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On July 08 2014 07:31 Koshi wrote:
Reading Alakaslam. geript and rayn can do it. It is possible. He just needs to try a bit sometimes. Somewhere I don't get why he doesn't visibly try more. Chezinu always tries to actually scumhunt. Somewhere. Dnu. I shall try to figure out Slam this game.
He has basically said that whoever is 1 vote away from hammer, he's going to hammer him like in his last games.
Which means he won't do anything except execute what the majority is thinking.
Good luck reading him though, I will visit you in your cell while you wear the I-love-myself-jacket.
Toad I don't like how you bitched about Cora's first post. I actually think it's pretty townie.
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And I mean the post after where he said he would read the game. My shot was just a little joke to get him startled.
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On July 08 2014 07:41 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 07:35 Vivax wrote:On July 08 2014 07:31 Koshi wrote:
Reading Alakaslam. geript and rayn can do it. It is possible. He just needs to try a bit sometimes. Somewhere I don't get why he doesn't visibly try more. Chezinu always tries to actually scumhunt. Somewhere. Dnu. I shall try to figure out Slam this game. He has basically said that whoever is 1 vote away from hammer, he's going to hammer him like in his last games. Which means he won't do anything except execute what the majority is thinking. Good luck reading him though, I will visit you in your cell while you wear the I-love-myself-jacket. Toad I don't like how you bitched about Cora's first post. I actually think it's pretty townie. So? There's other people who said they like what I posted so far, including that "bitching"... think it was iamp. Is there a point in mentioning that you don't like it or is that just a random aside?
Your entrance on prp was shitty, your bitching about somebody cause he takes too many things into consideration at the same time is shitty.
Prp scum cause he's sounding down and whatnot.
Cora scum cause he doesn't sound sure enough of himself and puts caveats into his reads.
This is shitty cause you use it in the reasoning to townread Forum:
Why would mafia say they were considering to chainsaw me
If you look at his post and think a bit about it you'll figure that chainsaw is what he thinks means calling out as scummy.
When the real meaning is that you attack a guy who is attacking your scumbuddy.
Just cause he used that word didn't mean that he meant the same thing you know as chainsawing.
But despite suspecting him earlier, you immediately took it that way.
Overall I find some of your reasoning weak for jumping on or off these guys.
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On July 08 2014 07:54 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 07:49 Vivax wrote:On July 08 2014 07:41 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 07:35 Vivax wrote:On July 08 2014 07:31 Koshi wrote:
Reading Alakaslam. geript and rayn can do it. It is possible. He just needs to try a bit sometimes. Somewhere I don't get why he doesn't visibly try more. Chezinu always tries to actually scumhunt. Somewhere. Dnu. I shall try to figure out Slam this game. He has basically said that whoever is 1 vote away from hammer, he's going to hammer him like in his last games. Which means he won't do anything except execute what the majority is thinking. Good luck reading him though, I will visit you in your cell while you wear the I-love-myself-jacket. Toad I don't like how you bitched about Cora's first post. I actually think it's pretty townie. So? There's other people who said they like what I posted so far, including that "bitching"... think it was iamp. Is there a point in mentioning that you don't like it or is that just a random aside? Your entrance on prp was shitty, your bitching about somebody cause he takes too many things into consideration at the same time is shitty. Prp scum cause he's sounding down and whatnot. Cora scum cause he doesn't sound sure enough of himself and puts caveats into his reads. This is shitty cause you use it in the reasoning to townread Forum: Why would mafia say they were considering to chainsaw me If you look at his post and think a bit about it you'll figure that chainsaw is what he thinks means calling out as scummy. When the real meaning is that you attack a guy who is attacking your scumbuddy. Just cause he used that word didn't mean that he meant the same thing you know as chainsawing. But despite suspecting him earlier, you immediately took it that way. Overall I find some of your reasoning weak for jumping on or off these guys. fine, let's just ignore the fact that plenty of people have said they like most of my reasoning so far for a second and pretty much half the thread has me down as blatantly town right now. What do you make of me having weak reasoning according to you? Is me being wrong indicative of me being mafia, or town or whatever else? What are you even trying to say here.
If you're so sure of your own reasoning and reference other people believing you as a way to reinforce that notion, then you should also be quite sure that prpl is still scum for what he wrote there.
