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On July 12 2014 02:37 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, back, and I now that I think of it, rayn is suspicious. He sees something in my words that are flatly contradictory, calls me out on it, but doesn't push a lynch on me? That makes no sense.
why rayn and not me?
i'm willing to believe you made an honest mistake. but you're also wrong about eden lul
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On July 12 2014 02:41 OnceKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 02:37 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, back, and I now that I think of it, rayn is suspicious. He sees something in my words that are flatly contradictory, calls me out on it, but doesn't push a lynch on me? That makes no sense. why rayn and not me? i'm willing to believe you made an honest mistake. but you're also wrong about eden lul
Did you call me out on it? No, it was rayn.
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On July 12 2014 02:29 IAmRobik wrote:
See the thing is. Bunnies should be reading me as town, because she read me as town in the very last game we just played. I'm playing very very very similarly (at least of late) in terms of my attitude and what i'm saying. The fact that she's not doing that makes her scummy.
I
AM
TOWN
ExO (on the other hand)
IS
NOT
MAFIA
So there you have it. If I'm town and ExO's not mafia, then that means that we should never be lynched.
If you're so hyper-aware of your prior meta, why wouldn't you as scum try to adjust your play to your towngame?
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On July 12 2014 02:29 IAmRobik wrote:
See the thing is. Bunnies should be reading me as town, because she read me as town in the very last game we just played. I'm playing very very very similarly (at least of late) in terms of my attitude and what i'm saying. The fact that she's not doing that makes her scummy.
I
AM
TOWN
ExO (on the other hand)
IS
NOT
MAFIA
So there you have it. If I'm town and ExO's not mafia, then that means that we should never be lynched.
did you just meta defend yourself and then do your whole I AM TOWN AND EVERYONE WHO THINKS SO IS WRONG in the same post to try to convince us that you're town because you've done that before?
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everyone who thinks otherwise is wrong*
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Yup. I don't think I've ever done it as mafia, so it still holds true.
If you find an instance of me doing it as mafia, well then I was wrong, but I'm still doing it as town this game.
All the people who say "omg, you can't use meta on yourself because you know the meta" are silly. Unless I have changed the meta on myself, then you can continue to use that meta read that I've provided. If I trick you in a game by doing this, then from there on out you can question that meta read. But there's no reason to doubt the meta read before I've given you a reason to doubt it.
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forced listpost is null in general, but i think with exo's meta its scummy
robik is still definitely not in his town meta; a lot more like order imo
other exo stuff: the way he defends robik definitely seems scummy
he also explained his listpost by saying he was just going to say 27nb was toxic, and uses that to post a read post which is something entirely different. i don't think a townie would just decide to do reads for everyone after calling someone out for something which isn't even scummy.
I was going to post that in my QT because OK asked for more stuff on Robik/Exo but I think it's good stuff for everyone to think about.
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On July 12 2014 02:54 IAmRobik wrote:
Yup. I don't think I've ever done it as mafia, so it still holds true.
If you find an instance of me doing it as mafia, well then I was wrong, but I'm still doing it as town this game.
All the people who say "omg, you can't use meta on yourself because you know the meta" are silly. Unless I have changed the meta on myself, then you can continue to use that meta read that I've provided. If I trick you in a game by doing this, then from there on out you can question that meta read. But there's no reason to doubt the meta read before I've given you a reason to doubt it.
lol
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On July 12 2014 02:44 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 02:29 IAmRobik wrote:
See the thing is. Bunnies should be reading me as town, because she read me as town in the very last game we just played. I'm playing very very very similarly (at least of late) in terms of my attitude and what i'm saying. The fact that she's not doing that makes her scummy.
I
AM
TOWN
ExO (on the other hand)
IS
NOT
MAFIA
So there you have it. If I'm town and ExO's not mafia, then that means that we should never be lynched. If you're so hyper-aware of your prior meta, why wouldn't you as scum try to adjust your play to your towngame?
