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On July 03 2014 06:54 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 06:51 Cavalinho wrote:On July 03 2014 06:50 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 06:47 Cavalinho wrote:
Are you even trying to hide the pretense that you're looking for almost any reason to try to lynch me at this point? Have you played with the thought that mafia is more likely to believe your claim, as 2 dead townies who didn't are the sample size for that reaction? If you believe rainbows is town you can add another one on top. Huh? Both Koshi and Robik were reluctant to accept your claim, both are now confirmed town. Rainbows looks townie (do you disagree on this?), and I am town. If you are indeed a town cop, don't you find it odd that there were people willing to accept it at face value rather early despite your so far scummy play?
Robik wasn't just reluctant he straight up said "Cav isn't the cop" he went so far as to CC him as cop during the resolution period.
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On July 03 2014 07:00 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 06:57 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 06:54 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 06:51 Cavalinho wrote:On July 03 2014 06:50 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 06:47 Cavalinho wrote:
Are you even trying to hide the pretense that you're looking for almost any reason to try to lynch me at this point? Have you played with the thought that mafia is more likely to believe your claim, as 2 dead townies who didn't are the sample size for that reaction? If you believe rainbows is town you can add another one on top. Huh? Both Koshi and Robik were reluctant to accept your claim, both are now confirmed town. Rainbows looks townie (do you disagree on this?), and I am town. If you are indeed a town cop, don't you find it odd that there were people willing to accept it at face value rather early despite your so far scummy play? Robik wasn't just reluctant he straight up said "Cav isn't the cop" he went so far as to CC him as cop during the resolution period. That was reaction fishing, which is obvious in retrospect. It's funny you believed it though cause he called the second check even before the night ended so he couldn't have it. At the time I was thinking to myself that it could be a reaction coming from you knowing that Cav is mafia, and overshooting before even thinking about whether it was true. Maybe that version of events is true, which is why now I'm talking to Cav to see if he is willing to ignore the evidence that townies so far seemed to doubt his claim more than some other individuals.
If I knew Cav was mafia and Robik said I was town I would know robik is fake.
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On July 03 2014 07:05 ExO_ wrote:
vivax is going to try his best to instill doubt. Do not let him. If you are town vote HarURH (since we seem to be leaning harurh over vivax).
I'm on the vivax train of justice. Hop on.
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On July 03 2014 07:10 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 07:06 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 07:05 ExO_ wrote:
vivax is going to try his best to instill doubt. Do not let him. If you are town vote HarURH (since we seem to be leaning harurh over vivax). I'm on the vivax train of justice. Hop on. Get on Harurh for now. If we can all agree to go vivax we can switch, but for now we should sit in the same guy.
I Think Haru is town though. I can consolidate later but I find it odd you don't think vivax is gaining steam.
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On July 03 2014 07:15 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 07:05 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 07:00 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 06:57 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 06:54 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 06:51 Cavalinho wrote:On July 03 2014 06:50 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 06:47 Cavalinho wrote:
Are you even trying to hide the pretense that you're looking for almost any reason to try to lynch me at this point? Have you played with the thought that mafia is more likely to believe your claim, as 2 dead townies who didn't are the sample size for that reaction? If you believe rainbows is town you can add another one on top. Huh? Both Koshi and Robik were reluctant to accept your claim, both are now confirmed town. Rainbows looks townie (do you disagree on this?), and I am town. If you are indeed a town cop, don't you find it odd that there were people willing to accept it at face value rather early despite your so far scummy play? Robik wasn't just reluctant he straight up said "Cav isn't the cop" he went so far as to CC him as cop during the resolution period. That was reaction fishing, which is obvious in retrospect. It's funny you believed it though cause he called the second check even before the night ended so he couldn't have it. At the time I was thinking to myself that it could be a reaction coming from you knowing that Cav is mafia, and overshooting before even thinking about whether it was true. Maybe that version of events is true, which is why now I'm talking to Cav to see if he is willing to ignore the evidence that townies so far seemed to doubt his claim more than some other individuals. If I knew Cav was mafia and Robik said I was town I would know robik is fake. In fact there are so many possible variations of your reaction to what Robik did that I prefer to not touch that argument any further.
I agree it makes me look too town for your push on me at any point to work.
