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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 14:13 GMT
#1427
On July 09 2014 23:11 Alakaslam wrote:
Cora meta.

shut up and vote cora
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 14:14 GMT
#1429
poofter is complete coin flip he should get a vig bullet. Shut up and vote cora
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 14:17 GMT
#1432
On July 09 2014 23:15 prplhz wrote:
i think consolidating on poofter is the best we can achieve today

##Vote TehPoofter

.. really
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 14:20 GMT
#1435
On July 09 2014 23:18 kushm4sta wrote:
fuck lynch is in a few hours i did not know that.
so yeah im still up to page 27 still, but i've been trying to keep up with recent stuff. I should have just gone through suspicious filters instead of trying to read everything.

so yeah I'm going to vote iamp.

##vote iamp

vig this kid.

I cant be bothered to read but ill vote the most active guy anyway give me a break.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 14:23 GMT
#1441
On July 09 2014 23:21 kushm4sta wrote:
Iamp you are so transparent I dont even need to read your whole filter to know you are scum.

cool story bro
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 14:24 GMT
#1445
On July 09 2014 23:22 yamato77 wrote:
we are not lynching Cora

y what possible reason can you have for thinking he is town.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 14:32 GMT
#1453
On July 09 2014 23:28 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 12:45 HaruRH wrote:
To build on to the argument, town|forumite would evaluate everyone who tried to pressure him since it was easy for scum to hop on the forumitewagon. Scum|forumite would instantly feel relieved and settle down for a sheep to get past d1.
I prefer not being lynched no matter my alignment. And no, I don´t think it was easy for scum to jump on the bandwagon, it was a weak case in the first place. Probably everyone who voted for me early are town.


Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 14:33 slOosh wrote:
On July 09 2014 12:45 HaruRH wrote:
To build on to the argument, town|forumite would evaluate everyone who tried to pressure him since it was easy for scum to hop on the forumitewagon. Scum|forumite would instantly feel relieved and settle down for a sheep to get past d1.

This is a reasonable point. Forumite, could you please give your general feels as to the people who have voted you?

Haru, what's your opinion of iamp? (and although part of it is, it is not just a meta case).
Strong townread: Koshi
weak townread: Toades, Alakaslam
weak scumread: SloOsh
no fucking idea: Bill Murray

Also Robik is town and Cora is probably town. They should really stop OMGUSing eachother.


Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 14:32 Bill Murray wrote:
On July 08 2014 19:08 Forumite wrote:
On July 08 2014 10:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: Forumite, I didn't like the reasons he said he was suspicious of Koshi - initially it was because of his fluffy riddle posts at the beginning, and he further went on to say that he "hitched onto" Toad's case on Forumite adding his own "complex reasoning" or whatever. So ultimately that's where his vote is.

And his read on prplhz...like, at first he said like "99% sure" and has described him as confirmed town. And the reasoning he gave is pretty bad - but not one I can really argue with because it's based on a personal metric that may or may not be true.

I want to hear others' thoughts on Forumite. I think ultimately I'd rather wait on him, but I might be convinced to lynch him.
Me calling prplhz 99% townie was another way of saying that I´m never considering him for a lynch, I explained that later. Now Toades tunnels because he didn´t get the answer he wanted, honesty wasn´t good enough. Koshi made a convoluted reasoning why I posted what I posted which was basically WIFOM. I´d find it if his filter wasn´t so bloated. Then sloosh sheeps to fake activity and BM votes without reading my posts. Alakaslam sheeps Toades but this one I can at least understand, he found someone he thinks is town and votes the same way.

Bill Murray, you´ve allready voted for me so post it in the thread. No stealth-votes!

My vote stays on Koshi because his case on me is shit. I don´t like Robik either but could be personal because he´s bad mannered. Robiks preemptive OMGUS looks like a good scum move, but I don´t know anything about either Robik, this might be his normal playstyle.

I was pretty open with wanting to vote you
Evading and lies. There is no pro-town reason to stealth-vote and no, you were not perfectly clear that you wanted to vote me. Even is so, why not post your vote clearly? Is that so hard?


Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 22:23 iamperfection wrote:
On July 09 2014 22:21 Koshi wrote:
I need you votes now!


I have put the most time in this game. The most words. The most scumhunting.

I am now your D1 vote leader.

The lynchlist is iamp/Forumite/Damdred/27nb/Cora



New names can be added with an awesome case for 5 more hours.

We do not discuss lurker lynches.





This post will be spammed a lot.

your a terrible leader if you give people 5 options your outed as leader.

