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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 05:34 GMT
#226
ugh, MM prolly town but w/e you guys are right

##vote: MM1
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 05:34 GMT
#227
Goodnight
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 13:48 GMT
#241
On July 01 2014 21:59 roundabound wrote:
Mm wasnt even a townread for me. Wtf are you talking about. I said hes probably town because the push on him was baseless. I also saod the only reason I didnt want to lynch him was because hes simba and he was a nice dude whose feelings I didnt want to hirt.

Phone posting sucks

Quoted for my filter. Didn't realize I was logged onto round from my phone

I have a lot to say about banks, and I'll do that at some time today, but I'll preface everything by saying that this is banks' mafia game. I omgus'd him because he should know better than to lynch me d1. He's misportraying what I said, and you guys don't know him as well as I do, but much of what he is saying is 100% not in his town range.

1) he would have been pushing to get a lynch yesterday.
2) I stated very clearly who I'd lynch yesterday (him and CR).
3) I only stated that I wouldn't lynch MM because of what I said above. Him claiming otherwise is a lie

AND

4) What he is doing by telling the cop to check me is 100% a role fish. Banks is fucking mafia.

That's kinda the gist of what I wanted to say. I don't know if I"ll go in depth about it, but I will analyze d1 sometime soon.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 14:12 GMT
#243
Yes you should have. No lynching is infinitely worse than lynching, even if he is town
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 15:41 GMT
#244
This guy is definitely town:

On June 28 2014 17:42 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm town.


Useless post looking like participating (might be confirmation bias):

On June 28 2014 18:20 Chairman Ray wrote:
In this format, does the day instantly end once a majority vote has been established?


I don't get particularly good vibes from this post. The confirmed part feels out of place. Also, why "claiming town" instead of "i'm town":

On June 28 2014 21:42 sinani206 wrote:
confirmed, claiming town


ET, please explain your use of the winky-face emoticon here. It doesn't work and feels forced:

On June 29 2014 01:03 EchelonTee wrote:
hallo

instant majority is pretty uncommon here, not going to find many who have played it much. I think you should think for yourself rather than parrot others Alakaslam


SnB's first and third post are useless and scummy. His second post is interesting to look at though. I don't know if it's RVS or just voting someone for really really poor reasoning:

On June 29 2014 03:41 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 03:36 Snickers wrote:
Yooooooooooooooo so far so good only one weird/annoying post.


says there's a weird post doesn't say what it is
##vote: snickers


Sarcasm is a mafia trait in my experience...but it's not just the sarcasm, it's the rapid change in tone the very next line:

On June 29 2014 04:12 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 02:22 IAmRobik wrote:
(I'm trying to draw a nk from mafia, thinking that I'm a PR when I'm actually just VT)

sick plan bro. let's tell everyone so it doesn't work

or will it? WIFOM FTW

what is the point of saying this? -.-


I just finished the first two pages and snickers looks like fucking shit. His posts are terrible and useless and they all sound forced and convoluted. I can post more examples than the ones i've already posted if needed. He very abruptly changes his tone in every post -- from sarcastic to serious. When I was pre-planning posts as mafia in Order, I would oftentimes find myself doing the same thing.


Echelon Tree actually seems engaged and asking questions to help himself solve the game. I'm willing to give him a pass so far (will do pages 4-5 and beyond when I can)
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 15:53 GMT
#245
Pg 4:

Is Snickers a smurf? How does he know this? I had BH as a coach for me before and he never gave me this advice.....
I read this post and have 0 feelings about it. It says nothing with a lot of words. It's active without being active. He also does that mafia thing (which ritoky is so keen to point out usually) or just responding to peoples' questions line for line, question after question as if it's a homework assignment.

On June 29 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote:
I think the bh scum advice is to make jokes about a topic when someone call you scum. He is not being cryptic it is more of a "let me be overly complicated with my posts because I like to look awesome!". Its annoying just because its so forced and it is also annoying because it is scummy in a way but not so scummy people actually vote for them. So they just cause unneeded confusion all game. Personally I think it should count as playing against your win condition when your town. Being confusing to look cool is just a hassle.

