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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 00:39 GMT
#2023
and just like that my scrambled eggs are ruined. I take back everything I said about loving you VE, should not have responded
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 01:08 GMT
#2027
You realy don't have to ask me about forumite, everyone knows what I think about him
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 01:35 GMT
#2041
On July 11 2014 10:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe I prefer a Forumite lynch today. Maybe layabout CAN manipulate me.

##Unvote
##Vote: Forumite

I like my BM vote until he starts explaining
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 01:44 GMT
#2046
I don't think ritoky needed defending yesterday from a mafias point of view at all. It was between IamP and forumite and he could have easily ignored the ritoky case (assuming ritoky is mafia) or done whatever the fuck he wants because ritoky wasn't going to get lynched anyways.

If anything what I'm reading from that is that he wanted to go with the crowd and put some pseudo reasoning behind his iamp-vote by stating that alternatives are stupid.

The BM part however is interesting
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 01:52 GMT
#2052
On July 11 2014 10:45 slOosh wrote:
Also to get some more feedback on my thoughts

D1 felt like very little scum manipulation was involved. Koshi Toad and I started the iamp wagon, and drummed up support and people hopped on. I think generally scum team got lazy and played very passively, just posting to avoid attention but not active in town direction.

So from scum team perspective how I would have tried to approach D2 is point out people on the iamp wagon as being scummy / opportunistic. Which a couple of people have done. ritoky pointing out yamato, hiropro pointing out VE, uhh ... mderg pointing out yamato / VE sort of. Not that this necessarily makes them scum, but it's where I would look.

But then N1 blows up their plans since ObiWanShinobi flips town and yamato and VE look real good, and now they don't know what to do or say and they have like no thread presence.

In conclusion: I wanna kill all the lurkers cause it's most likely scum are in there.

At least, that's my interpretation of the game so far.

Uhh I need to reread Forumite to see if town atmosphere felt similar or different to his wagon vs. iamp wagon. Yes, I will do that after a nap.

yeah agree. It does support the "there's bound to be mafia in the non-iamp voters who just parked their vote doing nothing all day long"-thesis.
BM looks bad that way, damdred looks bad, mderg looks reasonably bad if I can trust you guys without reading about him.
At the same time we know that bunnies and ExO aren't mafia. The first one for sure, the 2nd one pretty unlikely to be mafia
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 02:31 GMT
#2067
On July 11 2014 11:15 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 23:06 Palmar wrote:


ObiWanShinobi the Mafia Janitor is dead
Janitor

When someone needs to not only die, but disappear, you are the man for the job. Feeding victims to pigs is just monday in your world.

Twice in the game you can send in the name of a player. You will kill that player, and his body will mysteriously disappear. The target will not flip.

You win when the mafia can not be stopped.

You are also able to deliver one mafia KP per night, in addition to your abilities.


We aren't allowed to ask questions to the mod in the thread, but the way this is worded is disturbing to me. Cuz normal janitor has the body flip but it flips as ??????. This says the person mysteriously disappears and will not flip. So uhhhh, does that mean someone could be dead in the game right now and we don't know about it?

If that's the case I might just systematically start voting on every single person in the game, wait for a vote count to confirm they are alive, then move to the next person.

not flip usually means just what you said. We'll be told someone is dead but not what his role and alignment were.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 03:12 GMT
#2073
So if one out of Koshi + Prplhz is mafia, which one is it ?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 03:17 GMT
#2076
Doesn't have to be, I'm just thinking about the mason-stuff.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 03:30 GMT
#2078
so just doublechecked, there was no further explanation to it.

Long story short: I think that as long as koshi isn't the guy who masoned himself it's somewhat likely they were masoned by mafia. I don't think prplhz masoned them judging by his reaction. I don't think a townie would have thought they'd make a good couple either so really the only explanation left would be either Koshi not caring and just masoning himself or them being masoned by mafia.
If they got masoned by mafia it's really unlikely for them both to be town.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 03:32 GMT
#2079
And if Koshi was the guy who masoned I would think masoning someone like me (yes egocentric much but he WAS fawning over me all of d1) would be more likely...
Actually I guess he could be using it to try and figure out prplhz as well... time to check what he thought about prplhz earlier
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 03:38 GMT
#2080
okay forget about that part, it's getting too confusing and no meaningful way to figure this out without more information, especially wether it's a day-mason or a night-mason... keep it in your mind for later on though
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 03:48 GMT
#2082
On July 11 2014 04:42 prplhz wrote:
if you read obiwan's filter and didn't think he looked scummy then i just think a townie would be more likely to say "i don't think he looks scummy is why i'm not voting him, why would i think he looks scummy?" and not "show me a case and maybe i'll bother"

