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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 27 2014 22:54 GMT
#18
/in
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 28 2014 00:35 GMT
#21
What makes us interesting?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 28 2014 00:44 GMT
#23
Oh ok

Mysterymeat and I do irl mafia together on a weekly basis. This is our first time playing together on TL mafia. Should be an interesting game
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 28 2014 09:20 GMT
#36
In this format, does the day instantly end once a majority vote has been established?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 28 2014 09:33 GMT
#38
We should lynch someone before they even come on >=)
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 29 2014 05:12 GMT
#65
Hey sorry I wasn't on today, got called into work ><

Will be busy most of the day tomorrow as well
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 29 2014 05:17 GMT
#66
hmm, looks like nothing's happened so far
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 29 2014 06:38 GMT
#68
Let's not follow BH's advice this game ><
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 30 2014 00:57 GMT
#95
On June 30 2014 06:48 EchelonTee wrote:
Chairman, I'm curious what you think about MysteryMeat (MM)'s list. Specifically his town read on you


Similar impressions as me. He didn't include Snickers, who is the most active player so far. I would personally slot Snickers under slightly scummy just because he's taking some little things a bit too serious.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 30 2014 02:15 GMT
#98
On June 30 2014 11:00 Snickers wrote:
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On June 30 2014 09:57 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 30 2014 06:48 EchelonTee wrote:
Chairman, I'm curious what you think about MysteryMeat (MM)'s list. Specifically his town read on you


Similar impressions as me. He didn't include Snickers, who is the most active player so far. I would personally slot Snickers under slightly scummy just because he's taking some little things a bit too serious.


I think you should be more concerned with that he kept me off his list. It seems like you were but then you got distracted.

Meh look at my meta, I am the most misunderstood mafia player on tl after Bh. I do not go crazy like some people (2 people in this game want to mislead), My "seriousness" is that I am playing to keep stuff organized and clear.

Someone wanted to know my read on Slam.

Slam-bad town (throwing quick votes around and Some post above this one was weird)
StrongNBig-bad town (Throwing quick votes around and only having one post to look at)
Et-bad town (already is super confused with my posts so he hinks he is right and I am wrong)

Do not get offended if you are on that list. I have a small sample size of posts. This is also why I do not read anyone as scum yet. Way too few posts and usually you need to link posts to prior posts.


When you say "bad town", do you mean someone who is playing in a way that is hurtful to town, but the way they're playing would not come from a mafia?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 30 2014 19:28 GMT
#126
On July 01 2014 01:37 strongandbig wrote:
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On July 01 2014 00:37 Snickers wrote:
I do not know what srs means or rvs. I do not understand your post. "Tl townies play like" you mean I am playing how i think Tl townies play like? I do not see the emotion in it either. Look at my meta if you want to know my style. It is different than people on here.

How has no one asked ET yet why he asked Chairman about MM's reads and no one else? That was what I thought was scummy. His question seems forced and not genuine. Even if I did not have "genuine" emotion that is not as bad as questions that are not "genuine". It seems like he just picked it out of the air.

"srs" serious
"rvs" random voting stage

what I mean is that when you complain about "bad townies", how you have to "trick people into listening to you", and how specific players in this game are "bad townies", I see it as emotional complaining about town. It seems like you are grinding a particular axe, but there's no reason for that yet in this game. So yeah, it seems to me that you're trying to play like you think tl townies play, because there's no good reason for you to be upset yet.


I kinda don't want to lynch Snickers. Looking at his play, I get the impression that he's an lesser experienced and overly eager town. I mean, look at his pre-game post:

On June 28 2014 17:15 Snickers wrote:
Walmart Is selling 70 page notebooks for 25 cents. I just bought 16 for this game (notes).Now with tax, the total came to $4.24. I expect you all to put forth similar money into this game. If you are confused use a currency converter.


A mafia right now would want to grasp at some fake reasons to put scumreads onto people, or bandwagon off a town's scumreads on other towns. Snickers has said a lot but it's mostly just for painting people as bad town, and he's the one initializing the pushes onto people and there's no bandwagoning at all. As I said before, I do find it offputting that he's looking too far into small things, and you have an issue with him being overly upset, but I think these are both symptoms of a town that's too involved rather than mafia.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 30 2014 21:39 GMT
#141
On July 01 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:
That reasoning for why snickers is town is really fucking off and seems like CR is trying to pocket snickers


Well, I'm not trying to pocket anyone. The people I'm leaning town on are Snickers, SnB, and ET, and I would prefer they don't get lynched.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 30 2014 21:45 GMT
#143
On July 01 2014 06:11 EchelonTee wrote:
I'm not sure on snickers at the moment. My initial read on him was classic angsty town but I see what you're getting at when you say that his emotion seems forced. However, I suspect that he is trying to bait people into getting mad at him? He talked about how he is trying to "trick" people into agreeing with him.

