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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 07 2014 18:38 GMT
#2514
It just strikes me as idiotic that all the possible scum didn't wanna kill Cav D1.
It's potential wifom too, but I know I wouldn't let such a chance slide as scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 07 2014 18:43 GMT
#2518
I am really really really sorry if you're town Cav, but I dwelled enough over this game and I won't be much wiser in a few hours.

Too much evidence piled up and your check on rainbows would make sense if you're scum, cause it would be an attempt to gain his trust without clearing Exo and Haru who were much bigger question marks, and one of them a potential mislynch.

Yolo.

##Unvote
##Vote Cav
(if I didn't already)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 07 2014 18:44 GMT
#2519
On July 08 2014 03:40 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:38 Vivax wrote:
It just strikes me as idiotic that all the possible scum didn't wanna kill Cav D1.
It's potential wifom too, but I know I wouldn't let such a chance slide as scum.


Who do you think would be under more pressure? The people on a green lynch or the people on a cop lynch?


Pressure cause of a mislynch is overrated.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 07 2014 19:05 GMT
#2523
Cav if you really are town, then only you can win the game by delivering bulletproof evidence as to why you think some dude is scum.

I'll be listening and considering.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 07 2014 20:54 GMT
#2538
I just read your case, but it doesn't convince me, sorry
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 07 2014 21:30 GMT
#2546
On July 08 2014 06:06 Rainbows wrote:
The modkill is actually a good thing here, one less guy to suspect.
The modkill does put us into a worse position cause if mafia kills a guy tonight, tomorrow it's a 2 v 1 instead of a 3 v 1.
Now I have to decide if Vivax has been fooling me the entire game, or if the game is simple.


Same goes for you bro.

I have to admit that you being on Cav comparatively early does give me a big pause.
And ExO unlurked ONLY to save him for no given reason.
And ExO is tougher to modkill than haru it seems.

I'm inclined to go for the easy version where he's scum, but it's better to not leave any stone unturned and you think along the same lines.

OO dies tonight cause anything else would be pretty dumb for scum to do.

So if you're scum and ExO is the puppet you will probably win the game cause he seems like he would be more inclined to lynch me.
But tbh I'm feeling quite strong on Exoscum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 07 2014 22:00 GMT
#2549
You could start by explaining why your lurk all day claiming your reads are weak but show up at the last second to save a mafia roleblocker.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 07 2014 22:25 GMT
#2552
So, who we lynching tomorrow, Exo?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 07 2014 22:52 GMT
#2554
On July 08 2014 07:45 ExO_ wrote:
assuming they lynch OO? idk I think Rainbows, but it's just a matter of figuring out which one of you played me better, because I've definitely been manipulated this game


If you're town, we'll figure it out tomorrow. I know how scum thinks at lylo.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 08 2014 12:37 GMT
#2561
OO, who's more scum between ExO and rain.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 08 2014 14:28 GMT
#2568
Tough titties, Exo. We might lose the game cause in truth you were a mafia puppet playing to their music but I suppose that's a risk to take when there are better arguments for rainbows being town than there are for you being it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 08 2014 15:14 GMT
#2570
On July 08 2014 23:57 ExO_ wrote:
All I can say is that it's unfortunate that the mafia were able to play me so well.

I think the closed setup had a lot to do with it though. The fact that there wasn't a cop let Cav's cop claim just completely slide, and I couldn't see a world in which doctor+1 shot vigi is balanced vs 2 mafia + mafia roleblocker. So because there was nobody counter claiming cav, I believed him


He just got really really really lucky with that claim not being owned by one of the towns.
You know the drill. If you want to live, you have to convince me that rainbows is scum, or convince him that I'm scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 09 2014 15:34 GMT
#2587
##Vote: Rainbows
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 10 2014 12:42 GMT
#2593
On July 10 2014 19:13 ExO_ wrote:
there's 3 people left in this game, what are we supposed to be discussing lol? there's a limit to how active we can be with 3 players left in the final vote and having to wait 48 hours


You could discuss my vote, you've openly expressed that you're puzzled about it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 10 2014 13:43 GMT
#2595
On July 10 2014 22:22 ExO_ wrote:
just that you're not saying anything with it. Didn't you think it was me yesterday?