Cause I'd rather talk my way out of a lynch as scum without doing that than to ruin my town meta. I'd rather be really easy to read as town and try to get away with being a little bit scummier as scum, than to give a reason for people to doubt my town read. The reason for this is because I enjoy playing town infinitely more than playing scum, so I don't mind getting lynched as scum (though it hasn't happened yet on TL), but I do abhor getting mislynched as town (hasn't happened yet on TL -- and very VERY rarely on other mediums)
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On July 12 2014 02:56 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 02:44 goodkarma wrote:On July 12 2014 02:29 IAmRobik wrote:
See the thing is. Bunnies should be reading me as town, because she read me as town in the very last game we just played. I'm playing very very very similarly (at least of late) in terms of my attitude and what i'm saying. The fact that she's not doing that makes her scummy.
I
AM
TOWN
ExO (on the other hand)
IS
NOT
MAFIA
So there you have it. If I'm town and ExO's not mafia, then that means that we should never be lynched. If you're so hyper-aware of your prior meta, why wouldn't you as scum try to adjust your play to your towngame? Cause I'd rather talk my way out of a lynch as scum without doing that than to ruin my town meta. I'd rather be really easy to read as town and try to get away with being a little bit scummier as scum, than to give a reason for people to doubt my town read. The reason for this is because I enjoy playing town infinitely more than playing scum, so I don't mind getting lynched as scum (though it hasn't happened yet on TL), but I do abhor getting mislynched as town (hasn't happened yet on TL -- and very VERY rarely on other mediums)
This post is utter bullshit and wifom. How is this not exactly what scum would say in this situation.
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Ell how does one make a reasonable defense of one's teammate rofl
And yes sqrt i did call you on it
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On July 12 2014 02:54 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +forced listpost is null in general, but i think with exo's meta its scummy
robik is still definitely not in his town meta; a lot more like order imo
other exo stuff: the way he defends robik definitely seems scummy
he also explained his listpost by saying he was just going to say 27nb was toxic, and uses that to post a read post which is something entirely different. i don't think a townie would just decide to do reads for everyone after calling someone out for something which isn't even scummy. I was going to post that in my QT because OK asked for more stuff on Robik/Exo but I think it's good stuff for everyone to think about.
This is like a billion % exactly how the ExO shit went down. He wanted to make a post about bunnies and then he's like, fuck it, imma just give reads on everyone. I said it previously, I was trying to get him to do it to break him out of his shell. If you don't like it, that's your fault. Doesn't make him scum.
In fact, I'll argue that if we were scum, I'd tell him to just play exactly like he plays his town game -- lurk all of d1 and then come out d2 with some reads. I wouldn't want him to change his town meta if he was scum, because that would make people read him scummy. But this is a learning experience and I want him to get better, so I am FORCING him to do that. I'm also FORCING him (well, i suggested he do it) to go read other game threads to get reads on people -- specifically Palmar, who as i mentioned earlier, I want ExO to read World Cup and Heavyweight Champ 2 to build a read on palmar's early game and figure out why i was able to snap clear him in WC and snap-condemn him in Heavyweight Champ 2
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On July 12 2014 01:46 OnceKing wrote:
sqrt how do you townread eden and then contradict yourself very soon afterwards
i still don't like robik but now for different reasons, most of his posts are talking about he and his teammate are innocent while hardly ever mentioning his scumread/fos/whatever on bunnies
- FRU
I didn't notice this, sorry.
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On July 12 2014 02:57 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 02:56 IAmRobik wrote:On July 12 2014 02:44 goodkarma wrote:On July 12 2014 02:29 IAmRobik wrote:
See the thing is. Bunnies should be reading me as town, because she read me as town in the very last game we just played. I'm playing very very very similarly (at least of late) in terms of my attitude and what i'm saying. The fact that she's not doing that makes her scummy.
I
AM
TOWN
ExO (on the other hand)
IS
NOT
MAFIA
So there you have it. If I'm town and ExO's not mafia, then that means that we should never be lynched. If you're so hyper-aware of your prior meta, why wouldn't you as scum try to adjust your play to your towngame? Cause I'd rather talk my way out of a lynch as scum without doing that than to ruin my town meta. I'd rather be really easy to read as town and try to get away with being a little bit scummier as scum, than to give a reason for people to doubt my town read. The reason for this is because I enjoy playing town infinitely more than playing scum, so I don't mind getting lynched as scum (though it hasn't happened yet on TL), but I do abhor getting mislynched as town (hasn't happened yet on TL -- and very VERY rarely on other mediums) This post is utter bullshit and wifom. How is this not exactly what scum would say in this situation.
