EPTOn July 14 2014 18:45 Koshi wrote:
This was made on page 35:
This was made on page 45:
GlowingBear has shown activeness through pages 1 to 45. These 2 quotes come from the bottom of his first first page of filter. How can you be active in the first 35 pages of the game, say you will make cases when you return in 4 hours, and then when you return you are totally lost because there are 10 more pages to read? What is the difference between 35 pages or 45 pages?
To me this looks like a scum showing activity in the early game but not thinking about the game. Then after being pressured to give reads (also by his own teammate HaruRh: "GlowingBears reads are amazing, just wait on them") he says he will do it in 4 hours, but when trying to come up with reads failing horribly.
This feeling is only strenghtened by the actual read post:
So this read post is 13 hours later then when he promised he was going to provide reads. But Glowingbear doesn't get further then the page he was on when he promised these reads. These reads all date back to page 35. Now if we look at the actual content in this post there is only something on sqrt, and it has nothing to do with scumhunting. It's just sqrt is being friendly and on the sidelines. Which is exactly how Glowingbear is playing tbh, this is the first post that contains any form of reads and we are 50 pages far.
There is nothing on Alakaslam. From reading the Alakaslam filter GlowingBear quoted a post about Alakaslam saying "Hi". That's it. I don't even know what to say about that except that it isn't a townie looking to figure out Alakaslam his alignment. HaruRh makes it look like GlowingBear was pretty good in previous games at scumhunting, I haven't checked this but if GlowingBear did find scum. He probable didn't do it by analysing "Hi" posts.
So in this post he against promises reads for 3 other people. I am seeing a pattern here. GlowingBear keep getting behind on the thread and then by catching up he doesn't have to play in the moment. He just gives himself time to make outdated posts. In theory this is already 100% scummy, but forgivable if the reads would help the game forward. Or in the very least attempt to do so:
This again is so many hours later and I already commented on this post to show goodwill to GlowingBear. But in the end this post just isn't what it should be. There is nothing here that pushes the game forward, that only a townie would think off or what a scum wouldn't say.
Then in the following many muchos hours. GlowingBear keeps referring back to his post about ExO, Robik and Eden. Why? Is it because he still thinks these 2 teams are the scumteams? I dare you. Who are the scummers in GlowingBear his mind right now? Tell me? You can't.
Now I also skimmed HaruRh his posts and I don't see much scumhunting there as well. Pretty sure he calls Robik town, I don't know about Eden. cba to look atm. I already know enough.
##vote: WeDemandALawyer
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On July 12 2014 01:42 GlowingBear wrote:
Or put the grapes on spoiler :p
Ok I think we have enough posts to make a case. When I get home, I'll reach my computer and do what I do best: filter diving. Then I'm going to bring cases. Expect a big post in around 4 hours since now.
Before I go, I must also say that focusing "townhunting" is worse than "scum hunting" in my opinion, because it gets easier to a scum to blend in your town circle and doesn't help to do a good lynch on day1, as you are going to choose who to lynch based on someone you just don't have a strong town read instead of lynching someone you have a strong scumread.
Or put the grapes on spoiler :p
Ok I think we have enough posts to make a case. When I get home, I'll reach my computer and do what I do best: filter diving. Then I'm going to bring cases. Expect a big post in around 4 hours since now.
Before I go, I must also say that focusing "townhunting" is worse than "scum hunting" in my opinion, because it gets easier to a scum to blend in your town circle and doesn't help to do a good lynch on day1, as you are going to choose who to lynch based on someone you just don't have a strong town read instead of lynching someone you have a strong scumread.
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On July 12 2014 07:41 GlowingBear wrote:
OMG just got back home and BOOM 45 pages to read.
Gonna take a shower, skim through the pages, filter dive my strongest scum read and give a case. Then, if I get enough energy, I'll filter dive other people's scum reads to give my opinion.
God, it will take a while.
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear
OMG just got back home and BOOM 45 pages to read.
Gonna take a shower, skim through the pages, filter dive my strongest scum read and give a case. Then, if I get enough energy, I'll filter dive other people's scum reads to give my opinion.
God, it will take a while.
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear
GlowingBear has shown activeness through pages 1 to 45. These 2 quotes come from the bottom of his first first page of filter. How can you be active in the first 35 pages of the game, say you will make cases when you return in 4 hours, and then when you return you are totally lost because there are 10 more pages to read? What is the difference between 35 pages or 45 pages?
To me this looks like a scum showing activity in the early game but not thinking about the game. Then after being pressured to give reads (also by his own teammate HaruRh: "GlowingBears reads are amazing, just wait on them") he says he will do it in 4 hours, but when trying to come up with reads failing horribly.
This feeling is only strenghtened by the actual read post:
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On July 12 2014 14:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, I've read enough.
I really can't read more right now, I tried to analyze every single page and it seems my head can't absorb that much information. I started to write a summary on what was going on but I've got no more energy to do. It's incomplete, but I will leave it here in case someone finds it useful:
Half-ass summary:
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A) Game started with Eden claiming VT. Tehpoofter questioned it (indirectly btw). Got a wagon on him because of Kenpachi Rule policy. Bunnies and Eden started a discussion about the kenpachi rule and about Bunnies writing nonsense.
B) Robik posted about getting on the backseat while ExO would take the main point of his team. Got wagoned when Eden decided that this and Robik's vt claim was suspicious.
C) Rayn accused Eden's and tehpoofter's posts of being the worst of the thread. It can be viewed at page 22 as quoted by Ede. This is the game while on page 22.
D) marv/mderg starts posting at page 23 right after Exo express his will to hear about them.
E) Eden is questioned by marv and palmer for his vt claim. Eden insists in his vt claim. This is around page 24.
F) Palmar scumreads my posts because he thinks it was filled with fluff and unhelpful, then voted on me and Haru. Page 26.
G) Rayn decides to vote on me and Haru assuming that Haru was writing useless stuff when defending Palmar's push on me. 26-27
H) Robik posted and people got on him again, inquiring about his back seat attitude and his vt claim.
I) 32 - 36: sqrt starts giving reads on everybody, mostly null or town reads, except for Palmar because... he didn't confirm? o.O. People start to pressure him.
So, for what I read until now, I have three main targets I want to read more: ExO, Robik and Eden. I'll filter dive them tomorrow, as I didn't have energy enough even to read through 50 long pages.
I have a stronger hunch on sqrt/alakaslam, as a lot of people were saying here.
Why these guys? Because my way of scumhunting is going through passivity and too much friendly behavior. Going against people there were being quite and being friendly was my best bet on my first game and when I did that most of my readings got the right guys.
I see this signals on sqrt's posts, mostly. Check out these quotes:
sqrt's friendly quotes:
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I've bolded most of his reads. He looks like he does not want to "get into the battlefield", mostly giving free townreads to people. What mostly bothers me: just one-liners.
He made a push on Palmar, though:
sqrt's vote on Palmar's:
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Howerever, there is no strong argument to justify a lynch, as there is no strong argument to justify his townreads.
If you check his filters, you will find tiny posts with little information and reasoning behind. It just looks like he is trying to look like he is contributing, but not contributing at all.
But if he is scum, I'd better check Alakaslam also, because they are a team. If you filter dive him, you're going to find posts with no much useful information. Like this one:
Hi Post from Alakaslam:
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So, although I'm not sure if alakaslam is not contributing more because he, at the time, didn't have enough food on anybody, and although he doesn't have an overly friendly behavior like sqrt, this lack of contribution fits sqrt's attitude until now.