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On July 03 2014 07:20 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 07:18 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 07:15 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 07:05 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 07:00 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 06:57 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 06:54 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 06:51 Cavalinho wrote:On July 03 2014 06:50 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 06:47 Cavalinho wrote:
Are you even trying to hide the pretense that you're looking for almost any reason to try to lynch me at this point? Have you played with the thought that mafia is more likely to believe your claim, as 2 dead townies who didn't are the sample size for that reaction? If you believe rainbows is town you can add another one on top. Huh? Both Koshi and Robik were reluctant to accept your claim, both are now confirmed town. Rainbows looks townie (do you disagree on this?), and I am town. If you are indeed a town cop, don't you find it odd that there were people willing to accept it at face value rather early despite your so far scummy play? Robik wasn't just reluctant he straight up said "Cav isn't the cop" he went so far as to CC him as cop during the resolution period. That was reaction fishing, which is obvious in retrospect. It's funny you believed it though cause he called the second check even before the night ended so he couldn't have it. At the time I was thinking to myself that it could be a reaction coming from you knowing that Cav is mafia, and overshooting before even thinking about whether it was true. Maybe that version of events is true, which is why now I'm talking to Cav to see if he is willing to ignore the evidence that townies so far seemed to doubt his claim more than some other individuals. If I knew Cav was mafia and Robik said I was town I would know robik is fake. In fact there are so many possible variations of your reaction to what Robik did that I prefer to not touch that argument any further. I agree it makes me look too town for your push on me at any point to work. If you think it makes you look town then your mafia you would also think that it would make you look town. use more wifom plz
Sure thing I wouldn't kill robik cause he didn't want to lynch me and was literally never a role. Also you brought it up 
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On July 03 2014 07:26 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 07:25 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 07:20 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 07:18 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 07:15 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 07:05 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 07:00 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 06:57 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 06:54 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 06:51 Cavalinho wrote:
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Huh? Both Koshi and Robik were reluctant to accept your claim, both are now confirmed town. Rainbows looks townie (do you disagree on this?), and I am town. If you are indeed a town cop, don't you find it odd that there were people willing to accept it at face value rather early despite your so far scummy play? Robik wasn't just reluctant he straight up said "Cav isn't the cop" he went so far as to CC him as cop during the resolution period. That was reaction fishing, which is obvious in retrospect. It's funny you believed it though cause he called the second check even before the night ended so he couldn't have it. At the time I was thinking to myself that it could be a reaction coming from you knowing that Cav is mafia, and overshooting before even thinking about whether it was true. Maybe that version of events is true, which is why now I'm talking to Cav to see if he is willing to ignore the evidence that townies so far seemed to doubt his claim more than some other individuals. If I knew Cav was mafia and Robik said I was town I would know robik is fake. In fact there are so many possible variations of your reaction to what Robik did that I prefer to not touch that argument any further. I agree it makes me look too town for your push on me at any point to work. If you think it makes you look town then your mafia you would also think that it would make you look town. use more wifom plz Sure thing I wouldn't kill robik cause he didn't want to lynch me and was literally never a role. Also you brought it up Implying you are the only guy who decides the kills on your hypothetical mafia team? Why would I kill Robik then?
Good point Just doing WiFOM stuff for you.
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On July 03 2014 09:06 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 09:06 ExO_ wrote:
Oh man we gotta wait 2 days? any chance we could get 24 hours days now instead of 48? why exo... are you crazy?? we lynch scum or lose. we sooo need 2 days.
This decision is not going to be rushed at all.
Kush you really think vivax is town? Have you made a post explaining why? Like he is my most scummy.
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On July 03 2014 09:32 kushm4sta wrote:
exo did you claim yet?
Yes I think the only ones that haven't claimed are Rainbows and OO. Everyone else has claimed VT and a country (Rainbows said Germany and OO Nederlands)
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On July 03 2014 09:35 kushm4sta wrote:
so poofter, your most scummy is the person with the most and deepest analysis?
The way he has interacted with Cav and his claim makes me think that he has not had a logical townie train of thought. He has been trying to use the night kills to prove his townieness. He had that post where he said his and Koshi's reads align but he was likely to be medic saved so thats why he lived. Then he used robik's death to make himself look good and me and EXO look worse. I had a fun exchange with him about WIFOM earlier and he was quick to dismiss it despite him bringing it up on himself on multiple occasions. I think he is capable of his analysis and as either alignment.
