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On July 07 2014 14:06 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 13:58 Rainbows wrote:
ExO's posts went from day 3: KILL VIVAX/HARU/RAINBOWS GOGOGO to
day 4: shrug, i dunno. Dat scum lynch so demotivating huh? I backed off towards the end of day 3 because I started thinking I might be wrong. Now I'm not sure how to interpret everything. I mean look at the way poofter went out, I couldn't read that at all and up until the moment he died he was insisting he's innocent. So without kush I don't have a clue who could be town or mafia. The closed setup is messing with my mind :/
Well, your original read of haru and vivax scumteam still stands, just with poofter as the third instead of me.
What happened to that?
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Exo i remember you saying "Vivax/haru 100% scum together"... not sure on third though.
Poofter flipping should have fueled that wagon even more because those two were late on the poofter train after kush and I started it.
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On July 07 2014 14:16 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 14:04 Rainbows wrote:On July 07 2014 14:00 Cavalinho wrote:
Yeah, I'm aware. I'm reading through his stuff now.
Didn't you say that there can't be an exo/haru team? If I claimed these as my scumreads, I don't think they would make sense as a whole. I said it could be possible, but it's far more unlikely than it is likely. If you really think OO or vivax aren't the match, then they must be the glove to fit huh? Only technically. I'm reading through Haru's stuff, and I don't get his mylo vote or his scumreads. He votes Poofter while stating that he wants to lynch basically everyone else, and refuses to elaborate on why OO is scum despite having me as his top scumread for basically forever. The dude has completely dropped off and I have no idea how to even move on On the flip side, ExO made a giant post that Poofter basically up and agreed with, despite not actually reading it or the pages before it. Does that sound like the interaction a scumteam would have?
Don't ask me for the answer. I want your answer.
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Cav don't vote haru. Either you or ExO dies today. and if haru gets modkilled thats a bonus.
So guess where I want your vote.
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Cav whyd you townread poofter most of the game yo
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day 3, didnt wanna lynch him at all. Your vote on him was like getting a 6 yr old to eat liver.
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Vivax if you're 100% on exo why arent you lynching him
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Im pretty sure the team is Cav / exo or cav / haru...
Is hari getting modboned?
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Also I was the second vote on Poofter, I just trolled and switched to haru and OO for no reason when drunk. Sheeped Kush as soon as he put the vote down.
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And ExO the development of your reads made no sense when Poofter flipped scum. I don't see how you went from VIVAX/HARU 100% scum +1, and then when poofter flips scum, you shrug and say I don't know. It doesn't make a lick of sense to me if you're town.
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On July 08 2014 02:06 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 02:00 Rainbows wrote:
And ExO the development of your reads made no sense when Poofter flipped scum. I don't see how you went from VIVAX/HARU 100% scum +1, and then when poofter flips scum, you shrug and say I don't know. It doesn't make a lick of sense to me if you're town. because I didn't think poofter was scum. I was sure it was Vivax Harurh + you or an off chance of somebody like OO, but I didn't think poofter. It meant that my reads were wrong to some degree, and that meant I might be wrong about the whole thing. It's like believing 100% in something, then having it turn out not true. Makes you question everything else you believe in.
The logical thing to do is just reevaluate your reads based on Poofter's flip. And you haven't done that. Poofter's filter indicates Cav as scum.
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On July 04 2014 07:15 Tehpoofter wrote:why yes he did poofter he claimed doctor. So Between the 3 claims one almost assuredly is fake. Kush is most believable because he claimed to have shot Palmer and at night was asking people about palmer being town. He also yelled at robik for claiming it and asked him why he was being stupid like he KNEW he was the one who did it. Cav is basically forced to claim day 1. He claims or dies. It felt to me like the newbie game where he claimed on day 1 and still got lynched. (Almost happened again) He has since gotten pushed on by who I think is the scummiest person in the game Vivax then backed off then pushed some more. OO is claiming at a lylo situation as the last person to claim. He has the post where he softed twice it seems. Which is good but being kinda out of the game and not initially wanting to lynch cav (in his claim post) looks weird for him a bit. He has been one of my townier reads so I'm not really sure. I feel like if OO had opened the day with his claim instead of being the last one it would make him probably the town.
