyway it's a massive dumpster scum case, and most people sheeped it and believed it just for all that effort I put into it, and all the scum motives I made up. Yet at the end of a 200 pages game, I only had like 6 pages of filter, and nobody imagined me being scum (not knowing my town meta well). You could have just said "I think all of CRs cases this game are huge scummy dumpster cases." I mean I can see how someone would think that and I can see that it might be true. | ||
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On July 28 2014 00:33 Xatalos wrote: Everything wasn't fine D1 though before the switching. It would have been me, an active poster, lynched instead of Navillus, who barely did anything. On July 24 2014 04:36 Palmar wrote: Koshi|3576 Vivax|3230 Navillus|2906 Teemursu|2837 Xatalos|2132 raynpelikoneet|2017 These are the players that have written more than 2000 words in this game. I think we should just not lynch them. nav was more active than you. | ||
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On July 28 2014 00:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If VA flips scum I'm going to laugh at batsnacks. We are all sheeping batsnacks, btw. You guys probably shouldn't make a habit of this... but I really think vayne is mafia. | ||
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I might mess around with this idea more in future games. | ||
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I sometimes have weird approaches to this game. | ||
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On July 28 2014 03:48 GlowingBear wrote: They would. Scum got little luck this game. Chopin shot prepared passenger Koshi. Batsnacks asked Jesus to kill Rayn for no particular reason it seems. Mafia got our doc, though. Maybe it was really town favoured... I didn't RNG the shot. This was true: On July 26 2014 06:43 batsnacks wrote: I usually shoot who I think is the biggest jerk. | ||
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