World Cup Mini Mafia

On June 27 2014 08:24 Tehpoofter wrote:


Or you know too much, make sure if you're mafia to bus please.

On June 27 2014 09:34 kushm4sta wrote:
ok i just checked my role pm because i decided it's pretty lame not to. imo hosts should make scum confirm their role in the scum qt.

im uruguay

On June 27 2014 10:00 kushm4sta wrote:


how so?

On June 27 2014 10:08 Tehpoofter wrote:


I love reading palmer did he quit as town or as mafia... the age old adage.

On June 27 2014 11:59 Tehpoofter wrote:


No lol you've been wrong before the fact you think you have a lock read on someone what 2 pages into the game is laughable. I never even said you were wrong. I just hate when Palmer quits (well accept when he did it in Cell Mafia 2 cause it made him look like a scum lord )

On June 27 2014 17:25 ObviousOne wrote:
Robik can explain that himself. I have an idea of what he might say but it's better to let him explain to better polish my/our read on him.

Kush derping is not necessarily alignment indicative. That's how games typically start on OMGUS anyhow.

On June 27 2014 19:10 Palmar wrote:

He should be policy lynched.

If he's lying, he's doing it for mafia purpose. If he's not lying he's playing against his win con (unless mafia) and needs to be lynched.

He's doing a play that benefits mafia more than town, and should be policy lynched. There is no point in analyzing him unless you think he's lying, and if he's lying he's confirmed mafia.

On June 27 2014 21:35 kushm4sta wrote:


I have been playing the game. My first post about poofter was 100% serious. It wasn't a 100% solid read but it was 100% serious. I think it's scummy when people answer questions for other people and I also think it's scummy how he was trying to be involved in the thread without doing anything I consider townie.

As for my relationship with robik, yes we have made sweet love many times. I broke up with him because his penis was too small however, and I need a real man to fill me up.
I played one game with him that I remember and he acted really confident but he was wrong a lot. So that's the history.

On June 27 2014 21:51 Koshi wrote:
Ok I was wrong about Kush
##unvote
##vote: ObviousOne


Doesn't make any sense.

On June 27 2014 22:14 Koshi wrote:
I guess I explain myself better because I don't want to lose you gooby.

This is how I read the Cav post:
Cav was town in some game and a mafia buddy from OO made cav look bad. Cav is bitter.

Then OO replies with an insanely difficult sentence that looks fabricated like hell, it's a contradiction milshake:
OO starts saying he is town twice in 1 sentence on a different way: "I don't have any partners" and "unless you are town then you are my partner". and ends with "that won't stop someone from coming in to make you look like an asshole again, maybe mafia will oblige and you can nail them for it :D" This is an awkward joke and looks bad because in this sentence OO calls Cav town while in before he didn't have a clue if Cav was his "town partner"


How can OO have no partners when town are his partners?
Why does OO add that he isn't sure Cav is his town partner?
Why is OO saying Cav should vote people that are mean to him on this heuristic alone?
Why does the last part look like a buddying attempt "aka I am not mean to you, don't vote me"

Many questions. My head hurts. ObviousOne not so obvious at all. He mafia.

On June 28 2014 00:15 Rainbows wrote:


My problem is the other game Koshi was town in, I had a scumread on him in the beginning. This time he gives a lot of 'we should look more closely!' whereas in another game to not be named he gave a lot of genuinely considered bad reads for Day 1 and was pressured heavily for it.

On June 28 2014 00:49 kushm4sta wrote:


Ew so anti town. Why do you want to lynch between them?

On June 28 2014 01:18 Koshi wrote:

They are just really boring. I am reading them.

On June 28 2014 01:22 sinani206 wrote:


this is scummy
also i want your 2000th post to be a reply to me

On June 28 2014 01:25 Rainbows wrote:
Robik I didn't like your early game aggro tbh.

But your read on koshi formulates well imo

On June 28 2014 00:24 IAmRobik wrote:
I don'tk now what Koshi is doing with all his voting/unvoting but I don't like it

On June 28 2014 00:25 IAmRobik wrote:

This makes complete sense. I oftentimes say this as town in video mafia.

