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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9649 Posts
July 07 2014 14:52 GMT
#201
On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:38 prplhz wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all.
k, I don´t care about townreads unless we´re close to the lynch.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment
What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

The fact you say I am ruining the thread hurts me more than you voting me. I am the entertainment value here.
Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die.

about 75% of the posts have been useless including mine why pick koshi over anyone else.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 07 2014 14:54 GMT
#202
Note to self: Fourmite is somebody who can appreciate and analyze valuable posts. He only has problems finding these posts. Let's see how he does in the future.
I had a good night of sleep.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 14:54 GMT
#203
On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment

What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.


1) your read on Koshi
2) your unfounded "meta" read on prplhz
3) your discussion of lynch practices -- talking about game mechanics
4) No, I don't enjoy it. Yes, it is beneficial at times because it throws mafia off and makes them unsure of what to do.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22427 Posts
July 07 2014 14:55 GMT
#204
On July 07 2014 23:52 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:38 prplhz wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all.
k, I don´t care about townreads unless we´re close to the lynch.

On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment
What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.

On July 07 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

The fact you say I am ruining the thread hurts me more than you voting me. I am the entertainment value here.
Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die.

about 75% of the posts have been useless including mine why pick koshi over anyone else.


I'm interested into this too.

Prpl, what do you think of Toad's stuff so far? I'd have expected you to fight back in some way by now.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 07 2014 14:55 GMT
#205
On July 07 2014 23:52 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:38 prplhz wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all.
k, I don´t care about townreads unless we´re close to the lynch.

On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment
What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.

On July 07 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

The fact you say I am ruining the thread hurts me more than you voting me. I am the entertainment value here.
Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die.

about 75% of the posts have been useless including mine why pick koshi over anyone else.
He´s actively creating more useless posts beside his own by making others go along with his games and riddles.
:3
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 07 2014 14:56 GMT
#206
Hi all. I'm town, so I apologize in advance for whatever it is I do that causes you to mislynch me.

Thread is pretty hoppin for having like 4 people in it. Calm down guys. I have a list of people who I wouldn't touch with the lynch today, but that's about it based on what's in the thread right now. I'll check back later.

I'd like to add that I like Forumite's position of wanting to lynch early. I'd like to add that in addition to pressuring mafia, it also has the benefit of giving us information earlier. IML is OP.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 14:57 GMT
#207
Holy shit VE is in this game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22427 Posts
July 07 2014 14:57 GMT
#208
On July 07 2014 23:55 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:52 iamperfection wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:38 prplhz wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all.
k, I don´t care about townreads unless we´re close to the lynch.

On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment
What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.

On July 07 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

The fact you say I am ruining the thread hurts me more than you voting me. I am the entertainment value here.
Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die.

about 75% of the posts have been useless including mine why pick koshi over anyone else.
He´s actively creating more useless posts beside his own by making others go along with his games and riddles.


This is a very superficial read and shows you're not in the same frame as the guys who start D1 with literally nothing else to talk about but...Something.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 07 2014 14:59 GMT
#209
On July 07 2014 23:54 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment

What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.


1) your read on Koshi
2) your unfounded "meta" read on prplhz
3) your discussion of lynch practices -- talking about game mechanics
4) No, I don't enjoy it. Yes, it is beneficial at times because it throws mafia off and makes them unsure of what to do.

how is his meta read on me unfounded?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9649 Posts
July 07 2014 15:00 GMT
#210
On July 07 2014 23:56 VisceraEyes wrote:


I'd like to add that I like Forumite's position of wanting to lynch early. I'd like to add that in addition to pressuring mafia, it also has the benefit of giving us information earlier. IML is OP.

This is stupid we are lynching when palmar warns us to lynch.

We can do quicker lynches later on. Day 1 will be used to gather as much info as possible.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 07 2014 15:00 GMT
#211
I am already against everything VE said.

1) thread should continue like it is doing. Maybe with other propagonist as soon as people can read the current actives well enough.
2) Fast = bad. Scum gets so bored in IML they do crazy stuff or get depressed. Because they don't like townies talking and becomming bros.
I had a good night of sleep.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9649 Posts
July 07 2014 15:01 GMT
#212
On July 07 2014 23:59 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:54 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment

What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.


1) your read on Koshi
2) your unfounded "meta" read on prplhz
3) your discussion of lynch practices -- talking about game mechanics
4) No, I don't enjoy it. Yes, it is beneficial at times because it throws mafia off and makes them unsure of what to do.

how is his meta read on me unfounded?

because he didn't give any reasons he just said meta.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 07 2014 15:01 GMT
#213
Long D1 doesn't /= more information necessarily iamp.

