EPTOn June 25 2014 08:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:slOosh - His D1 was really strong and he's asking questions and pushing the game forward rather than just his own reads. If I'm wrong on any of my town reads, I think it's slOosh though.
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On June 25 2014 09:15 YouKnowZhou wrote: And this despite the fact the chez us obviously the cop I would actually make alot of sense that he saved Chez. He has him highest on his town reads which doesn't make alot of sense otherwise... | ||
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On June 25 2014 09:18 YouKnowZhou wrote: Oh didn't pay attention to that. Wasn't he crumbling sloish with the whole one hindered percent thing? I guess he could have saved chez the top townread. Let's not lynch chez for two reasons then But wait!?! Why exactly was it obvious that Chez was cop? Saving Chez doesn't really make any sense otherwise. | ||
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On June 25 2014 11:03 Snickers wrote: I would not be surprised if mafia killed NameDropper just because one of the persons he had as town is mafia. Also, somebody mentioned him saving someone. There could be more than one medic i think for town. Also Lazer your wifom is terrible. I already explained why. Okay, Snickers, I'm getting sick and tired of this. MY (???) WIFOM is terrible? No, you are the only one that is using terrible WIFOM. You are the one using massive assumptions to justify your scum read on me. Can you please explain to me why what I did makes me scum? Why is my action NOT likely to have come from a townie? Get your shit together, Snickers. | ||
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On June 25 2014 06:23 slOosh wrote: Here is why I'd rather lynch Lazermonkey than Koshi. Artanis, this is also why I'd rather lynch BH than into Lazermonkey / Koshi if you feel so strongly on the Koshi read. Also both BH and LM want to lynch Koshi. I am totally not down for a Koshi lynch. On June 25 2014 10:36 slOosh wrote: Right. Let's do this guys. ##Vote Lazermonkey | ||
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On June 26 2014 00:13 Snickers wrote: Yea so last two scum are ykz and lazer. Lazer says that him not remembering his vote says something to the effectt of "well this does not make me look good :D" Then I say that it makes him look bad and this flips his world upside down. Ykz is scum because he broke out of his character completely now. Also look at how weak his case on koshi is compared to VE. Even 27nb. Also he did not comment on me responding to him. Lazer is more so than ykz. Side not: koshi's recent point about is weird. Well this is a lie. I said "Well this makes me look much better, doesn't it? : D" because it meant that I voted for scum D1. I am done with you though. All your reads are super off, you refuse to look at what I write and you are probably town. No reason to spend any time on you. Once you adress my points or make a super clear post on why what I did makes me scum I'm willing to speak with you. | ||
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On June 26 2014 02:06 Snickers wrote: I'm done with you :D. Please just sheep someone with a brain when I get misslynched.You say I'm probably town then say you will not question me anymore? Lol that makes a lot of sense. Already clearly stated it and you still do not get it. Also you are confused. | ||
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[g]Chez[/g] - Most likely town. TBH I don't get why its obvious that he is cop but it doesn't even matter. It seems that at least a few people have figured out that he was a cop and that is enough for me. It also explains the otherwise wierd megatown read that Artanis had on him. [g]YKZ[/g] - Most likely town as well. Was 95% of reason that mderg died. While it is true that scum do buss, they generally buss when their teammate when he is already about to get fucked. mderg wasn't really about to get fucked. He got fucked by YKZ though. Another reason why I think he is town is the fact that he is defending me pretty hard. This will obviously not convince someone that thinks that I am scum but if you (like myself) know that I am town, then this is another indicator that YKZ is town. Snickers - Snickers is Snickers. Sadly, he is probably town. mderg attacked him and shit. I could be wrong about Snickers but I get the feeling that he is just really really bad town. Release - Simply put, he is unreasonable. Bad arguments. He did, however, make the kill on mderg possible which makes him quite likely town. His vote switch on mderg was late though so if I'm wrong about either SlOosh/Koshi then Release is probably the last scum. [r]Koshi/SlOosh[/r] - nothing really changed since yesterday as I see it. Will try to figure out which one of these guys I'd be most happy to kill though. | ||
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On June 26 2014 05:43 Lazermonkey wrote: Okay, I kinda screwed up this game. Not even sure I bother to respond the accusations against me longer. They are so fucked up and it feels like I'm talking into wall. I have tried to be reasonable and answered to all of the suspicions (I think at least). Yet people go around and thinks I'm scum either completely based on WIFOM reasons or "because it feels like LM is scum". Its just not possible to argue against stuff like that. I'll just try to out my thoughts so that you can have something to go on once I flip. Chez - Most likely town. TBH I don't get why its obvious that he is cop but it doesn't even matter. It seems that at least a few people have figured out that he was a cop and that is enough for me. It also explains the otherwise wierd megatown read that Artanis had on him. YKZ - Most likely town as well. Was 95% of reason that mderg died. While it is true that scum do buss, they generally buss when their teammate when he is already about to get fucked. mderg wasn't really about to get fucked. He got fucked by YKZ though. Another reason why I think he is town is the fact that he is defending me pretty hard. This will obviously not convince someone that thinks that I am scum but if you (like myself) know that I am town, then this is another indicator that YKZ is town. Snickers - Snickers is Snickers. Sadly, he is probably town. mderg attacked him and shit. I could be wrong about Snickers but I get the feeling that he is just really really bad town. Release - Simply put, he is unreasonable. Bad arguments. He did, however, make the kill on mderg possible which makes him quite likely town. His vote switch on mderg was late though so if I'm wrong about either SlOosh/Koshi then Release is probably the last scum. Koshi/SlOosh - nothing really changed since yesterday as I see it. Will try to figure out which one of these guys I'd be most happy to kill though. | ||
