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Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
June 30 2014 00:26 GMT
#1140
On June 30 2014 09:21 ExO_ wrote:
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On June 30 2014 09:20 Rainbows wrote:
ExO, what I'm trying to say is: Why would you even say "just lynch me I'm VT" as town. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME


S A R C A S M

sometimes you gotta think about it to understand it


Love when someone does something scummy and just says it was sarcasm, trolling, whatever. WOULD PEOPLE PLAY THE GAME INSTEAD
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
June 30 2014 00:27 GMT
#1141
On June 30 2014 09:22 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 09:15 Rainbows wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:13 Cavalinho wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:03 Rainbows wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:01 Rainbows wrote:
On June 30 2014 08:59 Cavalinho wrote:
On June 30 2014 08:53 ExO_ wrote:
Forget Cavalinho, Robik is all over the place. Silly fake claims, says palmar is town and he shot him. Just generally trying to look like somebody fucking around. Only I think that's exactly it. He's trying to look like he's a townie messing around. He's scum in town's clothing...or more like scum dressed like a town trying to dress like fake scum.

Whatever it is, he's cross dressing up a storm.

##Lynch Robik


Possibly. His play isn't entirely congruent, so there could be something here.

We aren't lynching Robik today though. The people on the sinani wagon should be like confirmed town to you right now. Focus on the people on my wagon.


Why?


kushm4sta, ObviousOne, HaruRH, Vivax

This is a fucking retarded list to lynch into. Everyone I didn't list is either confirmed town or myself. And kush is probably the vigi.

Nope.


lol.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Haru wasn't on my lynch because he was actually paying attention and being rational.

If kush is actually the vig then holy shit what is he doing.

That leaves Vivax, OO, and...you. So let's start:

Why did you vote me?


Oh, I accidently put haru on the list. I voted you because both you and Sinani were scummy as hell, and I didn't care which I lynched because day 1. Scummy fucks are scummy. Then you cop claimed near the EoD. Didn't smell correct. It was a smelly smell that smelled, SMELLY.

Your reads on palmar and vivax made no sense when you originally wanted to lynch between them on day 1. So tell me, why shouldn't I have voted you?


See, this is the issue I have. What's wrong with my cop claim? Am I supposed to retroactively go back and make it better somehow? I gave you my role pm, this should be a non-issue for you.

And I said I liked their filters. Twice. I even went back and clarified it. Base your reads on things that are actually happening, thanks.


Give me one reason to lynch Vivax over you. One. Reason.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
June 30 2014 00:31 GMT
#1143
On June 30 2014 09:28 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 09:26 Rainbows wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:21 ExO_ wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:20 Rainbows wrote:
ExO, what I'm trying to say is: Why would you even say "just lynch me I'm VT" as town. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME


S A R C A S M

sometimes you gotta think about it to understand it


Love when someone does something scummy and just says it was sarcasm, trolling, whatever. WOULD PEOPLE PLAY THE GAME INSTEAD


Unless you think I'm mafia, you're nitpicking non-stop about the silly things. So far your case against me is based on almost nothing. So you wanna talk about playing the game? Perhaps you should start with yourself, and stop worrying about every little thing I say.


The only thing you've posted up to D2 was a vote on Sinani and a martyr post that was terrible. Most everything else was unsubstantial. How else am I supposed to judge you? Every 'little thing' is a big thing because there's nothing else to judge you on.

This is why I called you a COINFLIP. Because there's so little to go on. I've been trying to prod you, to post actual reads and stuff. So do so. Robik read is a start.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
June 30 2014 00:32 GMT
#1144
You're getting too defensive about a post where I said 1-2 things I didn't like and called you a coinflip.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
June 30 2014 00:34 GMT
#1145
+ Show Spoiler +


Start until 1 minute is playing mafia sometimes.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
June 30 2014 00:52 GMT
#1148
On June 28 2014 03:43 mderg wrote:
Did anyone really think Robik actually scumslipped? The supposed slips were so obvious (how they were in brackets and such). It makes one wonder why sinani and Rainbow disappeared after that.

So Robik is probably town. Like no sane scum would do that.



