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On June 27 2014 04:38 Holyflare wrote: Might make it 13 but we'll see You can make it 13 or I can /obs Don't want anyone kicked out | ||
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We koreans do not approve of japanese. Die | ||
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On June 27 2014 22:14 Koshi wrote: I guess I explain myself better because I don't want to lose you gooby. This is how I read the Cav post: Cav was town in some game and a mafia buddy from OO made cav look bad. Cav is bitter. Then OO replies with an insanely difficult sentence that looks fabricated like hell, it's a contradiction milshake: OO starts saying he is town twice in 1 sentence on a different way: "I don't have any partners" and "unless you are town then you are my partner". and ends with "that won't stop someone from coming in to make you look like an asshole again, maybe mafia will oblige and you can nail them for it :D" This is an awkward joke and looks bad because in this sentence OO calls Cav town while in before he didn't have a clue if Cav was his "town partner" How can OO have no partners when town are his partners? Why does OO add that he isn't sure Cav is his town partner? Why is OO saying Cav should vote people that are mean to him on this heuristic alone? Why does the last part look like a buddying attempt "aka I am not mean to you, don't vote me" Many questions. My head hurts. ObviousOne not so obvious at all. He mafia. Your read made me laugh out loud. 'contradiction milkshake' =/= scum in my eyes. | ||
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On June 27 2014 21:29 Koshi wrote: Kush is scum and plays lazy Robik is onto him and calls him out Kush pretends to be still lazy while he is waiting for a fake role PM from Holyflare Kush got the fake role PM and wants a fresh start ##vote: Kush On June 27 2014 21:34 Koshi wrote: Ah wait. That makes sense. The countries are irrelevant. Still. I like my my idea. You scum. Strong scum push on kush, retracts it, goes onto OO and then On June 27 2014 22:40 Koshi wrote: Note to self. I am so scummy that both OO and Vivax want to lynch me when 4 people haven't posted anything of worth. Impressive work Koshi. condescends his way out of a push on him. nope. ##Unvote ##Vote: Koshi | ||
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On June 27 2014 23:48 kushm4sta wrote: @haru if you felt so strongly about koshi being scum then why did it take me asking about your scum reads to say anything about it? Because I just woke up, read through the thread and saw that hilarious post by koshi. When you asked me for a read/lynch, I reread the thread a few times and I picked up on koshi. | ||
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On June 28 2014 01:00 Rainbows wrote: I wasn't referencing an ongoing game. I was referencing a completely random finished game where similar stuff happened, I swear. ##Unvote ##Vote: HaruRH Plz responderino. Reads now <3 rainbows I do not normally do reads on d1 unless someone ultimately scummy pops out. | ||
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On June 28 2014 00:35 Rainbows wrote: All the pressure on Koshi, makes me not like Koshi lynch. Responded well to pressure. Don't like how Haru comes in and votes Koshi. First two quotes in his vote post mean nothing, the third is pretty meh. Seems like he's voting thread sentiment imo. Whenever I make a post and vote somebody and someone else casually drops a vote like that it makes me very uneasy. What is the thread sentiment? I no get it. So are you pressuring me now or are you voting me because you don't like a koshi lynch? | ||
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On June 28 2014 01:15 Koshi wrote: Min. 2 scum in here. I put monies on it. 1) ObviousOne 3) sinani206 8) mderg 10) ExO_ 13) HaruRH I think we have went through this before. Lynch me on d2 because my d1 sucks. Because I already said that I don't like pushing hard on d1 nor do confirmed reads. these things are for flips and vote analysis for me. Some people take longer to formulate opinions, you know. | ||
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On June 28 2014 01:17 Rainbows wrote: <3 HarurRH. I don't care what you normally do. KK leave your vote on me, I don't want it on anyone else. Your vote is mine. | ||
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On June 28 2014 01:20 Koshi wrote: I will lynch you when more names on the list disappear and you are left alone (or with your scumbuddies). Who do you think is a scumbuddy of yours? currently, everyone is null because nobody is posting anything alignment indicative imo. | ||
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On June 28 2014 01:26 IAmRobik wrote: I'm not asking you or anyone else to read my. I know my alignment (mafia). I'm trying to figure out the alignment of everyone else in this game (or at least try to figure out if they're a PR or just VT). So I want people to respond to my reads posts and tell me whether they agree or disagree with them and why. Having them ignored just pisses me off LOL do you all really think this is something even a newb would slip | ||
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On June 28 2014 02:18 Koshi wrote: We can make such a sick towncircle this game. Am I included | ||
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is it because I voted you | ||
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but only rainbows can vote me. You're not allowed. | ||
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On June 28 2014 02:30 Koshi wrote: Entered the game with a joke and claimed pretty nation pretty fast. Both are unscumlike. Now ill ask you a real question. how can Koreans be mafia? | ||
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On June 28 2014 03:44 IAmRobik wrote: calling it now for post-game sake mafia = mdreg, haruh, sinani Something for me to laugh about at post game. | ||
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On June 28 2014 04:15 sinani206 wrote: oh are we listing scum teams now? yeah mine is me, robik, koshi this fucking game rofl robik? Did'nt he claimed mafia already? Duuuuuude get someone else. You're not being original. | ||
