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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 02:04 GMT
#724
I find it curious that you got good vibes from but somehow missed it since half his posts are about it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 02:11 GMT
#730
On July 08 2014 11:07 ExO_ wrote:
How much time is left in day 1?

as much as I say. So much more at this point.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 02:18 GMT
#736
On July 08 2014 11:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On July 08 2014 11:11 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 11:07 ExO_ wrote:
How much time is left in day 1?

as much as I say. So much more at this point.

What do YOU think about mderg iamp? Can we plz lynch sir?

I think nothing of him and your case didn't impress me.

Why you being so nice to me usually your always fighting with me. Trying to get on my good side?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 02:40 GMT
#740
Hrm maybe ve is town. Thinking about it more you would think he would be more careful with his posting especially early on then to miss the kush thing.

Unfortunate I would have taken great pleasure in lynching him.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 02:47 GMT
#742
On that note I think I'll go to bed.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 02:52 GMT
#746
On July 08 2014 11:49 kushm4sta wrote:
iamp what happened to you not being chatty?

I lied
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 02:54 GMT
#748
On July 08 2014 11:53 kushm4sta wrote:
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On July 08 2014 11:52 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 11:49 kushm4sta wrote:
iamp what happened to you not being chatty?

I lied

why did you lie tho

Do I really have to spell it out for you it's obvious what happened.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 02:56 GMT
#750
Yeah sure that's it
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 12:53 GMT
#861
On July 08 2014 18:40 Koshi wrote:
Yes. I am. But I am reading filters and making a gigantic post. Will take a lot of time. Maybe I should just post it in parts. Yes. smart. I will.

Overview of interesting things in filters. No conclusions.

Prplhz:
- Defends Forumite from the start and continues to do so. Ex. Stating Forumite might have a good reason for his 99% townread without asking what the townread is. Ex. Arguing with slOosh about the question Forumite asked.
- Very outspoken and aggressive. Ex. Entrance, towards Sinani and Exo, SlOosh vote.

Iamperfection:
- Many superficial posts. Page 3 is a good example. Both his Robik read and Damdred read are lazy.
- Asked for 10 vigis. Should have been max 4 for somebody who has been in the thread the entire game. Again shows laziness.

Toadesstern:
- First case in the game, second case in the game. Both cases had scumhunting thoughtprocess behind them. Constant in search for scum.
- After reading 1,5 pages confirmed town till lylo and blueclaims. (because he can’t be alive as town till then unless mass saves or something)

Corazon:
- This post is very town:
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On July 08 2014 03:33 Corazon wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:25 iamperfection wrote:
Iamrobik is like the most active poster i dont think he is scum and should only reassess this if on day 6 when im long dead he is still around. worry about it then. Discussion on iamrobik being scum can stop.

What the hell Iamp? The 4-5 posts in my filter have 30 times as much content and purpose as his entire filter.
If all I did was post meme's, one-liners, and rage posts whenever someone called me scum, would you REALLY count that as activity?

Reading Corazon his filter it is clear to me from the start that he is trying to push the game forward. He started with giving his opinion on 4 protagonists (Toad/Koshi/Forumite/Robik) and then trew out a comment on Yamato. Making the above post 2 minutes after reading iamps post indicates to me that Corazon is very aware of Robik his filter and is very confident about his own filter. Something a scummer wouldn’t be so confident about.

slOosh:
- Made a good case on Forumite and limited his posts around Forumite. However, SlOosh never stated to not have read the thread and was open for any questions about anything. Nowhere he shows a lack of confidence.

Vivax:
I want to point out the difference in iamp (because I already read his) and Vivax his filter by quoting these 5 posts that Vivax chained:
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On July 08 2014 00:51 Vivax wrote:
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On July 08 2014 00:11 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:55 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:52 iamperfection wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:38 prplhz wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all.
k, I don´t care about townreads unless we´re close to the lynch.

On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment
What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.

On July 07 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

The fact you say I am ruining the thread hurts me more than you voting me. I am the entertainment value here.
Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die.

about 75% of the posts have been useless including mine why pick koshi over anyone else.


I'm interested into this too.

Prpl, what do you think of Toad's stuff so far? I'd have expected you to fight back in some way by now.
I'm actively withholding judgement on Toades. My first reaction was to ignore my read on Koshi and chainsaw Toades, but that would have been only based on him voting for prplhz. That´s not necessarily a scum trait, just reading prplhz wrong.