Is it you?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 10 2014 14:04 GMT
#2597
Read this and tell me what you think:

On June 29 2014 22:44 Rainbows wrote:
Working so much today, so I better dump this while I can.

The Cav Situation


If Cav is actually the cop, then his role is useless to us. Mafia almost always have a roleblocker, and any checks from him will certainly be wasted if he survives onward. I think he's a good vigilante shot for this reason. Votes were tied 6-6, if Cav is mafia the game may be solved right there based on vote analysis. If he flips Cop, then we know the wagon was both on town. I'd rather get him vigg'd and out of the way right here and now. And a lynch is not a terrible option either unless he considerably steps up his game and is shining townie out of his butthole.

Haru and Tehpoofter


I know they're playing in a different game right now. For Haru, I'm going to excuse the activity until day 2, where I expect results from him. In fact, Haru, I REALLY want your opinion on the fake cop claim, like talk to me about it and where you're coming from on the situation. I think you might be able to shine a better light on it than anyone else. Banks is also playing in another game, and he seemed kinda-sort-townie catching up in the thread. However, I can't remember anything he's done this game except be at odds with Robik which doesn't tell me anything. I grouped Haru and TP together because they both have an excuse for not being here as much (that I can see, tangibly) and I want to get a better read on them tomorrow. Haru promised reads. Banks needs to do the same.

ExO

One liners entirely in the filter. The only post I can remember clearly is this:

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 06:29 ExO_ wrote:
I keep up with the thread, in particular the voting. I don't really have a good reason on anybody, but between sinani and cav, I'd choose cav, and did. Perhaps itll come back to bite me and will hurt town :/

Oh well I'm imperfect. I'm just plan old Argentina, a Vanilla town. Lynch me tomorrow if you wish.


Like, I really don't even know how to respond to this post. Mafia -- too risky to make this move? But why even do it as a townie, WHY MARTYR AT THIS STAGE. I can go with the "too blatantly anti-town to be anti-town" analysis or I can go with the "mafia pretending to be distraught townie" analysis. He also voted Sinani for no reason, and someone brought up a good point about how he knew who to lynch without ever posting near the deadline at all (active lurking). Either way, ExO is a toss up unless Cav flips mafia, in which case ExO is probably also mafia. Wouldn't contest to a vigi shot here either. Might even lynch him.


ObviousOne

I pressured ObviousOne day 1, and I actually liked his response about how he wanted to play the game and how people calling him mafia were interrupting with his playstyle. I can understand that, you just want to get your reads out there. People calling you mafia (when you're the only confirmed town you have) is annoying as shit.

But then I ask his for his read on Koshi, because he was sure he was the lynch earlier.

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 04:07 ObviousOne wrote:
On June 29 2014 04:01 Rainbows wrote:
So OO how do you feel about Koshi now? You were sire that was the lynch.

I was pretty pissed because his read was horseshit but after time has passed I saw how 1) he didn't keep pushing me when he could have since I wasn't in the thread for like half of the day 2) agree with his scum read on cav 3) cav keeps doing the thing I associate with mafia / guilt for not being in the thread by excusing himself for future participation instead of just going with it like nothing is wrong with the fact that he can't be around 4) back to koshi, im happy he stopped with the derpy play that haunts my memory from many games ago or at least doesn't keep it up forever ["my minions" whatever game that was pissed me off i was sure he was mafia there and that kind of stays with me]


He talks more about Cav than he does Koshi, which I find odd. He does think Koshi is more townie (I guess?) because he didn't keep pushing OO and stopped the derpy play. He asserts his supposed townread on Koshi here:

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 04:24 ObviousOne wrote:
kushm4sta vs. Koshi

Round 1

FIGHT!

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 04:25 ObviousOne wrote:
actually don't i think both of you are town that would be stupid for me to encourage plz no fighterino


But, apparently OO wants to vig his newly-aquired townread:

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 06:12 ObviousOne wrote:
So if there's a vigi, please shoot Koshi.


I don't really understand the mindset. Does he go from 100% Koshi scum, to Koshi is town, to VIG Koshi, in a townie head? Don't think so. I would probably lynch him tomorrow, he's giving me the odd feels.