Slam gotta do better to change my vote.
Ok, I've read enough.
I really can't read more right now, I tried to analyze every single page and it seems my head can't absorb that much information. I started to write a summary on what was going on but I've got no more energy to do. It's incomplete, but I will leave it here in case someone finds it useful:
Half-ass summary:
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A) Game started with Eden claiming VT. Tehpoofter questioned it (indirectly btw). Got a wagon on him because of Kenpachi Rule policy. Bunnies and Eden started a discussion about the kenpachi rule and about Bunnies writing nonsense.
B) Robik posted about getting on the backseat while ExO would take the main point of his team. Got wagoned when Eden decided that this and Robik's vt claim was suspicious.
C) Rayn accused Eden's and tehpoofter's posts of being the worst of the thread. It can be viewed at page 22 as quoted by Ede. This is the game while on page 22.
D) marv/mderg starts posting at page 23 right after Exo express his will to hear about them.
E) Eden is questioned by marv and palmer for his vt claim. Eden insists in his vt claim. This is around page 24.
F) Palmar scumreads my posts because he thinks it was filled with fluff and unhelpful, then voted on me and Haru. Page 26.
G) Rayn decides to vote on me and Haru assuming that Haru was writing useless stuff when defending Palmar's push on me. 26-27
H) Robik posted and people got on him again, inquiring about his back seat attitude and his vt claim.
I) 32 - 36: sqrt starts giving reads on everybody, mostly null or town reads, except for Palmar because... he didn't confirm? o.O. People start to pressure him.
So, for what I read until now, I have three main targets I want to read more: ExO, Robik and Eden. I'll filter dive them tomorrow, as I didn't have energy enough even to read through 50 long pages.
I have a stronger hunch on sqrt/alakaslam, as a lot of people were saying here.
Why these guys? Because my way of scumhunting is going through passivity and too much friendly behavior. Going against people there were being quite and being friendly was my best bet on my first game and when I did that most of my readings got the right guys.
I see this signals on sqrt's posts, mostly. Check out these quotes:
sqrt's friendly quotes:
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On July 12 2014 00:52 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
First post that catches my eye. This team is leaning town. First team to get a signature.
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On July 11 2014 11:47 GlowingBear wrote:
/confirm
Hello guys, it's my second game here.
It seems that there is a ruckus going on already. Can someone explain me what Is the Kenpachi rule?
Also, I'll be signing every post of mine with a bolded "-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear" so it gets easier to identify the team.
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear
/confirm
Hello guys, it's my second game here.
It seems that there is a ruckus going on already. Can someone explain me what Is the Kenpachi rule?
Also, I'll be signing every post of mine with a bolded "-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear" so it gets easier to identify the team.
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear
First post that catches my eye. This team is leaning town. First team to get a signature.
On July 12 2014 00:55 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
This may come to prove important.
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On July 11 2014 13:00 OnceKing wrote:
i also think we should evaluate each person individually independent of who their other half is.
i also think we should evaluate each person individually independent of who their other half is.
This may come to prove important.
On July 12 2014 01:01 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Eden is town.
Last time I played with Eden, he was mafia, and he wasn't joking around like this. He came down hard on people.
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On July 11 2014 19:33 Eden1892 wrote:
the last time I had a grilled cheese sandwich for dinner I got laid by a hot Russian chick later that night
On July 11 2014 19:30 mderg wrote:
The last time I remember someone saying that he was confirmed townie he was actually scum.
On July 11 2014 19:26 Eden1892 wrote:
why would you ignore a confirmed townie? very sketchy play imo
On July 11 2014 18:50 marvellosity wrote:
I think I'm going to ignore Eden, dunno if he posts like a stupid kid for a particular reason, but it makes him look like a stupid kid and it's annoying to read his posts with terrible english.
I think I'm going to ignore Eden, dunno if he posts like a stupid kid for a particular reason, but it makes him look like a stupid kid and it's annoying to read his posts with terrible english.
why would you ignore a confirmed townie? very sketchy play imo
The last time I remember someone saying that he was confirmed townie he was actually scum.
the last time I had a grilled cheese sandwich for dinner I got laid by a hot Russian chick later that night
Eden is town.
Last time I played with Eden, he was mafia, and he wasn't joking around like this. He came down hard on people.
On July 12 2014 01:20 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, rayn is first on my list.
Town.
Like I pointed out, this is an excellent post.
Okay, rayn is first on my list.
Town.
Like I pointed out, this is an excellent post.
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On July 11 2014 22:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also this is from my notes regarding my earlier post:
I felt like Eden is running out of arguments after the Kenpachi gambit. After the stuff he said does not sell to people he soft-calls out poofer for something really awful.
Also poofer's post was bad because this is not a normal hydra game and reading two people as one is a bad strategy, if someone is scummy they are likely to be scum. It does not matter how townie the other half looks.
Let's see if Palmar is paying attention to the game. He should most likely say these things in case he is town.
Also this is from my notes regarding my earlier post:
I felt like Eden is running out of arguments after the Kenpachi gambit. After the stuff he said does not sell to people he soft-calls out poofer for something really awful.
Also poofer's post was bad because this is not a normal hydra game and reading two people as one is a bad strategy, if someone is scummy they are likely to be scum. It does not matter how townie the other half looks.
Let's see if Palmar is paying attention to the game. He should most likely say these things in case he is town.
On July 12 2014 01:24 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Haru is definitely strange.
He is not acting like in previous games.
I don't like him.
His partner, Glowingbear, however, I do like.
This:
Is a good post. Decent logic here.
Overall, I'm on the fence with these guys.
Haru, a question for you.
Why were you waiting for robik to say this?
Haru is definitely strange.
He is not acting like in previous games.
I don't like him.
His partner, Glowingbear, however, I do like.
This:
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On July 12 2014 00:19 GlowingBear wrote:
1) Being excited =\= spamming. More than that, I wasn't posting anymore because I was sleeping. Different time zones hooray. I'm excited and I'm reading through everything but if you think not giving a opinion on someone is scummy, I'll say that giving free useless opinions on everyone is scummy. As I didn't know at the time what the Kenpachi rule was and as I said we needed more game to have a primary argument, I think it's pretty reasonable to just point out useless effort and wait to have more food to make a case, probably around midday.
2)Pointint out that I didn't know exactly what was happening because I didn't know the meaning of Kenpachi rule. How can I understand a fight if I can not understand the language?
I think the team name bolding is very good so we can give a better analysis while diving through the topic.
3) See point 1. Also, I don't think it was unnecessary post as we were wasting breath on a useless subject by the moment, and I find scummy people who just spam things about useless objects, so town loses time and focus. It has already stopped, well, yes, but to the point you would say that I pratically necrobumped it? Check the post times or the distance between my post and the last "Kenpachi rule" post. It's less than a page.
More: why would I bring the discussion back just to say "let's not discuss this"? If it was a misleading topic and I were scum, shouldn't I just keep the topic going on saying something like "oh we have to use this policy because of X"?
On July 11 2014 21:28 Palmar wrote:
Actually, I'm going to do this:
##Unvote
##Vote Team WeDemandALawyer
The reasons:
1. They both seemed excited to play pre-game, but haven't posted anything of value.
2. This post
Specifically the bolded sentence feels like massively useless fluff observation.
3. This post
Talking about stuff that is really easy to talk about without giving any sort of an opinion on anyone in the game. I think it was sinani who pointed out that this post also came at a really awkward time, after people had mostly dropped the kenpachi thing.