I think your list sucks btw kush. I know I'm not mafia and I think Vivax is mafia with someone like Exo/Haru/Rainbows
I am not sure where to go after him ExO I can see the n00bish townie thing and the fact vivax is trying to discredit both of us then throws his vote on OO was weird maybe some light busing and he just "changes his mind" by EoD.
I know this though if town doesn't vote together we are at a huge disadvantage. So I will be consolidating I just hope its a consolidation on vivax.
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On July 03 2014 09:51 Rainbows wrote:
ExO, you have so much conviction in your reads. You believed that Cav was cop for almost no reason. So did Poofter. I've seen many townies in this game including myself DOUBT that fact on multiple levels. Conviction comes when you are certain of someone's alignment. And town are never certain of anything.
This is a misnomer btw. I said I was in the camp that I thought Cav was town but not that I was certain Cav even asked me a question about where I stood after I gave some reads awhile back.
+ Show Spoiler +On July 01 2014 12:58 Cavalinho wrote:
Poofter, do you actually have a decent read on me anywhere? I looked through your last three posts on me, and I see:
*A read where I'm the cop or mafia, which doesn't say anything.
*A read where you think I'm actually real.
*Your very next post, which includes me in your list of mafia suspects, despite saying you thought I was real not even a post ago.
Give me a read, and be straight with me. I want to know what you think.
You're the second one along with ScumVivax who has tried to say I've been permanently thinking that Cav was town cop when in reality I've said he is probably the cop.
Maybe your list isn't shit Kush. Vivax/Rainbows/Haru?
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On July 03 2014 09:59 Rainbows wrote:
saying probably is basically saying you think he is the cop. ofc you don't know 100% unless you're scum, but saying probably means you're heavily leaning that way
But saying it like I'm stating it as fact is misconstruing it. I also was happily believing when Robik claimed during resolution without pause. If I "know" Cav is cop that I don't think would be my reaction. Maybe but I doubt it.
The point is if your argument against me is that I "know" cav is the cop and am stating it as fact you're incorrect. Its what I think. Like I THOUGHT you were town until today and the way you're buddying Vivax at lylo and instantly sheeping Kush is hella scummy.
Rainbows/Vivax/X scum team 2014.
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On July 03 2014 09:59 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 09:51 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 09:35 kushm4sta wrote:
so poofter, your most scummy is the person with the most and deepest analysis? The way he has interacted with Cav and his claim makes me think that he has not had a logical townie train of thought. This is bullshit and I explained why I found Cava scummy a multitude of times, starting from his post timings to him saying scum was on his wagon but not displaying that in his actions afterwards. If you want to figure me out then confront me with that instead of spouting shitty generalized nonsense.
If you thought that X was Y alignment because of Z and I thought that train of thought was shitty I would say that I didn't think it was coming from a townie perspective. It is a generalization but its how I feel. Basically from what Cav was saying and how he was acting he didn't seem like scum who was forced to fake claim but town who AGAIN had to claim as cop day 1 this time he barely didn't get lynched.
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On July 03 2014 10:05 Vivax wrote:
Both NKd townies had Cav as scumread.so far.
Make of it what you will.
I think this game it would be a mistake to assume that town must have a cop.
I have yet to play a game on this forums where there wasn't a cop in the game that I can recall. Especially with 13 players.
My point is that if someone else brought up "hey vivax has these reads they were the same as dead town maybe he is a good guy" vs "HEY GUYS LOOK I HAVE THE SAME READS AS THE DEAD CONFIRM ME PLEASE"
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On July 03 2014 10:05 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 10:01 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 09:59 Rainbows wrote:
saying probably is basically saying you think he is the cop. ofc you don't know 100% unless you're scum, but saying probably means you're heavily leaning that way But saying it like I'm stating it as fact is misconstruing it. I also was happily believing when Robik claimed during resolution without pause. If I "know" Cav is cop that I don't think would be my reaction. Maybe but I doubt it. The point is if your argument against me is that I "know" cav is the cop and am stating it as fact you're incorrect. Its what I think. Like I THOUGHT you were town until today and the way you're buddying Vivax at lylo and instantly sheeping Kush is hella scummy. Rainbows/Vivax/X scum team 2014. I'm not buddying with Vivax -.- He just isn't someone I want to lynch today because he's been on my townie list since day 1. Like, I don't understand why people want to lynch the most active player. I don't think you can realize this if you're not town. I've had reason to believe that someone is town. Then someone at mylo is pushing a campaign to lynch them. It feels wrong, like, that guy has a completely different read with the same information that I do.
