EPTAnd now it sounds to me like he visted a guy and got back 2 names.
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Toadesstern
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And now it sounds to me like he visted a guy and got back 2 names. | ||
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On July 14 2014 00:37 VisceraEyes wrote: Because I think BM is mafia? I guess we can lynch kush, but I REALLY REALLY wanna lynch mafia today. REALLY bad. yeah that's my issue here as well... I really think BM is mafia and his story makes no sense whatsoever. But on the offchance of it actually being true and just not making sense because BM is lying for shitz and giggles as townie it does make Kush look really bad. Wouldn't mind a Forumite lynch one bit to bypass that somewhat troublesome decision for today... If this was anyone else who said Kush visited sinani I'd instalynch Kush but it's BM who said it. On top of that we have 2 dead people with an already flipped OP-VIG from mafia and Kush supposedly visited 2 people. The visit on Layabout wasn't a kill-visit even if Kush is mafia if we take that into consideration. So it's either a mafia with another role who RB'ed Laya and carried out the nightkill on Sinani or it's something entirely different (still assuming BM isn't lying) | ||
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Anyways would be happy if we can drag this out for a while. Todays WC finals GER vs ARG (I'm from Germnay if people haven't realized by now) and TI at the same time. So while I manage to get some things in here during drafts and all that it's going to be really tough today  | ||
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On July 14 2014 01:45 slOosh wrote: Yea that seems like it is it. I have no reason to doubt BM. ##Vote: kushm4sta We have every reason to doubt BM there could possibly be... the question is wether he's telling the truth despite that lol | ||
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On July 14 2014 01:47 slOosh wrote: I know people are up in arms about his lying about roleblock, but everything else looks really consistent. At worst scum BM is offering a one for one on kush? Most likely BM is town tracker who caught scum. nothing is consistent.
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On July 14 2014 01:56 layabout wrote: Toad what do you think of the idea that BM is a town tracker and tracked Kush doing maifa things last night and kush was calling BM scum to try to get 1 last mislynch? certainly possible | ||
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On July 14 2014 01:58 slOosh wrote: Sure. I agree that those are truths, but to me they don't necessarily indicate scum. What I care about more is his N2 action claim, how he did it, and kush's response. BM tracked kush, and found him visiting two people, layabout and sinani. Sinani died. What role allows you to visit two people? I dunno, but scum factional KP does that. that's exactly what I'm saying... On July 14 2014 00:45 Toadesstern wrote: Either the guy straight up found mafia because it's scumKP + something else scummy like RB on someone else or whatever else like I already pointed out as well OR BM isn't town. Those are the two options here... | ||
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50/50. One of BM / Kush is mafia and the other is town. | ||
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On July 14 2014 02:06 layabout wrote: 50/50 is avoiding making a judgement BM's behavior is also consistent with him being caught scumslipping. So my point is that we're not getting anywhere further than a 50/50 with this: On July 14 2014 00:45 Toadesstern wrote: yeah that's my issue here as well... I really think BM is mafia and his story makes no sense whatsoever. But on the offchance of it actually being true and just not making sense because BM is lying for shitz and giggles as townie it does make Kush look really bad. Wouldn't mind a Forumite lynch one bit to bypass that somewhat troublesome decision for today... If this was anyone else who said Kush visited sinani I'd instalynch Kush but it's BM who said it. On top of that we have 2 dead people with an already flipped OP-VIG from mafia and Kush supposedly visited 2 people. The visit on Layabout wasn't a kill-visit even if Kush is mafia if we take that into consideration. So it's either a mafia with another role who RB'ed Laya and carried out the nightkill on Sinani or it's something entirely different (still assuming BM isn't lying) If BM is actually town he can go on tracking people because apparantly mafia is not afraid of him and don't RB him. Another point in the picture not fitting: Why did it come to this to begin with? Why didn't they simply RB him or something like that... sure it could be possible that there's no RB but RB is probably the most comming mafia role in any game and yet BM claims tracker, does not get rb'ed, shot or whatever else and conveniently finds mafia the next night? How can you claim you're so sure about this that you want kush lnched? | ||
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Didn't lynch forumite d1 and instead went with the case from Koshi Shot ObiWan (a guy I pushed for on d1) Didn't lynch the one I wanted lynched the most d2 and instead went with the case from someone else Looks like I'm not getting my forumite lynch today either. Because BM / Kush are like 90% certain 1 town and 1 mafia but no idea which way. | ||
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##vote Kush | ||
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On July 14 2014 02:56 Damdred wrote: I guess bm claim of a roleblock could come from robs power and the link being more randomized that time ma I wish kush could defend himself right now but one or the other is mafia id go with kuah because of his response ? BM wasn't roleblocked. How should he know that he was missing one of the targets from sinani as either mafia or town? How should he only be partially roleblocked to the point that he got one of the results but not the other one? There are explanations for that but RB's isn't one of them lol | ||
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Mafia doesn't seem to roleblock or shoot BM for whatever reason), so might as well let him keep tracking and prove this whole thing that way? That way we'd be more certain one which one of those 2 is lying with a mafia agenda (<--- had to put that there for the chance of BM being town and lying for shitz and giggles) If BM gets shot during the night and flips town because they obviously don't have a RB we instalynch Kush. If BM doesn't get shot we either get another track result or forcing him to keep this thing up depending on wether he's town or mafia. Both helpful for us. | ||
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On July 14 2014 03:22 Forumite wrote: Toades, make up your mind. Lynch me and be done with it if you want to but don´t drag it out. You are one of the towniest players in the game except for this one constant FoS on me. I´m calling it: If I and Toades are alive at LYLO then I guarantee that he has been scum all along, only keeping me around for an easy late-game lynch. if I'm alive at lylo people lynch me... because like you said, I kind of shouldn't be alive at lylo | ||
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we have a watcher on top of that. If BM is actually town we have everything we need to deal with it. If BM get's no result he was either RB'ed by mafia or shot by mafia and VE will see that, assuming VE is telling the truth. | ||
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On July 14 2014 07:22 ritoky wrote: yes, there's a possibility that kush thought sinani's claim was bs and shot him. that is a possible world. i mean, if both KP weren't mafia KP; i thought prp was more town than sinani the entire game, so of the two if i were vig, the more likely shot would have been sinani. do you think both KP were mafia KP? no there's no way that happened. literally no way. It's quite obvious that KP is missing from n1 and not the other way around. Also + Show Spoiler + http://gfycat.com/SplendidZigzagGorilla FUCK YES | ||
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On July 14 2014 08:14 ritoky wrote: still don't particularly like how BM baited like he was going to claim on me then claimed on the banned person who can't respond. but i will go with Occam's razor like the rest of you. ##vote kushm4sta the claim happened before the ban if I'm not horribly mistaken. The whole conversation pattern that laya quoted could not have happened had he been banned at that time... | ||
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The other way around is a bit tricky because I'm no medic and I don't know if we have some to begin with, but VE claimed watcher. But mafia still has to be afraid to be shooting into laya because we might have some. | ||
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