But I don't feel like you have that feeling.
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You have to explain to me how Cora weighing in different aspects of somebody being town or scum makes him scum.
I do that all the time too.
It's like you're expecting him to lock a target, and only bring arguments of one kind (guilty or innocent).
That's not how you find mafia, that's how you get somebody lynched.
I would portray you as almost polar opposites cause while he's considerate about the reads he gives and shows some doubts, you're playing the "lock-on and post all scummy stuff you can find-game", but for one exception, Forumite (who you voiced doubts about), but for some reason you'd lynch him before prplhz while I have yet to see you voicing doubts about prplhz himself.
Do you realize where my beef lies?
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On July 08 2014 09:02 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 09:01 Alakaslam wrote:On July 08 2014 08:56 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 08:44 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 08:34 ritoky wrote:
@Toades: what do you think of yamato77? nothing that stood out for me either way as of yet. I got some chills when he said he doesn't trust me because it felt a little buddy-buddy / trying to make fun with me but we do know each other so that's fine with me. As for real input... I can't even remember anything he's done except for that post when he quoted the list post which seemed a little weak. Completly null on him right now. Other than that I think his/her figure looks pretty awesome if you ignore legs and knees: + Show Spoiler + That's very odd to me, because in his filter he states that cora is off the table in his mind for similarly as vague and useless of reasons as forum had in regard to prp. And cora is one of your lynch targets. On July 08 2014 04:14 yamato77 wrote:
I'm a connoiseur of Cora lynches, and its usually pretty funny to do so, but I think he's legit town this game and I have a vested interest in winning.
Cora thus far has come out with his little reads post, and then has since been under fire for it. This happens literally every game he plays. The way he defends himself is genuine this game, as opposed to the forced way he went about it in Quiet Game where he was scum. Believe me, I know the difference. Doesn't really seem fully consistent to me. pfft you misinterpret yamato. He makes perfect sense there. Cora does the same scummy thing every game Cora gets called out on it every game Cora defends differently in an alignment indicative way Yamato concludes that his defending here is his town way how is that inconsistent because i think yamato's reasoning is equally as bad as forums, but he is only critical of 1
You mean Toad is only critical of one.
This could cause confusion when people read your filter if you don't say who "he" is.
On July 08 2014 03:30 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 03:08 Corazon wrote:On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote:
Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.
Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.
Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.
Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.
Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).
Does this make me town? On a more serious note, I'm not going to say someone is 100% scum 5-6 hours into a game. That's just stupid. I refuse to tunnel someone when not all of the players have even posted. It doesn't necessarily make you town and it doesn't make you scum at this point. However your post screams hey guys i'm a townie look i'm being helpful, which is cool it just brings heat down on you and makes you look like you are trying to be seen as town.
Toad seems to be playing semi-aggressive I don't know if that can be said he isn't scum hunting however at the moment anyway.
On July 08 2014 06:00 Damdred wrote:
*snip*
And Toads well hes playing pretty out there and drawing some attention to himself, even though its possible hes mafia hes more likely to be checked playing this way and wouldn't work in his favor
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Elaborate on Toad please. Is he aggressive and you don't know if that can be said? You don't know it can be said if he isn't scumhunting? He isn't scumhunting? Is he scummy to you? You don't want to lynch him cause he's likely to be checked?
It's really confusing to get what you're saying sometimes and for the "he's gonna be checked" part I have a hard time believing that it's a legit reason to not want to lynch somebody.
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So, Alakaslam, you think prplhz is scum?
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On July 08 2014 09:11 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 08:17 IAmRobik wrote:On July 08 2014 08:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Gonna play LoL, then filter some dudes, then come back and elaborate on why I wanna lynch mderg. After how much time does VE claiming to go play League and him not logging in does it become unacceptable for him to have left thread for no reason other than to leave the thread? lol That's all. Just lol.
No, you forgot your case on mderg.
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SlOosh can you talk about some other stuff, it's like for you there's only forumite and the people scumreading you in a 30ish people game or however many there may be.
Also I pointed out that the second part of your case disregarded that Koshi had already been previously scumread by Forum so that is a possible explanation for why he kinda cleared Toad but not Koshi. DO you agree?
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Who's scum then, Forum. The only one I see left is Robik, but you left a caveat in that read.