When town is constantly mislynching a decent chunk of the time its because the active members are the mafia. Order had HF/Round as active mafia as well as Chrom day 1.
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On July 03 2014 10:09 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 10:06 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 09:59 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 09:51 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 09:35 kushm4sta wrote:
so poofter, your most scummy is the person with the most and deepest analysis? The way he has interacted with Cav and his claim makes me think that he has not had a logical townie train of thought. This is bullshit and I explained why I found Cava scummy a multitude of times, starting from his post timings to him saying scum was on his wagon but not displaying that in his actions afterwards. If you want to figure me out then confront me with that instead of spouting shitty generalized nonsense. If you thought that X was Y alignment because of Z and I thought that train of thought was shitty I would say that I didn't think it was coming from a townie perspective. It is a generalization but its how I feel. Basically from what Cav was saying and how he was acting he didn't seem like scum who was forced to fake claim but town who AGAIN had to claim as cop day 1 this time he barely didn't get lynched. Except that you don't explain how exactly it's shitty, and 2 NKd townies so far felt the same about Cav. You must obviously be the pro and mafia kills all the baddies first. Go ahead and explain what happened to Cav's scumread of OO after he said he must've been on his wagon and called him rainbows scumbuddy. You lack either reading comprehension or aren't trying to figure out the stuff I wrote in my post.
I don't say because in my head if you don't think the same as me its not townie. I know one person's alignment... mine and I know how I think and I think he is likely town if you think differently to me I think thats weird. I can be wrong and will be wrong have already on mderg. I haven't liked you since day 1. Kush apparently thinks you're town so I probably just lose to you if you're mafia at this point because all town needs to vote together.
I read just fine thanks. As for Cav's scumread can you link the post I don't recall that part.
I think you're scummy and we probably just lose because you've been active I can only hope we hit one of your partners.
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On July 03 2014 10:13 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 10:05 Rainbows wrote:On July 03 2014 10:01 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 03 2014 09:59 Rainbows wrote:
saying probably is basically saying you think he is the cop. ofc you don't know 100% unless you're scum, but saying probably means you're heavily leaning that way But saying it like I'm stating it as fact is misconstruing it. I also was happily believing when Robik claimed during resolution without pause. If I "know" Cav is cop that I don't think would be my reaction. Maybe but I doubt it. The point is if your argument against me is that I "know" cav is the cop and am stating it as fact you're incorrect. Its what I think. Like I THOUGHT you were town until today and the way you're buddying Vivax at lylo and instantly sheeping Kush is hella scummy. Rainbows/Vivax/X scum team 2014. I'm not buddying with Vivax -.- He just isn't someone I want to lynch today because he's been on my townie list since day 1. Like, I don't understand why people want to lynch the most active player. I don't think you can realize this if you're not town. I've had reason to believe that someone is town. Then someone at mylo is pushing a campaign to lynch them. It feels wrong, like, that guy has a completely different read with the same information that I do. When town is constantly mislynching a decent chunk of the time its because the active members are the mafia. Order had HF/Round as active mafia as well as Chrom day 1. HF didn't do shit the entire game and Chrom stopped being active after day 2. It also had guys like Chairman who I scumread since day 1 but nobody lynched him the entire game even after i died. You know why? Because scum didn't want to lynch him, there was so much resistance to a CR lynch. And I'm feeling resistance to an ExO lynch. Like, I feel if ExO were town scum would just pile on him but I haven't seen more than 1-2 votes on him ever. So, therefore, I'm going with my original assumption.
The main resistance is Me and Kush though and I know I'm town and I think he is vigi.
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On July 03 2014 10:16 kushm4sta wrote:
rainbows, only person resisting the exo lynch is me and tehpoofter and we are town.
Fixed that for you kush.
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On July 03 2014 10:28 kushm4sta wrote:
poofter/oo/rainbows
gaem is hard
On July 03 2014 10:30 Rainbows wrote:
There is literally no reason to believe I'm scum beside wild association cases that can't exist because I'm town.
Lynch into ExO / Poofter / OO and then win the game. Please.
The bus is so real! Pull off a bit Rainbows too obvious.
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Where is like Haru/OO/Cav??? We just the town cutting each others legs off while scum afk? (lawls I've been afk like half the game)
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