• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:27
CEST 18:27
KST 01:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy9[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple2BSL Season 236Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
NaDa's Body BW General Discussion BSL Season 23 screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1 [IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27!
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8293 users

TL Mafia LXVII: Storm Mafia 2 - Page 156

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 154 155 156 157 158 177 Next
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 17 2014 21:37 GMT
#3101
BM, did you find anything?

I didn´t know Koshi was a blue role. Did he reveal this earlier?
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 17 2014 21:38 GMT
#3102
On July 18 2014 06:34 Bill Murray wrote:
Exo visited Ritoky GG

<3

##Vote: ExO_
:3
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 17 2014 21:42 GMT
#3103
I knew Koshi was blue by how he was playing
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 17 2014 21:42 GMT
#3104
and yeah obv Vote: exo_
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 17 2014 21:51 GMT
#3105
##vote Exo

So why exactly isn't mafia shooting you? Just as an aside
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 17 2014 21:54 GMT
#3106
well this makes things easy.

##Vote ExO
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 17 2014 21:57 GMT
#3107
Official Votecount

exo_ (4): toadesstern, billmurray, forumite, hiropro

With 11 players alive it takes 6.0 votes to lynch.

Last update 21:55 GMT (+00:00)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 17 2014 22:06 GMT
#3108
Exo -> Vivax -> HiroPro ezpz

##Vote: ExO

This makes 1 minus hammer
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 17 2014 22:12 GMT
#3109
Uhh next one is hammer is what I meant.

It's been long day.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 17 2014 22:31 GMT
#3110
Okay here's what I'm thinking about this check and my question from above:
On July 18 2014 06:51 Toadesstern wrote:
##vote Exo

So why exactly isn't mafia shooting you? Just as an aside


Why didn't they shoot BM and I've come up with 3 scenarios:
  1. BM is mafia. Highly unlikely at this point as he gave us a lynch that would otherwise not have happened but I'm including it for the sake of keeping this complete. Very unlike but possible
  2. They have a framer that not only makes people appear red/green/whatever but makes people appear like the visited someone or didn't visit someone. With there not being any normal cops (or so it seems) but instead just trackers and watchers that'd be a necessary change to the role and has been done before. That being said and it certainly being possible I don't think the check on ExO_ is all that likely to be wrong even if it were to be the case. I simply don't see mafia not using it on Vivax yesterday. Either way Vivax would be town and you want to make him look like mafia or he's mafia and you want to make him look like he's not.
  3. And finally: Mafia just didn't think he'd check ExO and got multiple people to choose from to carry out the Nightkills. That means that for example mafia thought BM would target Vivax and thus choose to not use Vivax as a NK deliverer and were hoping to get a "Vivax didn't visit anyone yesterday" out of BM while using the less likely to be checked ones to actually deliver the kill


Anything I'm missing? I thought the third one makes it a little more likely for Vivax to be mafia at first but really the same is still true if Vivax is town. Either way I'd say #3 is the most likely scenario right now and think mafia did play high risk high reward here because again, they didn't and never looked like they had a say in anything starting from d1.
#2 sounds possible as well but I think that'd be a bit overkill with their already flipped roles being OP-VIG and Roleblocker. Not sure if a change to a GF that doesn't appear to visit someone while killing people has ever been done on this site so I left that one out but it would fall under the 2nd point as well.

Thoughts? What do you guys think does that make of Vivax? Because like I mentioned I'd say mafia assumed him to be checked last night.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 17 2014 22:35 GMT
#3111
actually I revise some of what I said about #3 but I'll keep it to me for now. Wouldn't mind hearing other people thoughts about why they apprently aren't scared of BM at all.

Other options would be something like they're afraid of us still having a medic but with that guy already flipped it seems pretty unlikely. Should have included that one for completions sake as well though.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 17 2014 22:39 GMT
#3112
All of these are possible but frankly I think it's more likely that mafia simply thought BM wasn't going to put in any effort towards pushing lynches outside of his check. Koshi had a similar role of his own, which is almost as strong at this point, since anyone with useful roles has claimed at this point.

ExO had nothing to indicate that he was town other than a throw-away vote on obishinobi. There's no reason to keep him alive when he both isn't posting and has a track result on him.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 17 2014 22:40 GMT
#3113
shall i end the day?
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 17 2014 22:40 GMT
#3114
sure, go ahead.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 17 2014 22:41 GMT
#3115
I voted wrong so I'm gonna fix it soon.

Exo who has been totally absent from the game is found visiting the dude who died. Let's keep it simple. He is probably the mafia who was sent.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 17 2014 22:42 GMT
#3116
Fixed, next vote hammers
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 17 2014 22:43 GMT
#3117
On July 18 2014 07:41 slOosh wrote:
I voted wrong so I'm gonna fix it soon.

Exo who has been totally absent from the game is found visiting the dude who died. Let's keep it simple. He is probably the mafia who was sent.

if that was directed at me, yeah but that wasn't my point.

I was asking about what that makes of Vivax. ExO_ is as much a clear cut insta vote as you'll ever get.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 17 2014 22:46 GMT
#3118
Oh. From a tactical standpoint, I would send Exo regardless of what kind of team I was in. If he caughts caught, big woop he is eventually gonna get lurker lynched or something. Also you don't want your active members to get caught.

On July 17 2014 18:05 yamato77 wrote:
I'm telling you that Vivax is one.

Vivax argued against lynching Exo, so he is probably another.

You, Sloosh, layabout, Toad, BM, Slam, and ritoky are probably not mafia.

Batsnacks/Forumite/Hiro are the only other ones even worth looking at. Hiro is easily the worst looking one of the three.

I think that's one thing you can conclude if you want to use associations.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 17 2014 22:50 GMT
#3119
And layabout I think we are good with a hammer right now.

Th e people who haven't yet done so should respond to yamato's request for a spectrum of reads.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 17 2014 22:53 GMT
#3120
now doesn't the spectrum of reads essentially tell mafia who they can kill to survive and who they can leave to vote with?
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Prev 1 154 155 156 157 158 177 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 17h 33m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 206
CosmosSc2 64
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 34763
Light 1158
BeSt 701
Mini 522
Rush 353
Stork 341
Snow 224
hero 161
Dewaltoss 121
Shine 63
[ Show more ]
sorry 58
ggaemo 46
Hyun 37
HiyA 34
PianO 29
Sexy 26
ToSsGirL 23
Terrorterran 19
Aegong 17
Hm[arnc] 17
Rock 16
Dota 2
qojqva3427
Counter-Strike
fl0m1025
x6flipin439
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes416
Other Games
hiko743
B2W.Neo482
ceh9360
Liquid`VortiX143
ArmadaUGS129
SteadfastSC115
Mew2King80
QueenE57
Rex50
Trikslyr39
Chillindude14
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 364
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 121
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 49
• mYiSmile134
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 5799
• WagamamaTV579
League of Legends
• Nemesis3300
• TFBlade989
Other Games
• Shiphtur189
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
17h 33m
Replay Cast
1d 7h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
GSL
3 days
Yamato Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.