Listen...It is WIFOM. BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT IT'S TRUE. It's exactly what GOOD scum would do, but I'm less concerned with being good scum than being obvious town. I'd rather set up a meta where people can read me as obvious town when I'm town so that they will listen to me and I can get my points across, then set up a meta where I fuck up my town meta in a game and people are unwilling to trust me moving forward.
Again, all this is wifom, but it's fucking true.
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On July 12 2014 03:02 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 02:57 sinani206 wrote:On July 12 2014 02:56 IAmRobik wrote:On July 12 2014 02:44 goodkarma wrote:On July 12 2014 02:29 IAmRobik wrote:
See the thing is. Bunnies should be reading me as town, because she read me as town in the very last game we just played. I'm playing very very very similarly (at least of late) in terms of my attitude and what i'm saying. The fact that she's not doing that makes her scummy.
I
AM
TOWN
ExO (on the other hand)
IS
NOT
MAFIA
So there you have it. If I'm town and ExO's not mafia, then that means that we should never be lynched. If you're so hyper-aware of your prior meta, why wouldn't you as scum try to adjust your play to your towngame? Cause I'd rather talk my way out of a lynch as scum without doing that than to ruin my town meta. I'd rather be really easy to read as town and try to get away with being a little bit scummier as scum, than to give a reason for people to doubt my town read. The reason for this is because I enjoy playing town infinitely more than playing scum, so I don't mind getting lynched as scum (though it hasn't happened yet on TL), but I do abhor getting mislynched as town (hasn't happened yet on TL -- and very VERY rarely on other mediums) This post is utter bullshit and wifom. How is this not exactly what scum would say in this situation. Listen...It is WIFOM. BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT IT'S TRUE. It's exactly what GOOD scum would do, but I'm less concerned with being good scum than being obvious town. I'd rather set up a meta where people can read me as obvious town when I'm town so that they will listen to me and I can get my points across, then set up a meta where I fuck up my town meta in a game and people are unwilling to trust me moving forward. Again, all this is wifom, but it's fucking true.
it's exactly what good scum would do, and it's especially what you would do as scum, and i refuse to believe that if you are scum this game, you care more about your meta for future games than the hitting your wincon
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On July 12 2014 00:38 IAmRobik wrote:
[...]
I am never voting you this game
Your teammate said something super towny
[...]
what?
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On July 12 2014 03:01 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 01:46 OnceKing wrote:
sqrt how do you townread eden and then contradict yourself very soon afterwards
i still don't like robik but now for different reasons, most of his posts are talking about he and his teammate are innocent while hardly ever mentioning his scumread/fos/whatever on bunnies
- FRU I didn't notice this, sorry.
On July 12 2014 01:48 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 01:46 OnceKing wrote:
sqrt how do you townread eden and then contradict yourself very soon afterwards
i still don't like robik but now for different reasons, most of his posts are talking about he and his teammate are innocent while hardly ever mentioning his scumread/fos/whatever on bunnies
- FRU
reaaaaaaaaally
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On July 12 2014 03:08 OnceKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 03:01 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On July 12 2014 01:46 OnceKing wrote:
sqrt how do you townread eden and then contradict yourself very soon afterwards
i still don't like robik but now for different reasons, most of his posts are talking about he and his teammate are innocent while hardly ever mentioning his scumread/fos/whatever on bunnies
- FRU I didn't notice this, sorry. Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 01:48 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On July 12 2014 01:46 OnceKing wrote:
sqrt how do you townread eden and then contradict yourself very soon afterwards
i still don't like robik but now for different reasons, most of his posts are talking about he and his teammate are innocent while hardly ever mentioning his scumread/fos/whatever on bunnies
- FRU reaaaaaaaaally
Yep.
I explained b/c rayn asked me to.
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marv i'll read Palmar when the game goes on and so will you.
If he is scum we lynch him, if he is not we'll figure it out. Right now his vote is on a good place.
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