3. This post
I like the summary of his opinion on the issue. "Meh".
Actually, I'm going to do this:
##Unvote
##Vote Team WeDemandALawyer
The reasons:
1. They both seemed excited to play pre-game, but haven't posted anything of value.
2. This post
On July 11 2014 11:47 GlowingBear wrote:
/confirm
Hello guys, it's my second game here.
It seems that there is a ruckus going on already. Can someone explain me what Is the Kenpachi rule?
Also, I'll be signing every post of mine with a bolded "-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear" so it gets easier to identify the team.
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear
/confirm
Hello guys, it's my second game here.
It seems that there is a ruckus going on already. Can someone explain me what Is the Kenpachi rule?
Also, I'll be signing every post of mine with a bolded "-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear" so it gets easier to identify the team.
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear
Specifically the bolded sentence feels like massively useless fluff observation.
3. This post
On July 11 2014 12:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Kenpachi rule doesn't sound as a winning plan to me. You may use it as a secondary argument but to get to the point you have a primary one there is so much game to be played. I think that if we keep discussing this topic it will just a waste of breath.
Why do I think it's secondary: a scum can fake claim vt just so he can get townie to accuse him and get mislynched. More than that, a vt can simply try to pressure someone who claimed vt. Why not?
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and Glowingbear
Kenpachi rule doesn't sound as a winning plan to me. You may use it as a secondary argument but to get to the point you have a primary one there is so much game to be played. I think that if we keep discussing this topic it will just a waste of breath.
Why do I think it's secondary: a scum can fake claim vt just so he can get townie to accuse him and get mislynched. More than that, a vt can simply try to pressure someone who claimed vt. Why not?
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and Glowingbear
Talking about stuff that is really easy to talk about without giving any sort of an opinion on anyone in the game. I think it was sinani who pointed out that this post also came at a really awkward time, after people had mostly dropped the kenpachi thing.
3. This post
On July 11 2014 19:59 HaruRH wrote:
/confirm
Robik is going to be afk? But exo is a d1 non-poster too...
Meh
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear
/confirm
Robik is going to be afk? But exo is a d1 non-poster too...
Meh
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear
I like the summary of his opinion on the issue. "Meh".
1) Being excited =\= spamming. More than that, I wasn't posting anymore because I was sleeping. Different time zones hooray. I'm excited and I'm reading through everything but if you think not giving a opinion on someone is scummy, I'll say that giving free useless opinions on everyone is scummy. As I didn't know at the time what the Kenpachi rule was and as I said we needed more game to have a primary argument, I think it's pretty reasonable to just point out useless effort and wait to have more food to make a case, probably around midday.
2)Pointint out that I didn't know exactly what was happening because I didn't know the meaning of Kenpachi rule. How can I understand a fight if I can not understand the language?
I think the team name bolding is very good so we can give a better analysis while diving through the topic.
3) See point 1. Also, I don't think it was unnecessary post as we were wasting breath on a useless subject by the moment, and I find scummy people who just spam things about useless objects, so town loses time and focus. It has already stopped, well, yes, but to the point you would say that I pratically necrobumped it? Check the post times or the distance between my post and the last "Kenpachi rule" post. It's less than a page.
More: why would I bring the discussion back just to say "let's not discuss this"? If it was a misleading topic and I were scum, shouldn't I just keep the topic going on saying something like "oh we have to use this policy because of X"?
Is a good post. Decent logic here.
Overall, I'm on the fence with these guys.
Haru, a question for you.
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On July 12 2014 00:34 HaruRH wrote:
I was waiting for you to say that robik
Top town
On July 12 2014 00:32 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't know. The only thing that really bothers me strongly is that they have differing reads based off of my previous experience with playing as a hydra and the two heads expressing differing reads -- it also happened in my first game with rayn and mocsta expressing different reads. So both hydras that I've played with that were mafia had different reads. The one hydra that I played with that had the same reads (mattisfoolish) had the same reads.
it also MINORLY bothers me that bunnies is trying to push scum on me because I'm town, so that's pushing an anti-town agenda
On July 12 2014 00:28 OnceKing wrote:
So I go to sleep
and I wake up
and this question still isn't answered... Stratiform pls
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Robik can you tell me what bunnies/poof have done that's scummy other than "they disagree with each other"? Alternately can you explain why disagreeing with your teammate is alignment indicative?
On July 11 2014 14:31 OnceKing wrote:
Fun question
What merits casting more than suspicion then
And who is your suspicion cast upon
On July 11 2014 12:38 Stratiform wrote:
I've never played on TL, only irl and some facebook based games. I'm familiar with how mafia works.
As for the game so far, I don't really see any information to cast more than suspicion on anyone.
On July 11 2014 12:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Stratiform, I've never seen you before or played with you before.
Do you play here on TL often?
How familiar are you with the game mafia?
What is your take on the game so far?
Stratiform, I've never seen you before or played with you before.
Do you play here on TL often?
How familiar are you with the game mafia?
What is your take on the game so far?
I've never played on TL, only irl and some facebook based games. I'm familiar with how mafia works.
As for the game so far, I don't really see any information to cast more than suspicion on anyone.
Fun question
What merits casting more than suspicion then
And who is your suspicion cast upon
So I go to sleep
and I wake up
and this question still isn't answered... Stratiform pls
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Robik can you tell me what bunnies/poof have done that's scummy other than "they disagree with each other"? Alternately can you explain why disagreeing with your teammate is alignment indicative?
I don't know. The only thing that really bothers me strongly is that they have differing reads based off of my previous experience with playing as a hydra and the two heads expressing differing reads -- it also happened in my first game with rayn and mocsta expressing different reads. So both hydras that I've played with that were mafia had different reads. The one hydra that I played with that had the same reads (mattisfoolish) had the same reads.
it also MINORLY bothers me that bunnies is trying to push scum on me because I'm town, so that's pushing an anti-town agenda
I was waiting for you to say that robik
Top town
Why were you waiting for robik to say this?
On July 12 2014 01:27 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Tehpoofter hasn't done much. No read on him.
Bunnies, however, has talked alot. A lot lot.
Bunnies isn't as helpful as in other games, to the best of my memory. She's not questioning anything, not pushing people, I don't like it.
But I don't think we should lynch them because you usually don't lynch the most outspoken player, even if they're not posting all that useful stuff.
Bunnies, any particular reason for not scumhunting?
Tehpoofter hasn't done much. No read on him.
Bunnies, however, has talked alot. A lot lot.
Bunnies isn't as helpful as in other games, to the best of my memory. She's not questioning anything, not pushing people, I don't like it.
But I don't think we should lynch them because you usually don't lynch the most outspoken player, even if they're not posting all that useful stuff.
Bunnies, any particular reason for not scumhunting?
On July 12 2014 01:33 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Ray + tambo hasn't talked yet. No read.
Ray + tambo hasn't talked yet. No read.
I've bolded most of his reads. He looks like he does not want to "get into the battlefield", mostly giving free townreads to people. What mostly bothers me: just one-liners.
He made a push on Palmar, though:
sqrt's vote on Palmar's:
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On July 12 2014 01:31 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I do not like palmar. (this seems to be a trend)
He hasn't /confirmed yet.
First post:
And then does nothing for a significant amount of time.
Also this is not the palmar I saw when I played him. He was more analytical, more smart that game. This game, not so much.