Yamato, tell me more about Obi and what you saw between me and VE.
I didn't see the scumminess in SlOosh's initial post, but him fucking off leaving it only at scumreading Forum and then kind of moderating between me and Toad without trying to read us was scummy.
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On July 08 2014 21:28 Forumite wrote:
I want layabout and Tehpoofter to die or get their game going
And Hiro.
But there's not much point in talking about them since you either say you wanna plynch them or you wait for a vig and don't talk about them, so get your decisions straight or talk about people who posted something.
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Btw Forum, why do you townread Koshi I don't understand it.
You were super duper scum on him cause he posted riddles, now he's saying you asking prpl for reads didn't make much sense.
If I were to imagine myself in your position as hypothetical townie, I'd rather be suspicious about the guy bitching about my questions that I feel were legitimate than the guy posting riddles in the first pages of the game.
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I can think of one reason why he'd post so half-assed, but it's a reason I cannot talk about, and if that's the reason then his behaviour should change at some point.
Hence I'd like to hear what he has to say to your post before I give my judgment.
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I got the feeling iamp doesn't like you Koshi.
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If iamp was scum I'd have caught him already.
When you have this picture in your head of some threatening big guy posting authoritarian one-liners about stuff that deserves attention you can be sure he's town.
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Damdred this is the closest I've seen from you to you posting reads.
On July 08 2014 06:00 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 05:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:32 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:05 yamato77 wrote:On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I like
Robik
Toad
Koshi
Kush
Iamperfection
Batsnacks
People I don't Like
Yamato
ExO
Damdred
People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today
Vivax
VE
Layabout
Robik
Forumite
Cora
Drunk
Layabout
I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.
Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.
If you want reads for any of them ask me.
Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.
Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.
Everything after this post is fair game.
Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz. worst post all time srsly, why post these things when I'm trying to go to sleep Cause maybe you'll do something productive. Sleep is overrated On July 08 2014 05:06 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I like
Robik
Toad
Koshi
Kush
Iamperfection
Batsnacks
People I don't Like
Yamato
ExO
Damdred
People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today
Vivax
VE
Layabout
Robik
Forumite
Cora
Drunk
Layabout
I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.
Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.
If you want reads for any of them ask me.
Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.
Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.
Everything after this post is fair game.
Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz. Oh Ho! Why don't you like me then? Actually i'm curious why you don't like us 3? On July 08 2014 03:30 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 03:08 Corazon wrote:On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote:
Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.
Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.
Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.
Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.
Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).
Does this make me town? On a more serious note, I'm not going to say someone is 100% scum 5-6 hours into a game. That's just stupid. I refuse to tunnel someone when not all of the players have even posted. It doesn't necessarily make you town and it doesn't make you scum at this point. However your post screams hey guys i'm a townie look i'm being helpful, which is cool it just brings heat down on you and makes you look like you are trying to be seen as town. Toad seems to be playing semi-aggressive I don't know if that can be said he isn't scum hunting however at the moment anyway. Because of the above post. Idk. Seemed like a super weird thing to quote and enter the thread on. It's off to me. On July 08 2014 05:08 IAmRobik wrote:On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I like
Robik
Toad
Koshi
Kush
Iamperfection
Batsnacks
People I don't Like
Yamato
ExO
Damdred
People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today
Vivax
VE
Layabout
Robik
Forumite
Cora
Drunk
Layabout
I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.
Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.
If you want reads for any of them ask me.
Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.
Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.
Everything after this post is fair game.
Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz. Should I be honored to be in 2 lists or are you just making up reads and putting people in random spots. What don't you like about damdred? What do you like about Kush (who hasn't read his role pm, so you can't actually have a read on him)? What do you like about batsnacks? 1. You should be honored. Not making up reads. They each have a basis, and I'll be glad to expand on any of them. 2. See above. 3. Kush is in his IDGAF mode, and I like it. Atleast for day 1. If he keeps going into his idgaf mode, I'd kill him. 4. So my read on batsnacks is more of I always read him wrong, and I actually think he is scummy this game, so I'm flipping that read. Seriously, I've read him as mafia every game we have played together. I saw something interesting that I wanted to comment on, forgive me for not entering the thread with a hi everyone i got a lot of reading to do lol. I decided to participate with something that was interesting to me someone was giving a few reads and making themselves look like a townie. I don't think this is a good reason for you to dislike me. Okay, I suppose I get that. But what about it made it so much more interesting than the rest of the posts that were posted? I don't find really anything interesting in a post that is asking "OH hey guys let me highlight all the things that I think make me town, so let me ask you, does this certain post make me town?" And your response wasn't the best. So enlighten me. Sure, my post probably wasn't the best at that point and I was trying to enter the thread and trying to be helpful. So on that note I can see how I could be perceived scum or disliked someone who had been silent up until that point enters thread and tells someone that they are trying to hard to be town. Your right it was badly put and probably a bad post, but I do think that the post reads hey guys i'm a townie. Why was his post interesting to me instead of the other myriad of posts? Well he had just responded to someone who had said he was acting scummy and then he demonstrated how his post pointed more towards him being town. Can't help what I think is interesting and what I do not. Sometimes you have to grab onto something to engage with in the thread even if you don't come off the best. And I didn't call him scum or a town just gave my opinon on his post. Okay, thank you for you response. Can I ask you a few more questions? I've never played with you, and these may help my read on you. Have you caught up on all the pages? If so, what do you think of Koshi's posting? Most people say it's trolling and baseless, and could probably put Robik in that category, too. So what do you think of both Robik's and Koshi's posting? If you have caught up with the thread, can you give me 2 people you would not lynch and 2 people you would, then one sentence explaining each. Thanks  I have read all of the thread and have tried to keep up to date. Koshis posting annoyed me a little with the riddles and what not, even though I understand that he was trying to stir up some kind of activity (possibly) from his postings the town does not benefit from random posts that clutter up the thread. However I do think his early postings were trolling and his later ones did add some thought to the thread, Robik's postings have been interesting and he has interacted with the people outside of being random, his overall overreaction to being called scum is note worthy and could be a deflection but i'm not sure. If I was forced to name a few people that gave me interest at this moment I would go with Forumite, VE. I wouldn't say lynch them, Forumites read early on is a bit odd and his and VE call to get a majority lynch in the first 24 hrs or so troubles me. The more time we have to talk and to pry information from people the better rather than the less time. Even though day 1 is always odd in my opinion and you don't have much to go on its always good to gauge how people react. I probably wouldn't lynch exo at this point, or toads. Exo has a history of playing aloof and you can never tell much about him day one. And Toads well hes playing pretty out there and drawing some attention to himself, even though its possible hes mafia hes more likely to be checked playing this way and wouldn't work in his favor
If I compare it to how Cora wrote his post Toad found so scummy, where he weighs pro and cons, you state a bunch of things you find odd, among them VE who proposes quick lynches (while he was not the only one,I think prpl did too).
The jist is that here you're saying a lot of stuff but really not anything at all. It's not like you give weight to these things like: "This is scummy, but that is also townie" etc. You just list things that are noteworthy in your opinion but nowhere do I see you trying to draw a conclusion from them, it's more like you only list everything when you say at the same time that it will sort itself out in some way.
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Kinda hard to formulate but it's the feeling I get from that post.
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Then there's this post by Toad which is in my opinion too hyperbole, he's saying Cora is backtracking from all his reads at the same time, when I found his Robik scumread to be clear enough and I don't see him backtracking from it, I see him saying that it's a read early in the game and that it might change, but still his top scumread.
Overall I'm not trusting Toad cause he gives me the feeling he's pushing people before figuring them out, and there are multiple instances where he feels the need to emphasize he's being so townie, and how he goes guns blazing on everyone.
On July 08 2014 08:16 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 08:13 Vivax wrote:
You have to explain to me how Cora weighing in different aspects of somebody being town or scum makes him scum.
I do that all the time too.
It's like you're expecting him to lock a target, and only bring arguments of one kind (guilty or innocent).
That's not how you find mafia, that's how you get somebody lynched.
I would portray you as almost polar opposites cause while he's considerate about the reads he gives and shows some doubts, you're playing the "lock-on and post all scummy stuff you can find-game", but for one exception, Forumite (who you voiced doubts about), but for some reason you'd lynch him before prplhz while I have yet to see you voicing doubts about prplhz himself.