On June 28 2014 03:52 mderg wrote:
I don´t think any town would have put a serious vote on you and he seemed to be serious and even disappeared after that. That looks really scummy.


On June 28 2014 19:44 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 19:31 Vivax wrote:
On June 28 2014 19:25 mderg wrote:
On June 28 2014 19:17 Vivax wrote:
Mderg I'm curious though why you didn't talk about Koshi or Cava yet. Sure, Exo shines by inactivity on top of his reaction but even then it would be just 1 of 3 scum if we're right. Don't you have a read on those two already?

I have a hard time reading koshi. His reaction to Palmar´s case on you is strange but I don´t get the scummy vibes from him. I also don´t think his non reaction to Robik´s supposed scumslip is scummy. So I don´t really know what to think of him.

Cav is a bit suspicious for 2 things, wanting to lynch between you and Palmar and not explaining his Robik vote/not unvoting immediately. Both are kinda suspicious but I could imagine him doing that as town, so I don´t think he should be lynched day 1.


So now that you changed your mind about sinani which two people would you lynch aside from Exo if you had the choice.

I´ve always hated this question

Probably Cav but I wouldn´t want him lynched today.
Maybe haru because his play seems different from the only? game I´ve played with him. In Detention mafia his posts seemed more analytical. It would be more of a shot in the dark, though.

I also don´t like Robik that much anymore since he made this trap which is actually more likely to make townies look bad than scum.


Mderg, can you explain the line of thinking? You go from "Robik = town because fakeslip" and "No town would put a serious vote on Robik, that's scummy"

to

"Robik = scum because fakeslip" and "townies would totally put a serious vote on Robik"

If robiks trap is more likely to make townies look bad, then the voters on him are town putting down the serious vote. What changed your opinion?
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
June 30 2014 00:54 GMT
#1149
On June 30 2014 09:51 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 09:27 Rainbows wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:22 Cavalinho wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:15 Rainbows wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:13 Cavalinho wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:03 Rainbows wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:01 Rainbows wrote:
On June 30 2014 08:59 Cavalinho wrote:
On June 30 2014 08:53 ExO_ wrote:
Forget Cavalinho, Robik is all over the place. Silly fake claims, says palmar is town and he shot him. Just generally trying to look like somebody fucking around. Only I think that's exactly it. He's trying to look like he's a townie messing around. He's scum in town's clothing...or more like scum dressed like a town trying to dress like fake scum.

Whatever it is, he's cross dressing up a storm.

##Lynch Robik


Possibly. His play isn't entirely congruent, so there could be something here.

We aren't lynching Robik today though. The people on the sinani wagon should be like confirmed town to you right now. Focus on the people on my wagon.


Why?


kushm4sta, ObviousOne, HaruRH, Vivax

This is a fucking retarded list to lynch into. Everyone I didn't list is either confirmed town or myself. And kush is probably the vigi.

Nope.


lol.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Haru wasn't on my lynch because he was actually paying attention and being rational.

If kush is actually the vig then holy shit what is he doing.

That leaves Vivax, OO, and...you. So let's start:

Why did you vote me?


Oh, I accidently put haru on the list. I voted you because both you and Sinani were scummy as hell, and I didn't care which I lynched because day 1. Scummy fucks are scummy. Then you cop claimed near the EoD. Didn't smell correct. It was a smelly smell that smelled, SMELLY.

Your reads on palmar and vivax made no sense when you originally wanted to lynch between them on day 1. So tell me, why shouldn't I have voted you?


See, this is the issue I have. What's wrong with my cop claim? Am I supposed to retroactively go back and make it better somehow? I gave you my role pm, this should be a non-issue for you.

And I said I liked their filters. Twice. I even went back and clarified it. Base your reads on things that are actually happening, thanks.


Give me one reason to lynch Vivax over you. One. Reason.


Why is it that you think I want Vivax specifically? I've been saying almost all game that I thought he was towny.

Why is there no mention of OO in this post? Are you trying to protect your scumbuddy?


