On June 19 2014 21:07 Koshi wrote: Your further Evidence section is wrong. mderg says first "VE is really scummy" then he says "I have no other scumreads but snickers...".
VE do you think all scum voted for Ninjabunnies?
On June 19 2014 03:22 Koshi wrote: The 3 I named are my best guesses for scum. Scum never votes together. And you look pretty town. Just go from there.
On June 21 2014 00:47 mderg wrote: Koshi... that´s so incredibly lazy.
Lazy or scummy?
Definitely lazy, possibly scummy.
There is actually nothing scummy about it. It is only scummy when I don't follow my own rules. At this point I am nothing more than a plynch. A terrible bad one.
The power to control the colors, Chezinu stands among the last survivors. But will he realize his true potential or rather where the true power to control the colors come from?
On June 24 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote: I could lynch Koshi too. slOosh what say you about a Koshi lynch? Release? Is anyone that isn't a part of BH's Wrong Of The Month Club OPPOSED to a Koshi lynch?
I'm opposed because his read on Lazer's D2 apathy was spot on. I am planning on dialoguing with Lazermonkey right now to see what's going on here.
On June 24 2014 04:28 Koshi wrote: How are you people even considering lynching me?
You're sheeping BH who is confirmed bad at this game.
On June 24 2014 04:36 slOosh wrote: I don't like how Lazer keeps ditching whatever to get at Koshi.
He says I'm scum for being on the wrong wagon twice, but doesn't seem to consider that Koshi was on the correct wagon D2 the whole time.
All in all, lynching Lazermonkey > Koshi.
Thank you for your considerations.
On June 24 2014 04:41 slOosh wrote: Also expecting two special packages, if you know what I mean. Or I guess 3? Like 3 related packages.
WHERE IS MY PACKAGE!!! Oh yeah, I lived that night. TROLOLOLOLOLOL
Btw, the clues in smiles to vote for lazermonkey were wrong that your timing was awesome... we were such a team... WHYYYYYYY WHYYYY WHYYYY!!!!
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently!!!!!
On June 24 2014 05:15 Koshi wrote: How hard can this be. There are still 5 people in the running for scum. BH/Release/Artanis look town. Or shot not be considered for the mderg lynch today. Artanis is a little fucker but who cares. Snickers/VE/Lazermonkey/Chezinu/SloOsh are left.
Snickers can be excused due to mderg filter. Very unlikely that he is scum with mderg. Not a good lynch. Chezinu is Chezinu and was on mderg. I guess we have a doc and not a cop so that's unfortunate but even then I wouldn't lynch Chezinu because he isn't harmful to town in any way. He isn't pushing an agenda he is just being around.
VE is away on the wrong moments, pushes scum but then doesn't vote scum, can't be tied to anybody in case he flips scum because his reads are all neutral, and is currently just showing activity. Lazermonkey is just trying to get me lynched. Even when his top scumreads were SloOsh and VE he was pushing me the hardest. Look at D2, he just came in to push me while IGNORING the mderg/BH wagons. I am pretty sure that scumtactics were to get BH lynched (who was main candidate back then) and then myself.
On June 20 2014 19:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote: BH, I'm not a newbie player. I know that similarities does not necessarily mean the same alignment, but previous games can give you insights into their mind. Particularly a scum qt can be enlightening. It told me mderg is someone that thinks before he posts as scum, which is a point against him being scum this game.
I'm not up for a mderg lynch at this point in time. I am up for a Koshi lynch though. ##Unvote ##Vote Koshi
This is also a good point brought up. Everyone that is voting mderg should explain why they vote him very very clearly and why the reason you vote him makes him scum. Explain how that action isn't likely to have come out of a newbie town player also.
On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote: Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.
Vote him.
As a matter of policy, I do not lynch players right after they replace in. I leave them alone for a full cycle. I find this typically works pretty well; people need time to get their shit together usually.
Its been a full cycle now. Not even kidding.