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On June 28 2014 04:18 sinani206 wrote: Seriously I don't see why how I voted for Robik was scummy. Clearly his reaction to that little wagon helped the thread progress. But it turning into an OMGUS on me isn't exactly what the plan was. no. It is more of how you replied to him. You instantly locked onto the fact that he is mafia, despite everyone knowing this is obviously a lame bait to see who bites. congrats, you bitten. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: sinani206 | ||
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On June 28 2014 04:21 sinani206 wrote: I'll bite anything I can day one. What else would I do. you could attempt not to bite it | ||
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On June 28 2014 04:22 sinani206 wrote: sounds good do you want a side of omgus with that or is that too much for now Pretty sure it isn't OMGUS. | ||
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On June 28 2014 02:55 IAmRobik wrote: Well you're still voting me, so explain: 1) why you voted me in the first place 2) why your vote is still on me Hey sinani look here answer these questions for bonus town points | ||
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On June 28 2014 13:11 kushm4sta wrote: 1.^ those are really wishy washy town reads that you coudl change at your convenience. 2. it was pretty well explained that poofter scumread rob when he hadn;t finished reading the thread. then as he read the thread, the read turned into a town read. eh i take back my hard scumread of you ##unvote ##vote haru Eh you still didn't explain your scumread on me, nor why you voted for me. | ||
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[B ]On robik's fake scumslip[/b] Robik's fake scumslip was the only good opportunity for us all to read reactions of everyone where not everyone is joking away. Cav and sinani stood out for me because they actually believed it was real and they weren't joking . Most have already unvoted and knew it was a joke/fake slip but they continued to seriously called robik scum. Next, exo came in and voted for robik, but never unvoted nor replied to his claims properly. Reads on me I also want to reply to all my read-ers properly. Idk why koshi decided not to scumread me, but I felt the love disappearing. Rainbows continued to pressure me while I was still sleeping. Yay for rainbows. He is definitely town for the amount of content posted, but we all know posts don't mean town. Also, please don't be scared of another mislynch. It is not good to withdraw your vote and reads on me because you are scared. Robik also scumread me and called me a good lynch for today. But he still haven't said why. | ||
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On June 28 2014 23:40 Cavalinho wrote: I would. I've got a case on Haru that I'm going to post after I get back from the gym. Ohhhh shiiieeet imma get some love | ||
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On June 29 2014 01:19 kushm4sta wrote: [/b]The "my reads" section is really just you saying some inconclusive shit about some stupid shit robik did. Cav and sinani stood out for you the fuck does that mean? so... wat??? Stood out in the incident for me. So I'm on the fence for rainbows. Like I said, I don't lock in my reads d1 because I know where it usually leads to. Hey, if you disagree, great! It means your playstyle is different from mine! | ||
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On June 29 2014 01:25 IAmRobik wrote: [/b]I called you mafia, because mafia is generally on the "correct" side of a fake claim...they'll always be like "oh yeah, that was totally obvious." and the way you did that seemed scummier to me than the way that Koshi did it. But my logic told me it was a totally fake claim, so I called it a fake claim. I was more like 'that's so obvious I don't see anyone getting baited by that' but hey, people do surprise me. | ||
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On June 29 2014 02:23 Koshi wrote: Sinani is still holding strong on the scumslip thing... Amagad... I don't know guys. I don't think the thread sentiment is that you're town, sinani. | ||
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On June 29 2014 05:11 Koshi wrote: Is it bad I could sheep Palmar? Go ahead, after all I voted you and you didn't get the chance to vote me yet | ||
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On June 29 2014 04:44 Cavalinho wrote: Haru: Haru's entry into the thread is downright awful. It reeks of "I fit in with you guys," but it stands out to me for two reasons: 1) It's late. He simply had no way to insert himself into the game otherwise so he tried to latch on to an RVS that ended several pages ago. 2) It's forced. Jokes are good, but his joke was so awful and out there that I think he simply had no idea how to open. The post strikes me as a way of forcing himself into the thread. I don't like it. I don't get how people think it's towny. His case on Koshi was pretty bad, just some lazy post-by-post analysis followed up by an "oh I don't think anyone is scummy." There's a lack of consistence in his reads and I don't understand how people can go "oh, that's not so bad." I know people were harping on it for a while but I don't feel like it was ever addressed/answered properly. And then there's the issue of his read on me. He says he's okay with lynching me because I'm still harping on Robik being scum, while I am trying to sheep Robik on his case. His comment is incredibly opportunistic and he isn't even bothering to come up with a good excuse for trying to lynch me. I think a lot of people are being clouded by "omg cav so scummy" when stuff like this is happening. If we can't get a wagon on sinani going, we 100% lynch Haru today. So bad. I wasted 1 hour of my vote on you. What a waste. Your 'analysis' is the same as everyone else's, why not just go and copypaste theirs? Why would I want to fit in with you guys? I don't. I don't like jumping to conclusions like you like to. LOLOL at that time, you cant formulate a good enough read. You know how I know? Because you didn't do so then. "And then there's the issue of his read on me. He says he's okay with lynching me because I'm still harping on Robik being scum, while I am trying to sheep Robik on his case. His comment is incredibly opportunistic and he isn't even bothering to come up with a good excuse for trying to lynch me. I think a lot of people are being clouded by "omg cav so scummy" when stuff like this is happening." Opportunistic? Even if I was blindfolded and asked to type what I feel about cava/sinani still serious about robik's fake scumread, I would have shouted 'THATS SO SCUMMY'. I don't need a good excuse to lynch you, your actions is a good enough excuse. If we can't lynch cava/sinani today, then town is fked. Such an obvious hit on mafia and yet, you lynch someone who could only formulate opinions d2. | ||