On June 30 2014 08:45 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 08:36 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 30 2014 08:29 Cavalinho wrote:
On June 30 2014 08:13 IAmRobik wrote:
cava isn't cop btw.

but we can leave him alive for a bit longer


Look, the people doubting me here need to fucking stop. I just had my role outed and was nearly lynched for the third time in a row. I just lost all of my checks and I'm a likely mislynch at some point because I had a shitty day 1. I can take responsibility for playing as badly as I did, but I've played my hand and the fact that people can doubt me at this point is ridiculous. I am the cop, and I'm uncc'd. The reason for that is, shockingly, because I am actually the cop.

Also, since I'm making a giant post, I might as well map out what we're doing today:

We're not lynching anyone on sinani.
We find the scum hiding on my bandwagon from yesterday.
We lynch them.

My wagon yesterday was so obviously scum-driven that it pains me to listen to people make me out as mafia. Everytime I disappeared, people just went nuts and I couldn't deal with the fallout. I'd like someone to sit down and give me one, one good reason as to why we shouldn't believe me.

I'm going to have a bunch of questions ready for people to answer as soon as I can, but I'm not leaving until we squash this shit right here and now.


Why do you think no scum were on the lynch of the town? Wouldn't scum be more likely to believe your claim and push for someone else so they look super smart when/if you flip cop?


That was a TvT cross. Scum could do whatever the fuck it wanted because they had nothing at stake. If/when I flip cop, nobody will even care because I played poorly and had everyone jumping on me at once. We can deal with the sinani lynch later, but I want someone on my wagon today.

Also kush better be the fucking vigi. All that stupid wifom stuff he was using to push me was ridiculous. Vivax is scummy too and I'll deal with him when I can.

Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
June 30 2014 01:00 GMT
#1151
On June 30 2014 09:57 Cavalinho wrote:
You're looking into what I'm saying as if there's some sort of hidden code. There isn't one. Saying Vivax is scummy once doesn't mean "he is my preferred lynch for the day and I want him dead asap."

You're nitpicking and it's becoming quite annoying.


How is that nitpicking? You don't even mention lynching OO anywhere. Day 2, you literally mention lynching people on your wagon and namedrop Vivax as scummy. You don't specifically mention that OO is scummy, though.

You promised that you would get to Vivax when you could. You say that we need to lynch someone from your wagon. Convince me to lynch Vivax, convince me to lynch OO. Go ahead and try.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
June 30 2014 01:08 GMT
#1153
On June 30 2014 10:06 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 10:00 Rainbows wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:57 Cavalinho wrote:
You're looking into what I'm saying as if there's some sort of hidden code. There isn't one. Saying Vivax is scummy once doesn't mean "he is my preferred lynch for the day and I want him dead asap."

You're nitpicking and it's becoming quite annoying.


How is that nitpicking? You don't even mention lynching OO anywhere. Day 2, you literally mention lynching people on your wagon and namedrop Vivax as scummy. You don't specifically mention that OO is scummy, though.

You promised that you would get to Vivax when you could. You say that we need to lynch someone from your wagon. Convince me to lynch Vivax, convince me to lynch OO. Go ahead and try.


I have to run and errand, but I'll be back ASAP with my thoughts on those two players.

Also I think it's hilarious that you think that I was omitting OO for any reason. He is on my bandwagon for bad reasons; ergo, he is someone I could stand to lynch today.


You asked why I said Vivax specifically, I answered because you omitted OO and only mentioned Vivax. I'm not insinuating that you omit OO purposefully, just noting that you only said Vivax.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
June 30 2014 01:48 GMT
#1166
Hey ExO, ignore this.

##unvote
##vote: ExO


^^ Gnight
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 01 2014 01:31 GMT
#1276
On July 01 2014 00:57 Vivax wrote:
I've seen it too often.

Lazy D1 scum, posts huge post to calm the waters, when it doesn't work he fakeclaims.


Classic Blazinghand play.