The lynch is cora or damdred today. Those are the ones i feel most confident about.
I actually agree with this. More candidates means it´s easier for scum to direct the vote, it´s much easier with just a few. I liked Toades suggestion to make the lynch between me and iamp, if anyone else is up for the lynch then I want to see a good reason for it.

Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 22:42 HaruRH wrote:
The lynchlist is iamp/Forumite/27nb

Hell no, YOU are not directing town votes, no way.


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On July 09 2014 10:19 batsnacks wrote:
On July 09 2014 10:03 iamperfection wrote:
On July 09 2014 10:02 batsnacks wrote:
I don't know that there are vigs in this game, so I have to disagree that "that's all that needs to be said."

I'm going to continue to worry about it, but if you have some other ideas about what I should be worrying about you can tell me. I still have a lot to catch up on but I'm all about the food for thought.

You can read my post where I gave a read on every player in the game.


This one right?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=58#1141

Instantly this jumps out at me:

"
Forumite For someone that has gotten a lot of shit he hasn't seemed to have backed down at all. I like that he asked bill murray to vote for him that seems super townie to me like he dosnt give a shit about being voted.
Plus his jumping around with votes is very attention grabbing move that scum do not like to do. My gut says he is town
"

I haven't read the part of the thread where this takes place yet so maybe I'm missing some important context BUT: Anyone who asks people to vote for them is scummy. So if you're town reading someone for saying "vote me" I have issues with that.

I agree with the suspicion on damdred though. His posting is really careful and thorough like he's trying not to make mistakes and give people ammunition against him. Reading his filter, looking at this post:

On July 08 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote:
I saw something interesting that I wanted to comment on, forgive me for not entering the thread with a hi everyone i got a lot of reading to do lol. I decided to participate with something that was interesting to me someone was giving a few reads and making themselves look like a townie. I don't think this is a good reason for you to dislike me.


He's treading really, really lightly and a lot of his posts are like that. Careful, apologetic. And the "lol" is out of place. His posts are impeccably formatted; he doesn't even use contractions, but somehow a random "lol" shows up.
Read more carefully, I didn´t ask BM to vote for me, he had allready voted for me without posting about it in the thread, I called him out on that. I didn´t tell him to vote, I told him to be open about having allready voted.


Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 09:04 layabout wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22532833
HIGHLIGHT OF THE THREAD THUSFAR

we have been going just over 48 hours so we have another day?
We have 7 hours and 34 minutes left...

Why in the world would you want the lynch between only me and you how could you possibly come to a conclusion that that is best??????????
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 14:33 GMT
#1455
On July 09 2014 23:32 yamato77 wrote:
I skimmed your filter from catastrophe, iamp, and then found the reasons I wanted to lynch you that game, and decided that it's really not that much different from this game aside from your sheer activity.

I do not like the content of your posts, iamp, and I feel like you've been angling for easy mislynches all game so far.

##Vote iamperfection

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

your scum the activity is a huge part of it and i an no way gave reads on every player in the game. They are totally different and i know their and you know their diffrent.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 14:35 GMT
#1460
On July 09 2014 23:35 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 23:33 iamperfection wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:32 yamato77 wrote:
I skimmed your filter from catastrophe, iamp, and then found the reasons I wanted to lynch you that game, and decided that it's really not that much different from this game aside from your sheer activity.

I do not like the content of your posts, iamp, and I feel like you've been angling for easy mislynches all game so far.

##Vote iamperfection

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

your scum the activity is a huge part of it and i an no way gave reads on every player in the game. They are totally different and i know their and you know their diffrent.

I don't believe your reads post

You're not even acting particularly consistent with it.

There's just no continuity to your actions, iamp.

and no, your activity had nothing to do with why I wanted to lynch you that game.

lol ok bro
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 14:38 GMT
#1467
On July 09 2014 23:38 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 23:36 IAmRobik wrote:
I AM MAFIA. KILL ME PLEASE. Then when I flip cop, don't lynch iamperfection

Thanks.

Just quit the game.

you should go read some guides.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 14:44 GMT
#1477
YOU WILL LYNCH YAMATO IF I GET LYNCHED AND YOU WILL MY READ MY LIST OVER AND OVER IF I GET LYNCHED.

Take a look at forum again i may have been wrong on that one with his most recent action
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 14:49 GMT
#1488
On July 09 2014 23:46 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 23:32 iamperfection wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:28 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 12:45 HaruRH wrote:
To build on to the argument, town|forumite would evaluate everyone who tried to pressure him since it was easy for scum to hop on the forumitewagon. Scum|forumite would instantly feel relieved and settle down for a sheep to get past d1.
I prefer not being lynched no matter my alignment. And no, I don´t think it was easy for scum to jump on the bandwagon, it was a weak case in the first place. Probably everyone who voted for me early are town.


