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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 15:14 GMT
#239
On July 08 2014 00:06 prplhz wrote:
i don't think anything about toad's posts. they're overzealous but in my experience that is not outside of what toad is capable of doing as either alignment.


So it doesn't bother you at all that he finds you scummy despite there being flaws in the argumentation?
Do you like his points on Forumite?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 15:16 GMT
#240
On July 08 2014 00:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
So far I like Vivax the least of everyone actively posting. I think he reacted poorly to being called out by Forumite.


Where did he call me out.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 15:19 GMT
#246
On July 08 2014 00:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh Forumite never called out Vivax. So why is he reacting to Forumite calling out Koshi? :/

Something weird is already going on.


I think you should reread the game a few more times.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 15:34 GMT
#276
On July 08 2014 00:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 00:19 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 00:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh Forumite never called out Vivax. So why is he reacting to Forumite calling out Koshi? :/

Something weird is already going on.

because usually people talk about what other people post in mafia games.

Why are you throwing out baseless suspicion and not fully explaining it.

It's not baseless. Forumite is calling out Koshi for shitposting right? Why is Vivax feeling compelled to respond to that? I saw Vivax post on it and thought Forumite was talking about /him/ right? But he wasn't, he was talking about Koshi.
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:57 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:55 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:52 iamperfection wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:38 prplhz wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all.
k, I don´t care about townreads unless we´re close to the lynch.

On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment
What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.

On July 07 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

The fact you say I am ruining the thread hurts me more than you voting me. I am the entertainment value here.
Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die.

about 75% of the posts have been useless including mine why pick koshi over anyone else.
He´s actively creating more useless posts beside his own by making others go along with his games and riddles.


This is a very superficial read and shows you're not in the same frame as the guys who start D1 with literally nothing else to talk about but...Something.

Like, he reacts with immediate suspicion against Forumite based on that one line. It just seems aggressive for how passively Vivax opened the game. Different from the /rest/ of his play. But please, tell me how baseless my suspicions are more iamp.


Both me and Koshi posted riddles and talked about not so important stuff while there was nothing important to talk about. Forumite could have called out both of us on it, but he didn't.

The thing about forumite is that his reasoning on Koshi implies you should be posting serious stuff when not enough people have posted something of substance at that point. The not serious stuff is a way of getting discussion going, however pointless it might be, it's still better than nothing.

Do you understand it now or will you leave your point standing that it's scummy to call out stuff you find scummy even when that stuff is not adressed to you?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 15:51 GMT
#293
On July 08 2014 00:11 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:55 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:52 iamperfection wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:38 prplhz wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all.
k, I don´t care about townreads unless we´re close to the lynch.

On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment
What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.

On July 07 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

The fact you say I am ruining the thread hurts me more than you voting me. I am the entertainment value here.
Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die.

about 75% of the posts have been useless including mine why pick koshi over anyone else.


I'm interested into this too.

Prpl, what do you think of Toad's stuff so far? I'd have expected you to fight back in some way by now.
I'm actively withholding judgement on Toades. My first reaction was to ignore my read on Koshi and chainsaw Toades, but that would have been only based on him voting for prplhz. That´s not necessarily a scum trait, just reading prplhz wrong.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:44 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:43 iamperfection wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:42 IAmRobik wrote:
If IAmP gets mislynched this game, I'm going to flame each and every one of you in post game. He's the broiest bro of all bros

ive only been mislynched once. it doesn't happen

##vote: iamperfection

Based on the fact it won't happen that we mislynch iamp.
Koshi, you have to own up on your vote for iamperfection and post it in the voting thread, it doesn´t count otherwise.


On July 08 2014 00:21 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 00:14 prplhz wrote:
@Forumite Explain your meta read on me that makes you 99% sure.
I have a long career of mislynching you after a weak scumread leads me to tunnel and ruin it for town. Since then I interpret weak scumreads on you as strong signs of townieness.


Idk, shouldn't he be townreading Toad based on what he said?
Or where does he draw the line between a weak scumread on prpl and strong one when it comes to Toad?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 16:24 GMT
#317
The way VE entered the thread kinda gives me the feeling he already wanted to call me scum before he read all that stuff.

