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Vivax
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On July 08 2014 00:06 prplhz wrote: i don't think anything about toad's posts. they're overzealous but in my experience that is not outside of what toad is capable of doing as either alignment. So it doesn't bother you at all that he finds you scummy despite there being flaws in the argumentation? Do you like his points on Forumite? | ||
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On July 08 2014 00:14 VisceraEyes wrote: So far I like Vivax the least of everyone actively posting. I think he reacted poorly to being called out by Forumite. Where did he call me out. | ||
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On July 08 2014 00:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh Forumite never called out Vivax. So why is he reacting to Forumite calling out Koshi? :/ Something weird is already going on. I think you should reread the game a few more times. | ||
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On July 08 2014 00:27 VisceraEyes wrote: It's not baseless. Forumite is calling out Koshi for shitposting right? Why is Vivax feeling compelled to respond to that? I saw Vivax post on it and thought Forumite was talking about /him/ right? But he wasn't, he was talking about Koshi. Like, he reacts with immediate suspicion against Forumite based on that one line. It just seems aggressive for how passively Vivax opened the game. Different from the /rest/ of his play. But please, tell me how baseless my suspicions are more iamp. Both me and Koshi posted riddles and talked about not so important stuff while there was nothing important to talk about. Forumite could have called out both of us on it, but he didn't. The thing about forumite is that his reasoning on Koshi implies you should be posting serious stuff when not enough people have posted something of substance at that point. The not serious stuff is a way of getting discussion going, however pointless it might be, it's still better than nothing. Do you understand it now or will you leave your point standing that it's scummy to call out stuff you find scummy even when that stuff is not adressed to you? | ||
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On July 08 2014 00:11 Forumite wrote: I'm actively withholding judgement on Toades. My first reaction was to ignore my read on Koshi and chainsaw Toades, but that would have been only based on him voting for prplhz. That´s not necessarily a scum trait, just reading prplhz wrong. Koshi, you have to own up on your vote for iamperfection and post it in the voting thread, it doesn´t count otherwise. On July 08 2014 00:21 Forumite wrote: I have a long career of mislynching you after a weak scumread leads me to tunnel and ruin it for town. Since then I interpret weak scumreads on you as strong signs of townieness. Idk, shouldn't he be townreading Toad based on what he said? Or where does he draw the line between a weak scumread on prpl and strong one when it comes to Toad? | ||
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One point that makes me think of that is that first he called me scummy for reacting poorly to forumite calling me out. When he realized he actually didn't call me out, he called me scummy for reacting to him in the first place. It just doesn't make sense that I should react only to guys talking about me, so it just looks like an adjustment after his previous point was made invalid. His arguments for my reaction being poor were: And look at how he frames it - he's calling the guy mafia in a way that reeks of trying to identify with the crowd. "You're clearly not in the same frame of mind as me and these other guys who are town" Which is a perfectly fine argument in line with mafia not looking at the game the same way a townie does. All the way not considering that forumite's preference for Koshi over me or anyone else talking about random stuff has no explanation. | ||
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On July 08 2014 01:27 kushm4sta wrote: also this thought is usually too in depth for mafia isn't it? The depth of mafia arguments is up to their creativity, and I wouldn't put it past VE to be creative. Besides, he says my intention was to identify with a town crowd, when my intention was to show why forum could be scum. As said, it looks to me like he was just trying to find scum motives behind my play at any cost. | ||
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I mentioned the exact same thing and Koshi responded to it. Seeing as you agree, can you call me town? I like being called town. The day I call somebody town just for saying the same thing as me is the day I lose to mafia. Are you applying that reasoning to me to townread me or what? Since you're expecting me to do such a thing. | ||
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Does somebody else want to chime in onto VE and forumite, who fucked off x2 or am I fighting a lonely fight? Robik, did you already forget that kush claiming to not have read his PM has happened in the recent past and I don't recall you going instalynch on him? I did though cause he wasn't trying to solve the game, initially, but I wouldn't get that notion just from his first post. | ||
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He also accused me of calling Toades scum, which I´m fairly sure I never did Koshi, where did you accuse him of calling Toad scum, I can't find such a thing. | ||
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I can't tell if that's sloppy reasoning or scummy reasoning though, can you? | ||
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Spamming, ruining the thread. But when I look at the games he played, they aren't many, but he's been around this forum longer than I have, I think, so I wouldn't expect him to apply such reasoning. On his earlier posts, I have changed my mind. I understand that the early game can be dull and those posts at least gets things going. I still lean heavily towards scum on Koshi, he drew those riddle posts for a few too many pages and has since done a few things that I feel are off when pushing me. He's still so focused on the riddle stuff but now draws a line between early and middle game, I'd much rather hear what he found off about Koshi pushing him than rehashing that he didn't like the unserious posts. | ||
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He's like main carry for mafia when he doesn't get vigged though, cause nobody cba to try and read something into his shit. | ||
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On July 08 2014 07:18 prplhz wrote: i've come to the conclusion that it's unlikely that forumite would make an early 99% read as scum and then provide such qustionable reasoning for it so maybe sloosh is scum ##Vote slOosh Why? Cause he didn't reach your same conclusion? Am I scum too? | ||
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