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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 18:00 GMT
#2208
On July 11 2014 17:35 Bill Murray wrote:
I tracked Sinani to Koshi last night.


This is the first time BM mentions Sinani in his filter. No mention before that at all. Why did you track Sinani BM?
Especially considering that there's other posts like this in your filter:

On July 09 2014 14:56 Bill Murray wrote:
I'm gonna answer that. I dont like Iamperfection for his hypocrisy relating to whether or not people do anything, but I still feel like Forumite is a better lynch, because of his flailing + scumslip

I don't see anything that points me towards voting Iamp over a lurker

Just my .02 take it with a grain of salt


Would usually make me think you'd check someone like Forumite instead oO
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 18:02 GMT
#2209
On July 12 2014 02:58 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 02:56 Toadesstern wrote:
actually never mind that, could be interpreted in various ways.

Still don't like the html tags though.


I'm curious, What ways are there to interpret it?

I thought about it being a bitchy way to say "nice try but sadly your effort was in vain, because XXX"
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 18:21 GMT
#2214
On July 12 2014 03:12 Damdred wrote:
At least its two votes till hammer instead of one Koshi.

Toad do you think that bm is scummier than Mderg?


about equal right now. I however don't want to vote Mderg right now with there already being that many votes on him when we can still use this time we got. When palmar tells me that I need to get voting I'll see about it but not sooner.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 19:12 GMT
#2218
On July 12 2014 04:01 layabout wrote:
might need to rush off and i dont have time for full analysis but...

these were the 3 main important lynches:
obwian (Mafia) forumite(?) and iamp(town)

obi wagon at it's highest
Show nested quote +
obiwanshinobi (4): prplhz, exo_, visceraeyes, yamato77

i feel like prplhz and exo are town but might need to look over it

fourmite wagons at it's highest
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forumite (7): toadesstern, sloosh, harurh, visceraeyes, bill, alakaslam, koshi

toad sloosh and huruh are the ones i would be least confident calling town followed by billl

full iamp wagon:
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iamperfection (14): prplhz, toadesstern, sloosh, harurh, visceraeyes, obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta, yamato77, alakaslam, koshi, forumite, vivax , sinani, corazon


people on iamp wagon that weren't on either of the other two
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iamperfection (14): obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta, forumite, vivax , sinani, corazon

of this group we know obi was mafia and that corazon was town, i am willing to label kush and sinani town so this suggest vivax or forumite is scum

playerlist minus 3 main wagons
IAmRobik town
iamperfection town
layabout
ritoky
batsnacks
mderg
Damdred
Forumite
HiroPro
Tehpoofter 3rd party
27ninjabunnies 3rd party

maybe someone could colour it?

how am I part of the least townish guys when I was the one pushing ObiWan as well? Do you really think I'd bus that guy d1 as mafia oO
What about the whole part where everyone agrees that I played a really obvious town d1?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 20:53 GMT
#2246
Has BM explained why he picked Sinani, the guy he never mentioned in his filter even just once before the claim yet?
As far as I know, no he hasn't... I still think he scumslipped and nothing else with his RB. He did not know that there are no RB-notifications. If he did not know that fact there's no reason to do that as a townie.

As for mderg, I agree with Koshi, I like that post from him.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 21:04 GMT
#2254
On July 12 2014 05:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 05:53 Toadesstern wrote:
Has BM explained why he picked Sinani, the guy he never mentioned in his filter even just once before the claim yet?
As far as I know, no he hasn't... I still think he scumslipped and nothing else with his RB. He did not know that there are no RB-notifications. If he did not know that fact there's no reason to do that as a townie.

As for mderg, I agree with Koshi, I like that post from him.

So how did BM know that Sinani visited me?

never said he's not a tracker, I said the RB part was a lie and he wasn't aware of there not being notifications.

He hasn't even explained why he lied about the RB yet. Put yourself in his shoes and let's assume you're a townie who's lying for some reason. So you got figured out and people point out the no notification. Would you really just ignore that? Hell no, you would explain your stupid plan and how it's supposed to catch mafia and how awesome it is and how that's the reason he lied. He never cared to explain that part, that's because he never cared about the RB to begin with and just did it for shitz and giggles without a reason. Why would you do that as town?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 21:12 GMT
#2260
On July 12 2014 06:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 06:04 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 12 2014 05:54 Koshi wrote:
On July 12 2014 05:53 Toadesstern wrote:
Has BM explained why he picked Sinani, the guy he never mentioned in his filter even just once before the claim yet?
As far as I know, no he hasn't... I still think he scumslipped and nothing else with his RB. He did not know that there are no RB-notifications. If he did not know that fact there's no reason to do that as a townie.

As for mderg, I agree with Koshi, I like that post from him.

So how did BM know that Sinani visited me?

never said he's not a tracker, I said the RB part was a lie and he wasn't aware of there not being notifications.

He hasn't even explained why he lied about the RB yet. Put yourself in his shoes and let's assume you're a townie who's lying for some reason. So you got figured out and people point out the no notification. Would you really just ignore that? Hell no, you would explain your stupid plan and how it's supposed to catch mafia and how awesome it is and how that's the reason he lied. He never cared to explain that part, that's because he never cared about the RB to begin with and just did it for shitz and giggles without a reason. Why would you do that as town?

I agree. But claiming RB for shitz and giggles is really strange. Especially because I don't see what he could gain from it as mafia. Towncred? meh.

