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On June 24 2014 08:58 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 08:57 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 24 2014 08:53 slOosh wrote:
You said you were gonna push whoever survives tomorrow anyways, why so antsy? party cause Ve is more likely to flip scum but... also cause I want ve DEAD. I want him to die, to get lynched at my hands. I want this lynch to go my way. I want to be able to mockingly say "who's the town leader now? looks you failed on both qualifications" after he flips I want him to be SAD. On June 24 2014 08:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 24 2014 08:51 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Oh, come on. A guy can't just martyr a bunch and be like "hue hue you guys will look silly when I flip town" and have that be a towntell! What kind of stinking meta is this? Look, VE has, and listen to me about this, basically objectively played scummy about every major lynch in this game. He has faked anger, he has faked being afk, he has even posted a useless "Death reads" post that contains no new info and martyred for the past half hour. There's no way that this could possibly be a town VE. If he flips town I will PROVERBIALLY eat my hat.
I am very, very glad that we have Koshi as a counterwagon; he at least is likely to flip scum. But come on, guys, look at VE. He's so much scummier. omg. It doesn't matter if you think it's stinking meta, it's accurate. Since when do you care about the way in which someone gives off towntells? It's either accurate or it isn't, and I'm pretty sure it's accurate. The faking anger/afk thing is all projection and something you can't be certain of. [citation needed] And this is why you're objectively a bad player. Because you play for yourself and not to win. Only if you're town, that is. If you're scum, masterful job chap.
I'm gonna be real here VE, another non-trivial reason I'm lynching you and not Koshi is I'm tired of dealing with your attitude. Even if you and Koshi were equal scumreads in my eyes, I'd lynch you first. Hell, even if Koshi was slightly scummier. Your tone and your treatment of me this game sicken me.
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Well, since the deadline is like actually in 40 minutes this is a little anticlimactic. I voted Koshi over VE entirely on a whim, I'm not sure why, but I trust it. Maybe I'll go back. Maybe I should go back. But I'll stay on Koshi cause he's who I voted when I thought it would matter.
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Man, why am I even willing to vote for Koshi, it means I'll have to deal with VE for another 72 hours until I lynch him, too. Ugh. But Koshi makes so little sense, why is he posting cases on LM and voting VE?
I hate myself so much. I just want VE to not speak for 72 hours. Actually, you know what, you guys will lynch Koshi tomorrow anyways, I should move back to VE. Or not.
Someone tell me why I should move back to VE please
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On June 24 2014 09:06 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 09:04 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Man, why am I even willing to vote for Koshi, it means I'll have to deal with VE for another 72 hours until I lynch him, too. Ugh. But Koshi makes so little sense, why is he posting cases on LM and voting VE?
I hate myself so much. I just want VE to not speak for 72 hours. Actually, you know what, you guys will lynch Koshi tomorrow anyways, I should move back to VE. Or not.
Someone tell me why I should move back to VE please There's no good reason to do this.
Yeah you're right I should just get rid of you first, Koshi tomorrow. You had your chance to be useful. I just wish we could double lynch today 
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On June 24 2014 09:09 Koshi wrote:
Another 42 minutes.............
What can I say. All my scumreads are on me.
I know I made a case on lm and didnt vote him. How fucking bad do you thibk I am??
Your vote was on VE, you didn't make a case on VE, then you wrote this big case on LM and said you really wanted to lynch him, but apparently you didn't cause you kept your vote on VE. If you think about it, this is exactly the kind of thing we're lynching VE for doing lol
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On June 24 2014 09:11 slOosh wrote:Like no one else finding Lazermonkey's recent posts super off? Like, somehow these posts look like pushing? Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 04:23 Koshi wrote:On June 24 2014 04:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Nah, I want to lynch the Kosher. On June 24 2014 03:25 Koshi wrote:
VE any chance you can give us more about your reads on the players in this gmae? The only thing you said in your last 3 post is thqt you are town. scum shows;activity, tozn gives reads; This post is really bad. No, it is actually 100% truth. Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 05:15 Koshi wrote:How hard can this be. There are still 5 people in the running for scum. BH/Release/Artanis look town. Or shot not be considered for the mderg lynch today. Artanis is a little fucker but who cares. Snickers/VE/Lazermonkey/Chezinu/SloOsh are left. Snickers can be excused due to mderg filter. Very unlikely that he is scum with mderg. Not a good lynch. Chezinu is Chezinu and was on mderg. I guess we have a doc and not a cop so that's unfortunate but even then I wouldn't lynch Chezinu because he isn't harmful to town in any way. He isn't pushing an agenda he is just being around. VE is away on the wrong moments, pushes scum but then doesn't vote scum, can't be tied to anybody in case he flips scum because his reads are all neutral, and is currently just showing activity. Lazermonkey is just trying to get me lynched. Even when his top scumreads were SloOsh and VE he was pushing me the hardest. Look at D2, he just came in to push me while IGNORING the mderg/BH wagons. I am pretty sure that scumtactics were to get BH lynched (who was main candidate back then) and then myself. On June 20 2014 22:56 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 20 2014 19:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BH, I'm not a newbie player. I know that similarities does not necessarily mean the same alignment, but previous games can give you insights into their mind. Particularly a scum qt can be enlightening. It told me mderg is someone that thinks before he posts as scum, which is a point against him being scum this game.
