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On July 07 2014 21:15 iamperfection wrote: i guarantee victory for town because im town so suck on that prplhz. how does you allegedly being town make you able to guarantee a town victory? | ||
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On July 07 2014 21:36 Vivax wrote: The situation right now is that there are three people posting. Do you agree or disagree with iamp's entrance looking townish so far? The situation when I posted the statement we disagree about was that I had a playerlist. Considering that were 10 posts into the game he's looking alright simply by being around. | ||
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girls can't be doctors? | ||
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On July 07 2014 22:24 Vivax wrote: An Italian, a Russian and a Romanian are in a car. Who's driving? a law enforcer? | ||
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so it's 1/3 and 2/3 | ||
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second one, you get a green ball. one of those is not awesome and the two others are. | ||
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On July 07 2014 23:23 Koshi wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/59KTQ.gif) So. How happy are you now that I can't vote you for the rest of the game? i'm just happy that i'm starting to understand basic probability. how happy are you that you can't vote me for the rest of the game? | ||
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On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote: My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town. prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads. I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting. Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die. ##Vote: Koshi don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all. | ||
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On July 07 2014 23:54 IAmRobik wrote: 1) your read on Koshi 2) your unfounded "meta" read on prplhz 3) your discussion of lynch practices -- talking about game mechanics 4) No, I don't enjoy it. Yes, it is beneficial at times because it throws mafia off and makes them unsure of what to do. how is his meta read on me unfounded? | ||
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On July 08 2014 00:01 iamperfection wrote: because he didn't give any reasons he just said meta. hmm maybe we can ask him to explain his meta read and that will give us a clearer picture? i mean, it's not scummy not to explain something, it's scummy not to have an explanation and he might just have that. | ||
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so maybe sloosh is scum ##Vote slOosh | ||
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On July 08 2014 07:28 Vivax wrote: Convince me that he's scummy-wrong then. he has two posts read them yourself. i don't like his case at all seems forced and on an easy target and the "why is he asking people for reads early in the game? SCUM" is just a terrible argument, people do whatever the fuck in early game. On July 08 2014 07:31 Toadesstern wrote: I like you for the first part because I agree. But I think there's enough that makes it more likely that that assertion just has to be us being wrong and he did slip in some kind of way. yea i also agree with the first part but i think i have more luck with not telling myself "but maybe he's mafia anyway" so i'm not going to do that | ||
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On July 08 2014 07:36 slOosh wrote: Prplhz, give me a meaningful read using information only from pages 6~9. can't what's your point? | ||
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On July 08 2014 07:38 slOosh wrote: Forumite asked you basically the same question. I argue that it is a terrible question more likely to come from scum than town. Do you agree / disagree? so what? people ask stuff early game, i asked koshi if he was happy he couldn't vote me for the rest of the game, that's kind of like asking for a read too. vivax asks me in post 6 what i feel about iamp people ask each other stuff it's absolutely not a big deal and certainly nothing to call anybody scum for | ||
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On July 08 2014 07:57 ExO_ wrote: Regardless of your alignment bunnies, you come off as seriously caustic. If you're a townie, you're making no friends by being so rude to everybody can you just leave until you are ready to contribute? | ||
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On July 08 2014 08:16 Alakaslam wrote: given other noncomplimentary remarks I take this as a compliment personally i said it to gauge a reaction, not because it was true (might be though but who am i to judge) | ||
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it's literally impossible not to react | ||
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can you go more into detail with what you like about slOosh' case on forumite? | ||