On July 11 2014 05:28 prplhz wrote:
whoever the fuck masoned me with koshi can suck a dick

both post post n1, the first one happened before the second one.
Looks like they got masoned during the day and not during the night to me

so it is indeed possible that it was Koshi trying to figure out prplhz
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 04:43 GMT
#2087
I think he's claiming that he fakeclaimed being RB'ed, instead tracked someone, that someone visited Koshi last night and had some convoluted masterplan to net someone by fakeclaiming RB.
And the bad part is that, like I mentioned, I have to take that at face value...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 04:54 GMT
#2089
On July 11 2014 13:43 Toadesstern wrote:
I think he's claiming that he fakeclaimed being RB'ed, instead tracked someone, that someone visited Koshi last night and had some convoluted masterplan to net someone by fakeclaiming RB.
And the bad part is that, like I mentioned, I have to take that at face value...

okay continuing that thought:

BM tracked someone he considered to be scummy because why else would you track someone, right?
So he allegedly has someone who visited Koshi on n1. The question about wether he should out him is because he consideres Koshi a person that is likely to also draw medics and the like, so it's possible that his scumtarget wasn't scum but a medic. At the same time mafia targeting Koshi with WHATEVER is equally likely though

Considering that I don't believe this story at all, no we're probably better off without the added confusion, especially if the guy you checked was scummy enough to warrant a track but not shady as fuck enough for you to instantly out him... I mean you check someone because you think he's mafia and you don't even have the balls to out him because he could be a townie afterwards? Wtf? There's just no way a townie with a track on someone would think that, he'd be jumping in joy about how you netted someone

Sadly enough this is BM and I can't say so with certainty...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 05:16 GMT
#2092
come on, spit it out. As much as I like playing detective, giving some straight forward answer would actually be something
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 05:42 GMT
#2097
exactly and that makes Koshi pretty much confirmed town (assuming BM is telling the truth... as if lol) because were that to be the case one guy shot Koshi and one guy protected Koshi and BM got one of those.
That explains possibly missing KP.
It does not explain how BM was so sure about the guy being mafia n1 that he wanted him tracked above everyone else in the game and now chickening out because he actually got a track result...

Best case scenario would be if Koshi is a VET (still assuming BM is somehow telling us the truth) but that's a little far fetched to hope for.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 06:07 GMT
#2100
On July 11 2014 14:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
I was a bulletproof SK third party in the last Storm.

Just throwin that out there.

are you telling me Koshi needs lynching? I'd do that for shitz and giggles + Show Spoiler +
probably+ Show Spoiler +
maybe+ Show Spoiler +
...probably not. Where did my sense for adventure go

On July 11 2014 14:48 HiroPro wrote:
Let's imagine that you're a mafia player who got caught with his pants down like this.

Do you:

a) fake-claim
b) ignore any questions as to why you lied
c) try to out some power roles
d) all of the above

and now you know why I've been so mad at layabout...

The whole thing just doesn't make sense because why'd he say he got RB'ed ON PURPOSE as a townie? On purpose means he knew about there not being RB-notifications. If he knows there are no RBs notifications to begin with I just don't see him doing some crazy plan either because he'd just assume that other people know about it as well OR that at least SOMEONE would point it out because "omg I just found mafia" (point proven by layabout and me) before anything happens.

So there's about NO way that he knew about this thing with no notifications. Absolutely no way.
If he doesn't know about there not being notifications there's no town agenda behind some convoluted plan because the knowledge would be needed for that. Thus I'm pretty fucking sure the guy is mafia who slipped but wanted it confirmed with my question because there is always that chance that the guy is just crazy and palmar literally flips a coins the moment he's dead to decide what BM will flip...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 17:46 GMT
#2201
On July 11 2014 23:28 Damdred wrote:
To me Exo showed that he was pretty town with the vote on obi and his flip doesn't make any sense for a mafia at that point to help a movement on such a good role when it could of really gained momentum at that point.

<b>##Vote: Mderg</b>

do you know who uses html tags? People talking in quick topics
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 17:53 GMT
#2204
Seeing as this
On July 09 2014 01:44 Toadesstern wrote:

on ObiWan
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 01:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2014 01:37 Vivax wrote:
Can Cav, Robik and VE explain what about kush's post makes him instascum?


i voted him to blend in with the town.

i was really hoping nobody would call me on it shit gg.

I know it's supposed to be a joke but that kind of phrase always makes me think the person in question isn't part of town himself... I wanted to blend in WITH THE TOWN.... who the fuck says that

Was ObiWan the one VE pushed? I know he pushed mderg recently but I think someone was on ObiWan as well
worked out an awful lot better than the case on Iamp and the case on forumite has still to show wether it does bear any results:

On July 12 2014 02:48 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 02:46 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 11 2014 23:28 Damdred wrote:
To me Exo showed that he was pretty town with the vote on obi and his flip doesn't make any sense for a mafia at that point to help a movement on such a good role when it could of really gained momentum at that point.

<b>##Vote: Mderg</b>

do you know who uses html tags? People talking in quick topics


:Yea I do know how to use html tags .....sadly I was just playing around on a forum that used old html so you had to use the <> brackets and I just wasn't thinking when i posted


so you do feel distressed about the fact that you just used html tags?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 17:56 GMT
#2205
actually never mind that, could be interpreted in various ways.

Still don't like the html tags though.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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