On July 09 2014 14:33 slOosh wrote:
On July 09 2014 12:45 HaruRH wrote:
To build on to the argument, town|forumite would evaluate everyone who tried to pressure him since it was easy for scum to hop on the forumitewagon. Scum|forumite would instantly feel relieved and settle down for a sheep to get past d1.

This is a reasonable point. Forumite, could you please give your general feels as to the people who have voted you?

Haru, what's your opinion of iamp? (and although part of it is, it is not just a meta case).
Strong townread: Koshi
weak townread: Toades, Alakaslam
weak scumread: SloOsh
no fucking idea: Bill Murray

Also Robik is town and Cora is probably town. They should really stop OMGUSing eachother.


On July 09 2014 14:32 Bill Murray wrote:
On July 08 2014 19:08 Forumite wrote:
On July 08 2014 10:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: Forumite, I didn't like the reasons he said he was suspicious of Koshi - initially it was because of his fluffy riddle posts at the beginning, and he further went on to say that he "hitched onto" Toad's case on Forumite adding his own "complex reasoning" or whatever. So ultimately that's where his vote is.

And his read on prplhz...like, at first he said like "99% sure" and has described him as confirmed town. And the reasoning he gave is pretty bad - but not one I can really argue with because it's based on a personal metric that may or may not be true.

I want to hear others' thoughts on Forumite. I think ultimately I'd rather wait on him, but I might be convinced to lynch him.
Me calling prplhz 99% townie was another way of saying that I´m never considering him for a lynch, I explained that later. Now Toades tunnels because he didn´t get the answer he wanted, honesty wasn´t good enough. Koshi made a convoluted reasoning why I posted what I posted which was basically WIFOM. I´d find it if his filter wasn´t so bloated. Then sloosh sheeps to fake activity and BM votes without reading my posts. Alakaslam sheeps Toades but this one I can at least understand, he found someone he thinks is town and votes the same way.

Bill Murray, you´ve allready voted for me so post it in the thread. No stealth-votes!

My vote stays on Koshi because his case on me is shit. I don´t like Robik either but could be personal because he´s bad mannered. Robiks preemptive OMGUS looks like a good scum move, but I don´t know anything about either Robik, this might be his normal playstyle.

I was pretty open with wanting to vote you
Evading and lies. There is no pro-town reason to stealth-vote and no, you were not perfectly clear that you wanted to vote me. Even is so, why not post your vote clearly? Is that so hard?


On July 09 2014 22:23 iamperfection wrote:
On July 09 2014 22:21 Koshi wrote:
I need you votes now!


I have put the most time in this game. The most words. The most scumhunting.

I am now your D1 vote leader.

The lynchlist is iamp/Forumite/Damdred/27nb/Cora



New names can be added with an awesome case for 5 more hours.

We do not discuss lurker lynches.





This post will be spammed a lot.

your a terrible leader if you give people 5 options your outed as leader.

The lynch is cora or damdred today. Those are the ones i feel most confident about.
I actually agree with this. More candidates means it´s easier for scum to direct the vote, it´s much easier with just a few. I liked Toades suggestion to make the lynch between me and iamp, if anyone else is up for the lynch then I want to see a good reason for it.

On July 09 2014 22:42 HaruRH wrote:
The lynchlist is iamp/Forumite/27nb

Hell no, YOU are not directing town votes, no way.


On July 09 2014 10:19 batsnacks wrote:
On July 09 2014 10:03 iamperfection wrote:
On July 09 2014 10:02 batsnacks wrote:
I don't know that there are vigs in this game, so I have to disagree that "that's all that needs to be said."

I'm going to continue to worry about it, but if you have some other ideas about what I should be worrying about you can tell me. I still have a lot to catch up on but I'm all about the food for thought.

You can read my post where I gave a read on every player in the game.


This one right?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=58#1141

Instantly this jumps out at me:

"
Forumite For someone that has gotten a lot of shit he hasn't seemed to have backed down at all. I like that he asked bill murray to vote for him that seems super townie to me like he dosnt give a shit about being voted.
Plus his jumping around with votes is very attention grabbing move that scum do not like to do. My gut says he is town
"

I haven't read the part of the thread where this takes place yet so maybe I'm missing some important context BUT: Anyone who asks people to vote for them is scummy. So if you're town reading someone for saying "vote me" I have issues with that.

I agree with the suspicion on damdred though. His posting is really careful and thorough like he's trying not to make mistakes and give people ammunition against him. Reading his filter, looking at this post:

On July 08 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote:
I saw something interesting that I wanted to comment on, forgive me for not entering the thread with a hi everyone i got a lot of reading to do lol. I decided to participate with something that was interesting to me someone was giving a few reads and making themselves look like a townie. I don't think this is a good reason for you to dislike me.


