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Rainbows
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IAmRobik
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ExO_
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Cavalinho
United States946 Posts
On July 01 2014 01:09 IAmRobik wrote: Yeah, I don't know. I don't agree with him. I don't know the exact timeline of events (i didn't realize day was coming to a close so soon), but people were turning on cav, and if cav is cop and he feels his lynch is a certainty, then obviously he should claim to save town the mislynch. I just feel like he did what I (and other people) often do in video mafia AS MAFIA, where they will soft a role before actually coming out with it. From his previous games, he never did anything of this sort, so the fact that he softed first makes me feel sketchier about the claim. As for how it relates to banks, I don't know. I have not, nor am I willing to yet, formulate an opinion of banks. Provide quotes and scholarly sources. | ||
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Cavalinho
United States946 Posts
On July 01 2014 00:57 Vivax wrote: I've seen it too often. Lazy D1 scum, posts huge post to calm the waters, when it doesn't work he fakeclaims. OO, up until now I've taken your advice on whether or not Vivax was actually a good analyst. His day 1 was pretty good, but his day 2 filter thus far has been nothing more than mediocre. If all he can do is attempt to characterize my play, despite playing with me several times and knowing that this has happened before, then color me unimpressed. | ||
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Cavalinho
United States946 Posts
*A read where I'm the cop or mafia, which doesn't say anything. *A read where you think I'm actually real. *Your very next post, which includes me in your list of mafia suspects, despite saying you thought I was real not even a post ago. Give me a read, and be straight with me. I want to know what you think. | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
Looking at the end, mderg tried to switch but his vote didn't go through. If he's mafia, I don't think he tries that. I mean why? What's the incentive?* This makes me think he isn't mafia. And if Cava is mafia, the mafia team sure was willing to let him die day 1. He came extremely close. This makes me think, that Cava isn't mafia either. Ruling out these 2, myself, and the people that have already died leaves me with this list, of which I believe the 3 mafia names are contained 1) ObviousOne 4) kushm4sta 5) Tehpoofter 9) Rainbows 11) Vivax 12) IAmRobik 13) HaruRH *(in the course of investigating this list, I realized an incentive: mderg could be switching as mafia to try to kill the claimed cop, though I think it's highly unlikely.) So after going through these filters the 2 most likely Candidates for mafia in my opinion are Vivax and HaruRH. Starting with HaruRH, he really pushes the idea of killing off Cav day 2 if he doesn't die Night 1. He's also actively trying to link cav and mderg, or at least repeatedly claiming both as mafia. This isn't a solid idea in my opinion. If Cav is mafia, why does mderg switch to him at the last second? mderg could be mafia, but the way he switched votes at the last second to cav doesn't seem to me like a mafia trying to get the cop lynched. HaruRH I think wants cav lynch on day 2, have him flip town, and then wants to lynch mderg day 3 because he knows 1 of those 2 is scum. The case on HaruRH is decent, but I think there is a possibility he's a severely misguided town. A very slim possibility and I really think it's much more likely he's mafia. But I have almost no doubt in my mind that Vivax is scum. Let's start with: + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2014 05:22 Vivax wrote: Just fyi, Palmar tells his dying scumbuddies to fakeclaim before they die so theý fish a blue coutnerclaiming with their death. If you're cop don't counterclaim, keep a mental note that cav is scum, get your check off and then see if you can claim the next day. If my theory is correct, Vivax knows that cav isn't scum. He probably believes Cav's cop claim. But for public purposes, he has to appear as though he doesn't believe cavs cop claim. So he says the aforementioned. Also he's planting seeds to kill Palmar, but palmar died (likely died to town vigilante). We know palmar flipped town. I don't think Vivax was counting on this, but it does make what he said here look odd. If you read his filter he is trying hard to set up for Palmer. + Show Spoiler + On June 28 2014 17:30 Vivax wrote: I think kush and sinani are town, cause their reactions were similar to mine and cause kush is giving me some town feelz with more recent posts. I don't see anything wrong with sinani backpedaling from his vote cause I would have done the same. . Mafia calling town as town. + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2014 00:56 Vivax wrote: Is there any poor soul in here that still thinks Cava is a cop? Where have his N1 posts been when he should have been afraid of being NKed, leading to him posting about stuff that would be important before his eventual death? Because I believe cav isn't mafia, this looks to me like mafia afraid cav would be mediced on N1, and is setting up for a D2 lynch on cav (who is the cop). So those are my thoughts. I think HaruRH and Vivax are scum based on the day 1 voting, and what's been said. Everybody else is either a town read or a null read for me. I'm not sure who the 3rd mafia might be. ##Lynch Vivax | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
the 1st paragraph of my above post was from when I first started analysis, and thus doesn't indicate that mafia did indeed have an incentive to potentially kill cav (claimed cop) over sinani. But I think the incentive is minor enough that mafia is okay with either one (meaning a mafia wasn't up for voting on D1) | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On July 01 2014 12:52 Cavalinho wrote: OO, up until now I've taken your advice on whether or not Vivax was actually a good analyst. His day 1 was pretty good, but his day 2 filter thus far has been nothing more than mediocre. If all he can do is attempt to characterize my play, despite playing with me several times and knowing that this has happened before, then color me unimpressed. Yeah I'm disappointed he's not carrying me right now =\ Do you think I should put HaruRH in my town category? | ||
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Cavalinho
United States946 Posts
1) Why do you keep thinking I'm scum? 2) Why do you keep characterizing my play? 3) Why is it that you have reasons not to vote me in your filter, in yet you vote me anyway? | ||
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Cavalinho
United States946 Posts
On July 01 2014 13:05 ObviousOne wrote: Yeah I'm disappointed he's not carrying me right now =\ Do you think I should put HaruRH in my town category? I'm trying to give myself some fresh perspective on the game thus far. I've already tried to lay out my plan for today and I don't think Haru is really someone I'm considering because of it. It's a dodgy, roundabout way of townreading him, but I really don't know. I'll probably get back to you at some point. When's the next time you'll be on? | ||
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Cavalinho
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Cavalinho
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On July 01 2014 13:20 Cavalinho wrote: Also I'm baffled as to why Rainbows still wants to lynch me. -.-; Extreme paranoia or malicious intent? I'll take a look at what he's saying about you after this episode of Dexter. It would be a smart move as mafia to latch on to lynching a potentially dubious cop claim. Town and I [I "let" them convince me to vote him hehehe] did that in Smurf Mini to the claimed doctor who didn't have time to defend himself. You have a couple things going for you which makes it easy to not be a go-to lynch: 1) no counter-claim 2) no overabundance of power roles which would be evident later in the game making you a better suspect then rather than now 3) RB tells us what the mafia team probably looks like Goon/Goon/RB or Goon/RB/GF UNLESS it was a Jailkeeper | ||
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Cavalinho
United States946 Posts
Like he's not even trying to justify his vote and I don't see any reason to believe he's town because of it. I will absolutely lynch Haru if Vivax gives me some decent answers. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
Next target? | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
Rainbows is down with an ExO_ lynch, ExO_ is on my POE list as a potential today as well. I'm sure he's just talking about you and Vivax more because there's more there to discuss and not necessarily that he's stuck in a tunnel, right Rainbros? | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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ObviousOne
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On July 01 2014 14:13 ObviousOne wrote: Both Robik and poofter were supposed to find people who called them town scummy based on their D1 play, correct? Did you guys get anywhere with that or is this just an excuse to be different? I got a scummy towny lynched from it. Does that count? | ||
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