On June 28 2014 00:26 IAmRobik wrote:

Having said what I said in my previous posts, this analysis of the awkward joke is kinda spot on

On June 28 2014 01:41 sinani206 wrote:


i wasnt 100% sure at first, but then his posts since then have confirmed it to me

On June 28 2014 02:02 sinani206 wrote:


yeah this

On June 28 2014 02:14 sinani206 wrote:


you're scum why should i care what you think of me

On June 28 2014 02:16 Koshi wrote:

The fact that you think people actually believe that you scum slipped TWICE in one post, doing so both times in parenthesis is really funny though.

On June 28 2014 02:28 Koshi wrote:

disagree.

On June 28 2014 02:30 Koshi wrote:

What are you talking about?

On June 28 2014 02:30 Koshi wrote:

Entered the game with a joke and claimed pretty nation pretty fast. Both are unscumlike.

On June 28 2014 01:21 Koshi wrote:

You are RubickTheMagnificentMagus, I hear your words and obey them, I am not worthy to discuss or doubt them.

On June 28 2014 02:43 Cavalinho wrote:


Are we not on speaking terms anymore?

On June 28 2014 03:00 Cavalinho wrote:
Also can you explain the sinani thing to me?

On June 28 2014 03:45 mderg wrote:

definitely wrong

On June 28 2014 05:22 Palmar wrote:
I'm not actually reading the thread dude.

On June 28 2014 07:13 Koshi wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451310-tl-order-lxvi-mafia?user=roundabound

Not sure if it really looks like it. Don't agree tbh. This time he seems to push the thread forward way harder. Last time it was some yelling and stuff.

On June 28 2014 12:30 Cavalinho wrote:
Christ that post is awful. Kush, do me a favor and explain that totally unexplained read on Haru. Explain why you were putting words in my mouth before I even got a chance to catch up with the thread. You're making posts accusing me of shit before I even get a chance to come back to the thread and post my thoughts. What a fucking joke.

No, Poofter's post wasn't clearly explained as an evolving read. What in the actual fuck. Look at that and tell me that it made sense before he explained his meta, because it didn't. You can't townread someone for trolling and doing silly shit unless you actually have a good reason for doing so, because it certainly didn't look like Poofter was doing that.

Seriously, go back and read your own filter and watch your argument collapse in on itself because you can't be assed to pay attention and actually read the thread.

And no, those reads are not "wishy-washy." I just said they're both town. It's really not that hard to see.

Oh wait, you're probably not going to do that. You're too busy making up reasons to make me look scummy.

##unvote
##vote kush

On June 28 2014 13:29 Cavalinho wrote:


1) Maybe I just didn't explain them enough? They felt solid to me at the time. Blegh, whatever, I have them both as town.

2) I don't really agree, but I don't think the fact that we don't agree is important.

Just...let me post next time. >.>

@Robik: Have you been lurking this entire time?

On June 28 2014 17:35 Palmar wrote:
Actually I've changed my mind I want to kill Robik. I don't even know what "the robik situation is".

##Vote IAmRobik

On June 28 2014 18:41 Vivax wrote:
Today I'd probably lynch between Exo, Poofter, Cava, mderg. Palmar not today probably cause he admitted his case was awful and that puts some people who agreed with it into worse positions, namely Poofter and Koshi who I think are scummy.

Exo cause the only time he found it worth to post something it was when a guy scumclaimed, and he was pronto on the spot to do so which tells me he was lurking.

Koshi I would lynch for a mentioned variety of reasons. But I'm willing to give him a 1-day buddy bonus, not today and I wanna reconsider if I'm wrong on him.

Poofter cause his perspective strongly diverges from my townread's perspectives (kush and Rain) and cause his reason for me being scummy is that I ask kush why he doesn't vote Palmar. Koshi himself called me out for this and I replied to it asking what the fuck is scummy about confronting other people if their conclusions differ from mine.

Overall he fails to see how in that situation where I was gloriously debating Palmar I had the Koshi background noise trying to divert my attention, talk about his townreads and then criticizing me for confronting kush with our different Palmar opinions I developed a distrust of both Palmar and Koshi.