Do you realize where my beef lies? like I said, my beef with Cora is that he did that with every single aspect. Mafias are more cautious about what they're posting and tend to try to be more people-pleaser than townies. I don't mind people bringing multiple arguments into the table, heck I did the same with forumite not a long time ago. I do however mind it if the guy brings 10 arguments on the table and calls all 10 of his own arguments useless and weak in the same post. Not just some of them but literally every single one. The guy is horribly afraid to put his head out in any kind of way.
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On July 08 2014 22:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 22:36 Vivax wrote:Damdred this is the closest I've seen from you to you posting reads. On July 08 2014 06:00 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:32 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:05 yamato77 wrote:On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I like
Robik
Toad
Koshi
Kush
Iamperfection
Batsnacks
People I don't Like
Yamato
ExO
Damdred
People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today
Vivax
VE
Layabout
Robik
Forumite
Cora
Drunk
Layabout
I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.
Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.
If you want reads for any of them ask me.
Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.
Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.
Everything after this post is fair game.
Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz. worst post all time srsly, why post these things when I'm trying to go to sleep Cause maybe you'll do something productive. Sleep is overrated On July 08 2014 05:06 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I like
Robik
Toad
Koshi
Kush
Iamperfection
Batsnacks
People I don't Like
Yamato
ExO
Damdred
People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today
Vivax
VE
Layabout
Robik
Forumite
Cora
Drunk
Layabout
I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.
Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.
If you want reads for any of them ask me.
Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.
Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.
Everything after this post is fair game.
Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz. Oh Ho! Why don't you like me then? Actually i'm curious why you don't like us 3? On July 08 2014 03:30 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 03:08 Corazon wrote:
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Does this make me town?
On a more serious note, I'm not going to say someone is 100% scum 5-6 hours into a game. That's just stupid. I refuse to tunnel someone when not all of the players have even posted. It doesn't necessarily make you town and it doesn't make you scum at this point. However your post screams hey guys i'm a townie look i'm being helpful, which is cool it just brings heat down on you and makes you look like you are trying to be seen as town. Toad seems to be playing semi-aggressive I don't know if that can be said he isn't scum hunting however at the moment anyway. Because of the above post. Idk. Seemed like a super weird thing to quote and enter the thread on. It's off to me. On July 08 2014 05:08 IAmRobik wrote:On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I like
Robik
Toad
Koshi
Kush
Iamperfection
Batsnacks
People I don't Like
Yamato
ExO
Damdred
People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today
Vivax
VE
Layabout
Robik
Forumite
Cora
Drunk
Layabout
I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.
Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.
If you want reads for any of them ask me.
Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.
Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.
Everything after this post is fair game.
Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz. Should I be honored to be in 2 lists or are you just making up reads and putting people in random spots. What don't you like about damdred? What do you like about Kush (who hasn't read his role pm, so you can't actually have a read on him)? What do you like about batsnacks? 1. You should be honored. Not making up reads. They each have a basis, and I'll be glad to expand on any of them. 2. See above. 3. Kush is in his IDGAF mode, and I like it. Atleast for day 1. If he keeps going into his idgaf mode, I'd kill him. 4. So my read on batsnacks is more of I always read him wrong, and I actually think he is scummy this game, so I'm flipping that read. Seriously, I've read him as mafia every game we have played together. I saw something interesting that I wanted to comment on, forgive me for not entering the thread with a hi everyone i got a lot of reading to do lol. I decided to participate with something that was interesting to me someone was giving a few reads and making themselves look like a townie. I don't think this is a good reason for you to dislike me. Okay, I suppose I get that. But what about it made it so much more interesting than the rest of the posts that were posted? I don't find really anything interesting in a post that is asking "OH hey guys let me highlight all the things that I think make me town, so let me ask you, does this certain post make me town?" And your response wasn't the best. So enlighten me. Sure, my post probably wasn't the best at that point and I was trying to enter the thread and trying to be helpful. So on that note I can see how I could be perceived scum or disliked someone who had been silent up until that point enters thread and tells someone that they are trying to hard to be town. Your right it was badly put and probably a bad post, but I do think that the post reads hey guys i'm a townie. Why was his post interesting to me instead of the other