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On June 29 2014 05:17 Rainbows wrote: Why would killing you be dumb bro? You played dumb. This is objectively a good lynch for anyone who doesnt know yoyr alignment, because you have the best chance to flip scum based on stuff you did. When somebody actually scum slipped? You go for the easy lynch over the obvious lynch? | ||
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If people still want to lynch him -> dead If he survive -> scum shoot him -> dead RIP cava. | ||
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On June 29 2014 05:22 Rainbows wrote: My quote was responding to Cav. Idk what you talking about I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about me. LOL | ||
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On June 29 2014 05:25 Vivax wrote: So Cava why have you been playing so much like ass up to this point when usually you should feel like somebody really important as blue. What makes you think he did not ask for a fake cop pm? | ||
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On June 29 2014 05:26 Koshi wrote: It doesn't matter. If he is scum we will lynch him later. Sucks if he is scum but eventually it will become clear. So sinani today? ##Unvote ##Vote: sinani206 | ||
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On June 29 2014 06:13 kushm4sta wrote: i think it could make sense. It's natural to not want to lynch a blue claim. And there was only 1 other option. On June 29 2014 06:00 mderg wrote: ##unvote ##vote cav So why did he switched to cav at the last minute? | ||
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On June 29 2014 22:44 Rainbows wrote: Haru and Tehpoofter I know they're playing in a different game right now. For Haru, I'm going to excuse the activity until day 2, where I expect results from him. In fact, Haru, I REALLY want your opinion on the fake cop claim, like talk to me about it and where you're coming from on the situation. I think you might be able to shine a better light on it than anyone else. Banks is also playing in another game, and he seemed kinda-sort-townie catching up in the thread. However, I can't remember anything he's done this game except be at odds with Robik which doesn't tell me anything. I grouped Haru and TP together because they both have an excuse for not being here as much (that I can see, tangibly) and I want to get a better read on them tomorrow. Haru promised reads. Banks needs to do the same. I feel that I need to reply to this first, since this is quite urgent. On Cav's cop claim Cav is really smart. This is a really good call, either mafia wise or town wise. As a mafia, he is guaranteed at least 1 day of protection from lynches and kills. If cav is scum, cav is able to fakeclaim cop, fake jail/medic (a roleblock claim would just be dumb), and skim past n1 into d2 for free. This at least ensures he can run away from his d1 mess and set up for d2. If cav is town, cav is able to claim cop and hope for a medic/jail on him. After all, in a 12 player game (until I became the 13th), there are mostly VERY little roles, probably 1 or 2. Usually a cop and a medic or a cop only. At least he is given a chance to try and survive. However, my read on cav thus far is that he is scum. His d1 defense screams 'YOU CANT LYNCH ME' over 'YOU SHOULDNT LYNCH ME BECAUSE I AM SOLVING THE GAME', which blue roles especially should feel and defend as such. however, as usual, he cover up this mistake by throwing in a statement of 'I never value my role over my analysis.'. So far, his analysis isn't up to par either. Cav would definitely make a good vigi shot now. His words cannot be trusted since he will be roleblocked/jailed forever, meaning that he could never tell us who he checked, which completely prevents him from showing evidence to prove it. This alone isn't enough to say he is scum, but like what I mentioned, his attitude thus far has never felt like it came from a real cop, trying to solve cases. Instead, it feels like a scum who wants to quickly be thrown into town protection. After all, some towns here made it clear that they won't lynch cop claims. Mderg's vote analysis On June 29 2014 06:03 Holyflare wrote: Vote Count - Day 1: Palmar (0): Vivax (0): sinani206 (6): Tehpoofter (0): kushm4sta (0): IAmRobik (0): ObviousOne (0): Koshi (0): HaruRH (1): Cavalinho (6): ExO_ (0): mderg (0): Not voting: Nobody! sinani206 has been lynched with 6 votes! Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! his last minute change to cav was not shown, but his flippy floppy votes are very scummy. He have repeatedly mention that he don't want to lynch cav : + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2014 05:41 mderg wrote: With Cav´s claim there´s no way we should lynch him now. I also don´t want to lynch sinani because I don´t think scum would actually react to the Robik fakeslip like he did. Still a better lynch than cav but I would rather lynch haru right now. On June 29 2014 05:59 mderg wrote: Ok, between cav and sinani I´d rather lynch sinani ##unvote ##vote sinani However, at the last minute, because apparently he saw exo's vote, he changed to cav. This is definitely scummy because it helps him look less scummy from being involved in a town lynch. Exo would look scummy for hopping in last minute, but mderg would look less. Also, he probably suspect cav as a real cop and thus wanted to lynch him (scum motive) if that was true. He could easily use the excuse of exo shifting votes to show that he was only reacting. I am sure there is a scum between cav and mderg. If cav flips blue (or green), mderg would be the biggest suspect for trying to lynch him despite crying out to town to not lynch him. On the other hand, if cav flips red, mderg is town because no scum would last minute change their vote to lynch their own scumbuddy. He could as easily remained on sinani lynch and save cav for a day. (actually, this might be what he did for posting during the time limit? <- WIFOM) | ||
