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On July 24 2014 03:31 Vivax wrote: ...he skips over the palmar case until I ask him about it, claims that navi is town... vivax can you show me how exactly this happened, because i don't see it this way. gimme your perspective plz.
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On July 24 2014 03:35 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 24 2014 03:28 batsnacks wrote:On July 24 2014 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: let's lynch all the people who said VA is Xatalos' scumread? jjust because that was so bad.
Palmar you in? rayn please look at this post: On July 23 2014 09:45 batsnacks wrote:On July 23 2014 06:29 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 06:18 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 23 2014 06:16 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 06:10 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 23 2014 06:09 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 06:06 Chairman Ray wrote: The exchange between Xatalos and Koshi is the most awkward and forced conversation I have ever seen, especially this:
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If we had two lynches, I'd lynch them both.
##Vote: Xatalos I don't think it's a good idea to lynch either of us for D1. Generally speaking. What does this mean? Koshi can look scummy during D1 as town so it's not usually a good time to lynch him. I'm generally active regardless of my alignment, and I become a (somewhat) valuable asset throughout the game as town and I tend to reveal myself more easily later on as scum (+leaving material to work with). Neither of us are ideal D1 lynches. Interesting. Why don't you give us a list of acceptable day 1 lynches then, friend? HaruRH - don't remember him, not really for or against lynching him D1 Koshi - against lynching him D1 teemursu - see HaruRH Chopin Liszt - see HaruRH VayneAuthority - I have some bad memories of him literally claiming scum as town, so he might be a policy lynch again, but hopefully not raynpelikoneet - definitely not a D1 lynch unless he somehow is really scummy (doubtful regardless of his alignment) ObiWanShinobi - see HaruRH Navillus - see HaruRH GlowingBear - see HaruRH kushm4sta - hmmm.... I think he's quite a good scum player so I'd rather see until later to judge him Chairman Ray - see HaruRH Vivax - no special feelings towards him although I do remember that he was pretty obviously scummy in one game, we'll see batsnacks - see HaruRH Damdred - could be scum based on my initial gut feeling Palmar - see raynpelikoneet Here I colored your post for you because I wanted to see what it would look like with slightly more effort. I really want you to understand without having to explain it to you. yeah you made VA's name red! <3 now explain why? The only real read xatalos gave in that post was on damdred. Now look what I did again. yes. and that means i am right, right? and you are scum or an idiot no?
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On July 24 2014 03:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:I still need an explanation as to why you're scumreading/voting me. and i need an explanation why you seem to pop in only just when someone calls you mafia lately?
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On July 24 2014 04:40 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 04:36 Palmar wrote: Koshi|3576 Vivax|3230 Navillus|2906 Teemursu|2837 Xatalos|2132 raynpelikoneet|2017
These are the players that have written more than 2000 words in this game. I think we should just not lynch them. I disagree, high word count + a lot of fluff, null, lack of scum hunting/forming town circles properly = generally mafia. Mafia can be active too, y'know? elaborate. who?
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Shopping your case and what you called Teemursu out just a while ago; How do these two things go together?
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you said: batsnacks is mafia because: 1. No-one has mentioned him really (except Koshi calling him town for colors) 2. He's not done anything but has a reasonable number of posts 3. Just staring at the playerlist my eye kept getting drawn here. This makes him very likely mafia.
then you called out Teemursu for: "Yet nowhere in your explanation do you allow for the fact that he could just be a terrible townie. You don't need meta (other than having played the game of mafia before) to know that there exist terrible townies. But there's no consideration for this here."
How does the stuff you call batsnacks out for make him scum over the stuff you call out Teemu for?
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like, you have one semi-valid point on bats. you have a better point on Teemu. w00t?
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On July 24 2014 05:34 Chopin Liszt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: you said: batsnacks is mafia because: 1. No-one has mentioned him really (except Koshi calling him town for colors) 2. He's not done anything but has a reasonable number of posts 3. Just staring at the playerlist my eye kept getting drawn here. This makes him very likely mafia.
then you called out Teemursu for: "Yet nowhere in your explanation do you allow for the fact that he could just be a terrible townie. You don't need meta (other than having played the game of mafia before) to know that there exist terrible townies. But there's no consideration for this here."