Also ET I do not see how it is excessively negative, I could maybe see negative. I was joking first off. Yes there will be bad players in this game (my second game, first has not even ended but I am dead). If you could not see the only weird post above mine and I had to point it out for you...... hopefully this is your first game.... but wait that would be breaking the rules unless you talked to bh.... oh wait how many people actually read the rules...

As far as IML its instant majority lynch that means that if somebody else hoped into this thread and voted for me, then both mafia players voted for me, it would then probably be 5 town vs 2 mafia. It is also bad because we want to wait as close to 72 hours as possible before lynch.

I do no think its in vogue. But why are you not complaining about slam being constructive? He does not explain a term but I have to quote..... already we are divided.


There's nothing particularly towny about this post, but the tone of it reads so fucking genuine that I'd be surprised if a mafia cared so much and so strongly about someone bashing townies:
I
On June 29 2014 13:36 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote:
Also ET I do not see how it is excessively negative, I could maybe see negative. I was joking first off. Yes there will be bad players in this game (my second game, first has not even ended but I am dead). If you could not see the only weird post above mine and I had to point it out for you...... hopefully this is your first game.... but wait that would be breaking the rules unless you talked to bh.... oh wait how many people actually read the rules...
If you were joking then w.e, I just think it is excessively negative to tell someone to let themself be modkilled if they don't see the thread in the exact same way that you do. Calling everyone bad who doesn't see eye to eye with you is both 1. not conducive to good town environment 2. douchey. but since you were joking, w.e. There are people who aren't joking when they say things like "god you are so fn terrible town would be better if you suicided", etc.

Simply put, I don't like how people often bash town, and in a game like this we are in the best position to subvert that to town advantage. I'm not trying to exclusively single you out, but it is a common thread in most mafia games. Yeah, in most games there are often townie lurkers. Yeah there are often townies who don't explain themself at all. But unlike 30man games where those kinds of things are nearly unavoidable, this is a 9 man game. There aren't many places for scum to hide. So, if we foster an environment where people feel at ease talking discussing sharing reads, it puts a lot more pressure on scum to act, perform.

Show nested quote +
I do no think its in vogue. But why are you not complaining about slam being constructive? He does not explain a term but I have to quote..... already we are divided.
Are you sure, I am not complaining about slam? pls read thread bettr lul


IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 16:55 GMT
#248
Slam, you better start producing and not dilly dallying around.

I'm gonna do my pg 5 stuff now
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 17:17 GMT
#252
Snickers and Slam not maf together:

On June 30 2014 05:19 Alakaslam wrote:
Now defense thyself. Why is your list post not bs and evidence that you are scum with snicker?


On June 30 2014 05:31 Snickers wrote:
Slam stop throwing votes left and right. If u think someone is scum just bold it in this thread. Votes matter at all times, more than just letting people know who you want to lynch in x hours.

Also HMMMMM I wonder why he did not explain his reads. Maybe because when somebody goes into detail, people bitch about the length of it. (this happens across multiple games) Why do you not ask him about why he thinks x is scum or why y is town rather than telling him to explain why he is not scum because what he did is considering scummy by you. Asking him to go into detail about his reads will give more info than.... prove that you are not scum.

And I made a mistake. Thought kush was in this game.


Also the above post from snickers has more tonality changes from serious to sarcastic to serious
I'm reminded as well that SnB is also not mafia with snickers if snickers is maf



This is a really weird/soft push of snickers. Can possibly see them as scum buddies (prolly more confirmation bias):
On June 30 2014 09:57 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 06:48 EchelonTee wrote:
Chairman, I'm curious what you think about MysteryMeat (MM)'s list. Specifically his town read on you


Similar impressions as me. He didn't include Snickers, who is the most active player so far. I would personally slot Snickers under slightly scummy just because he's taking some little things a bit too serious.