Overall I find it to be distracting, but I think it is foolish to lynch a talkative person D1 rather than a lurky person D1. At LYLO, I would rather have a chatty Snickers alive to judge a whole filter against, as opposed to someone who has just a few one-liners the whole game. I don't support a lynch of Snickers atm.


I thought it was odd that Chairman Ray had no problems with MM calling him town despite Chairman at the time having very little activity. At the time, Chairman had made 4 posts, in order being:
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Chairman Ray wrote:
We should lynch someone before they even come on >=)
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Hey sorry I wasn't on today, got called into work ><

Will be busy most of the day tomorrow as well
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hmm, looks like nothing's happened so far
Show nested quote +
Let's not follow BH's advice this game ><


All of which is just null (esp. since it was 24h in the game).

The problem I'm having thinking through this is I'm not sure if MM looks bad for randomly calling Chairman town, or if Chairman looks bad for blindly accepting it. The reason why I'm fixating on this pair is because usually if you're playing with people you know, you focus on them since you know how they usually act/talk and have history to base your reads on. I find it very odd that they are hardly interacting despite Chairman saying that this would be "interesting" playing TL mafia with him/her for the first time.

It's possible they are scum together; some classic traits are here. Not much interaction between each other, some support shown for each other, but not taking firm, hardline stands. It seems a bit too obvious though; would MM just up and call his scumbuddy town, if they were scum? That seems too nooby to be scum move, but it's possible if he is new.

Overall, their whole exchange just seems off; it doesn't sound like two townies with a history to me. I was leaning for MM because of his last post and his high lurkiness, but I would be ok with lynching CR as well.


I didn't interact with MM1 for his gut read list simply because it was a gut read list. Some people in that list haven't even started playing yet. I know how MM1 plays, so once he does something he only does when he's mafia, I'll be sure to holler.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 30 2014 22:03 GMT
#146
On July 01 2014 06:41 EchelonTee wrote:
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On July 01 2014 06:39 Chairman Ray wrote:
On July 01 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:
That reasoning for why snickers is town is really fucking off and seems like CR is trying to pocket snickers


Well, I'm not trying to pocket anyone. The people I'm leaning town on are Snickers, SnB, and ET, and I would prefer they don't get lynched.

You basically just picked the most active people (minus Slam)... activity does not immediately = town

who do you want to lynch?


I didn't pick my 3 because they were active. I have other reasons for them and I'm not gonna make a case for them unless we're thinking about lynching them.

If I had to pick people to lynch, right now it would be between poofter and sinani. They have both been cruising by because nobody's on them, and there's no excuse to be this inactive when it's a 9 player game and barely anything is happening.

I also wouldn't mind lynching slam.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 30 2014 22:05 GMT
#147
On July 01 2014 06:52 Snickers wrote:
Well I am still at school so cannot post much. I am voting robik. He shows lack of interest in the game and is very willing to hop onto somebody that is already being voted without his own reason. He is talking about people afking but shit, he is practicality afking by posting such ambiguous stuff. Also mm is looking a lot more like bad town. Cannot quote because I am on phone. He wants to maybe lynch me because I'm a jerk. I think slam is a jerk but I am not going to vote him for only this reason. I would only vote him if I had an equal town read on Everyone which is close to impossible.Will clear up the other stuff in a few hours.

Do not be offended by the good town/bad town. Good scum/bad scum thing. I like people to know what I am thinking. Saying someone is town is way to vague. Just think how differently scum and town play, so do good and bad players. A bad town could look "more scummy" than a good scum.


I wouldn't vote robik for today. He claimed to be skipping day 1 and being more active later on. We can discuss him if he doesn't live up to this commitment.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 30 2014 23:31 GMT
#154
On July 01 2014 08:13 strongandbig wrote:
ok so there's like 9 hours left. given time zone disparities it makes sense imo to start actually trying to consolidate on a lynch now.

I will lynch the following people, in order of preference:

1. Snickers
2. Chairman Ray
2. mysterymeat
3. Sinani
3. Poofter

I will not lynch the other four people in this game, even at the cost of a no-lynch.

Everyone should express multiple people they would be willing to consolidate on, so we can make sure we actually get a lynch today.


Why do you have me as your second top lynch?

Also, I don't think we should all post a list of multiple people we want to lynch. There will be town that appear commonly in a lot of people's lists, and mafia can simply push onto those people and get a mislynch. We should have enough time to figure out an ideal lynch instead of one that most people are willing to consolidate on.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 01 2014 00:24 GMT
#157
On July 01 2014 08:35 EchelonTee wrote:
CR, is there any reason why you dislike SnB's idea of posting multiple scum reads, but you have no qualms with MM posting all of his thoughts continuously? MM is doing the same thing, but to a more extreme degee


MM1 posted all his reads just for giving his thoughts. SnB is suggesting for everyone to post people they are willing to lynch, and then to cross reference lists to determine who we can consolidate on.