How does the stuff you call batsnacks out for make him scum over the stuff you call out Teemu for? The two are unrelated? I still don't know what you're asking. yes i get that. what i don't get is why your vote is where it is. i also think your points 1 and 3 on bats are crap if not jokes.
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alright that sounds fucking dumb. lemme try again. i think your case on teemu is much stronger than your case on bats, so i can't understand why your vote is where it is atm. and i can't understand why YOU think your vote is better placed on bats than on teemu.
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On July 24 2014 05:46 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: alright that sounds fucking dumb. lemme try again. i think your case on teemu is much stronger than your case on bats, so i can't understand why your vote is where it is atm. and i can't understand why YOU think your vote is better placed on bats than on teemu. What does this matter? I don't believe you are asking this... People vote for their top scumread, at least until EOD (consolidation). I feel like Shoppinglist is having you as more scummy as he does have batsnacks. therefore he should be pushing you and not him right?
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On July 24 2014 05:50 Chopin Liszt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 24 2014 05:46 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: alright that sounds fucking dumb. lemme try again. i think your case on teemu is much stronger than your case on bats, so i can't understand why your vote is where it is atm. and i can't understand why YOU think your vote is better placed on bats than on teemu. What does this matter? I don't believe you are asking this... People vote for their top scumread, at least until EOD (consolidation). I feel like Shoppinglist is having you as more scummy as he does have batsnacks. therefore he should be pushing you and not him right? I genuinely don't understand what part of "he is active" you don't understand in relation to this. Teermersu is far more involved than batsnacks is, even if there are things I don't like about his play. For example, I am not considering lynching you right now even though you seem to be pushing me on something that should be extremely obvious to you. Because you actually seem to care what is going on, at least. Chopin I will not argue about that, because you are right. The way you presented your arguments however suggests TO ME that you think teemu is more scummy than bats (as in my opinion you have way more valid arguments against him). So, obviously you disagree as if you did not, you'd claim mafia. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
that's why i am not asking you but other people about what they do think.
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On July 24 2014 05:54 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 24 2014 05:46 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: alright that sounds fucking dumb. lemme try again. i think your case on teemu is much stronger than your case on bats, so i can't understand why your vote is where it is atm. and i can't understand why YOU think your vote is better placed on bats than on teemu. What does this matter? I don't believe you are asking this... People vote for their top scumread, at least until EOD (consolidation). I feel like Shoppinglist is having you as more scummy as he does have batsnacks. therefore he should be pushing you and not him right? I'm not telling him who he should be pushing on, that's his own choice. Liszt's case on me earlier was bad. Chopin's case on me is meh, I don't really see either one of them being stronger than the other. Kush, did you say you think Rayn is mafia? Could you explain why? Like what the fuck man? Can you answer me? I asked you a question and you give me a "could be maybe not" answer. Answer the question; do you think it's scummy or not he is not pushing you as per what i said?
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that's not an answer to what i asked.
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hint: correct answer is yes/no
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so you do not actually try to figure out why people post what they do?
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like if someone says: "this guy is scum. idk why really, but i feel like it. gut read mostly, so kill him. [vote]
but also there is this other guy, here is X Y Z reasons why he is mafia and i definitely fell like he'll flip scum [no action]"
you just go, "awww.. makes sense yobro" ???
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On July 24 2014 07:00 Xatalos wrote: rayn, so you think ObiWan is scum? Have you played with him before?
I dunno about his meta, but he doesn't feel like he's afraid of getting attention at all. He's also posted quite a bit so far. It's more indicative of town to me.
He's showed reluctance to take stances, but it could just be genuinely not having many strong opinions.
Is there something else on him besides the wishy-washiness? yes i think he might be scum for what i said. You know i say stuff when i have something to say. there is nothing else i have said and yes, i have played with him before. i have also coached him as you might realize if you read the thread.
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navillus you posted "I definitely don't think Koshi should be the D1 lynch right now but I don't have a strong town read on him." and then you posted a couple of more scumreads that were more scummy at the same minute.... you even voted for someone else.
why?
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nvm i misread. carry on.
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