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On July 08 2014 19:04 Koshi wrote: I like the "Stop. Think" part of the case because it makes the case very sheepable and very understandable. Why did ask Forumite prplhz his reads? This is a very good question. SlOosh also believes in this sentence showing a scummy mindset in Forumite. You are trowing away SloOsh his argument that this one sentence makes Forumite scum but have you ever seen a scummer make a case showing off such dept in thought? Remember that this is SloOsh his first post, so one (Robik) could argue that SlOosh is being scum tryharding. You think so as well? SloOsh reading that one sentence and making an understandable/sheepable case around that one sentence makes me respect SlOosh his scumhunting abilities. Or his scum playing abilities. Why would I want to lynch somebody who shows me that he can make a case around somebody making 1 bad sentence? Out of fear he plays atypical godly scum? I will pass on that. No, you should lynch him because he is scum making a bad case on an easy target. Forumite was under a lot of fire already and then slOosh focuses on him asking someone else for reads and says that's scummy. Absolutely not, people do that all the time and people had already done that a lot in thread. It's a big part of how you play this game. And yes, the case does look tryhard with the "Stop, Think" thing. That doesn't mean much to me but it's worth noting and thats how IAmRobik makes reads anyway as far as I know. On July 08 2014 19:07 Koshi wrote: tldr: I also find the "99% sure prplhz is town" into " prplhz please give me your reads" looking awkward. I didn't see that at until SlOosh pointed it out. I like that SlOosh pointed it out. I like SlOosh. simple. Why on earth is that awkward? A townie could EASILY think "I think that guy is town, maybe I should ask him for some reads so I can better get a hold of this game", I do that all the time, ask my town reads for their reads so I can better understand the game. Or since it appears that Forumite wasn't 99% sure, maybe he's thinking "Maybe if I ask prplhz for some reads I will become more sure of his alignment". Fact is that people ask each other questions and people were asking each other for reads way before Forumite asked me for my reads. | ||
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On July 08 2014 19:18 Koshi wrote: Why did you want to know what he thinks? Do you respect his early reads so much that you want to sheep him? Why not ask iamp what he was thinking? So you think it's a bad question because no one should care what I think? | ||
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On July 08 2014 19:35 Koshi wrote: Both SlOosh and Forumite. Obviously he is allowed to ask you questions etc etc etc. That's not what this is about. Maybe you are right and this forumite business is nothing. Maybe you are right and SlOosh is scum. But I disagree with you. If you want us to be bffs and you want me off this Forumite thing find me something else. Something we both can agree on. SlOosh being opportunistic scum is not that thing. Otherwise we will have to live with each other in disagreement. Which I don't have a problem with. Then what is it about? I don't understand then. | ||
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On July 08 2014 21:55 yamato77 wrote: iamp, redirect your attention to obiwan he's the lynch today i liek u | ||
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On July 08 2014 22:29 Damdred wrote: maybe? we all probably can't agree though to reach a majority lol why aren't you voting obiwan? | ||
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On July 08 2014 22:32 Damdred wrote: Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen a really good case on him well according to the rules you're allowed to read his filter and form an opinion of him yourself | ||
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On July 08 2014 23:29 VisceraEyes wrote: I'M DEFENDING YOU YOU PIECE OF SHIT, SEE IF I EVER MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN! is this a joke? | ||
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On July 09 2014 01:39 27ninjabunnies wrote: [...] Koshi making cased and reads- Prp getting defensive with his whole "Omgerd, how does this make me mafia?" And forumite with his "Omgerd, Sloosh is bad bad bad." And Koshi being like, yeah idgaf what you think. [...] When did I ever say anything to the effect of "Omgerd, how does this make me mafia?"? And that's a trick question, I never said anything like that. Which means that you're not trying to understand the things you decide to comment on. | ||
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On July 09 2014 02:14 27ninjabunnies wrote: Oh I'm reading. That's what it came off to me. If you want a quote of what I'm talking about, I'll gladly give it to you. It was things like that that came off as a how does this make me mafia. You aren't really scumhunting, but focussing on how does it make me look bad type thing. i'm just going to assume that you're discarding the entire context of those quotes out of ignorance and not out of malice | ||
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On July 09 2014 15:20 slOosh wrote: prplhz, thoughts on iamp please. Cora, please address my post on page 65 i don't see the case on him but i might be wrong, he's a tentative town read in that i'd much rather like to lynch a bunch of other people over him obiwan - town or scum? | ||