For me I'd say kush is easily the most believable I could see the other two being scum and town. I don't really see a world with 2 pr's that are scum Vigi Cop and Vigi Medic both seem like fairly balanced setups. Purely setup wise I feel like Vigi Cop is more likely because it seems scum only has 1 kp and if there is Vigi medic and medic gets some saves the game becomes really hard for scum. Although town not having a cop makes it hard for town as well. So in the 3 we have probably a 33% chance (more like 50% if you believe kush) or in the other 5 we have a 50% chance from my POV (or anyone in the other 5 of hitting a scum) or a 40% chance if you are outside the claims. I think for me the mafia is Vivax/Rainbows or Haru and one between OO/Cav For me I'd love to kill vivax because hes my strongest read. I think kush has had the wool pulled over his eyes by the amount of posting hes doing. But imagine a world where him and OO are scumbuddies and vivax works all day to make the cop look bad and just for insurance has OO come in and claim medic to his preestablished claim. Bleh I need to think about this.
On July 04 2014 12:07 Tehpoofter wrote:Oh as to the Cav thing again I've said it before in my head i thought if Cav was mafia it would become VERY obvious someone would claim in a townie way and it would be just like insta lynch Cav or he would die or just become confirmed at some point. I thuoght OO did it in a scummy way which through a wrench in what I thoguht would happen. I said something to robik about it here. Show nested quote +On July 01 2014 09:46 Tehpoofter wrote:
Since Im apparently just talking to myself. A couple thoughts for the game. Why is everyone town reading Vivax? I really don't see it. I feel like his game play has not been townie. I think that he is probably upset that Palmer got shot because it gave him an easy tunnel and that was taken from him. He also is really playing up the Koshi kill making him look good which is scummy. Idk someone just let me know what I'm missing.
I think that Robik and me are on the same page when it comes to Cav and how to handle him... at least I hope so by the way he is talking. So I feel like scum would have to kill both of us to play out the Cav situation in their favor. I'm sure others know what to do to but Look for guidance on that from Robik should I not be here.
How many PRs does HF usually put into his games? (This one probably not best for discussions in thread but more of a food for thought)
I'm going to look at other shit on here but I should be around for a couple hours. As its a common play in video mafia.
Poofter always thought OO was the scummier one but never Cav. He claims that Cav is an innocent little newbie. If both are town, then scum poofter probably has no difference in opinion on either of them.
But he has preference. Because one of them he doesn't want to lynch.
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In the first post he basically sums up what happens to Cav, but doesn't give a read on him
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Cav, he was never open for you're lynch.
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On July 08 2014 02:42 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 02:39 Rainbows wrote:
Cav, he was never open for you're lynch. Yes he fucking was. He said so multiple times. Did you even bother to look through his filter?
Just because he said he was, never meant he was. How many times did he really question or push you? Did he ever vote for you?
Day 2 he said:
"Right now I'm on the Cav is actually the cop boat because a) He's claimed day 1 before as cop so its in his range b) No one is CCing after a night of checks which would be really good for town to have a basically confirmed mafia and another check."
And he voted away from you day 1.
Doesn't seem like he ever wanted to lynch you to me.
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I can say: Hey guys, I'm down to lynch Palmar today.
Doesn't mean I'll actually lynch Palmar today.
Actions > Words.
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So he thought you were the cop, but "still wanted to lynch you"
And look who he didn't want to lynch at mylo.
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On July 08 2014 02:49 Rainbows wrote:
I can say: Hey guys, I'm down to lynch Palmar today.
Doesn't mean I'll actually lynch Palmar today.
Actions > Words.
Poofter kept you at arms length, at best.
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On July 08 2014 02:55 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +Where is like Haru/OO/Cav??? We just the town cutting each others legs off while scum afk? (lawls I've been afk like half the game)
So he just threw your name in with a bunch of other guys and implied the group was scum.
So where is he pushing for your lynch again?
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On July 08 2014 02:57 Cavalinho wrote:
Every single person in the game has done this. Nobody has considered me town at any point in the game, in yet nobody voted me on mylo.
ExO and Poofter both explicitly said they believed your claim?
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