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On June 29 2014 05:23 Cavalinho wrote: You are USA (Cop). Murica'! You're all about freedom and the only real reason you signed up to the World Cup™ was to liberate the commies (rest of the world) from their oppressive free health care and socialism. Fortunately, the government has given you access to top secret NSA spy software which enables you to determine the alignment of a suspect nation of your choice each night in order to determine whether they are on the side of freedom or not. You win when you eliminate all of the mafia. I also have a feeling that cav modified his original pm to match his claim. 'You're all about freedom and the only real reason you signed up to the World Cup™ was to liberate the commies (rest of the world) from their oppressive free health care and socialism' sounds like a flavour for scum to me. This is probably host WIFOM, but this is what I think. Or he could have just asked for a cop fakeclaim from host. | ||
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On June 30 2014 00:58 Koshi wrote: HaruRh. Could you check Poofter his filter and look for posts that further the game. How useful is poofter this game? His filter for the second half of D1 (where the trollness lessens) have been mostly useless questions and one-liners that are used to indicate activity on his end. I can't really get a good read on him because he have posted nearly nothing of significance so far, other than his obsession with vivax. Likewise, I want to give him time to get back into this game. | ||
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On June 30 2014 01:09 kushm4sta wrote: so haru you think cav is mafia and who else?? cav mderg do you want to join the team? | ||
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On June 30 2014 01:11 kushm4sta wrote: but i thought you said it was one or the other... Yea. It means both are scum to me unless the other flips. doesn't matter much. | ||
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On June 30 2014 01:15 kushm4sta wrote: No. This is not how townies think. If you have a scumread on one you should have a townread on the other. Any other scumreads apart from those two? Cause you really cav is dying no matter what so that scumread isn't really worth much. Why can't town think like that? Both mderg and cav can be mafia, there is a chance. It is just more likely that one is town over 2 is scum. Cav is not dying no matter what, unless he gets lynched tomorrow. | ||
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On June 30 2014 01:22 IAmRobik wrote: You are Greece (VIGILANTE). Your country couldn't really afford to send you to this World Cup™ so you're playing football naked wearing sandals, but bullets that you can shoot out of your penis. You only have your fighting words and your vote. You win when you eliminate all of the really really bad townies. This is your MAFIA QT, with partners x,y, and donkey z ScumQT Why can't I enter tubgirl? | ||
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Cav is bullshit lynch him today ##Vote: Cavalinho | ||
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HE WANTED THE WORLD CUP RESULTS HERE @Vivax The lynch was between a supposedly scum trip from sinani (I read him that way too) versus a supposedly cop. Both are scummy, both lynches had high possibility to hit scum. | ||
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I sneeze when people fakeclaims | ||
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On June 30 2014 07:20 HaruRH wrote: I sneeze when people fakeclaims and I sneezed exceptionally hard, harder than even crap when cav tried Is probably what I wanted to put across lmao | ||
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On June 30 2014 07:30 Cavalinho wrote: Robik claimed a shot and two people are dead. He is confirmed town. Thank you for not basing your thoughts on actual things. Again. He claimed cop on palmar (town) and shot on kush too. | ||
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On June 30 2014 07:34 kushm4sta wrote: robik help me understand why the ffuck you \are lying. i shot palmar. See cav. You wanna wait and see how many more claimers | ||
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On June 30 2014 07:41 Rainbows wrote: What the actual fuck is happening... Level 100 wifom time Scum probably had a list of all players and countries, shot england and spain for fun. Or they actually wanted to shoot koshi for being too town. I don't want to explain palmar's sad death. (Probably vigi) | ||
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On June 30 2014 10:19 kushm4sta wrote: * haru setting himself up to lynch mderg after cav flips town Kush scumslips ##Unvote ##Vote: Kush His vote on me is completely hinging on the fact that cav flips town. What confidence. | ||
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On June 30 2014 10:34 ObviousOne wrote: Haru was on both dead people's lists and mine That's like third time's the charm ##vote: harurh On both dead people's list as town* | ||
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On June 30 2014 10:27 ObviousOne wrote: The pissed is more about status of how games play out not about winning I think it was in the scum or obs qt Wifom. I was pissed because everyone didn't understand that 1 game of meta cant be used, thus I switched up and got meta read. This wagon on me by oo and kush is so telling. Scumpool: cav kush oo exo mderg 3/5 is scum here | ||
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On June 30 2014 11:34 kushm4sta wrote: nah bro it's really not. I have many many reasons for believing you are scum. That thing I was saying about you and cav actually has to do with cav's potential scumminess, not yours. If I don't see the many many many reasons spelled out to me, I have no reason to believe you have any reasons. | ||
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On June 30 2014 10:34 ObviousOne wrote: Haru was on both dead people's lists and mine That's like third time's the charm ##vote: harurh Wait You talk so much about robik and you voted me because of 1 sentence? | ||