I don't like the wagon on HaruRH. His opinion on the Cav situation seemed genuine, because he realized why I was asking him directly instead of anyone else. As mafia he probably wouldn't come to that realization, and think I was picking on him / thought he was scum so I asked him directly about a difficult matter. I also believe he's stepped up his game from day 1 enough, kind of like Order. In order, he tunneled my ass until the very end. Well, he tried to reconcile, but in the end concluded that "one of me/rainbows is mafia" (I.E. that I was mafia). I think he's doing the same kind of thing with Cav, pretty convicted in his reads, even goes onto quote Koshi's post and claim to brag in the scum QT. I also am wary because Mderg is on the wagon.

I agree that ExO's play is toxic so far. He's gone from saying "it's ok to lynch me", to yelling at me for him not giving reads, to apologizing for his actions. This is indicative of a variable playstyle of mafia; when ExO realizes that bitching at my scumread won't help, he apologizes softly and promises to improve.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 01 2014 01:35 GMT
#1277
On July 01 2014 10:17 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 06:33 mderg wrote:
I meant, where did I lie?

The lie is:
"There are reasons to townread you, but they aren't very strong"
"I never townread Robik"

You don't claim that others are townreading me. You are stating that there ARE REASONS to townread me. But if you're not townreading me then there are neither very strong, nor very weak reason to townread me. There are NO reasons to townread me for.


Robik, I think this "lie" is pretty bad. Screaming LIAR LIAR LIAR is blowing it fairly out of proportion when the lie seems like a stretch.

There can be reasons to townread people ("too scummy to be scum" theory, for example), but you don't believe in that reason yourself particularly (because it is not a very strong read).
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 01 2014 01:39 GMT
#1280
On July 01 2014 10:37 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 10:35 Rainbows wrote:
On July 01 2014 10:17 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 01 2014 06:33 mderg wrote:
I meant, where did I lie?

The lie is:
"There are reasons to townread you, but they aren't very strong"
"I never townread Robik"

You don't claim that others are townreading me. You are stating that there ARE REASONS to townread me. But if you're not townreading me then there are neither very strong, nor very weak reason to townread me. There are NO reasons to townread me for.


Robik, I think this "lie" is pretty bad. Screaming LIAR LIAR LIAR is blowing it fairly out of proportion when the lie seems like a stretch.

There can be reasons to townread people ("too scummy to be scum" theory, for example), but you don't believe in that reason yourself particularly (because it is not a very strong read).

I've used the too scummy to be scum read before. I don't think it pans out as often as one might think.
Screaming liar is my way to get his attention and make him answer for his crimes.
I could just be tunneled on mderg like I was on sinani though, so I'm willing to let other people figure things out for me this game. I'm trying to take a bit of a backseat after I cause a mislynch on d1 because of my stubborness (I won't retract my claim that sinani was scummy as fuck and it's good that he's gone)


You may want to reconsider lynching into ExO. Or maybe Cava for today would be the correct choice, instead of waiting another day or two. Are there any other reasons you'd lynch Mderg besides his lie?
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 01 2014 02:02 GMT
#1281
Ima wait for ExO to give his reads. I think that's fair enough.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 01 2014 18:43 GMT
#1374
I cant find a good reason to not vote ExO. His latest post wants to lynch my townread vivax and hops on the wagon which also has mderg/cav on it.

I know people dont want to lynch ExO because koshi it's pissing me off that I can't lynch who i want t

ExOs play is characterized by lurking early, yelling at me when called out, then apologizing and promising to switch his play up. Then giant post on lynching my townread. We don't seem to be on the same wavelength of thinking and i want to lynch him.

At the very least stop voting Haru and go for Mderg, that lynch is much better.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 01 2014 18:44 GMT
#1375
VIVAX YES
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 01 2014 18:51 GMT
#1377
vivax help me on this ExO wagon. WE CAN DO IT.

The free koshi pass is bullshit. It's amazing not even scum have voted on ExO if he is town. And thr fact that haru is up for lynch before him is astounding to me.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 01 2014 20:47 GMT
#1463
3 scummy dudes on haru? I like this lynch. if he is mafia, the game looks really easy from here.

##unvote
##vote: Mderg
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 01 2014 20:59 GMT
#1496
such resistance. all scum are on haru wagon. ez game
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 01 2014 20:59 GMT
#1498
exo cav mderg
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