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the other half needs to post twice as much | ||
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dunno what alignment he is though | ||
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On July 09 2014 23:22 yamato77 wrote: we are not lynching Cora are you saying this because iamp wants to lynch him? i just think that iamp is town and cora looks scum so i'm okay with a cora lynch | ||
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On July 09 2014 23:54 yamato77 wrote: we have half a majority if you aren't voting iamp, explain why iamp is around cora isn't | ||
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can we lynch cora when iamp flips town? | ||
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anything over 48 hours for a day is way too long | ||
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On July 10 2014 00:35 iamperfection wrote: im about to throw can you just calm down and walk away from your computer and then come back around deadline and give your thoughts. there's probably nothing you can do in thread right now, the case is there and the crowd is rampaging. it's 6 hours from deadline and i'm going to be away at some point because ned-arg and half this game is away so we can't count on them and i want a lynch. might not be too bad to lynch you even though you're probably town because it will take the steam out of the rampaging nerds. | ||
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i really doubt he's scum but i probably have to leave soon and wont be back until very close to deadline or after and half this thread is away and i want a lynch. i doubt this lynch is scum orchestrated. | ||
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On July 10 2014 01:10 Vivax wrote: Prplhz, to me your stuff reads as "Meh, I'll lynch whatever". This whole iamp wagon bugs me cause I agree that it's unlikely scum started it (since Koshi did) and there are some valid arguments + iamp's list post timing, but on the other hand I don't wanna lynch this guy D1 when he can be a potentially strong asset to town. Can you spell out to me why you're in such a hurry to lynch anything. what exactly are you looking for that isn't in this post On July 10 2014 00:40 prplhz wrote: can you just calm down and walk away from your computer and then come back around deadline and give your thoughts. there's probably nothing you can do in thread right now, the case is there and the crowd is rampaging. it's 6 hours from deadline and i'm going to be away at some point because ned-arg and half this game is away so we can't count on them and i want a lynch. might not be too bad to lynch you even though you're probably town because it will take the steam out of the rampaging nerds. | ||
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On July 10 2014 01:25 27ninjabunnies wrote: Koshi, I think you are town, but I think you are highly wrong on Iamp. I just don't see him as mafia here. People are reading him a mafia for things I just don't see, and tbh your case isn't convincing me. I think most of the people here are just- "Ooo look, a big case. I don't have to do the work. Let's just sheep koshi and then we can lynch him tomorrow when iamp turns up town". [...] who are these people because we should look into them, that sounds like a really scummy thing to say/think/do | ||
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On July 10 2014 01:36 27ninjabunnies wrote: Lol that is not what I said at all. Learn to read buddy. I already gave who I think are the best lynches today. And I'm working on a post with reads. If oyu want to wait around and read when they are posted, be my guest. I have about 7 more pages to read before I am completey caught up. except that's exactly what you said and you're not disproving me here, you're just denying it and talking about something else. 1) you say that most people on iamp is scum. fact. 2) i ask you for a name. fact. 3) you say that you don't know who but you know they're there. fact. that's what happened. feel free to disagree with any of those statements but it would be pretty easy for me to quote them. i'm sorry but i just think it's annoying when drama queens cannot read basic context and when they write things they don't mean. | ||
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On July 10 2014 01:58 27ninjabunnies wrote: And I probably have more of an extensive vocabulary than you. And I'm definitely not a drama queen. So before you go and throw accusations around that have no basis, learn to read. Thanks. possibly. my danish is definitely better than yours though. definitely a drama queen. i really cannot believe that you or anyone else would ever think that townies regularly go "i'll just lynch a townie, and then i'll lynch a townie. i don't give a fuck." if you believe that townies don't care about lynching scum or solving the game then i have no idea why you're even playing. | ||
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On July 10 2014 03:05 Koshi wrote: meh. It had to happen. why did it have to happen | ||