Stratiform, I don't have a clue.
But this is my best read so far. They're mafia.
##Vote: Team Magic Computer
I do not like palmar. (this seems to be a trend)
He hasn't /confirmed yet.
First post:
And then does nothing for a significant amount of time.
Also this is not the palmar I saw when I played him. He was more analytical, more smart that game. This game, not so much.
Stratiform, I don't have a clue.
But this is my best read so far. They're mafia.
##Vote: Team Magic Computer
Howerever, there is no strong argument to justify a lynch, as there is no strong argument to justify his townreads.
If you check his filters, you will find tiny posts with little information and reasoning behind. It just looks like he is trying to look like he is contributing, but not contributing at all.
But if he is scum, I'd better check Alakaslam also, because they are a team. If you filter dive him, you're going to find posts with no much useful information. Like this one:
Hi Post from Alakaslam:
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On July 11 2014 23:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Well
Hi
Well
Hi
So, although I'm not sure if alakaslam is not contributing more because he, at the time, didn't have enough food on anybody, and although he doesn't have an overly friendly behavior like sqrt, this lack of contribution fits sqrt's attitude until now.
Slam gotta do better to change my vote.
So this read post is 13 hours later then when he promised he was going to provide reads. But Glowingbear doesn't get further then the page he was on when he promised these reads. These reads all date back to page 35. Now if we look at the actual content in this post there is only something on sqrt, and it has nothing to do with scumhunting. It's just sqrt is being friendly and on the sidelines. Which is exactly how Glowingbear is playing tbh, this is the first post that contains any form of reads and we are 50 pages far.
There is nothing on Alakaslam. From reading the Alakaslam filter GlowingBear quoted a post about Alakaslam saying "Hi". That's it. I don't even know what to say about that except that it isn't a townie looking to figure out Alakaslam his alignment. HaruRh makes it look like GlowingBear was pretty good in previous games at scumhunting, I haven't checked this but if GlowingBear did find scum. He probable didn't do it by analysing "Hi" posts.
So in this post he against promises reads for 3 other people. I am seeing a pattern here. GlowingBear keep getting behind on the thread and then by catching up he doesn't have to play in the moment. He just gives himself time to make outdated posts. In theory this is already 100% scummy, but forgivable if the reads would help the game forward. Or in the very least attempt to do so:
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On July 13 2014 05:29 GlowingBear wrote:
-> About my suspicions on ExO:
As I said before, my preferred method of chasing scum is looking after passivity/overly friendly behavior, although not the only one (this is the last time I'm saying this, you all know it by now). So, what raised suspicions on ExO was this particular post:
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So, basically, a huge post with tons of null reads and three town reads. This is, to me, being over friendly. Moreover, if you check his scum guesses, he thinks me and haru might be scums because we are not posting things with value. However, he is hesitating on us. Then, he thinks Palmar is scum for saying that we are scum for not posting anything of value. So, he is attacking Palmar for using the same logic as him.
So, not a good post. This is what made him feel suspicious for me.
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--> About my suspicions on Robik
Alright, I felt Robik was suspicious because he said he wasn't going to post and then started to spam things, or that is what I felt. Something like these posts:
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=611&topic_id=461355
These are quotes with Robik's sarcasm (which is really funny imo). But the thing is, looking out of context, it just seems that he wants to spam the thread. While re-reading his filters and trying to put those quotes on context, it looked like he was actually answering people. But... I don't know. Poor answers tbh. He insists to let ExO post more too much, also. And... why quoting his partner just to say "look ppl, this guy is town!". I just think that his spamming is not good, it looks suspicious to me because it just makes the thread difficult to read. Finally, I haven't seem a hard push coming from that team. That's what raised suspicions on him.
But people who played with Robik before can say better if I'm being too hard on his playfulness.
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--> About my suspicions on Eden
Same as Robik. Funny but unhelpful in some posts:
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Ok, I'll stop here because I've made my point.
But that's not the only suspicious part. I find weird his strong push on poof based on a policy, while I think poof was being sarcastic regarding Eden's claim. But even if he thought poof was scum, I think he should reason it better. His explanation was late:
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Ok, so, if he thinks this policy is good, he should push hard on it, no?
He didn't:
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Then, suddenly, Robik is town:
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His scumreads flips too quickly, look what followed up:
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That concludes what I found suspicious on Robik, ExO and Eden.
I would like to see marv's opinion on this post. Waiting for it.
-> About my suspicions on ExO:
As I said before, my preferred method of chasing scum is looking after passivity/overly friendly behavior, although not the only one (this is the last time I'm saying this, you all know it by now). So, what raised suspicions on ExO was this particular post:
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On July 12 2014 00:54 ExO_ wrote:
Some thoughts:
Team D-
I tend to have weird hours that I can be on, and I'm not just reading the TL forums 24/7, so while I can't always be as active as robik saying I'm not doing anything now isn't really giving me a fair shake in my opinion (@27ninjabunnies).
Every game I've seen 27nb in she goes around being very caustic and arrogant towards some people, and very nice to others. It seems to be regardless of her alignment. I find it to be unhelpful, as she goes off on tangents with wild accusations filled with bullshit reasoning for scum reads.
What this means in terms of the game is it's hard for me to read her as mafia or town. But I think she does more to cause problems in a town, than actually help with finding scum and uniting the town players.
Poofter isn't saying much and is kinda letting her get out in front. I don't know how to interpret that, but in World Cup poofter stayed kinda quiet until it came time to push me in the wrong directions. Nearly worked too
.
So a null read on the team but I generally think constantly creating a toxic atmosphere for the town is a bad thing even if they are town.
Team Whine
Slam is posting a fuck ton of 1 liners/pictures/general nonsense (hijole?) and sqrtofneg1 is saying nothing at all. In larger games I think mafia lurking works better than in a smaller game such as this, but it's almost nothing to read off of. Will have to wait to see what they vote day 1 and what happens night 1 to really know what to think of them.
Team VendettaStrada
I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.
Team needs a lawyer
I always kinda read HaruRH scummy, he has a little bit of omgus going on, but I miss read him in world cup so it gives me pause. So I look over at glowing bear, and he hasn't said a whole lot either. Just got caught up in the Kenpachi business. But doesn't really read town to me. I lean scum here, but I'm hesitant.
Team Magic Carpet
Not a lot of posts from straightform just asking questions "Robik why won't u post?, Why would exo/robik not posting Day 1 not be bad for town" etc... Palmar calls out team lawyer for not posting anything of value, but I see very little of value from him at all. After reading his filter i think Palmar is the most scummy looking person so far in the thread.
*scum read*
Team GoodCornBadCorn
Completely afk. Like 1 combined other than their /in posts. like what....? Do they not know the game is happening? No reads yet for obvious reasons
Team Crotch Rocket
Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though
Team Fraud walRus
Sinani saying hardly anything, OnceKing's vote on our team I think is bad: it's based on robik not playing the game, when robik has been pretty active. Hasn't really expanded on any reads and got pretty caught up in ol' kenpachi but I don't get a scum vibe from him. Null read
Team M squared
mderg hasn't said too much, but I've generally liked and agreed with what marv has to say. I think Town
So that leaves me with
Town
M squared
Vendetta Strata (aka how can I make a parody of that team name)
Rocket Crotch
Null
D-
Whine*
Goodcornbadcorn*
Fraud walRus
Scum
Lawyer
Magic Carpet
*Mostly afk
Some thoughts:
Team D-
I tend to have weird hours that I can be on, and I'm not just reading the TL forums 24/7, so while I can't always be as active as robik saying I'm not doing anything now isn't really giving me a fair shake in my opinion (@27ninjabunnies).
