ExO, you have so much conviction in your reads. You believed that Cav was cop for almost no reason. So did Poofter. I've seen many townies in this game including myself DOUBT that fact on multiple levels. Conviction comes when you are certain of someone's alignment. And town are never certain of anything.

Rainbows

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July 03 2014 00:52 GMT

#1729

On July 03 2014 09:48 kushm4sta wrote:
Rainbows, did you see my problem with exo being scum?
I don't think scumexo would be able to replicate confirmation bias like that. His case reads like a conspiracy theory.

Scum are easily able to replicate this. They just have to tunnel one belief and not think anything else into winning the game.

Rainbows

Germany1217 Posts

July 03 2014 00:54 GMT

#1731

Actually, Kush is probably the only person I can trust right now so I have to take his opinion into consideration

Rainbows

Germany1217 Posts

July 03 2014 00:57 GMT

#1735

The resistance to ExO being lynched makes me worry. Same shit happened yesterday -- no wagon on ExO. wtf

Rainbows

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July 03 2014 00:59 GMT

#1737

saying probably is basically saying you think he is the cop. ofc you don't know 100% unless you're scum, but saying probably means you're heavily leaning that way

Rainbows

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July 03 2014 01:05 GMT

#1744

On July 03 2014 10:01 Tehpoofter wrote:

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But saying it like I'm stating it as fact is misconstruing it. I also was happily believing when Robik claimed during resolution without pause. If I "know" Cav is cop that I don't think would be my reaction. Maybe but I doubt it.

The point is if your argument against me is that I "know" cav is the cop and am stating it as fact you're incorrect. Its what I think. Like I THOUGHT you were town until today and the way you're buddying Vivax at lylo and instantly sheeping Kush is hella scummy.

Rainbows/Vivax/X scum team 2014.

I'm not buddying with Vivax -.- He just isn't someone I want to lynch today because he's been on my townie list since day 1. Like, I don't understand why people want to lynch the most active player.
I don't think you can realize this if you're not town. I've had reason to believe that someone is town. Then someone at mylo is pushing a campaign to lynch them. It feels wrong, like, that guy has a completely different read with the same information that I do.

Rainbows

Germany1217 Posts

July 03 2014 01:07 GMT

#1748

HaruRH I am less sure of as town than Vivax, but my townread on him references stuff that I literally cannot talk about.

Rainbows

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July 03 2014 01:13 GMT

#1753

On July 03 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote:

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When town is constantly mislynching a decent chunk of the time its because the active members are the mafia. Order had HF/Round as active mafia as well as Chrom day 1.

HF didn't do shit the entire game and Chrom stopped being active after day 2. It also had guys like Chairman who I scumread since day 1 but nobody lynched him the entire game even after i died.

You know why? Because scum didn't want to lynch him, there was so much resistance to a CR lynch. And I'm feeling resistance to an ExO lynch. Like, I feel if ExO were town scum would just pile on him but I haven't seen more than 1-2 votes on him ever. So, therefore, I'm going with my original assumption.

Rainbows

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July 03 2014 01:17 GMT

#1757

and 2 pages of no reads and sliding by until last night. As scum he needs to be active now at lylo to misguide townies.

It makes sense in my head, the actions and reactions. Problem is I could be wrong, and that would suck. But I'd rather be wrong than let someone else choose if I'm wrong.

Rainbows

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July 03 2014 01:18 GMT

#1758

On July 03 2014 10:16 kushm4sta wrote:
rainbows, only person resisting the exo lynch is me and vivax and we are town.

You misunderstand. Yesterday there wasn't more than my vote and vivax's vote on him, nobody switched off of Haru / Mderg. It feels like haru and mderg were the two town wagons and vivax/me had something but no scum wanted to touch their scumbuddy.

People don't have to be actively saying 'no, don't lynch him' for it to be resisted.

Rainbows

Germany1217 Posts

July 03 2014 01:20 GMT

#1759

Ugh I have to consider if Haru is scum. fml.

Rainbows

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July 03 2014 01:23 GMT

#1762

I could actually see ExO being mafia with HaruRH. Because he is saying "vivax / haru / rainbows scumteam confirmed 100%" but heavily prefers Vivax over Haru. such bus much wifom wow

Rainbows

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July 03 2014 01:27 GMT

#1765

On July 03 2014 10:25 ExO_ wrote:

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You're hoping to paint me as some kind of mafia for defending mderg, because I obviously knew he was town right?

Where do I say you are defending Mderg and that makes you mafia? Go.

Rainbows

Germany1217 Posts

July 03 2014 01:30 GMT

#1767

There is literally no reason to believe I'm scum beside wild association cases that can't exist because I'm town.

Lynch into ExO / Poofter / OO and then win the game. Please.

Rainbows

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July 03 2014 15:49 GMT

#1881

The correct play here is to lynch Poofter. 3 blue claims, 2-3 standard for 13 player game. Vivax looks town. Haru less town but still town. ExO either terrible town or scum, probably scum by PoE. Who is left? Poofter.

So unless ExO and company is still going with Haru lynch we lynch poofter.

Rainbows

Germany1217 Posts

July 03 2014 19:16 GMT

#1907

im fine with lynching cava he is on the list. Poof i just cant come up with any scumteam that doesnt involve him rn

Rainbows

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July 03 2014 19:20 GMT

#1908

if vivax is town like i think then its 3 out of haru/cav/poof/exo. Hmm. game might be easier than i thought

Rainbows

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July 03 2014 22:20 GMT

#1922

OO's claim could also be fake. FML blues with no saves or checks. everyone is scum

Rainbows

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July 03 2014 22:31 GMT

#1926

On July 04 2014 07:26 Tehpoofter wrote:

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Why are you town over Haru/Vivax??? Where do you think you want to lynch today?

My night post list looks good. cav/exo/poof/oo.

Rainbows

Germany1217 Posts

July 03 2014 22:43 GMT

#1928

Confidence and conviction isn't always town. It's hard to say, its a gut read.

Think about it. Im town, if exo is town he possesses the same info as me. He draws completrly different conclusions. Something is wrong, because occams razor suggests that either he has different info orbdifferent goals.

This is why its hard to play town. because you cant always tell ifbsomeone genuinely thought of somethijg differently or they are scum.