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On June 30 2014 11:43 ObviousOne wrote: Kush convinced me to convince myself Robik is town and the rest is anybody's guess. K | ||
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On June 30 2014 22:26 mderg wrote: I don´t get your reasoning. Let´s take a look at the different possible scenarios here. 1)my last vote switch counting and cav being cop: I would look scummy as fuck for last minute switching to the cop, like the scummiest player in the game. 2)my last vote switch counting and cav being scum: I would look super awesome for saving town from the mislynch and making the deciding vote on a scum. 3)my last vote switch not counting and sinani being scum: I would look extremely bad for attempting to switch at the last second 4)my last vote switch not counting and sinani being town: I don´t really look good but also not really bad for it summary: The last minute switch can only make me look good, if cav is scum. If he is town, I look bad. So why would I ever do this as scum? There would be no actual benefit for it. So the most logical explanation is that I am town and thought cav was scum/ was scared of Exo deciding the lynch I think you are making up reasons to make me look bad here. Your reasoning is wrong and if you had actually tried to find the mafia mindset behind my play, you would have seen that it just doesn´t make sense. I can´t imagine a townie drawing these conclusions. ##vote haru Guys we don't need to play mafia anymore, lets just logically conclude ourselves as town. I also simply can't see how a town could come up with these conclusions about their own play. Easy. Because you can use it as an argument (it won't make me look good so why do you think I'm doing it). These votes on me are so scum driven that I have nothing to say. To anyone who assumes things like 'Lol haru setting up double lynch etc', that's another flawed argument. Either cav and/or mderg is scum, so I'll put them both as scum. That is MY scumread. But hey, looks like poofter, kush and mderg really pushes on false agendas and small misintepretations. also, cav setting it up as a 'scum bait' for his claim is hilarious. | ||
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On June 30 2014 05:48 Koshi wrote: Top town Rainbows, ExO_ Dont lynch them. Just don't. Exo pure gut. Really strange townread from Cav when ExO still had to vote on the 2 wagons. Also ExO delurk on the "scumclaim" from robik makes him town. ExO pretty town. Town HarurH, Vivax, Robik, Palmar Dont' lynch them unless they say really dumb shit. Vivax pretty town. Robik pretty scum. But you can see what they really are based on how much smart things they say. HaruRh my guttown. Palmar dnu but you can listen to him. Null Kushm4sta He is off. Probably needs to be lynched D3, 4 All the people not mentioned should be lynched. mderg/OO/Poofter/Cav + 1 from above. Endgame cred: Cav/Kush/Poofter Quoted for reference. Koshi and I have similar scumreads so I am going to go to the obs QT in 1 day 4 hours and hi five him for the same reads. And no, I don't want to defend myself anymore. There's literally no arguments in anyone's votes and all sorts of false bullshit are used as votes on me. Its better to go there now than later, when the bullshit starts to condense and make the game unplayable. Wp cav and his scumbuddies, another free win like in tl order by making town fk themselves. | ||
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On July 01 2014 00:56 Vivax wrote: Is there any poor soul in here that still thinks Cava is a cop? Where have his N1 posts been when he should have been afraid of being NKed, leading to him posting about stuff that would be important before his eventual death? Yes vivax you understand. I'm sheeping you so that you get some free townie points when I flip. | ||
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Nah, cav is still my top scumread. But I like how you and kush are just tag teaming up against me. On one hand, its scummy for me to lynch cav, then lynch mderg because apparently only scum does that. On the other hand, it is scummy for me to lynch cav, then townread mderg because I am playing suboptimal scum to be townie. Great job on your logical loopholes | ||
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On July 01 2014 01:45 IAmRobik wrote: Dno't we have another like 24hrs. Is this really all your participation is going to be? I mean, I haven't really read all of d2 at all, but this is pathetic. You say you step up your game after d1 and your performance is really lackluster Cant participate when people are actively trying to find logical loopholes in anything I do Anything else I do now will just be used as material against me because 'sub optimal scum play LOL' Yea I failed my promise because I can't deal with kush/mderg /poofter by myself, so just do whatever you want. | ||
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On July 01 2014 02:23 IAmRobik wrote: If you're town then fuck you for this attitude. Yea. I have exams right now, in both my mafia games, I am getting tunnelled heavily, everything I say and do is scum, whatever I write is dismissed as objectives (cav = major lynch so my points on cav is useless according to kush). My mental capacity is too low to try and convince people for another day that I am not scum and all their explanation were all bullshit. I no longer can 3v1. I need a rest. | ||
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On July 01 2014 02:37 IAmRobik wrote: You have 24hrs to relax and do work. You analyze voting if I remember your claims correctly. Granted, I haven't paid much attention to this game, but I didn't see any of this. Why? Busy these 2 days. Exams. Not possible for me to spend more than 10 mins on games for now. Need to clear my exams first. I'll probably post something 15 hours later when my calculus exam finishes. Meanwhile, I can answer any questions that isn't a logical loophole nor take me too long to answer. | ||