But whatever, your preference has been noted.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
July 07 2014 15:02 GMT
#214
On July 07 2014 23:21 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:14 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:05 Toadesstern wrote:
YES BITCHES. I'm not fucking mafia again. Who is up to be my buddy on my legendary quest to murder all of mafia?

So that being said I can somewhat guarantee you that I won't become a whiny emo bitch. But really only somewhat.
Let's start with prplhz because he indeed is way to stiff for this game, especially in the very beginning.
I agree with ... I think Vivax ... that he did sound unmotivated and down in his early posts.
Combine that with posts like
On July 07 2014 21:33 prplhz wrote:
is has nothing to do with confidence or mentality but with an objective evaluation of the situation right now

and he's easily #1 lynch target right now.

If that post isn't some kind of super hard sarcasm that I'm not picking up on it's super "wtf is that guy even talking about" in a way that at the same time tries to sound reasonable / smart / whatever you want to call it.

##vote prplhz



Why should mafia sound unmotivated and down in their early posts.
Why should they post at all if they are unmotivated and down when their objective is to look townie.

This post is too confident about too little for my taste and doesn't deliver any explanation why that mindset makes prpl scum.
Explain why mafia would sound like that or you're scum Toad.

Why would Town post if they're unmotivated and down? - I don't have a clue. I'd say a townie wouldn't mind being a little afk early on because he's usually confident enough to at least look townish enough to not get lynched to the point that one's own judgement of the situation is usually vastly off the mark when playing town.

Why would Mafia post if they're unmotivated and down? - Because that's the point of the game for mafia. They do not wish to contribute anything meaningful to begin with but have to look like they do. Posting while not feeling like it for mafia is what they're going to have to do all game long. On top of that, mafias usually are a lot more selfaware about when it comes about how something would make them look, assuming they're experienced enough to grasp the situation which prplhz is. So mafia doesn't want to be a lurker as mafia for the sake of not being a lurker. That's a completly different approach to a townie he's ACTUALLY posting because he feels like he has something on his mind.

That's 2 reasons for mafia to do that and 0 reasons for a townie to do that. I could give you some reasons for a townie to do the same but that'd require some kind of trolling from his side to be true, which just isn't the case.

I don´t think that would be my mafia mindset.
You scumread prplhz for basically no reason at all and explain it with some bullshit about mafia mindset, not convincing.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 15:03 GMT
#215
On July 07 2014 23:59 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:54 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment

What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.


1) your read on Koshi
2) your unfounded "meta" read on prplhz
3) your discussion of lynch practices -- talking about game mechanics
4) No, I don't enjoy it. Yes, it is beneficial at times because it throws mafia off and makes them unsure of what to do.

how is his meta read on me unfounded?

Cause he didn't give a reason for it. Saying I have a meta read doesn't mean anything. Saying "my meta read on prplhz is that when he is town he does so and so, which he has done this game" has some basis
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2014 15:03 GMT
#216
what page did this game start on
Retired.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 07 2014 15:04 GMT
#217
On July 08 2014 00:01 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:59 prplhz wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:54 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment

What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.


1) your read on Koshi
2) your unfounded "meta" read on prplhz
3) your discussion of lynch practices -- talking about game mechanics
4) No, I don't enjoy it. Yes, it is beneficial at times because it throws mafia off and makes them unsure of what to do.

how is his meta read on me unfounded?

because he didn't give any reasons he just said meta.

hmm maybe we can ask him to explain his meta read and that will give us a clearer picture? i mean, it's not scummy not to explain something, it's scummy not to have an explanation and he might just have that.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 07 2014 15:04 GMT
#218
On July 08 2014 00:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
what page did this game start on

12
I had a good night of sleep.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 15:04 GMT
#219
On July 08 2014 00:01 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:59 prplhz wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:54 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment

What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.


1) your read on Koshi
2) your unfounded "meta" read on prplhz
3) your discussion of lynch practices -- talking about game mechanics
4) No, I don't enjoy it. Yes, it is beneficial at times because it throws mafia off and makes them unsure of what to do.

how is his meta read on me unfounded?

because he didn't give any reasons he just said meta.

MY BRO!
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
July 07 2014 15:04 GMT
#220
On July 07 2014 23:44 IAmRobik wrote:
mderg saying he's afraid to engage with people is awkward. He has done plenty of that in previous games; at least he was actively engaging with me.

I'd think based off of previous experience mderg would be more villainous to me, but he's taking a pretty lax approach. Maybe he's just a forgiving guy, or maybe he's mafia trying not to step on anyone's toes

Do you actually think that I was serious?
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