On July 07 2014 23:44 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:43 iamperfection wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:42 IAmRobik wrote:
If IAmP gets mislynched this game, I'm going to flame each and every one of you in post game. He's the broiest bro of all bros

ive only been mislynched once. it doesn't happen

##vote: iamperfection

Based on the fact it won't happen that we mislynch iamp.
Koshi, you have to own up on your vote for iamperfection and post it in the voting thread, it doesn´t count otherwise.


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On July 08 2014 00:21 Forumite wrote:
On July 08 2014 00:14 prplhz wrote:
@Forumite Explain your meta read on me that makes you 99% sure.
I have a long career of mislynching you after a weak scumread leads me to tunnel and ruin it for town. Since then I interpret weak scumreads on you as strong signs of townieness.


Idk, shouldn't he be townreading Toad based on what he said?
Or where does he draw the line between a weak scumread on prpl and strong one when it comes to Toad?

On July 08 2014 01:24 Vivax wrote:
The way VE entered the thread kinda gives me the feeling he already wanted to call me scum before he read all that stuff.

One point that makes me think of that is that first he called me scummy for reacting poorly to forumite calling me out.
When he realized he actually didn't call me out, he called me scummy for reacting to him in the first place.
It just doesn't make sense that I should react only to guys talking about me, so it just looks like an adjustment after his previous point was made invalid.

His arguments for my reaction being poor were:
Show nested quote +
And look at how he frames it - he's calling the guy mafia in a way that reeks of trying to identify with the crowd. "You're clearly not in the same frame of mind as me and these other guys who are town"


Which is a perfectly fine argument in line with mafia not looking at the game the same way a townie does.
All the way not considering that forumite's preference for Koshi over me or anyone else talking about random stuff has no explanation.

On July 08 2014 01:26 Vivax wrote:
What's the deal with those kush votes?

On July 08 2014 01:36 Vivax wrote:
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On July 08 2014 01:27 kushm4sta wrote:
And look at how he frames it - he's calling the guy mafia in a way that reeks of trying to identify with the crowd. "You're clearly not in the same frame of mind as me and these other guys who are town"


also this thought is usually too in depth for mafia isn't it?


The depth of mafia arguments is up to their creativity, and I wouldn't put it past VE to be creative.
Besides, he says my intention was to identify with a town crowd, when my intention was to show why forum could be scum.
As said, it looks to me like he was just trying to find scum motives behind my play at any cost.

On July 08 2014 01:37 Vivax wrote:
Can Cav, Robik and VE explain what about kush's post makes him instascum?


This chain is what I like to see in filters D1. He hits multiple people at the same time and is clearly looking for scum. Good stuff.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 12:53 GMT
#863
i meant to say wtf is this drivel
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 12:56 GMT
#865
On July 08 2014 21:55 yamato77 wrote:
iamp, redirect your attention to obiwan

he's the lynch today

so he is basically not being productive yet usually is.

I might get behind that.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 13:09 GMT
#874
ObiWanShinobi if i said i had a gun to your head right now what would you say?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 13:09 GMT
#875
On July 08 2014 22:07 Koshi wrote:
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On July 08 2014 22:05 Vivax wrote:
I got the feeling iamp doesn't like you Koshi.

Yeah, cuz he thinks I should read him town. Also he dislikes my awesome big posts but for some reason all these vets don't like them. Like marv also never likes them. Dunno. Silly people.

you think im scum?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 13:24 GMT
#881
On July 08 2014 22:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 22:09 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:07 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:05 Vivax wrote:
I got the feeling iamp doesn't like you Koshi.

Yeah, cuz he thinks I should read him town. Also he dislikes my awesome big posts but for some reason all these vets don't like them. Like marv also never likes them. Dunno. Silly people.

you think im scum?

Well. I don't think you should be townread.
But in Catastrophe Mafia you were even less talky and less interesting so who knows really.

For some reason I am thinking I should somewhat ignore you for D1 but like I said I don't really know why.

lol i just realized my filter for this game is almost as long as that entire game how embarrassing. Need to realy work on my scum play.

oh by the way i was on vacation for chrono trigger mafia too so pfft your bad.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 13:26 GMT
#883
koshi it night and day with the difference here im a leader in catastrophe im in no way a leader. Its not hard.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 13:28 GMT
#886
On July 08 2014 19:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 19:14 Forumite wrote:
On July 08 2014 19:04 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 18:46 prplhz wrote:
i didn't defend forumite early on, i just said that iamp and robik shouldn't jump to conclusion when there could be a good meta read that he just didn't inform the thread of. not providing a reason for your reads isn't scummy, it's not having a reason for them that's scummy.

can you go more into detail with what you like about slOosh' case on forumite?