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On June 26 2014 05:51 Snickers wrote: Lazer if u want to look town to me, look at the questions sloosh ask during day one and analyze them. He asks ykz and me and somebody else about reads. They could be pointless though and just attempts to look townie. I do not have a computer to reference them to the rest of the thread. This is just a wierd way of giving out town reads, don't you think? If I was scum couldn't I just analyze them and then I'd look town to you? Not that I'm against answering questions. I'm not sure exactly what questions you are refering to though so I'll pass on it untill you specify. | ||
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On June 26 2014 05:51 Chezinu wrote: He knows he got checked, so don't expect much of a response. Waitwat. Did you really check me? What did you get for result? | ||
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Que? Weren't you a cop? I mean the one that checks roles? | ||
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On June 26 2014 05:58 YouKnowZhou wrote: Don't you mean "so you know I am vanilla"? Its obvious that I got framed in that case though. From my PoV that is. Or Chez is scum. Or insane. Why would he vote me if he got vanilla? | ||
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But you only get back roles, not alignments. As cop that is. | ||
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... So I'm guessing you got back goon/RBer then? | ||
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- Defends mderg alot. Yet he gives very weak/no reasoning on why he is defending mderg. It boils down to him saying that he doesn't like the mderg lynch. - ALL of his major pushes has been on people that are town (Artanis, VE, Bunnies, me) except for YKZ. And since I think YKZ supertown, this also implies that SlOosh has only really pushed town this game. I'm aware of the fact that you don't know my alignment nor do you know YKZ's alignment but keep this point in mind when I flip since this should also increase your townread on YKZ. - Is very eager to vote YKZ over me D3. Yet now he completly drops his read on YKZ to focus only on me. Isn't this convenient given that I am the number 1 lynch target? I'd also like to point out, once again, that I think Release's reason for thinking that SlOosh is town is BS. While asking question IS good, it is very non-commital. Telling people to stop creating chaos is also good but once again, non-commital. | ||
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During D1 and D2 (ie before everyone was getting up his ass) he basically didn't give a shit about pushing his scum reads. Look for how long he said I was scum. But noone was really voting me untill D3. Try now to put yourself in Koshi's shoes. He has a big scum read on me but noone cares about me. As town, this is where you push the fuck out of me to try and get me lynched. He didn't do that though. He was fine with someone else getting lynched. This doesn't make any sense if he is town but it does make alot of sense if he is scum. Btw since some people seems to be missunderstanding this point: there is a massive difference between who you have as a scum read and who you push. Yes, it was always clear that Koshi had me as scum read. But that doesn't help town for shit if he couldn't do anything about it. I actually think that some sort of meta read could be usefull here. I mean, now that I am going to die anyway, it IS possible that Koshi just kinda sucks as town and never pushes his scum reads. I never bothered to do this though because I was lazy. I do remember someone saying that Koshi was a good player (which would imply that he pushes his scum reads as town) so I just went with that. | ||
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On June 26 2014 06:57 slOosh wrote: Yea, so I defended mderg a couple times during day 1, and once during day 2 to vote for YKZ. Since YKZ hasn't flipped, me voting YKZ over mderg isn't alignment indicative. I pushed Artanis and backed off. I pushed VE and backed off. I never pushed bunnies, I just preferred her over mderg at the time. Clearly Lazermonkey hasn't been following the thread. Convenient? Did I also setup the Chezinu cop claim as well? Wowzers. Still hasn't voted for me despite thinking I'm superscum. A doy. lol, its not like voting you would make a difference. I mean, come on. 5 of 6 players think I'm scum to begin with and I've got a red check on myself. Convenient! You also voted me before Chez's cop claim so I don't see how this is relevant. | ||
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On June 26 2014 07:13 YouKnowZhou wrote: Look LM what I'm trying to get at here is that if you're dead anyways, let's just make the best of it. I still think you have a decent chance of flipping town, but let's be real here: there's a red check on you. You have to be lynched. So I'm not 100% sure you're scum, but I *am* 100% sure you're getting lynched today. The first step to being productive with the next 24 hours is going to be you accepting that you're getting lynched and making the best of it. So when it comes down to it, your case on sloOsh consists of him pushing townies and defending mderg with faulty reasoning, and on D4 focusing you over me (I'm assuming you're talking about before chez claimed a goon check on you). Does this accurately characterize your reasons for wanting to lynch him? Sure, I'm cool with dying. Yes, that's basically the reason I think SlOosh is scum. Given your response, it seems like you are not sharing my views, am I correct? Some more things: -Snickers, I remember someone giving pretty solid arguments for why he was town. I don't really remember who or where but I remember getting convinced. His reads are just super off but yhea. Probably town here, agree/disagree? -Release, I think his play is also really off. At first I thought that he was pretty confirmed town for his mderg vote but his vote actually came after mderg super wierd vote on Snickers. I'm getting a feeling that Release might have understood that mderg just fucked up too bad to be able to save in a good way at that point. | ||
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