Is your read on me because you think there's a lack of interaction between me and MM1? Do you have any other reasons for putting me on your lynch list?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 01 2014 01:23 GMT
#172
I would like to vote Alakaslam

This is one of his first posts:
On June 29 2014 04:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Fine

What I can gather is last people to vote are likely scum hoping they can hammer a townie

But they may know this so there is WIFOM

Think before hammer we have this luxury of time. For now, I think SNB has the right idea

snickers


Instead of posting why he's voting snickers, Alakaslam is pre-emptively defending his fast voting by saying that scum are more likely to vote last. A town would justify a vote after they are under pressure for it. This is very scummy to me.

On June 29 2014 15:35 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 06:12 Alakaslam wrote:
K

So snickers also follow BH scum advice to me


But come forth ye sinister in thy chuckling, simply explain yourself.

When Blazinghand coached me as scum in a newbie game, he advised me to be a jerk

I was "whut"

He was "srs for example: tell (dude) to give his grandmother cunnilingus for he is nothing"

I was "whut"

He was "do it now"

I was "whut"

I lost.

Snickers being catty, a jerk. A snicker is a sinister, mocking chuckle. I ask that he explain his pointing out a post is weird without saying which one it was, a la SNB's pointer.

Now I will read this page y'all


At the time, the reason why SnB voted snickers was because Snickers said a post was weird without indicating which one. Snickers made a sarcastic remark, and Alakaslam pushed him for it with the reasoning that BH coached him saying that being a jerk is a good strategy as scum. This is a pretty far-fetched reason to scumread someone and feels very forced.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 01 2014 01:36 GMT
#189
On July 01 2014 10:32 IAmRobik wrote:
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On July 01 2014 10:23 Chairman Ray wrote:
I would like to vote Alakaslam

How can you like someone who says "I would like to vote alakslam"?

Are you shitting me. What does that even mean?!?!? That's support polite, not trying to step on anyone's toes, omg, i hope people don't hate me for trying to get slam lynched right now, bullshit that's not convincing or forceful and doesn't mean shit, even when combined with a vote.

Why didn't he say "i'm voting slam" or i'm going to fucking vote slam right now cause that dude is fucking scum and here's why


I guess we have a different choice of words then. Do you agree with my case though? Can you support me in lynching him?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 01 2014 03:12 GMT
#205
On July 01 2014 11:15 EchelonTee wrote:

I also feel like your case on Alakaslam is not good.
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 10:23 Chairman Ray wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I would like to vote Alakaslam

This is one of his first posts:
On June 29 2014 04:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Fine

What I can gather is last people to vote are likely scum hoping they can hammer a townie

But they may know this so there is WIFOM

Think before hammer we have this luxury of time. For now, I think SNB has the right idea

snickers


Instead of posting why he's voting snickers, Alakaslam is pre-emptively defending his fast voting by saying that scum are more likely to vote last. A town would justify a vote after they are under pressure for it. This is very scummy to me.

On June 29 2014 15:35 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 06:12 Alakaslam wrote:
K

So snickers also follow BH scum advice to me


But come forth ye sinister in thy chuckling, simply explain yourself.

When Blazinghand coached me as scum in a newbie game, he advised me to be a jerk

I was "whut"

He was "srs for example: tell (dude) to give his grandmother cunnilingus for he is nothing"

I was "whut"

He was "do it now"

I was "whut"

I lost.

Snickers being catty, a jerk. A snicker is a sinister, mocking chuckle. I ask that he explain his pointing out a post is weird without saying which one it was, a la SNB's pointer.

Now I will read this page y'all


At the time, the reason why SnB voted snickers was because Snickers said a post was weird without indicating which one. Snickers made a sarcastic remark, and Alakaslam pushed him for it with the reasoning that BH coached him saying that being a jerk is a good strategy as scum. This is a pretty far-fetched reason to scumread someone and feels very forced.

1st you criticize Slam's early vote. Despite this being an IML setup, that doesn't change the fact that votes done very early are clearly just pressure votes, also known as the random voting stage. Basing a case off of that is ridiculous.

2nd you criticize the same vote, disregarding that Slam has long laid off from his pressure.

It's just not a compelling case.


My criticism of Alakaslam was not because he early voted. It was because he pre-emptively explained why his vote wasn't scummy. That in itself is scummy to me.

Given that he recently unvoted on a wagon that had 3 on it, I'm going to re-evaluate my read on slam. It was a very towny thing to do.
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