myriad of posts? Well he had just responded to someone who had said he was acting scummy and then he demonstrated how his post pointed more towards him being town. Can't help what I think is interesting and what I do not. Sometimes you have to grab onto something to engage with in the thread even if you don't come off the best. And I didn't call him scum or a town just gave my opinon on his post. Okay, thank you for you response. Can I ask you a few more questions? I've never played with you, and these may help my read on you. Have you caught up on all the pages? If so, what do you think of Koshi's posting? Most people say it's trolling and baseless, and could probably put Robik in that category, too. So what do you think of both Robik's and Koshi's posting? If you have caught up with the thread, can you give me 2 people you would not lynch and 2 people you would, then one sentence explaining each. Thanks I have read all of the thread and have tried to keep up to date. Koshis posting annoyed me a little with the riddles and what not, even though I understand that he was trying to stir up some kind of activity (possibly) from his postings the town does not benefit from random posts that clutter up the thread. However I do think his early postings were trolling and his later ones did add some thought to the thread, Robik's postings have been interesting and he has interacted with the people outside of being random, his overall overreaction to being called scum is note worthy and could be a deflection but i'm not sure. If I was forced to name a few people that gave me interest at this moment I would go with Forumite, VE. I wouldn't say lynch them, Forumites read early on is a bit odd and his and VE call to get a majority lynch in the first 24 hrs or so troubles me. The more time we have to talk and to pry information from people the better rather than the less time. Even though day 1 is always odd in my opinion and you don't have much to go on its always good to gauge how people react. I probably wouldn't lynch exo at this point, or toads. Exo has a history of playing aloof and you can never tell much about him day one. And Toads well hes playing pretty out there and drawing some attention to himself, even though its possible hes mafia hes more likely to be checked playing this way and wouldn't work in his favor If I compare it to how Cora wrote his post Toad found so scummy, where he weighs pro and cons, you state a bunch of things you find odd, among them VE who proposes quick lynches (while he was not the only one,I think prpl did too). The jist is that here you're saying a lot of stuff but really not anything at all. It's not like you give weight to these things like: "This is scummy, but that is also townie" etc. You just list things that are noteworthy in your opinion but nowhere do I see you trying to draw a conclusion from them, it's more like you only list everything when you say at the same time that it will sort itself out in some way. Eh, I guess I can see that. Like i've said before though it was in the parameters of the question I was asked, and I was asked to keep it brief so I did. It probably wasn't the best decision based on the few posts I have gotten in response to it as it made me appear scummy I suppose.
Well I hope you won't only post reads when asked cause that's what I've seen of you so far.
Do you think I have some point with Toad or do you stick to your own read.
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On July 08 2014 22:47 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 22:41 Vivax wrote:Then there's this post by Toad which is in my opinion too hyperbole, he's saying Cora is backtracking from all his reads at the same time, when I found his Robik scumread to be clear enough and I don't see him backtracking from it, I see him saying that it's a read early in the game and that it might change, but still his top scumread. Overall I'm not trusting Toad cause he gives me the feeling he's pushing people before figuring them out, and there are multiple instances where he feels the need to emphasize he's being so townie, and how he goes guns blazing on everyone. On July 08 2014 08:16 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 08:13 Vivax wrote:
You have to explain to me how Cora weighing in different aspects of somebody being town or scum makes him scum.
I do that all the time too.
It's like you're expecting him to lock a target, and only bring arguments of one kind (guilty or innocent).
That's not how you find mafia, that's how you get somebody lynched.
I would portray you as almost polar opposites cause while he's considerate about the reads he gives and shows some doubts, you're playing the "lock-on and post all scummy stuff you can find-game", but for one exception, Forumite (who you voiced doubts about), but for some reason you'd lynch him before prplhz while I have yet to see you voicing doubts about prplhz himself.
Do you realize where my beef lies? like I said, my beef with Cora is that he did that with every single aspect. Mafias are more cautious about what they're posting and tend to try to be more people-pleaser than townies. I don't mind people bringing multiple arguments into the table, heck I did the same with forumite not a long time ago. I do however mind it if the guy brings 10 arguments on the table and calls all 10 of his own arguments useless and weak in the same post. Not just some of them but literally every single one. The guy is horribly afraid to put his head out in any kind of way. Not sure if I agree. In the beginning he was doing random voting with his first push on prplhz, that´s not scummy. Repeating how everyone thinks he´s town, maybe a bit odd.
Why random voting, he seemed pretty adamant about defending his point when I called him out on it.
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