Since that game where I hard defended him D1 as scum Cava has been scumreading me D1 every time so I don't put much weight into that but his reaction to Robik's claim was unusual. At first he looked concerned and later he didn't give a fuck and started trolling Robik.

mderg is kinda suspicious for the way he occasionally pops in. I know him to be not the most active but usually as townie, then occasionally he provided longish insight posts that some people found scummy for some reason. However this is probably my weakest suspect for now.

So, I'd say I'd lynch Poofter or Exo if I had to pick one now.

Robik since you seem to know this guy well do you think that this Panks is a solid lynch?

On June 28 2014 19:44 mderg wrote:

I´ve always hated this question

Probably Cav but I wouldn´t want him lynched today.
Maybe haru because his play seems different from the only? game I´ve played with him. In Detention mafia his posts seemed more analytical. It would be more of a shot in the dark, though.

I also don´t like Robik that much anymore since he made this trap which is actually more likely to make townies look bad than scum.

On June 29 2014 01:10 HaruRH wrote:
My reads:

[B ]On robik's fake scumslip

Robik's fake scumslip was the only good opportunity for us all to read reactions of everyone where not everyone is joking away. Cav and sinani stood out for me because they actually believed it was real and they weren't joking . Most have already unvoted and knew it was a joke/fake slip but they continued to seriously called robik scum. Next, exo came in and voted for robik, but never unvoted nor replied to his claims properly.

Reads on me

I also want to reply to all my read-ers properly. Idk why koshi decided not to scumread me, but I felt the love disappearing.
Rainbows continued to pressure me while I was still sleeping. Yay for rainbows. He is definitely town for the amount of content posted, but we all know posts don't mean town. Also, please don't be scared of another mislynch. It is not good to withdraw your vote and reads on me because you are scared.
Robik also scumread me and called me a good lynch for today. But he still haven't said why.

On June 29 2014 01:31 kushm4sta wrote:
iamrob you will suck until you learn humility. it's very important in this game.

i will look into sinani again now.

On June 29 2014 01:31 Koshi wrote:

No. I won't lynch Sinani because I think Cav is scum.

On June 29 2014 01:37 kushm4sta wrote:
lol robik you are remembering the one time you were right and forgetting the countless times you were wrong.

On June 28 2014 02:14 sinani206 wrote:


you're scum why should i care what you think of me

On June 28 2014 04:10 sinani206 wrote:
lol

On June 28 2014 04:18 sinani206 wrote:
Seriously I don't see why how I voted for Robik was scummy. Clearly his reaction to that little wagon helped the thread progress. But it turning into an OMGUS on me isn't exactly what the plan was.

On June 28 2014 06:27 sinani206 wrote:
now that fucking starwars shit is over, robik is playing the exact same way day one.

##Vote: IAmRobik

On June 28 2014 01:30 sinani206 wrote:


thanks for confirming i wasnt sure if it was just by accident after the first post

On June 29 2014 01:58 Koshi wrote:
I have never seen somebody more town than rain.

On June 29 2014 02:04 ObviousOne wrote:

yo stop holding shift all you gotta do is hit capslock

On June 29 2014 05:23 Cavalinho wrote:
You are USA (Cop). Murica'! You're all about freedom and the only real reason you signed up to the World Cup™ was to liberate the commies (rest of the world) from their oppressive free health care and socialism. Fortunately, the government has given you access to top secret NSA spy software which enables you to determine the alignment of a suspect nation of your choice each night in order to determine whether they are on the side of freedom or not. You win when you eliminate all of the mafia.

On June 29 2014 05:26 kushm4sta wrote:
if he was really cop he woudl have claimed it a while ago

On June 29 2014 07:00 ExO_ wrote:
wow **somebody** isn't playing to win but playing against personal grudges

On June 29 2014 23:23 Koshi wrote:
Robik you are fucking shit. You better be mafia.

1) You are ignoring 35 pages of this thread.
2) you were completely wrong on sinani and ignored me while I tried to explain how I saw it.
3) Your shit with the countries is false. Like Kush is saying.