I was voting BM btw, so it's not that I don't see what you mean.

I've seen people either claim being RB'ed as mafia or at least discussing it in mafia QT in I think about 4 out of my last 5 games as mafia? Maybe that trend stopped over the last year but for what I know shooting and RB'ing the same guy on n1 when you have very little reads about blues, thus hiding your RB and claiming it on one of your own guys for towncred is probably the most common mafia strategy on all of TL mafia?

Even better in this game because you don't have to hide it because no notifications...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 21:16 GMT
#2262
I'd be fine with all three of forumite, BM and mderg to be honest and willing to instahammer any of the three really but I do want the additional time pretty please.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 21:25 GMT
#2264
no result would be the same as tracking a VT I assume so it wouldn't really explain the "I got rb'ed" at all
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 21:35 GMT
#2268
That should still be one off of treshhold because of the unvote, right?

well my case on iamP failed horribly. My case on Forumite is still up in the air.

My single point on Obi where I mentioned "lol doesn't sound like you're part of town" was a huge success and I'd say it's the same thing really. Not really role speculation that much but rather wether things make sense given what they said. That's the reason I was so much on him not ever mentioning Sinani before the claim but allegedly having him picked over a Forumite who scumslipped according to BM.

I did think about the possibility that our Mystery Man (now known as Sinani) could be the guy who masoned you but thought better of it because BM should have gotten 2 trackresults that way.

Anyways I agree that mderg or forumite are the safer options here. BM has that slight chance to be just whatever.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 22:02 GMT
#2276
On July 12 2014 06:50 HiroPro wrote:
Let's play a game here everyone. There are two players who both have a lot of suspicion on them. The majority of players have expressed suspicion on these two and there have been only 1 or 2 players who have voiced any defenses of these suspects. Yet one of them is on the verge of being hammered and the other has had two votes on him all game long. Which of these do you think is more likely mafia?

what did you make of forumite vs IamP yesterday?

That's an argument that can be made both ways.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 23:08 GMT
#2285
On July 12 2014 08:02 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 07:59 Koshi wrote:
Mderg I am supertired.
Why are you town?

Give us all the reasons.

I´m honestly too tired to do that. The probability of me not being lynched is 0%

let's assume you're not to be lynched. Who do you lynch? You can bully anyone and get your pick.

Who is it and why. A little more in detail than your overview of reads.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 12 2014 02:37 GMT
#2299
shoot BM, thanks...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 12 2014 13:35 GMT
#2318
if BM survives the night and I later on find out there was a vig who could have shot BM I will be mad.

Best case scenario: We killed a fucking mafia BM!!
Worst case scenario: We killed a BM and all the people bitching about how he's supposed to answer questions he keeps ignoring will stop bothering with that.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 12 2014 17:02 GMT
#2326
On July 13 2014 01:54 Koshi wrote:
From the top I would be wary of Toad if he keeps doing absolutely nothing. Don't know but D2 was somewhat poor? I think so.


if BM flips red I caught a fucking scumslip that people ignored to get the guy you wanted lynched instead...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 12 2014 17:29 GMT
#2332
On July 13 2014 02:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 01:57 Forumite wrote:
It´s night, why are people talking? Anyone who feel they are about to be shot should post reads, otherwise shut up. Talking just gives scum more tips on who to kill.

Just another reason to kill Forumite. Guys stop ignoring this guy and kill him plz.

that statement from him really is weird...


What do you make of my thesis that townies without balls of steel (guys like you, Marv, VE and the like) usually tend to not talk a lot during night because they don't want to get shot, even if just unconsciously. On the other hand mafias don't feel that threat so they don't just lurk the nights and in comparison to townies post a bunch more than they did during day.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 12 2014 17:46 GMT
#2338
On July 13 2014 02:44 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 02:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 13 2014 01:57 Forumite wrote:
It´s night, why are people talking? Anyone who feel they are about to be shot should post reads, otherwise shut up. Talking just gives scum more tips on who to kill.

Just another reason to kill Forumite. Guys stop ignoring this guy and kill him plz.

Are you serious? There´s no point in talking during the night. The night is for blues and scum, talking just gives scum more info on who is best to kill and what the blues might be doing. Unless you think you are going to get shot, shut up and wait until tomorrow.

night is the time for shenanigans
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 12 2014 17:51 GMT
#2343
On July 13 2014 02:47 layabout wrote:
We can lunch bm for being confusing and not giving a shit but it's a dull road my feet tire of treading and beginning of the day set lynches kill the thread super goddamn hard and remove any pressure for town and mafia alike to actually play

that's exactly why I want him shot. I don't exactly feel like pushing a d3 pseudo policy lynch that is about wether people think it was a scumslip and people who think it wasn't and nothing else to talk about for that particular lynch.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 13 2014 14:35 GMT
#2494
Why is BM still alive god damn it...
##vote BM
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 13 2014 15:15 GMT
#2496
On July 13 2014 20:15 Bill Murray wrote:
Kush killed Sinani last night... well, it IS kush, so I'm not counting it out that he had a role like Sinani's... but he's likely scum because he didn't really no visit... he was on Sinani, layabout... so layabout if you want to come forward and say whether or not this happened that would be very helpful right now....


wait was that a "he was on Sinani and layabout" or am I misinterpreting things here?
But that's an unvote, if Kush really was on Sinani that needs some consideration.
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