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On July 01 2014 02:46 IAmRobik wrote: Do you think I'm town? Do you think that I was coming from a town mindset when I was making the mafia claim? What do you think of ExO's vote on me because of it? What do you think of me and Koshi clearing ExO for it? What do you think of ExO continuing to pressure me? Does mafia have 2KP or 1? Did kush stack his shot on palmar with mafia? Yes you're my townread. Yes it was obvious that your goal was to fish out bad responses. Exo's initial vote was ok, but the way he afked and left the vote on you all the way till the end before switching to sinani is very suspect. You 2 cleared exo because he voted on you, which was a response that you 2 wanted to see. But the way he stayed on, you need to re evaulate. Exo's pressure on you is unwarranted. Mafia probably have 2kp (1kp + scumvigi). It is just too dumb for townvigi to shoot palmar or koshi. No he didn't. Too unlikely. If kush shot palmar then he could be scumvigi. | ||
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On June 30 2014 09:50 ExO_ wrote: I don't have time for you. Try not to cry when I ignore your posts Also, his play is toxic | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:11 IAmRobik wrote: for real though, mderg, your posts says nothing, it's stupid, and you're not even pressuring me, so the fact that you feel the need to write a whole paragraph about the fact that I'm scum is laughable and scummy in and of itself He also felt the need to say that I'm more scummy than you despute him bringing out so much about you | ||
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"Overall you´re not as scummy as haru because there actually are reasons to townread you but they´re not very strong reasons." Not a single reason stated why robik could be townread. | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:22 mderg wrote: thread sentiment was that robik is town because of his fakeclaims and being emotional about the sinani lynch. These are the reasons he could be townread for. So you townread people because of thread sentiment? Wtf? Best reason 2014 Next you're telling me robik is town because it consist of 5 letters, like mderg while haru is 4 letters so hes scum | ||
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*more town than haru, or less scum than haru | ||
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Fine, let me rephase it Haru less town than robik and mderg because haru have 1 less letter Thats why exo is top scum | ||
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I thought we were listing bullshit reasons to townread/read a scum more towny than other scum? | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:36 mderg wrote: Imagine this: 2 people are scummy, 1 of them has some small reasons to be slightly less scummy --> 1 is scummier than the other. Shouldn´t be that hard to understand. You still haven't explain what is that small reason properly And I won't take 'thread sentiment' as an answer | ||
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For example, to calculate my actual reads, I need to set my opinions first. I think cav/pooft are scum. So I would assign them a number of -2. I would be 0 because I dont townread/scumread myself. Haru: 0 Poofter: -2 Cav: -2 However, thread sentiment is that cav is a real cop (+5), poof is just an afk townie (+3) and I'm scum for 4 people (-4). So this comes out as: Haru: -4 Poofter: 1 Cav: 3 Final verdict: my read is that myself is scum bevause THREAD SENTIMENT LUL | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:39 mderg wrote: It´s not thread sentiment, it´s the reasons for the thread sentiment being as it is. The reasons for voting me so far have been one liners, wifom of level 1000 or no reason at all. So how would you read the reason for thread sentiment thinking im scum? | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:59 mderg wrote: These reasons you want me to give don´t matter. I´ll try to explain this like for a 5 year old: I think you both are scummy for reasons I already gave, there´s no proper reason to townread you, there have been reasons mentioned in the thread that make robik slightly less scummy. The reasons to scumread you two has nothing to do with thread sentiment, the reasons why robik could be townread have been mentioned in the thread and they are not completely stupid or something, they´re just way to little to negate the scumread. Naturally, I think it´s better to lynch the scummier guy before the slightly less scummy guy. Haru - Instantly comes out with the vote on Cav if it turns out Cav is mafia I feel like this is exactly what he would do. I also liked someone's point that it felt like he was going to transition from a cav red to an mderg lynch which is the kind of planning I feel like scum do more than town. I lynched him last game because of his playstyle so I'm most hesitant about this read. GUYS LOOK AT WHO IS REALLY PLANNING FOR A TRANSITION LYNCH LOL | ||
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Anyway, my lynch here will go in line with the world cup theme. Korea got outed, so its my turn to die | ||
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On July 01 2014 22:55 kushm4sta wrote: 1 Perhaps too easy. Especially when there are a bunch of people deserving of a lynch. 2 Haru is a noob, which makes it harder for me to read him, since I usually try to read people by looking at the quality of their reads. 3 Mderg vs Cav stance seems almost too scummy to be scum. It's just he was especially unaccommodating when I pressed him about how it didn't make sense for his two scum reads to be a one or the other situation. Haru aint noob, haru got exams and was so stressed that he couldn't concentrate on either. | ||
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On July 02 2014 02:50 Vivax wrote: Also the "case" he wrote on Koshi there is so exceptionally bad, it just looks like he threw together a bunch of stuff but nowhere does he explain how that stuff makes Koshi scum. Also he says Koshi retracted his scumread on Kush but in the Koshi quotes that's nowhere to see. Exactly. If anyone bothered to read it in context, I just came into the thread and was immediately asked to create a scumread. So I just quoted what I thought koshi wrote as scummy. The next person who quotes this post without reading the backstory will get tortured in a pit of twilight | ||