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game is completely lost. blues should use their own brains. don't be a town hero and play safe. | ||
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On July 10 2014 03:54 IAmRobik wrote: Instead of lynching town!koshi for punishment for the iamp lynch. I want to IML cora within the first hour of d2. Can we make that happen? yes you giant moron we're not lynching koshi and yama and stop saying that because it makes me so fucking mad just be reasonable and let me keep a shimmer of hope. please. | ||
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no i'm not going to trust iamp just because he's town. he was just mad as fuck because he was getting lynched. and understandably so. | ||
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On July 10 2014 04:07 IAmRobik wrote: i must have missed that post...it seemedl ike he was here up til the very end. It's also really fucking suspicious soemone would go to bed with like 30 minutes before EOD. Like, I don't care how tired I am, if I'm town I want to know whether we lynched town or not...not just fuck off. That's super shady no it's not deadline was like 6 hours away and he was tired and he had said so for ages. people need to sleep. i see your point but "super shady" is a gross exagerration. | ||
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On July 10 2014 05:26 IAmRobik wrote: what makes yamato and cora town? I know what I think you're gonna say about yamato, but I'll listen to it anyway. The cora read must be thoroughly explained though with quotes and all that jazz let me know if you are actually considering me as scum because then i'll just stop talking to you | ||
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On July 11 2014 00:42 yamato77 wrote: looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool me being mafia just looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool lets agree on someone again it went well with obiwan | ||
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latest deadline in: I know I can't ask questions in the thread but maybe you can add this to the daypost. (see, no questionmark) | ||
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we should obviously aim for a soonest deadline lynch. i'd prefer cora but i doubt that's going to happen because of those people who are so adamantly against it. | ||
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On July 11 2014 02:54 Corazon wrote: Yo Vivax, I would've shot Robik but he didnt vote for Iamp so... robik voted for you? | ||
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yea calm down i understood it as if someone at deadline had voted for someone who wasn't scum you could shoot them, not that the lynch necessarily had to go through something like a dreamflower vig but a little stronger | ||
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First yamato77 points his finger at ObiWanShinobi. I very quickly agree and put my vote in this thread. Nobody seems to care much though about any of this, iamperfection and Koshi are still arguing about whatever. This happens for a few pages before you (VisceraEyes) vote for ObiWanShinobi claiming it's as good as any other lynch. ExO_ quickly follows up. At this point there isn't even a case on ObiWanShinobi, just a bunch of people voting him. Slight resistance in that Forumite votes ExO_ for his hardly reasoned vote. No one really talks much about ObiWanShinobi and the lynch loses traction after you switch to Forumite instead. Slighty support from 27ninjabunnies and Toadesstern. Honestly, it doesn't feel much like scum had much influence on how it didn't happen. It seems much more like we were still going on about other stuff and it just got kind of lost in that. yamato77, me, you, ExO_ all looking good for voting him, but nobody is looking like they were really trying to divert attention from him, he didn't have much in the first place outside of the votes and they just kind of dissipated on their own. Koshi's questioning came after the initial hype had died down. I think it's far fetched to think that anything in the ObiWanShinobi lynch timeline points at Koshi being scum. | ||
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First read his frigging filter. Done? So who were the most talked about for lynch people yesterday? Forumite, iamperfection and Corazon. And Damdred talks about them a total of 1 times when he mentions Forumite in passing. He doesn't have an opinion on iamperfection and he mentions Corazon one single time, very early on, when he just wants to know why he's off iamperfection's list. Why randomly question some town read, that turned out to be correct? Like Alakaslam already pointed out, there's also some weird jokish stuff in there that looks bad. Joke about being scum, another joke about being scum. The general attitude of his filter is one of not giving a fuck. I was being very negative and despairing about our prospects of even lynching anyone with all these lurking people around and then his answer was lol maybe we can't agree either. Just a carefree "We probably can't lynch and we probably can't agree" and still he's doing nothing for town. Seems like he's not bothered at all about this. I also somewhat randomly