I'm not up for a mderg lynch at this point in time. I am up for a Koshi lynch though.
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##Vote Koshi This is also a good point brought up. Everyone that is voting mderg should explain why they vote him very very clearly and why the reason you vote him makes him scum. Explain how that action isn't likely to have come out of a newbie town player also. On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.
Vote him. On June 21 2014 07:08 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 21 2014 06:04 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.
Vote him. As a matter of policy, I do not lynch players right after they replace in. I leave them alone for a full cycle. I find this typically works pretty well; people need time to get their shit together usually. Its been a full cycle now. Not even kidding. All these posts indicate that Lazermonkey is actually following the thread. Nowhere it looks like he is lagging behind so he can't give an opinion on Mderg/BH. Clearly it was a choice from Lazermonkey to not comment on it. Why not? Because BH was going to get lynched and Lazermonkey was setting up the next misslynch. That's why. There is enough time between these posts to catch up with the thread. Are you going to believe he just came in once an hour and just looked at my filter and pushes me? Why wouldn't scum be superlazy on D2 with BH playing suicidal? btw, looking in Lazermonkies filter I think VE is town. reasons: 1) Lazermonkies case on D3 is based on VE not defending bunnies enough D1. Knowing that Lazermonkey wasn't "able" to follow the game D2/N2 it is pretty insane he remembered all this from D1. ScumMonkey however could have planned this case as soon as bunnies was lynched D1. 2) As soon as I moved off LM and on VE today LM called me sensible. This means he got a pretty strong scumread on VE right? But as soon as VE enters the thread with null posts LM seems to have VE as town and starts to push Koshi/SloOsh. This could be because they are scumbuddies but could just as easily be because townVE was in the thread and is more active and has more influance than SloOsh and me. I really want to lynch LM. Yeah LM clearly didn't read Koshi's filter. I feel bad about defending LM now. He's not even Koshi or VE tier lynchworthy imo tho Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 09:12 Release wrote:
I feel that you did not refute YKZ's points in his big case adequately. (@VE) s/adequately/even a tiny bit
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On June 24 2014 09:14 YouKnowZhou wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 09:11 slOosh wrote:Like no one else finding Lazermonkey's recent posts super off? Like, somehow these posts look like pushing? On June 24 2014 04:23 Koshi wrote:On June 24 2014 04:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Nah, I want to lynch the Kosher. On June 24 2014 03:25 Koshi wrote:
VE any chance you can give us more about your reads on the players in this gmae? The only thing you said in your last 3 post is thqt you are town. scum shows;activity, tozn gives reads; This post is really bad. No, it is actually 100% truth. On June 24 2014 05:15 Koshi wrote:How hard can this be. There are still 5 people in the running for scum. BH/Release/Artanis look town. Or shot not be considered for the mderg lynch today. Artanis is a little fucker but who cares. Snickers/VE/Lazermonkey/Chezinu/SloOsh are left. Snickers can be excused due to mderg filter. Very unlikely that he is scum with mderg. Not a good lynch. Chezinu is Chezinu and was on mderg. I guess we have a doc and not a cop so that's unfortunate but even then I wouldn't lynch Chezinu because he isn't harmful to town in any way. He isn't pushing an agenda he is just being around. VE is away on the wrong moments, pushes scum but then doesn't vote scum, can't be tied to anybody in case he flips scum because his reads are all neutral, and is currently just showing activity. Lazermonkey is just trying to get me lynched. Even when his top scumreads were SloOsh and VE he was pushing me the hardest. Look at D2, he just came in to push me while IGNORING the mderg/BH wagons. I am pretty sure that scumtactics were to get BH lynched (who was main candidate back then) and then myself. On June 20 2014 22:56 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 20 2014 19:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BH, I'm not a newbie player. I know that similarities does not necessarily mean the same alignment, but previous games can give you insights into their mind. Particularly a scum qt can be enlightening. It told me mderg is someone that thinks before he posts as scum, which is a point against him being scum this game.
I'm not up for a mderg lynch at this point in time. I am up for a Koshi lynch though.
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##Vote Koshi This is also a good point brought up. Everyone that is voting mderg should explain why they vote him very very clearly and why the reason you vote him makes him scum. Explain how that action isn't likely to have come out of a newbie town player also. On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.
Vote him. On June 21 2014 07:08 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 21 2014 06:04 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.