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On July 02 2014 10:36 Rainbows wrote: More work tmrw so probably best to get these out now -- we most likely need to lynch scum tomorrow or game over, right? 9 alive right now. (3 v 6). scum kill 1 at night (3v5), then if mislynch + KP it's game over. If I die, listen to me. For God's sake, listen to me. I feel like I'm alone in this town after yesterday, and we need to get shit done tomorrow. Apologies for the wall of text but I don't feel like quoting anything and I'm tired so w.e. Tomorrow. Do NOT lynch Vivax if he is still alive. He is probably town, but has some pressure on him from people I'm finding scummy. I don't know for 100% if he is town, but he's the closest thing I can get to someone I can trust. If he is mafia, he will probably survive until 1v2 lylo where, if not dead, town will need to take a good look at him and decide from there. If he is lynched tomorrow and flips town, I will never forgive anyone who is town and lynched him because my read was correct. IAmRobik I've been heralding him as "too crazy to be scum" for quite some time -- and that heuristic rings true with most of the work I've done in mafia so far. Mderg did bring up a good point, though that his shenanigans (the 'fake slip, the fake claim vigi) haven't net us any mafia and have lynched town so far. With Mderg flipping town, I think that is something good to look at. Robik posting Liar Liar Liar to Mderg seemed a bit excessive to me at the time, and I also thought Mderg was mafia, but not for that reason. He's crazy, but mafia can be crazy. Still, f Robik is mafia, he's played extremely well. And I would condone him for it post game--he and Mocsta fooled me hard in Order, but that was a hydra. He is sure playing much differently than last game. I wouldn't lynch him tomorrow based on the change in meta imo, and that I hope my too crazy to be scum theory works out in the end. Again, more flips equal more analysis. For the two above, the hardest thing to parse out between mafia play and town play is intention. It is impossible to know whether or not Vivax or Robik intentionally mislynch a townie. Once a scum flips however, hopefully the association and the "Did he really want to lynch scum X?" will guide us to them if they are mafia. For now, though, they are bad lynches. Tehpoofter I haven't looked at Banks the entire game. Vivax said something that I really agreed with, that Tehpoofter is the "closest thing we can get to a ghost" in this game. He has a bunch of pages in his filter which indicates activity -- but I can't remember most of what he's done this game. I know that he has voted on both mislynches. Voted Mderg early on when everyone was on Haru. Looking through his filter, I can't say his analysis on situations is terrible. But I can't say his posts are astounding either. Posting a lot but blending into the background, mislynching townies, a decent pick to be scum. He has also defended Cav, which I find bad because town has no friggen clue whether Cav is faking cop or not. Could be scum trying to keep his fake cop alive, or scum trying to buddy up the real cop. I don't think Cav's flip has any relation to whether Banks is mafia or not, but I do think that Banks is scummy for believing in the cop claim wholly on day 2. ExO Same goes for ExO. For some reason, he believes that Cav is the cop almost whole-heartedly. The reason I'm at the opposition of ExO / TP is partially because I'm seeing two camps. Me / Robik / Vivax + others who are really speculative on the issue of cav being cop, and ExO / TP who seem to accept it quickly. The issue of whether Cav is actually the cop or not is irrelevant, the issue arises when people are reacting differently to the claim. Most of us appear speculative of the issue, but these two seem to believe it for... what reason I can't tell. Mafia, regardless of Cav's actual alignment, have everything to gain by 'trusting' Cav. If he flips town, they were correct and look better. If he is mafia, then they are protecting their buddy. In addition, ExO has been exhibiting mafia characteristics all game, and the resistance to his lynch yesterday sucked eggs. His reads are really flipped from mine, and that difference in opinion alone probably means he is not the same alignment as myself. Kush Almost certainly the vigilante. No reason to not believe him at this point, and he's barely done the scumtell I've been talking about. Btw the scumtell I was looking for in Kush was really thinly-veiled reasons to townread other players. In Order he gave a sequence of posts that were like "x is town" "y is town" "z is fucking town" for no reason, and defended people (like Haru!) that I wanted to lynch. More credibility for calling people town, i guess, but not really done that this game. Cav Massclaim will probably sort this out TBH. If there are 4 total blue claims / flips then lynch Cav. 3 is possible in a 13 player game but meh idk. Unless someone claims cop, then really scrutinize that person because they should have claimed ages ago and might be mafia trying to mislynch the cop. I've been getting the scum feels from Cav almost the entire game. His reads on Vivax and Palmar were plain garbs at the beginning of the game. He has made promises and not followed up on them, seemingly done on purpose. He hasn't done anything since the start of the game to make me believe he isn't mafia, and if he is town, I'm willing to lose the game on a lynch on him. At least I could blame the loss on the grounds of a bad cop. HaruRH The lynch yesterday leaves me worried. I thought most of or all of the scumteam was on him. So I dnu, meta would suggest that he is town. Cav / poof both on him. Cav / poof / exo scumteam? Maybe OO. I haven't done any really hard analysis of Haru, which is terrible of me because he was a main wagon yesterday. My gut says town, scum don't like saying "I don't do reads on D1, fek off son" to a townie. That just creates pressure and puts the spotlight on. There are a few things I don't like about his filter, but for now, don't lynch tomorrow imo. ObviousOne I still don't know what was up with his Koshi read, he never answered me on that. Seems almost as ghost-like as banks. Activity went down the toilet D2, kinda parked his vote on Haru. Had one post I thought looked townie but other than that, I can't really tell. Not having a decent read on him into day 3 sucks. By PoE, if my gut towns are town, then the scumteam lies in 3 of: Cav ExO TP OO Two "ghosts", one genuinely scummy guy, and the scummy cop claim. Not bad if you ask me. We lynch into that tomorrow, imo. Especially if I wind up dead tonight, you listen to this list. You lynch one of those guys. This is where we begin towns comeback, and as mafia are flipped then we re-evaluate our town reads if they don't die at night. Quoted in case I die today, please lynch exo/tp/oo (cav can be last for mass claim perhaps?) | ||