Robik

Bad lynch for tomorrow. He is probably town for the ALL CAPS OMFG LYNCH THIS ASSHOLE stuff. No reason to lynch tmrw imo.

Kush

Has begun to show signs of minor scum. Will elaborate if they continue, but he actually seems town this game in comparison to last. No lyncherino tmrw.

Mderg

Probably scum for flipping his read on the Robik situation, Vivax gave a decent analysis somewhere. His EoD voting shenanigans are weird. He did the whole "shouldn't lynch the blueclaim, but I don't want to lynch the other wagon either" gambit.

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 05:41 mderg wrote:
With Cav´s claim there´s no way we should lynch him now.
I also don´t want to lynch sinani because I don´t think scum would actually react to the Robik fakeslip like he did. Still a better lynch than cav but I would rather lynch haru right now.


If Cav is town hero cop than Mderg is likely scum trying to distance himself from the lynch. Sinani or Cav was getting lynched 100%, trying to start a new wagon was futile. But, at the end of the day, town can't blame Mderg for voting where he did because he never really wanted to to begin with, but was forced. I've seen scum do this before---see two town wagons, exclaim you don't like either of them, and vote someone else. It's a familiar gambit and I wouldn't put it past anyone. Would lynch atm.

Palmar

Palmar also wasted his vote yesterday. Been extraordinarily inactive for Palmar. Voted Koshi for no reasons given. Built himself as the 'super confirmed-town hero' at the beginning of Day 1 with a spurt of activity and a case, but has sadly been riding off the town cred gained from there. Probably also not a good lynch for tomorrow, because there are a few others before him. If he's town he'll be able to show it, I hope.

Vivax

I find myself agreeing with his reads a lot, which for me indicates town. I liked his fake shot onto Mderg and the way he feels about Palmar (though, I think some of the Palmar read stems from OMGUS). Probably town because of activity, the way he's handled pressure on him, and his reads which I agree with.

Koshi

I went from KOSHI EVUL SCUM early onto maybe townie koshi to now i'm not even sure. I don't want to lynch him tomorrow over some others, and that's all I really know. I don't even want to look at him right now. I'll put the probably town sticker over his name and all it a day.

sooo Ima go with lynch / vig into Cav / Mderg / Exo / OO. Also wary of Palmar, but no lynch tmrw. Be wary of Haru and TP tomorrow -- if they don't show or participate well, kill them imo.

Vivax better be town, if I die he's your leader imo. Trust him, probably robik, and I wouldn't discount kush / koshi as also town.


On June 30 2014 09:03 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 09:01 Rainbows wrote:
On June 30 2014 08:59 Cavalinho wrote:
On June 30 2014 08:53 ExO_ wrote:
Forget Cavalinho, Robik is all over the place. Silly fake claims, says palmar is town and he shot him. Just generally trying to look like somebody fucking around. Only I think that's exactly it. He's trying to look like he's a townie messing around. He's scum in town's clothing...or more like scum dressed like a town trying to dress like fake scum.

Whatever it is, he's cross dressing up a storm.

##Lynch Robik


Possibly. His play isn't entirely congruent, so there could be something here.

We aren't lynching Robik today though. The people on the sinani wagon should be like confirmed town to you right now. Focus on the people on my wagon.


Why?


kushm4sta, ObviousOne, HaruRH, Vivax

This is a fucking retarded list to lynch into. Everyone I didn't list is either confirmed town or myself. And kush is probably the vigi.

Nope.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 10 2014 14:05 GMT
#2598
I'm surprised rainbows didn't post yet.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 10 2014 14:48 GMT
#2601
It's a very antagonistic post towards Cav given that he called some of the guys in his list scummy previously.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 10 2014 14:55 GMT
#2603
On July 10 2014 23:50 ExO_ wrote:
But if he's mafia, is he just doing that to create distance between them? and to be fair didn't u have a lot of negative things to say about cav as well, so couldn't the same argument be made about you?


Do you still think it's possible that I'm mafia?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21973 Posts
July 10 2014 15:04 GMT
#2604
Think about what happened this day thoroughly and then give me the answer.
Think about town objectives and scum objectives at lylo.
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