Vote him. As a matter of policy, I do not lynch players right after they replace in. I leave them alone for a full cycle. I find this typically works pretty well; people need time to get their shit together usually. Its been a full cycle now. Not even kidding. All these posts indicate that Lazermonkey is actually following the thread. Nowhere it looks like he is lagging behind so he can't give an opinion on Mderg/BH. Clearly it was a choice from Lazermonkey to not comment on it. Why not? Because BH was going to get lynched and Lazermonkey was setting up the next misslynch. That's why. There is enough time between these posts to catch up with the thread. Are you going to believe he just came in once an hour and just looked at my filter and pushes me? Why wouldn't scum be superlazy on D2 with BH playing suicidal? btw, looking in Lazermonkies filter I think VE is town. reasons: 1) Lazermonkies case on D3 is based on VE not defending bunnies enough D1. Knowing that Lazermonkey wasn't "able" to follow the game D2/N2 it is pretty insane he remembered all this from D1. ScumMonkey however could have planned this case as soon as bunnies was lynched D1. 2) As soon as I moved off LM and on VE today LM called me sensible. This means he got a pretty strong scumread on VE right? But as soon as VE enters the thread with null posts LM seems to have VE as town and starts to push Koshi/SloOsh. This could be because they are scumbuddies but could just as easily be because townVE was in the thread and is more active and has more influance than SloOsh and me. I really want to lynch LM. Yeah LM clearly didn't read Koshi's filter. I feel bad about defending LM now. He's not even Koshi or VE tier lynchworthy imo tho Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 09:12 Release wrote:
I feel that you did not refute YKZ's points in his big case adequately. (@VE) s/adequately/even a tiny bit
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I'm not sure I fully understand this latest push on LM. Is it because he characterized Koshi's non-vote of him as a push on him, when in fact it was not?
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On June 24 2014 09:33 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 08:59 YouKnowZhou wrote:
I wish we had like a few more mitnues so we could get a VE swap going. the wagons are too close to do it now. VE is my top scum read going in to tomorrow if mderg flips town.
he doesn't make sense. his timing is off. and his explanation for voting me over mderg clearly doesn't hold up Like BH even tries to switch off mderg onto me man, I don't know how much clearer I can make this.
Um not true.
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On June 24 2014 09:33 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 08:59 YouKnowZhou wrote:
I wish we had like a few more mitnues so we could get a VE swap going. the wagons are too close to do it now. VE is my top scum read going in to tomorrow if mderg flips town.
he doesn't make sense. his timing is off. and his explanation for voting me over mderg clearly doesn't hold up Like BH even tries to switch off mderg onto me man, I don't know how much clearer I can make this.
This is literally a lie. I am trying to get not-me lynched, but I specify (can't find the post right now) that VE is my least favorite non-me wagon. Then, VE does his return to the thread stuff and I realize he's scum-- you'll notice a lot of the evidence in my case has appeared by this point. I point this out, but it's too late to swap, so I am going for him after mderg, which I am.
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On June 24 2014 09:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'll leave the vote on Koshi I think. I really think scum VE would not play this way. Its just too suicidal.
Look man, VE has basically given up. He knows he is being lynched. He's setting the stage for scum #3 and he's trying to avoid giving away hints. Instead, he's just calling people bad, and trying to get a wagon going on anyone not him. It's perfect because it gives away no info, nothing useful to town. he's not too scummy to be scum, he's perfectly scummy to be scum.
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Wow, I looks like VE flipped town. I even had a glorious speech making fun of scum VE all prepped and ready. I won't make fun of VE for getting lynched despite apparently being the town leader, since I'm sure he's no more pleased with this outcome than I am. Well, we'll get 'em tomorrow-- in a way this was kinda a free lynch cause of that save last night. Maybe we'll get another tonight!
I'm gonna go grab dinner, leave requests for end-of-night reads, answers, etc here in the thread for me.
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Koshi, my man, you're going about this the wrong way. People are gonna want to vote you no matter what. If by some stretch of the imagination you are town, all you have to do is catch scum and right a convincing case. Remember, the case against you would be false, and the case written by you would be true, so you could do it even better. I don't think there's any actually good explanation for your actions; I think you're scum. But humor me and give catching scum your best shot, as though you were a townie. I'll read your case.
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So unfortunately I'm trapped at dinner between now and daybreak. I'll do what I can to answer questions. I was hoping I could pull some clever cop fakeclaim maybe draw s shot but I'm not sure that will be possible like this.
I still like kosh for a lynch. I'm still unwilling to lynch lm because of the latevote. I've generally found art town and he is my top townread
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On June 25 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote:
Yea I think it would be a lot better to lynch Lazermonkey because he forgot that he voted mderg day one. I already explained why I thought it was suspicious.
Could you link or.quote this for me please
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VE once referred to sloosh as his town rock. Do you mean that?
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I like release for responding st length to my discussions yesterday even if he initially disagreed. If he changed his view or whatever it should be obvious if his mindset is bag.
To reiterate on kosh he really didn't give reasoning for his VE vote and the lm ca see came sty a very wired time. His other actions I don't really care about. Whining isn't a scum tell unless it is accompanied by lack of play. His d3 votes don't name sense.
What I take away most from VE filter.is.his scrutiny of people.who voted mdetg d one and not two. We should
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