Every game I've seen 27nb in she goes around being very caustic and arrogant towards some people, and very nice to others. It seems to be regardless of her alignment. I find it to be unhelpful, as she goes off on tangents with wild accusations filled with bullshit reasoning for scum reads.
What this means in terms of the game is it's hard for me to read her as mafia or town. But I think she does more to cause problems in a town, than actually help with finding scum and uniting the town players.
Poofter isn't saying much and is kinda letting her get out in front. I don't know how to interpret that, but in World Cup poofter stayed kinda quiet until it came time to push me in the wrong directions. Nearly worked too
.So a null read on the team but I generally think constantly creating a toxic atmosphere for the town is a bad thing even if they are town.
Team Whine
Slam is posting a fuck ton of 1 liners/pictures/general nonsense (hijole?) and sqrtofneg1 is saying nothing at all. In larger games I think mafia lurking works better than in a smaller game such as this, but it's almost nothing to read off of. Will have to wait to see what they vote day 1 and what happens night 1 to really know what to think of them.
Team VendettaStrada
I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.
Team needs a lawyer
I always kinda read HaruRH scummy, he has a little bit of omgus going on, but I miss read him in world cup so it gives me pause. So I look over at glowing bear, and he hasn't said a whole lot either. Just got caught up in the Kenpachi business. But doesn't really read town to me. I lean scum here, but I'm hesitant.
Team Magic Carpet
Not a lot of posts from straightform just asking questions "Robik why won't u post?, Why would exo/robik not posting Day 1 not be bad for town" etc... Palmar calls out team lawyer for not posting anything of value, but I see very little of value from him at all. After reading his filter i think Palmar is the most scummy looking person so far in the thread.
*scum read*
Team GoodCornBadCorn
Completely afk. Like 1 combined other than their /in posts. like what....? Do they not know the game is happening? No reads yet for obvious reasons
Team Crotch Rocket
Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though
Team Fraud walRus
Sinani saying hardly anything, OnceKing's vote on our team I think is bad: it's based on robik not playing the game, when robik has been pretty active. Hasn't really expanded on any reads and got pretty caught up in ol' kenpachi but I don't get a scum vibe from him. Null read
Team M squared
mderg hasn't said too much, but I've generally liked and agreed with what marv has to say. I think Town
So that leaves me with
Town
M squared
Vendetta Strata (aka how can I make a parody of that team name)
Rocket Crotch
Null
D-
Whine*
Goodcornbadcorn*
Fraud walRus
Scum
Lawyer
Magic Carpet
*Mostly afk
So, basically, a huge post with tons of null reads and three town reads. This is, to me, being over friendly. Moreover, if you check his scum guesses, he thinks me and haru might be scums because we are not posting things with value. However, he is hesitating on us. Then, he thinks Palmar is scum for saying that we are scum for not posting anything of value. So, he is attacking Palmar for using the same logic as him.
So, not a good post. This is what made him feel suspicious for me.
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--> About my suspicions on Robik
Alright, I felt Robik was suspicious because he said he wasn't going to post and then started to spam things, or that is what I felt. Something like these posts:
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On July 11 2014 12:29 IAmRobik wrote:
read the thread. not gonna answer this again cause i'm a lil whiney bitch
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On July 11 2014 12:22 OnceKing wrote:
On July 11 2014 12:07 OnceKing wrote:
so do you have an actual reason for not playing the game robik i must have missed it
so do you have an actual reason for not playing the game robik i must have missed it
read the thread. not gonna answer this again cause i'm a lil whiney bitch
On July 11 2014 12:21 IAmRobik wrote:
Didn't think about that and didn't have to worry about it because when I opened my role pm I found out that I was town.
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On July 11 2014 12:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Rob if you were mafia, what kind of post would you have made?
Rob if you were mafia, what kind of post would you have made?
Didn't think about that and didn't have to worry about it because when I opened my role pm I found out that I was town.
On July 11 2014 16:32 IAmRobik wrote:
Cause I am god-tier at reading Rayn. And on that note I'm going to bed
Cause I am god-tier at reading Rayn. And on that note I'm going to bed
On July 11 2014 23:51 IAmRobik wrote:
Man, if I was town jr and marv was my town sr, I would be so content right now. I literally would have 0 posts in the thread
Man, if I was town jr and marv was my town sr, I would be so content right now. I literally would have 0 posts in the thread
On July 11 2014 23:55 IAmRobik wrote:
I mean, my comment had nothing to do with the game or my reads. It was a random thought that came to my head.
I mean, my comment had nothing to do with the game or my reads. It was a random thought that came to my head.
On July 12 2014 03:45 IAmRobik wrote:
just looked into the first game. I was in it. I was town. You were medic. You didn't save me n1.
Policy lynch:
##vote: oncekingworstmedicnaeuoceana
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On July 12 2014 03:41 OnceKing wrote:
it was a hearthstone discussion
and no
but i dont think i joked around that much in my newbie as town either sooooooooooooo poor meta reads ftw?
it was a hearthstone discussion
and no
but i dont think i joked around that much in my newbie as town either sooooooooooooo poor meta reads ftw?
just looked into the first game. I was in it. I was town. You were medic. You didn't save me n1.
Policy lynch:
##vote: oncekingworstmedicnaeuoceana
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=611&topic_id=461355
On July 12 2014 01:40 IAmRobik wrote:
Man this post is so fucking scummy, but this guy is town. Don't lynch him!
Man this post is so fucking scummy, but this guy is town. Don't lynch him!
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On July 12 2014 01:38 ExO_ wrote:
Listen here I tried to save you in world cup remember!
I was wrong on just about everything else, but I did try to save you with good logic!
On July 12 2014 01:34 mderg wrote:
right at the start when you promised to barely post this game. (I don´t really want to lynch you for that, I´m just salty because of world cup mafia)
On July 12 2014 01:27 IAmRobik wrote:
Where did I lie?
On July 12 2014 01:24 mderg wrote:
Can we lynch Robik for being a liar?
Can we lynch Robik for being a liar?
Where did I lie?
right at the start when you promised to barely post this game. (I don´t really want to lynch you for that, I´m just salty because of world cup mafia)
Listen here I tried to save you in world cup remember!
I was wrong on just about everything else, but I did try to save you with good logic!
On July 12 2014 00:57 IAmRobik wrote:
TOWNIEST POST IN THE MOTHA FUCKIN THREAD. THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING BRUTALLY TOWN. IF ANYONE VOTES TO LYNCH HIM, YOU WILL FACE MY WRATH
TOWNIEST POST IN THE MOTHA FUCKIN THREAD. THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING BRUTALLY TOWN. IF ANYONE VOTES TO LYNCH HIM, YOU WILL FACE MY WRATH
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On July 12 2014 00:54 ExO_ wrote:
Some thoughts:
Team D-
I tend to have weird hours that I can be on, and I'm not just reading the TL forums 24/7, so while I can't always be as active as robik saying I'm not doing anything now isn't really giving me a fair shake in my opinion (@27ninjabunnies).
Every game I've seen 27nb in she goes around being very caustic and arrogant towards some people, and very nice to others. It seems to be regardless of her alignment. I find it to be unhelpful, as she goes off on tangents with wild accusations filled with bullshit reasoning for scum reads.