I like the "Stop. Think" part of the case because it makes the case very sheepable and very understandable.
On July 08 2014 06:01 slOosh wrote:
Heyo.

I am not liking the Forumite. Ok are you ready for this?

On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

He meta reads prplhz, then asks prplhz for his reads.

Stop. Think. Why do you ask people for reads?

You do it because either you want to get a better read on them, or you think they are town and you value their reads. At 99% town, he isn't doing it for the first reason, so it must be the second. But at this point the game just started, and most of the posts were "hahaha jokez" posts, so clearly nothing meaningful to be gleaned off here.

Conclusion: Forumite has a scummy mindset of "asking people for reads looks like activity" but when he does it it looks totally out of place.

Why did ask Forumite prplhz his reads? This is a very good question. SlOosh also believes in this sentence showing a scummy mindset in Forumite. You are trowing away SloOsh his argument that this one sentence makes Forumite scum but have you ever seen a scummer make a case showing off such dept in thought? Remember that this is SloOsh his first post, so one (Robik) could argue that SlOosh is being scum tryharding. You think so as well?

SloOsh reading that one sentence and making an understandable/sheepable case around that one sentence makes me respect SlOosh his scumhunting abilities. Or his scum playing abilities.

Why would I want to lynch somebody who shows me that he can make a case around somebody making 1 bad sentence? Out of fear he plays atypical godly scum? I will pass on that.
I ask prplhz for reads because I want to know what he thinks, why did you think I asked?

Why did you want to know what he thinks? Do you respect his early reads so much that you want to sheep him? Why not ask iamp what he was thinking?

and i dont get why you would post this koshi if you didn't think i was being a leader.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 13:42 GMT
#897
On July 08 2014 22:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 22:28 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 19:18 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 19:14 Forumite wrote:
On July 08 2014 19:04 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 18:46 prplhz wrote:
i didn't defend forumite early on, i just said that iamp and robik shouldn't jump to conclusion when there could be a good meta read that he just didn't inform the thread of. not providing a reason for your reads isn't scummy, it's not having a reason for them that's scummy.

can you go more into detail with what you like about slOosh' case on forumite?

I like the "Stop. Think" part of the case because it makes the case very sheepable and very understandable.
On July 08 2014 06:01 slOosh wrote:
Heyo.

I am not liking the Forumite. Ok are you ready for this?

On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

He meta reads prplhz, then asks prplhz for his reads.

Stop. Think. Why do you ask people for reads?

You do it because either you want to get a better read on them, or you think they are town and you value their reads. At 99% town, he isn't doing it for the first reason, so it must be the second. But at this point the game just started, and most of the posts were "hahaha jokez" posts, so clearly nothing meaningful to be gleaned off here.

Conclusion: Forumite has a scummy mindset of "asking people for reads looks like activity" but when he does it it looks totally out of place.

Why did ask Forumite prplhz his reads? This is a very good question. SlOosh also believes in this sentence showing a scummy mindset in Forumite. You are trowing away SloOsh his argument that this one sentence makes Forumite scum but have you ever seen a scummer make a case showing off such dept in thought? Remember that this is SloOsh his first post, so one (Robik) could argue that SlOosh is being scum tryharding. You think so as well?

SloOsh reading that one sentence and making an understandable/sheepable case around that one sentence makes me respect SlOosh his scumhunting abilities. Or his scum playing abilities.

Why would I want to lynch somebody who shows me that he can make a case around somebody making 1 bad sentence? Out of fear he plays atypical godly scum? I will pass on that.
I ask prplhz for reads because I want to know what he thinks, why did you think I asked?

Why did you want to know what he thinks? Do you respect his early reads so much that you want to sheep him? Why not ask iamp what he was thinking?

and i dont get why you would post this koshi if you didn't think i was being a leader.

Look at you being smart. Keep going!

There is nothing to go on with. It just shows what you say is trash and shouldn't be listened to.

I would guess your just a misguided townie as you have been too active and drawing a lot of attention.

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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 13:46 GMT
#901
Damdred would you say your a top player where you play?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 14:54 GMT
#956
Im going to wait for obiwan to come back i would like to see what he says.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
July 08 2014 15:00 GMT
#965
On July 09 2014 00:00 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 23:57 Vivax wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:55 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:53 Vivax wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:48 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:45 Vivax wrote:
I'm starting to like the idea of simply lynching into inactives.

vote pls


Pick a number from 1 to 3.

3 most awesome number.


Hokay.
##Vote HiroPro

hiro and laya are like the 2 guys I'm not willing to lynch despite being lurkers

why
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