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On July 03 2014 00:55 Rainbows wrote: Haru if you're scum I'm going to be a sad panda. You wont get the chance to be a sad panda then | ||
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On July 03 2014 01:14 Rainbows wrote: Im hitler. HEIL Then according to my level 1000 host wifom you're not dying Unless you lose to france of course | ||
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On July 03 2014 01:46 Rainbows wrote: Haru, you do realize why i asked you specifically about cavs cop claim? i hope its apparent to you. i want to explain my townread on you more, but i literally can't which sucks. Yes its apparent to me, you want me to talk more | ||
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On July 03 2014 09:31 kushm4sta wrote: I think Exo is town. His case looks like genuine newbie confirmation bias, complete with connection theories and wifom. Here's an example but it's all like this. I agree with this. He is using dead townies argument on one side, but reject other dead townies argument. Pure newbie association bias. I'll just have to accept he is town for now. For now, if you don't want to lose, lynch into poofter/oo. Either one of this is fine. Oo just disappeared with poofter. | ||
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On July 03 2014 16:00 ExO_ wrote: You're dodging my question. I'd like you to explain to me what happened from your end of things. If you disagree with any of the statements, tell me which one 1. My arguments was that mderg and cav couldn't both be scum, because of what happened at the end of day 1, with mderg nearly switching his vote to get cav killed. 2. You pushed cav on day 2, heavily implying he's mafia. (not everybody else did this to the degree you did in my opinion. 3. You then pushed mderg. 4. I explained that both mderg and cav couldn't be mafia. We then had an exchange pointing out the explanation for mdergs last second vote switch. So from my point of view, you pushed votes on 2 people, 1 of which you knew had to be confirmed town. How do you explain that? At what point did you stop thinking cav was mafia, and mderg was instead the mafia? ??? I don't understand your questions at all. ONLY at your point of view is there is at least 1 town in between mderg and cav. So who is confirmed town? Nobody is confirmed town here. Cav's claim reeks of 'you still cant kill me dumb town'. I don't think town, or even cop in this case, would think this way? | ||
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On July 03 2014 18:45 ExO_ wrote: How can that bolded an honest opinion? On day 1, mderg switched his vote to cav, just barely after time was called. mderg nearly killed cav on day 1 with his lynch vote, it he had posted seconds earlier it would have killed cav. Both cannot be mafia together, because then a mafia would've passed on the final vote to kill a mafia on day 1. How else can you interpret that? I'm at a complete loss as to how you would not understand this. Since both cannot be mafia, at most one can be mafia. So how can you possibly accuse cav of being mafia, and then vote mderg accusing him of being mafia? this is exactly what vivax did on day 2. Accused cav of mafia, and then voted and accused mderg of mafia, ignore the evidence I presented that proved it was impossible to think both. What about that do you not understand? Please explain to me how you thought both could be mafia, because on day 2 it was obvious that at most only 1 out of those 2 was mafia, if any at all. I think we went through this already. Mderg's final switch to cav could be a well disguised vote that makes him seems like he has the intention to kill cav, but still stays on sinani to defend his scummate. This is entirely possible since mderg was very against lynching cav. In this scenario, both can be scum. It was not impossible to think both are mafia. Like I said, the 'passed on a final vote to kill a scum d1' is unfounded since mderg voted exactly on the deadline - this could easily have been planned. Coupled with his unwillingness to vote for cav but still switched to, or pretended to switch to cav in the end, gives him the illusion of 'voted for sinani but actually is on cav' motive. | ||
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On July 04 2014 05:39 Vivax wrote: Is this all you have to say after your prolonged absence? There are uannswered questions waiting. So I read the thread again. This is bullshit. All our scumreads are claiming blue roles (oo/kush) and as said, kush's vig claim feels bull( he could be scum vigi) and there is definitely a scum between kush oo and cav since no games have 3 blues in a 13 man game. Or all 3 could be scum. Lynching into any of these 3 is fine. If exo is town, he should really smack himself for basically helping scum win the game. | ||
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On July 04 2014 06:04 kushm4sta wrote: haru, which of the three do you think we should lynch? Oo. His claim is so bad. Also, a medic role is a role that's the easiest to claim and you can't prove it. | ||
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Oo's post hahahaha Given that we have 9 people left and 3 scum (presumeably), then oo seemed to have hit the spot But im still not buying the medic claim bullshit. One of you 3 must die, either by lynch or shot by mafia. If vivax is maf ill just cry If kush is skum ill celebrate | ||
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Both their claims felt scummy. You know why. | ||
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On July 05 2014 02:09 Cavalinho wrote: Okay. So what would you define as crazy prs then? Janitors and maybe multi shot vigis Or some stupid role with tons of imba | ||
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I think most of us lost interest lol | ||
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