What this means in terms of the game is it's hard for me to read her as mafia or town. But I think she does more to cause problems in a town, than actually help with finding scum and uniting the town players.
Poofter isn't saying much and is kinda letting her get out in front. I don't know how to interpret that, but in World Cup poofter stayed kinda quiet until it came time to push me in the wrong directions. Nearly worked too.
So a null read on the team but I generally think constantly creating a toxic atmosphere for the town is a bad thing even if they are town.
Team Whine
Slam is posting a fuck ton of 1 liners/pictures/general nonsense (hijole?) and sqrtofneg1 is saying nothing at all. In larger games I think mafia lurking works better than in a smaller game such as this, but it's almost nothing to read off of. Will have to wait to see what they vote day 1 and what happens night 1 to really know what to think of them.
Team VendettaStrada
I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.
Team needs a lawyer
I always kinda read HaruRH scummy, he has a little bit of omgus going on, but I miss read him in world cup so it gives me pause. So I look over at glowing bear, and he hasn't said a whole lot either. Just got caught up in the Kenpachi business. But doesn't really read town to me. I lean scum here, but I'm hesitant.
Team Magic Carpet
Not a lot of posts from straightform just asking questions "Robik why won't u post?, Why would exo/robik not posting Day 1 not be bad for town" etc... Palmar calls out team lawyer for not posting anything of value, but I see very little of value from him at all. After reading his filter i think Palmar is the most scummy looking person so far in the thread.
*scum read*
Team GoodCornBadCorn
Completely afk. Like 1 combined other than their /in posts. like what....? Do they not know the game is happening? No reads yet for obvious reasons
Team Crotch Rocket
Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though
Team Fraud walRus
Sinani saying hardly anything, OnceKing's vote on our team I think is bad: it's based on robik not playing the game, when robik has been pretty active. Hasn't really expanded on any reads and got pretty caught up in ol' kenpachi but I don't get a scum vibe from him. Null read
Team M squared
mderg hasn't said too much, but I've generally liked and agreed with what marv has to say. I think Town
So that leaves me with
Town
M squared
Vendetta Strata (aka how can I make a parody of that team name)
Rocket Crotch
Null
D-
Whine*
Goodcornbadcorn*
Fraud walRus
Scum
Lawyer
Magic Carpet
*Mostly afk
Some thoughts:
Team D-
I tend to have weird hours that I can be on, and I'm not just reading the TL forums 24/7, so while I can't always be as active as robik saying I'm not doing anything now isn't really giving me a fair shake in my opinion (@27ninjabunnies).
Every game I've seen 27nb in she goes around being very caustic and arrogant towards some people, and very nice to others. It seems to be regardless of her alignment. I find it to be unhelpful, as she goes off on tangents with wild accusations filled with bullshit reasoning for scum reads.
What this means in terms of the game is it's hard for me to read her as mafia or town. But I think she does more to cause problems in a town, than actually help with finding scum and uniting the town players.
Poofter isn't saying much and is kinda letting her get out in front. I don't know how to interpret that, but in World Cup poofter stayed kinda quiet until it came time to push me in the wrong directions. Nearly worked too
.So a null read on the team but I generally think constantly creating a toxic atmosphere for the town is a bad thing even if they are town.
Team Whine
Slam is posting a fuck ton of 1 liners/pictures/general nonsense (hijole?) and sqrtofneg1 is saying nothing at all. In larger games I think mafia lurking works better than in a smaller game such as this, but it's almost nothing to read off of. Will have to wait to see what they vote day 1 and what happens night 1 to really know what to think of them.
Team VendettaStrada
I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.
Team needs a lawyer
I always kinda read HaruRH scummy, he has a little bit of omgus going on, but I miss read him in world cup so it gives me pause. So I look over at glowing bear, and he hasn't said a whole lot either. Just got caught up in the Kenpachi business. But doesn't really read town to me. I lean scum here, but I'm hesitant.
Team Magic Carpet
Not a lot of posts from straightform just asking questions "Robik why won't u post?, Why would exo/robik not posting Day 1 not be bad for town" etc... Palmar calls out team lawyer for not posting anything of value, but I see very little of value from him at all. After reading his filter i think Palmar is the most scummy looking person so far in the thread.
*scum read*
Team GoodCornBadCorn
Completely afk. Like 1 combined other than their /in posts. like what....? Do they not know the game is happening? No reads yet for obvious reasons
Team Crotch Rocket
Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though
Team Fraud walRus
Sinani saying hardly anything, OnceKing's vote on our team I think is bad: it's based on robik not playing the game, when robik has been pretty active. Hasn't really expanded on any reads and got pretty caught up in ol' kenpachi but I don't get a scum vibe from him. Null read
Team M squared
mderg hasn't said too much, but I've generally liked and agreed with what marv has to say. I think Town
So that leaves me with
Town
M squared
Vendetta Strata (aka how can I make a parody of that team name)
Rocket Crotch
Null
D-
Whine*
Goodcornbadcorn*
Fraud walRus
Scum
Lawyer
Magic Carpet
*Mostly afk
These are quotes with Robik's sarcasm (which is really funny imo). But the thing is, looking out of context, it just seems that he wants to spam the thread. While re-reading his filters and trying to put those quotes on context, it looked like he was actually answering people. But... I don't know. Poor answers tbh. He insists to let ExO post more too much, also. And... why quoting his partner just to say "look ppl, this guy is town!". I just think that his spamming is not good, it looks suspicious to me because it just makes the thread difficult to read. Finally, I haven't seem a hard push coming from that team. That's what raised suspicions on him.
But people who played with Robik before can say better if I'm being too hard on his playfulness.
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--> About my suspicions on Eden
Same as Robik. Funny but unhelpful in some posts:
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On July 11 2014 11:35 Eden1892 wrote:
i'm allowed to do that because i'm confirmed town
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On July 11 2014 11:34 IAmRobik wrote:
Gets on Banks case for PR hunting...goes on to PR hunt
LAWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
On July 11 2014 11:32 Eden1892 wrote:
confirmed power role
i will sheep you to victory robik lead me
On July 11 2014 11:30 IAmRobik wrote:
We are town. I will barely be posting for the rest of the game as we have absolutely nothing to hide and thus I will allow ExO to give his reads as they will be 100% genuine and not convoluted because he is town and everything that he posts will 100% be his honest opinion. I was thinking on the ride home how I would word this post if we got VT and it sounded way better and less convoluted, but it is what it is.
ExO, the floor is yours!
We are town. I will barely be posting for the rest of the game as we have absolutely nothing to hide and thus I will allow ExO to give his reads as they will be 100% genuine and not convoluted because he is town and everything that he posts will 100% be his honest opinion. I was thinking on the ride home how I would word this post if we got VT and it sounded way better and less convoluted, but it is what it is.
ExO, the floor is yours!
confirmed power role
i will sheep you to victory robik lead me
Gets on Banks case for PR hunting...goes on to PR hunt
LAWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
i'm allowed to do that because i'm confirmed town
On July 11 2014 11:58 Eden1892 wrote:
is D short for Dumb Shit That Doesn't Matter
because Team TheD isn't talking about anything else right now
is D short for Dumb Shit That Doesn't Matter
because Team TheD isn't talking about anything else right now
On July 11 2014 12:02 Eden1892 wrote:
![[image loading]](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51dp0Ng1guL._SY300_.jpg)
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On July 11 2014 12:01 27ninjabunnies wrote:
No, I want to move passed this.