This post is kinda towny from snickers, but I don't know why:

On June 30 2014 11:00 Snickers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 09:57 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 30 2014 06:48 EchelonTee wrote:
Chairman, I'm curious what you think about MysteryMeat (MM)'s list. Specifically his town read on you


Similar impressions as me. He didn't include Snickers, who is the most active player so far. I would personally slot Snickers under slightly scummy just because he's taking some little things a bit too serious.


I think you should be more concerned with that he kept me off his list. It seems like you were but then you got distracted.

Meh look at my meta, I am the most misunderstood mafia player on tl after Bh. I do not go crazy like some people (2 people in this game want to mislead), My "seriousness" is that I am playing to keep stuff organized and clear.

Someone wanted to know my read on Slam.

Slam-bad town (throwing quick votes around and Some post above this one was weird)
StrongNBig-bad town (Throwing quick votes around and only having one post to look at)
Et-bad town (already is super confused with my posts so he hinks he is right and I am wrong)

Do not get offended if you are on that list. I have a small sample size of posts. This is also why I do not read anyone as scum yet. Way too few posts and usually you need to link posts to prior posts.




After finishing page 5, I have mixed feelings on Snickers. Some of the stuff he's doing is highly scummy, but posts like the above, and then again this one, make me lean town on him:

On June 30 2014 11:30 Snickers wrote:
When I say "bad town" I mean that this person does not think clearly. He is trying his best, but is just bad at the game. Usually you cannot convince them to vote with you, when you think someone is almost 100% mafia so you have to trick them into voting with you. So like my last game, I tried to trick the town players into voting a person I thought was scum by using "rules" that they highly respected.(I was town) But the mafia played them hard.


I mean, it's possible that he could say this as mafia...it's actually a line that I take quite often "EVERYONE IS SO FUCKING BAD JUST LISTEN TO ME YOU FUCKING SCRUBS," but I guess I also take it as town. I think I use it more often as mafia? I dunno. But like. He sounds so damn genuine in what he's saying. It comes down to if he really believes he's better than the rest of us (LOL if he does)
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 17:20 GMT
#253
On July 02 2014 02:16 Snickers wrote:
Notice how I said "I think" people really miss some big things.

I like pointing things out. I guess you think it is useless. I see multiple good things in that paragraph. Even if that paragraph is useless, you are responding to it. It is creating more talk.

You can't say "my post wasn't pointless because people are bringing it up 10 pages later." Your post was pointless because it didn't fucking say anything.

Did you ever explain your read on the end of page 5 where you said "someone already did something weird and possibly scummy and i'll bring it up tomorrow?" Was that in reference to the post you quoted of me saying that I'm trying to draw a nk?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 17:25 GMT
#256
IDGAF about people going batshit crazy on me for calling them bad. Everyone knows that I think I'm the best player around and that I'm a BM fucking asshole. So if anyone cries about it, I'll just laugh in their face
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 17:29 GMT
#258
Your confusing multiple posts.

Summarizing your post:

Paragraph 1: Explanation of BH scum advice and that you think it's annoying
Paragraph 2: Explanation of how ET shouldn't find your post excessively negative
Paragraph 3: Discussion of IML and how people shouldn't vote cause mafia can late-vote to hammer if it gets close
Paragraph 4: More talk about how being BM is trendy

Please tell me how that post is useful AT ALL.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 17:49 GMT
#262
You're right about part 4. you said it wasn't trendy, but you did say the thing in paragraph 3:


"if somebody else hoped into this thread and voted for me, then both mafia players voted for me, it would then probably be 5 town vs 2 mafia."

You also said the thing in paragraph 1 explaining what the BH thing is, even if it's just what you perceive the BH thing is. Not sure why that changes anything. It's still fucking useless

Part 2 is also fucking uselses

your whole post is useless

you're not giving reads
you're not asking questions
you're not doing anything in it other than just posting words that don't say anything.