He's treading really, really lightly and a lot of his posts are like that. Careful, apologetic. And the "lol" is out of place. His posts are impeccably formatted; he doesn't even use contractions, but somehow a random "lol" shows up.
Read more carefully, I didn´t ask BM to vote for me, he had allready voted for me without posting about it in the thread, I called him out on that. I didn´t tell him to vote, I told him to be open about having allready voted.


On July 09 2014 09:04 layabout wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22532833
HIGHLIGHT OF THE THREAD THUSFAR

we have been going just over 48 hours so we have another day?
We have 7 hours and 34 minutes left...

Why in the world would you want the lynch between only me and you how could you possibly come to a conclusion that that is best??????????

Koshis earlier proposed 5 lynches means it´s easy for scum to jump on whichever they want and guarantee a mislynch. With just 2 candidates it´s much harder for scum to manipulate without revealing themselves. Of course this is assuming there´s scum among the candidates but I like metacase on you. It went unnoticed for hours and now there is a surge of other possible candidates for the lynch, both good signs.

you would supposedly know your town. Lynching town isnt good.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 14:52 GMT
#1491
im out for a few hours ill be back before the deadline.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 15:03 GMT
#1511
yamato is scum robik do nt bother arguing with him .
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 15:04 GMT
#1513
On July 10 2014 00:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 23:59 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:57 Koshi wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:54 Forumite wrote:
I´m also defending Corazon

I´m also getting really unsure about this lynch.

##Unvote

Doesn't matter anymore.

A town lynch is better than a no lynch. Simply because the towns on the no lynch can move on and we can trust iamperfection his reads.

It is what it is. iamperfection is the lynch.



None of the other candidates for lynch have good cases on them. There are currently 5 people on iamp that really believe he is scum. Nobody else comes close.


Please put your vote back on iamp.

STOP IT KOSHI -- YOURE ACCUSATION OF IAMP IS TERRIBAD
stop stop stop stop stop.

I'd rather you just misylnch me now over iamp because you guys are all donkies and unworthy of being in a game with me

I am going to reply to you 1 more time for the entire game.
I do not like your personality. It is quickly moving to a point in which I don't want to play games with you anymore.
You are the first person that comes even close to this in my life.

You can keep flaming me. I will ignore you. This game is over between us till I see your alignment and we can PM.

are you serious he just trying to stop your dumb lynch.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 15:07 GMT
#1521
On July 10 2014 00:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Like both of you are doing nothing but follow BH scum advice

all you do is babble
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 15:12 GMT
#1532
On July 10 2014 00:10 yamato77 wrote:
I am 100% on iamp being mafia

There is no way your town if you think this no way.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 15:25 GMT
#1555
On July 09 2014 23:44 iamperfection wrote:
YOU WILL LYNCH YAMATO IF I GET LYNCHED AND YOU WILL MY READ MY LIST OVER AND OVER IF I GET LYNCHED.

Take a look at forum again i may have been wrong on that one with his most recent action

what?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 15:28 GMT
#1558
On July 10 2014 00:26 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 00:19 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:17 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:15 Forumite wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:13 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:11 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 10 2014 00:10 Toadesstern wrote:
forumite testing my faith... I want to lynch IamP but damn that random unvote and revote with "I really don't like it" after saying the lynch is between him and iamp looks so damn delicious

I noticed that too and threw up a little in my mouth

let's just hope they're both mafia and it makes sense that way o/
No need to overthink things when I can't figure out which way it is anyways...

Toades, what do you think about robik defending iamp?

he's emotional, he doesn't make sense while doing it and it all comes down to his innitial read that he doesn't want to give up on.

Give me a point by point case on why iamp is mafia besides "phil made a case on him one game"

I'm heading out for some shopping right now so it's going to be short
  • the case DOES fit
  • he's a lot more involved in his towngames, as already pointed out when I quoted and responded to the case, as opposed to this game
  • he's involved in a way where he does something himself without being poked to death about it until it happens
  • the one post he did was horrible and made on the fly without thinking about it


See you in about an hour

how in the world am i not involved im super involved.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 09 2014 15:30 GMT
#1561
On July 10 2014 00:29 Vivax wrote:
The thing bothering me about iamp is just the timing of that reads post.
It came right after Toad pointed out how he made similar posts in other games where he was town.
Which made me think he could have made it just for the purpose of appearing town.

Anyway still need to finish a few pages.

i had planed on it anyways i do it all my games and have even done it in a scum game.
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