I think it is dumb and stupid. Whether it's kenpachi rule, or whatever the hell made up rule you came up with.
On July 11 2014 11:58 Eden1892 wrote:
is D short for Dumb Shit That Doesn't Matter
because Team TheD isn't talking about anything else right now
is D short for Dumb Shit That Doesn't Matter
because Team TheD isn't talking about anything else right now
No, I want to move passed this.
I think it is dumb and stupid. Whether it's kenpachi rule, or whatever the hell made up rule you came up with.
On July 11 2014 12:02 Eden1892 wrote:
go back to not posting
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On July 11 2014 12:01 IAmRobik wrote:
OK and Eden have to stop harping on this "whatever" rule bullshit. It's really not progressing the thread anywhere and it's annoying to read over and over again
OK and Eden have to stop harping on this "whatever" rule bullshit. It's really not progressing the thread anywhere and it's annoying to read over and over again
go back to not posting
On July 11 2014 12:04 Eden1892 wrote:
it is, i use it all the time
very high salt content though, much like your post
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On July 11 2014 12:03 27ninjabunnies wrote:
That's some good seasoning.
We use it in the South on just about everything.
On July 11 2014 12:02 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 11 2014 12:01 27ninjabunnies wrote:
No, I want to move passed this.
I think it is dumb and stupid. Whether it's kenpachi rule, or whatever the hell made up rule you came up with.
On July 11 2014 11:58 Eden1892 wrote:
is D short for Dumb Shit That Doesn't Matter
because Team TheD isn't talking about anything else right now
is D short for Dumb Shit That Doesn't Matter
because Team TheD isn't talking about anything else right now
No, I want to move passed this.
I think it is dumb and stupid. Whether it's kenpachi rule, or whatever the hell made up rule you came up with.
That's some good seasoning.
We use it in the South on just about everything.
it is, i use it all the time
very high salt content though, much like your post
On July 11 2014 12:43 Eden1892 wrote:
wow ok count 'em up there's #2 we goin to da top town
![[image loading]](http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/assets/4636903/cockypop2.gif)
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On July 11 2014 12:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Kenpachi rule doesn't sound as a winning plan to me. You may use it as a secondary argument but to get to the point you have a primary one there is so much game to be played. I think that if we keep discussing this topic it will just a waste of breath.
Why do I think it's secondary: a scum can fake claim vt just so he can get townie to accuse him and get mislynched. More than that, a vt can simply try to pressure someone who claimed vt. Why not?
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and Glowingbear
Kenpachi rule doesn't sound as a winning plan to me. You may use it as a secondary argument but to get to the point you have a primary one there is so much game to be played. I think that if we keep discussing this topic it will just a waste of breath.
Why do I think it's secondary: a scum can fake claim vt just so he can get townie to accuse him and get mislynched. More than that, a vt can simply try to pressure someone who claimed vt. Why not?
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and Glowingbear
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On July 11 2014 12:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I like this post. Townie points.
Btw: How happy are you with your team name this game?
Do you need to call a lawyer?
The"Double"D
I like this post. Townie points.
Btw: How happy are you with your team name this game?
Do you need to call a lawyer?
The"Double"D
wow ok count 'em up there's #2 we goin to da top town
On July 11 2014 14:07 Eden1892 wrote:
Boy it sure is boring being a Louisiana VOLTRON Mason with bunnies and OnceKing...
Boy it sure is boring being a Louisiana VOLTRON Mason with bunnies and OnceKing...
On July 12 2014 06:57 Eden1892 wrote:
![[image loading]](http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140108021302/villains/images/2/27/Beetlejuice.jpg)
Ok, I'll stop here because I've made my point.
But that's not the only suspicious part. I find weird his strong push on poof based on a policy, while I think poof was being sarcastic regarding Eden's claim. But even if he thought poof was scum, I think he should reason it better. His explanation was late:
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On July 11 2014 11:56 Eden1892 wrote:
y'all are dumb as hell smh
no one is using the Kenpachi Rule
this is actually the Ihcapnek Rule, where someone is scum because they believe a VT claim too quickly, not because they cast doubt on the VT claim
this is much better than the Kenpachi Rule and you should all follow the Ihcapnek Rule and vote TheD
y'all are dumb as hell smh
no one is using the Kenpachi Rule
this is actually the Ihcapnek Rule, where someone is scum because they believe a VT claim too quickly, not because they cast doubt on the VT claim
this is much better than the Kenpachi Rule and you should all follow the Ihcapnek Rule and vote TheD
Ok, so, if he thinks this policy is good, he should push hard on it, no?
He didn't:
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On July 11 2014 14:59 Eden1892 wrote:
Sweet.
I didn't actually "get the feeling" blahblah at all, actually I was starting to back off my scumread of slot TheD and bunnies' recent posts have solidified that move.
We're not lynching bunnies today
##UNVOTE Team TheD
##VOTE Team FakeClaim
Why? Robik is on Team FakeClaim, and Robik claimed town. Therefore he is fake claiming and therefore he is scum. Checkmate
Sweet.
I didn't actually "get the feeling" blahblah at all, actually I was starting to back off my scumread of slot TheD and bunnies' recent posts have solidified that move.
We're not lynching bunnies today
##UNVOTE Team TheD
##VOTE Team FakeClaim
Why? Robik is on Team FakeClaim, and Robik claimed town. Therefore he is fake claiming and therefore he is scum. Checkmate
Then, suddenly, Robik is town:
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On July 12 2014 06:38 Eden1892 wrote:
ok i'm on page 40
everybody shut the fuck up about robik he's town this is a waste
bunnies is not toxic to the thread, her questions might not always be going places and her spat with robik or whoever tf back in the 30s was silly but it doesn't matter because she is also town
we're lynching sqrt today, god bless america
someone read the post i highlighted in response to exo's reads and tell me how it isn't scum-motivated
ok i'm on page 40
everybody shut the fuck up about robik he's town this is a waste
bunnies is not toxic to the thread, her questions might not always be going places and her spat with robik or whoever tf back in the 30s was silly but it doesn't matter because she is also town
we're lynching sqrt today, god bless america
someone read the post i highlighted in response to exo's reads and tell me how it isn't scum-motivated
His scumreads flips too quickly, look what followed up:
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On July 12 2014 14:34 Eden1892 wrote:
trufax, ignoring Slamroot for now
right now I would only be okay with killing the following teams (listed in order in 2nd post of thread):
- WeDemandALawyer
- Magic Computer
- GoodCopBadCop
- M&M
of those I like Magic Computer, GoodCopBadCop and M&M the most for potential next-lynches
I'm not trying to ignore your case on WeDemandALawyer, promise, it's just weird to me that none of those slots have done anything I really remember/consider important
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On July 12 2014 14:17 TheSlenderMan wrote:
But that doesn't mean the rest of the topics of discussion should die
But that doesn't mean the rest of the topics of discussion should die
trufax, ignoring Slamroot for now
right now I would only be okay with killing the following teams (listed in order in 2nd post of thread):
- WeDemandALawyer
- Magic Computer
- GoodCopBadCop
- M&M
of those I like Magic Computer, GoodCopBadCop and M&M the most for potential next-lynches
I'm not trying to ignore your case on WeDemandALawyer, promise, it's just weird to me that none of those slots have done anything I really remember/consider important
On July 12 2014 15:21 Eden1892 wrote:
ok friends here is a post count thus far, each number corresponds to the teams in the OP and the parentheses numbers are each poster