Scummers:
Cav/Robik/mderg

Town
A lot of people. One of the is ExO.

On June 30 2014 07:34 kushm4sta wrote:
robik help me understand why the ffuck you \are lying.

i shot palmar.

On June 30 2014 08:12 IAmRobik wrote:
If Kush really shot palmar he's an idiot.

On June 30 2014 09:17 kushm4sta wrote:
robik why are you lying about being vig? why are you lying about shooting palmar?

On June 30 2014 10:17 kushm4sta wrote:


thanks bro...

about robik's claim. Im pretty sure it's a lie but I really dont understand wtf he is doing.

As for shooting palmar, he looked scummy as fuck. All night long I was like WHY IS PALMAR TOWN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME. No one did. I Said why I thought palmar was scummy, no one responded. I think it was a fine vig shot.

But nice job defending palmar after the fact. I'm currently thinking either you or poofter must be scum, due to balance. You could both be scum honestly.

~~~
Maybe we shouldn't kill cav actually until the other PR is ready to claim. hmmm. I think haru is very scummy it looks like he is setting himself up to vote mderg after cav flips scum.
##unvote

~~~

But yeah rob needs to get back in here and straight talk with me.

On June 30 2014 10:25 ObviousOne wrote:
Would he have looked terrible for taking it back? I guess it wouldn't matter based on the rear of his play so I'll take that potential reason away.

A wagon he wanted to stay committed to and knew he could get away with rising all the way? Fits together with his attitude this game perhaps that's just a persona?

He seemed legit pissed about town derping in Order

He's derpin here

I would say that it's points against him on that front. Is that enough?

On June 30 2014 13:03 ObviousOne wrote:

gonna put the cart before the horse here for a second, lol

if you use that heuristic on me you're gonna have a bad time. my town game is mystical and whimsical, if you want to see what my scum game is like there are a couple examples in my profile. i'm proud of my game in catch 22 even though i lost (also shoutout to DP and rayn, rip in peace bros)

On July 01 2014 01:15 Vivax wrote:


If you still didn't make up your mind about Cav what's this supposed to mean then.

On July 01 2014 01:48 HaruRH wrote:


Cant participate when people are actively trying to find logical loopholes in anything I do
Anything else I do now will just be used as material against me because 'sub optimal scum play LOL'

Yea I failed my promise because I can't deal with kush/mderg /poofter by myself, so just do whatever you want.

On July 01 2014 06:00 mderg wrote:

It´s funny how you assume I play even though you know pretty much nothing about my play. You give reasons for my reads that are just completely wrong and would even be wrong, if I was scum.
I´m not afraid to call you mafia. I retracted my townread on you for a reason. I misjudged the fakeslip , I didn´t see how it would benefit scum at first. You probably are mafia. Your play so far hurt town, you´ve played a huge part in causing a mislynch and spread chaos with your shenanigans.
Also I´m definitely not afraid of going against thread sentiment. The biggest reason why most people read you as town is that you did stupid shit and were emotional on the sinani lynch. Not really reasons one has to be afraid to go against.

Overall you´re not as scummy as haru because there actually are reasons to townread you but they´re not very strong reasons.

On July 01 2014 06:14 mderg wrote:

I think you´re just butthurt because you´re being called scum.

On July 01 2014 06:18 mderg wrote:

Like what?

On July 01 2014 06:18 HaruRH wrote:
I want to make a meme for mderg

"Overall you´re not as scummy as haru because there actually are reasons to townread you but they´re not very strong reasons."

Not a single reason stated why robik could be townread.

On July 01 2014 06:00 mderg wrote:
Overall you´re not as scummy as haru because there actually are reasons to townread you but they´re not very strong reasons.

On July 01 2014 06:26 mderg wrote:

I didn´t fucking townread him.

On July 01 2014 06:33 mderg wrote:
I meant, where did I lie?

On July 01 2014 10:35 Rainbows wrote:


Robik, I think this "lie" is pretty bad. Screaming LIAR LIAR LIAR is blowing it fairly out of proportion when the lie seems like a stretch.