asked him about why he wasn't voting ObiWanShinobi yesterday and his answer was "Haven't seen a good case". It wasn't a curious investigative "Why you asking about ObiWanShinobi?", it wasn't a boisterous "Because he's totally town!", it wasn't anything,, it was simply a declaration that once he sees a good case on him, he will vote him, along with an apology in case there had been one he had not noticed. In the end he makes a throwaway vote on ExO_, even saying in his own vote (and earlier in the game) that he doesn't have much reason to think that ExO_ is even scum. Also the wording of the vote "I'm going to put up a vote" seems like it's something he thinks is a big deal but if a townie thinks his vote is a big deal there's going to be a case or a push or whatever. He's not even attempting to drum up support for it, it looks way too much like a throwaway vote. All in all, he looks really scummy. He hardly takes a stance on anything, he's not trying to involve himself in the happenings of the game, he seems carefree about what he thinks is a bad state of town and he does this nervous joking around and a throwaway vote. ##Vote Damdred | ||
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On July 11 2014 04:34 Damdred wrote: Nope not going to be like cora and just up and leave. Getting a misread here my point is that you call your own lynch after a case and two votes. townies are generally more certain they'll be able to succesfully defend themselves because they know they are townies and they didn't do anything wrong. | ||
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i'm masoned with koshi and he's denying it in thread no reason to lie as town so he's scum | ||
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confirmed liars get lynched sloosh, thoughts on damdred and my case and some very very good reason you think the confirmed liar is town | ||
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On July 11 2014 17:05 slOosh wrote: Town sometimes lie. You can argue that it's wrong and stupid but it doesn't change the fact that sometimes town lie. Sometimes for baits, sometimes cause they just forget, sometimes for other reasons. Ver says it himself in how to improve: So I don't see him claiming to be roleblocked alignment indicative, since it could have town motivations or scum motivations. I think it is unlikely that BM is scum because ObiWanShinobi's one scum read was BM. I really doubt that the one actual read that scum holds among all null reads is on a teammate, especially when you don't anticipate your death. As for Damdred, I'm more hesitant of the lynch because he came from a different site where playstyles and habits and whatnot might just straight up be different. I agree he is laidback and doesn't have strong convictions, but I could see town doing that too. townies don't lie for no reason. you can't play this game if you think townies lie about random things for no reason. then every single case is dismissable on the grounds that "he's just doing whatever". when townies lie they think "hey, if i say this and that something might come of it" but that's absolutely not what bill murray is doing right now. he just said something because he thought he would get town cred or spread chaos or whatever and then he said some more shit about a claim and then he left because "fuck this". obiwan did indeed point his finger at bm but not really. he didn't vote for him or anything, it was really just an offhand remark and then a slight followup because of something BM happened to say to him to him. i wouldn't draw any conclusions from that. | ||
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On July 11 2014 19:06 Bill Murray wrote: I'm sorry, guys there's no way you're not getting lynched until you adequately explain 1) why did you fake claim roleblock 2) why did you track koshi 3) why did you out sinani | ||
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On July 11 2014 19:12 Koshi wrote: pretty sure he tracked Sinani. Also did you read my message in our QT? we friends? no. i gave you enough chances and you kept trolling. i closed the tab, delete the chrome history entries, and the host PM with the link. not going to risk going into the qt and then you're just trolling me for the 1000th time, i would figuratively literally lose my mind. | ||
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On July 12 2014 03:15 yamato77 wrote: I still really like a ritoky lynch who'd you rather lynch of damdred and mderg? | ||
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i'm town koshi is town scum sinani didn't mason two townies wtf scum bill murray didn't out a mafia tracker for no reason | ||
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i'm so done with lynching people i don't want to lynch | ||
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On July 13 2014 04:24 Damdred wrote: Just going to turn over a townie though oh well i guess we lynch someone else then | ||
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and then posts like On July 12 2014 10:58 Damdred wrote: I guess i could hammer if everyone wants me to... listen he's 100% scum and he dies tomorrow. | ||
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