1: 31 posts (020/011)
2: 36 posts (025/011)
3: 99 posts (044/055)
4: 123 posts (031/092)
5: 64 posts (043/021)
6: 21 posts (009/012)
7: 80 posts (008/072)
8: 93 posts (077/016)
9: 89 posts (011/078)
10: 91 posts (076/015)
preliminary thoughts by team:
- slot 1 can stay, low posting but slenderman is doing work IMO, not killing this slot
- slot 2 is whatever i'll sort it out later but i would be ok killing it
- slot 3 is scum, we're killing today
- slot 4 is memorable as town + high-posting so we're not killing this slot
- slot 5 is oddly unmemorable for >60 posts, would be okay killing
- slot 6 TBD, low post count and not memorable but a lot of that is Koshi replacing in
- slot 7 is confirmed town, we're never killing this slot
- slot 8 is funny because robik said he wasn't gonna talk but then has a bunch of posts. also we're not killing this slot because it's memorable as town + high-posting
- slot 9 is confirmed town, we're never killing this slot
- slot 10 is unmemorable despite a lot of posting, would be okay killing this slot
tl;dr:
- slot 3 scum
- slots 1, 4, 7, 8, 9 are off the table
- slot 6 tbd
- slots 2, 6, 10 look good, probably in that order
ok friends here is a post count thus far, each number corresponds to the teams in the OP and the parentheses numbers are each poster
1: 31 posts (020/011)
2: 36 posts (025/011)
3: 99 posts (044/055)
4: 123 posts (031/092)
5: 64 posts (043/021)
6: 21 posts (009/012)
7: 80 posts (008/072)
8: 93 posts (077/016)
9: 89 posts (011/078)
10: 91 posts (076/015)
preliminary thoughts by team:
- slot 1 can stay, low posting but slenderman is doing work IMO, not killing this slot
- slot 2 is whatever i'll sort it out later but i would be ok killing it
- slot 3 is scum, we're killing today
- slot 4 is memorable as town + high-posting so we're not killing this slot
- slot 5 is oddly unmemorable for >60 posts, would be okay killing
- slot 6 TBD, low post count and not memorable but a lot of that is Koshi replacing in
- slot 7 is confirmed town, we're never killing this slot
- slot 8 is funny because robik said he wasn't gonna talk but then has a bunch of posts. also we're not killing this slot because it's memorable as town + high-posting
- slot 9 is confirmed town, we're never killing this slot
- slot 10 is unmemorable despite a lot of posting, would be okay killing this slot
tl;dr:
- slot 3 scum
- slots 1, 4, 7, 8, 9 are off the table
- slot 6 tbd
- slots 2, 6, 10 look good, probably in that order
That concludes what I found suspicious on Robik, ExO and Eden.
I would like to see marv's opinion on this post. Waiting for it.
This again is so many hours later and I already commented on this post to show goodwill to GlowingBear. But in the end this post just isn't what it should be. There is nothing here that pushes the game forward, that only a townie would think off or what a scum wouldn't say.
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On July 13 2014 15:04 GlowingBear wrote:
3am here but I'm not feeling sleepy. Someone to talk please?
marv, please, bring your thoughts on my main posts
3am here but I'm not feeling sleepy. Someone to talk please?
marv, please, bring your thoughts on my main posts
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On July 14 2014 02:30 GlowingBear wrote:
"Glowingbear threw random names"
*a huge post justifying my suspicions*
"Lol tl;dr too boring to read."
Gg. At least koshi had the decency to reply to my post
Koshi, about Robik, I said that his posts, at least out of context, sounded like he was simply throwing random jokes and that when looking inside a context I wasn't sure if they were some random jokes or had some kind of meaning, but I still thought they were simple spam.
When I say spam I am referring to a lot of posts with little information. I think that they make the thread bigger and useless. I think this is harmful to town. That is why I like to skim through the thread and post big posts, because it makes easier to people analyse what I say. I'm still improving on the formatting so I makes easier. I'm doing my best to be clear to town, clear to any analyses, but still there are people saying that I look scummy for that. I can't really understand why.
On July 13 2014 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
honestly I can't really be bothered, because it's boring. I think anything you wrote could have been written by mafia, but Haru being weird on several occasions has made me leery of lynching you.
Take it or leave it my friend ^^
On July 13 2014 15:04 GlowingBear wrote:
3am here but I'm not feeling sleepy. Someone to talk please?
marv, please, bring your thoughts on my main posts
3am here but I'm not feeling sleepy. Someone to talk please?
marv, please, bring your thoughts on my main posts
honestly I can't really be bothered, because it's boring. I think anything you wrote could have been written by mafia, but Haru being weird on several occasions has made me leery of lynching you.
Take it or leave it my friend ^^
"Glowingbear threw random names"
*a huge post justifying my suspicions*
"Lol tl;dr too boring to read."
Gg. At least koshi had the decency to reply to my post
Koshi, about Robik, I said that his posts, at least out of context, sounded like he was simply throwing random jokes and that when looking inside a context I wasn't sure if they were some random jokes or had some kind of meaning, but I still thought they were simple spam.
When I say spam I am referring to a lot of posts with little information. I think that they make the thread bigger and useless. I think this is harmful to town. That is why I like to skim through the thread and post big posts, because it makes easier to people analyse what I say. I'm still improving on the formatting so I makes easier. I'm doing my best to be clear to town, clear to any analyses, but still there are people saying that I look scummy for that. I can't really understand why.
Then in the following many muchos hours. GlowingBear keeps referring back to his post about ExO, Robik and Eden. Why? Is it because he still thinks these 2 teams are the scumteams? I dare you. Who are the scummers in GlowingBear his mind right now? Tell me? You can't.
Now I also skimmed HaruRh his posts and I don't see much scumhunting there as well. Pretty sure he calls Robik town, I don't know about Eden. cba to look atm. I already know enough.
##vote: WeDemandALawyer
(1st bolded part): You do understand that I took the effort to look and think about every single post since the beginning of day one and that's why I found 10 more pages would take much more energy than I think I was going to spend, right?
Haru didn't sound like that. I've played only one game and he was in it, and he was scum. With good coaching, I managed to flip my reads and realize who was scum in there, although not without doubts. The way I did it? Exactly how I'm doing now.
(2nd bolded part): I couldn't give it before, I came late to home and it took me long enoughto read through everything.
(3rd bolded part): I'm playing completely different from sqrt and if you think that his friendly quotations have nothing to do with scumhunt, you've not reading my posts at all. Sqrt style was to came to the topic, say only "Lol this guy is mafia this guy isn't kthxbai", people asking him to give reasoning and he saying "no thx I conceded I think this guy is mafia dunno why". I'm giving thoughts on topics and I'm giving thoughts on people. Some were suspicions, one was a scumread. I have to filter dive people and analysing their posts takes a long time. (4th bolded part) Also, the quote I've brought was an example of what slam was doing the whole game, just one example. You're going to say that I should've quote all slam's useless posts?
(5th bolded part): Really? I don't understand how there is outdated posts in a forum mafia. Actually, I think I don't understand how to play forum mafia at all. I always thought it was by reading through posts again and again, trying to find odd signals and bring them to discussion, even if they are posts from the beginning but that can prove what you're stating. But in this game it seems that it is better to pretend this is a video mafia and to start spamming one liners everywhere and ignoring big posts because "reading is boring". If you sum up all one liners it will be bigger than my posts and they will have no contribution at all. But, hey! It's forum mafia and that's how it's done.
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