There can be reasons to townread people ("too scummy to be scum" theory, for example), but you don't believe in that reason yourself particularly (because it is not a very strong read).

On July 01 2014 14:13 ObviousOne wrote:
Both Robik and poofter were supposed to find people who called them town scummy based on their D1 play, correct? Did you guys get anywhere with that or is this just an excuse to be different?

On July 01 2014 14:44 ObviousOne wrote:

Okay that's pretty vague, who are those people and did that develop into anything? This post indicates you have someone in mind, you have Stage 1 complete. What's stage 2 of this?

On June 27 2014 11:40 IAmRobik wrote:
If I'm town, palmar is town
If I'm mafia, palmar is town.

You happy?

On July 01 2014 22:57 kushm4sta wrote:
um robik will you kindly please STFU about how you knew palmar was town.
1. he is really good scum
2. he wasn't doing jack shit and therefore it was impossible to townread him.
3. I FUCKING asked you to explain why he was town. But all you gave me was unsubstantiated one liners.

On July 02 2014 00:46 Vivax wrote:
Robik.
Are you aware of the fact mderg called you mafia or at least probably mafia.

On July 02 2014 02:08 Vivax wrote:


I'm just wondering what's stopping you to call him mafia and try to get him lynched like you tried to lynch sinani (aggressively) after you spammed him a liar.

On the other hand I don't see many reasons for why your vote is on haru. Why are you voting haru and not mderg?

On July 02 2014 02:50 IAmRobik wrote:
There's a clear reason not to like the haru lynch.

On July 02 2014 03:04 Vivax wrote:
Ok Robik, then tell me so I don't have to keep sifting through these situations.

I wanna pick apart a bit of this caseblob since Exo hasn't really been discussed thoroughly. Koshi gave him a townread for the Robik vote upon scumclaim but Koshi also believed Robik was town (and that scum wouldn't vote for a scumclaiming town). I don't think we can apply this on ExO as long as we don't reliably know Robik's alignment.

I don't think we can apply this on ExO as long as we don't reliably know Robik's alignment.

On July 02 2014 04:20 Vivax wrote:


Your alignment doesn't change that you can't clear Exo cause he voted for you when you scumclaimed.

That's the whole point I want to make to illustrate why he's a possible scummer. You aren't one of the guys I would lynch today anyway so I don't see a point in continuing this discussion.

On July 02 2014 05:14 Cavalinho wrote:
And I really don't get why you're saying "influence is being stripped from my hands." I've got half the people in the game thinking that I'm mafia because don't think about it or you'll find the plot holes, so it's not like my words even held that much water to begin with.

Also I love how you think I need to change everyone's minds when the wagons are practically even, and I need maybe one or two votes. How asinine.

We are not lynching mderg. The people that are on mderg are either mafia or bad. That entire case is based on associative tells and attacking a player that isn't even around. This is why we've been missing. Get the fuck on Haru.

On July 02 2014 05:18 mderg wrote:
Just got home, can anyone summarize why you want to lynch cav now?

On July 02 2014 05:19 Cavalinho wrote:


Robik was just trying to lynch you for reasons that don't exist.

I have no idea what he's doing now but I've pretty much shut him out completely.

On July 02 2014 05:19 Cavalinho wrote:


Robik was just trying to lynch you for reasons that don't exist.

I have no idea what he's doing now but I've pretty much shut him out completely.

On July 02 2014 05:23 kushm4sta wrote:
fuck where we at

On July 02 2014 05:24 Cavalinho wrote:


Null, probably leaning scum at this point.

On July 02 2014 05:24 mderg wrote:

that´s spot on

On June 28 2014 03:43 mderg wrote:
Did anyone really think Robik actually scumslipped? The supposed slips were so obvious (how they were in brackets and such). It makes one wonder why sinani and Rainbow disappeared after that.

So Robik is probably town. Like no sane scum would do that.