One point that makes me think of that is that first he called me scummy for reacting poorly to forumite calling me out.
When he realized he actually didn't call me out, he called me scummy for reacting to him in the first place.
It just doesn't make sense that I should react only to guys talking about me, so it just looks like an adjustment after his previous point was made invalid.

His arguments for my reaction being poor were:
And look at how he frames it - he's calling the guy mafia in a way that reeks of trying to identify with the crowd. "You're clearly not in the same frame of mind as me and these other guys who are town"


Which is a perfectly fine argument in line with mafia not looking at the game the same way a townie does.
All the way not considering that forumite's preference for Koshi over me or anyone else talking about random stuff has no explanation.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 16:26 GMT
#319
What's the deal with those kush votes?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 16:36 GMT
#322
On July 08 2014 01:27 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
And look at how he frames it - he's calling the guy mafia in a way that reeks of trying to identify with the crowd. "You're clearly not in the same frame of mind as me and these other guys who are town"


also this thought is usually too in depth for mafia isn't it?


The depth of mafia arguments is up to their creativity, and I wouldn't put it past VE to be creative.
Besides, he says my intention was to identify with a town crowd, when my intention was to show why forum could be scum.
As said, it looks to me like he was just trying to find scum motives behind my play at any cost.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 16:37 GMT
#323
Can Cav, Robik and VE explain what about kush's post makes him instascum?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 16:56 GMT
#350

I mentioned the exact same thing and Koshi responded to it. Seeing as you agree, can you call me town? I like being called town.


The day I call somebody town just for saying the same thing as me is the day I lose to mafia.
Are you applying that reasoning to me to townread me or what? Since you're expecting me to do such a thing.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 16:57 GMT
#352
##Shoot Corazon
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 16:59 GMT
#356
You know I'm jk
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 17:05 GMT
#363
Yea kush stop being an ass and read your PM if you haven't.

Does somebody else want to chime in onto VE and forumite, who fucked off x2 or am I fighting a lonely fight?

Robik, did you already forget that kush claiming to not have read his PM has happened in the recent past and I don't recall you going instalynch on him?

I did though cause he wasn't trying to solve the game, initially, but I wouldn't get that notion just from his first post.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 21:47 GMT
#568
Forumite wrote:
He also accused me of calling Toades scum, which I´m fairly sure I never did


Koshi, where did you accuse him of calling Toad scum, I can't find such a thing.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 21:58 GMT
#570
Robik, your case on SlOosh is fully focused on the timing on his post and not the content. If you wanna prove he's mafia, show me how his content can't come from town, cause I have understanding for the part where he claims that asking prplhz for reads didn't make much sense, however he doesn't consider that Forum had scumread Koshi previously (but not Toad) in his second part of the case (sloosh's case).

I can't tell if that's sloppy reasoning or scummy reasoning though, can you?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 22:04 GMT
#573
Then I don't see where Forumite called Toad scum, cause that's when I went to search for Koshi accusing him of that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 22:17 GMT
#579
The reasons forumite used for scumreading Koshi are just so bad.
Spamming, ruining the thread.

But when I look at the games he played, they aren't many, but he's been around this forum longer than I have, I think, so I wouldn't expect him to apply such reasoning.


On his earlier posts, I have changed my mind. I understand that the early game can be dull and those posts at least gets things going. I still lean heavily towards scum on Koshi, he drew those riddle posts for a few too many pages and has since done a few things that I feel are off when pushing me.


He's still so focused on the riddle stuff but now draws a line between early and middle game, I'd much rather hear what he found off about Koshi pushing him than rehashing that he didn't like the unserious posts.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 22:18 GMT
#581
Forget reading slam, he's vig food.
He's like main carry for mafia when he doesn't get vigged though, cause nobody cba to try and read something into his shit.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 22:20 GMT
#582
On July 08 2014 07:18 prplhz wrote:
i've come to the conclusion that it's unlikely that forumite would make an early 99% read as scum and then provide such qustionable reasoning for it

so maybe sloosh is scum

##Vote slOosh


Why? Cause he didn't reach your same conclusion?
Am I scum too?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 07 2014 22:28 GMT
#584
Convince me that he's scummy-wrong then.
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