I can post all game long about what and how we should play and what would be ideal, but that's all fluff. Anything but giving reads, analyzing situations, asking questions to progress the thread is useless. You didn't do anything to progress the thread, hence your post was useless. This isn't something you can even argue. It's a fact.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 18:02 GMT
#264
Saying not to vote someone early isnt' content and doesn't provide value and doesn't move the thread forward. It's a statement that anyone can make because it doesn't fucking say anything. How are you not grasping this concept? It's like all the fucking talk about whether the vigi should shoot or not in Champions game 3 or 4, whichever one mattchew was in. All those posts were stupid posts about how to play the game and didn't give anything in terms of people's alignments or anything. THE POST IS USELESS. STOP DEFENDING YOURSELF ABOUT IT AND JUST DON'T DO IT NEXT TIME.

As for not giving reads in early game:
How would you like to play the game then early game? How are you going to get someone lynched if you don't give reads? How are you going to get reads if you don't give reads or ask questions? You think you'll get reads by saying "no one should vote early" CAUSE I GUARANTEE YOU YOU WON'T.

In fact, I will argue that what you said regarding point 3 of your useless point is actually wrong! Cause mafia is almost certainly not brazen enough to hop on and mislynch a townie on d1 within 12 hours of the game starting. SO, not only is your post useless, but it's also wrong.

#getwrecked
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 18:38 GMT
#267
On July 02 2014 03:23 Snickers wrote:
Yea and my third point is right. A not so bright townie could come in the thread and do that. Then people would probably freak and mislynch him the next day.

WHAT?!?!? You're the one who is contradicting yourself! You said that mafia would hammer, and now you're saying that a dumb towny would hammer. Make up your mind. Which one is it? Your ponit is wrong. The person who' is bad at this game who you are referring to in all of your posts is yourself and I should have just listened to SnB yesterady when he wanted to lynch the fuck out ofy ou.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 18:56 GMT
#269
Saying that I can't read isn't gonna win you an argument. Anyone who reads what you wrote will come to the same conclusion. If you want to apologize for not saying what you actually meant, then that's one thing, but saying I'm misinterpreting or misunderstanding what you wrote is a huge fallacy.

Whatever, SnB and I will get you lynched tomorrow. No skin off my back. Feel free to ignore me for the rest of the game and continue making useless posts.

Bye!
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 19:09 GMT
#271
How are you still harping on my statement that questions are important. I'm saying to figure out the game you gotta ask questions. The answers you gave fucking sucked and were useless and don't say anything with regards to how you feel about the game. Stop being butthurt about your bad play and fix it
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 19:11 GMT
#272
On July 02 2014 04:01 Snickers wrote:
Wow very mature. Talk shit then dismiss. Hopefully when you come back to the thread you will have chilled the fuck out. It is really simple. My post was answering people. You then say questions push the game forward. Questions are practically useless without answers. This is one of those things were you are so emotional you do not even believe what you are typing at this point. You are just reading me as scum at this point.

No, at this point I'm just arguing with you because I'm trying to drive a point into your pea-sized brain. You refuse to live in a world where you are wrong. But you are wrong in this case so I really really need to work extra hard to make you feel so bad about yourself that you might actually accept how wrong you are from a veteran of forum mafia.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 19:13 GMT
#273
Didn't you promise to leave? Why are you still here? Just go. No one likes you
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 19:25 GMT
#276
You're right. I don't know your alignment. I just think you're an idiot. The problem is determining if you're an idiot who is lying as mafia or an idiot who is so dumb that he believes what he's saying is true
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 01 2014 19:38 GMT
#279
On July 02 2014 04:29 Snickers wrote:
I created a quote for you. And I do not see how its good for you to say I am right about something then proceed to call me and idiot. I knew a fact about you better than you did. Stop being so emotional.

YOU
ARE
WRONG

I don't understand why you keep posting stuff that doesn't pertain to you being wrong. I know how I'm feeling, what I'm thinking and why I'm doing and saying what I'm doing and saying.

I am still referring to your post and you are referring to stuff that's happened since then.

Whatever. I'm done shitting up the thread. IML is nice cause I won't have to deal with you much longer, whether you're scum or not.
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