On July 02 2014 05:28 Vivax wrote:
I thought you preferred mderg over Exo

On July 02 2014 05:29 kushm4sta wrote:
robick didn't we decide cav kill was not smart.

seems like its evo vs mderg so which one

On July 02 2014 05:31 ExO_ wrote:


if this is true why wouldn't I just hop on cav bandwagon now? it'd be too complex, mafia trying to meta game that much instead of taking an easy chance to lynch push a town cav lynch are bound to have it backfire

On July 02 2014 05:37 mderg wrote:

I first had him as town for his fakeslip, after vivax wrote his analysis on that I realized that there could be scum motives behind that, so back to null. Then he lied about shooting palmar for a completely stupid reason, so I was leaning scum on him. After he wrote all the stupid shit about me I was pretty sure he´s scum.

On July 02 2014 05:40 Cavalinho wrote:
I am posting my thoughts right now. Is there still some kind of problem?

Also, mderg, clarify the stupid shit. Some of the stuff he just quoted is actually kind of damning and I really need to you to be towny right now.

On July 02 2014 05:49 mderg wrote:
Can someone summarize in a single paragraph why exactly I´m getting lynched?

On July 02 2014 05:51 kushm4sta wrote:


lol

On July 02 2014 05:51 ExO_ wrote:
mafia just saved HaruRH. people shouldn't be this easily manipulated off scum. Harurh is the correct lynch here

On July 02 2014 05:52 mderg wrote:

YOU ARE THE BIGGEST FUCKING LIAR IN THIS GAME!

I ALREADY EXPLAINED WHY IT WAS NOT A FUCKING LIE!

On July 02 2014 05:54 mderg wrote:

you lied about shooting palmar

On July 02 2014 05:55 Vivax wrote:
Given how hard Exo is defending this guy and pushing for haru last minute I'm being paranoid that maybe we should follow that advice.

On July 02 2014 06:07 Vivax wrote:


Robik that kind of joke is weird for somebody who just mislynched.

On July 02 2014 07:16 roundabound wrote:
The trend is to lynch people wgo call me scum. Do you wanna be next?

On July 02 2014 07:02 ExO_ wrote:
Thoguht of a name for what I think robik is. He's "incompetown" lol

On July 02 2014 21:59 Vivax wrote:
Meh I'm starting to think Exo is town, that sense of righteousness around his posts and his repeated asking for me to be vigged is just odd if he's scum. He shouldn't really have such an incentive to post at night but on the other hand maybe HF is threatening to modkill his ass.

Anyway if there's a cop out there who knows that Cav is mafia, tomorrow would be a good time to counterclaim him.

On July 03 2014 01:01 HaruRH wrote:
How crazy will it sound for me to say that there is no scum and this game is purely just for host to see which country survives till the end and then bet on the 'winning' team

On July 03 2014 01:14 Rainbows wrote:
Im hitler. HEIL

On July 03 2014 01:20 Rainbows wrote:
not like i said anything racist. if i were usa i would say i was obama.

On July 03 2014 01:21 Rainbows wrote:
im french irl. and polish.

On July 03 2014 02:14 Cavalinho wrote:
So here's what I'm thinking right now.

A bunch of people have suggested mass claiming tomorrow, and I agree. However, we are not posting role pms. If you're a protective role, you claim VT and only counterclaim someone if they're getting lynched and claim your role. This way, if we hit a mafia claiming VT, we still have a hidden PR that can keep me safe. The only time you should post your role PM is in the event of a counterclaim.

Also, if there is a JK that's doing the roleblocking, maybe you save me tonight, maybe you don't. Idk.

On July 03 2014 02:19 Cavalinho wrote:
No times infinity.

On July 09 2014 05:27 Holyflare wrote:
Brazil fucking wrecked!

On July 11 2014 06:16 Holyflare wrote:


i already told you everything i said was a lie

On July 11 2014 06:17 Holyflare wrote:
i dont got $5 bro

On July 11 2014 06:20 ObviousOne wrote:
131000 doge coin

On July 11 2014 06:24 marvellosity wrote:
making a tough, right decision at lylo is a very difficult thing. many props.

On July 11 2014 06:28 Koshi wrote:
The real heroes are the people that died so that Vivax could play in the finals.

Town had an insane line up though, but scum only needed 3 mislynches to win so I guess that's fine.

On July 11 2014 06:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I just realized that I've lost every single game that I've played.