All these posts indicate that Lazermonkey is actually following the thread. Nowhere it looks like he is lagging behind so he can't give an opinion on Mderg/BH. Clearly it was a choice from Lazermonkey to not comment on it. Why not? Because BH was going to get lynched and Lazermonkey was setting up the next misslynch. That's why. There is enough time between these posts to catch up with the thread. Are you going to believe he just came in once an hour and just looked at my filter and pushes me? Why wouldn't scum be superlazy on D2 with BH playing suicidal?
btw, looking in Lazermonkies filter I think VE is town. reasons: 1) Lazermonkies case on D3 is based on VE not defending bunnies enough D1. Knowing that Lazermonkey wasn't "able" to follow the game D2/N2 it is pretty insane he remembered all this from D1. ScumMonkey however could have planned this case as soon as bunnies was lynched D1. 2) As soon as I moved off LM and on VE today LM called me sensible. This means he got a pretty strong scumread on VE right? But as soon as VE enters the thread with null posts LM seems to have VE as town and starts to push Koshi/SloOsh. This could be because they are scumbuddies but could just as easily be because townVE was in the thread and is more active and has more influance than SloOsh and me.
I really want to lynch LM.
On June 24 2014 05:19 Koshi wrote: I forgot to add that SloOsh could be mafia because nobody wants to lynch him and he is not really being super town. Also PoE.
On June 24 2014 06:54 Snickers wrote: Koshi is town because of how bad his play continual is. Look at his first scum reads as me release and somebody else because we did not vote together. He's not pushing the thread or helping much but what do you expect from a bad town player. More on this later.
That propaganda! Great job Koshi GREAT JOB. I mean, you haven't been talking that much this game and you really got the whole not all mafia vote together spreading like crazy.
Yay! Also, I was just kidding about you being mafia. I was hoping the stuff I showed you would make you see Koshi a bit differently. Fun fact: Do you know what players have said plz in this game? Cause I don't remember. Would be interesting to know though. Also, Why didn't mafia kill you night 1?
On June 30 2014 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I saved myself on N2 you numbnuggets.
I was fully prepared to make a case on how "Artanis must have saved Release" N2. Never cam to that.
My initial read on you was right. Stupid town consensus townreading you leading to me townreading you as well Did get you from the grave though! PMed this to Kurumi 30 min before deadline.
Original Message From Artanis[Xp]: Going with a Koshi/Release scumteam. Honestly hope Koshi is scum more than anything because this'd be a really sad display of his towngame if it is.
On June 30 2014 09:12 Koshi wrote: Who did you safe on N1 Artanis?
I saved GK until 30 min before deadline when I switched to SlOosh even though my townread on him was weaker just because I thought he was more likely to get shot.
You attacked me and reconsidered. I felt that a VT would have gone ham and probed for information (like Snickers, who actually turned out to be Detective) for longer than 1 post before changing their mind.
I don't think my role was related to that honestly. I noticed a town consensus against it and felt my read wasn't strong enough to continue, but I might be biased in it. I've changed my opinions a lot this game.
On D1 I decided to go for a different style this time. Usually I just spout all my reads into the thread but I tried asking questions more now to see who had similar thought processes as me. Landed me a townread on GK, but eventually I just fell back into my usual routine after D1
I felt the VE and Lazer lynches were easily avoidable. VE played to his current town meta to a tee and BH should be ashamed of lynching him. Lazer shit townie bricks on D4 whereas Koshi went afk and I can't believe you guys lynched Lazer over Koshi that day.
Yeah my original plan was to fakeclaim that I checked lazer and then 24 hours later said I was faking it and then say the real check was Koshi. I wasn't expecting snickers to claim. Then I was thinking about switching sooner, but then realized town was adamant to lynching lazer (to determine sanity-which some say was unaviodable cause it was most likely true cause numbers of green checks) then I got busy in RL.
mderg broke Chezinu Rule and I missed it - sloosh caught it though. So it still stands. He was first to accuse me/call me scum/scummy.
I really struggled with reaction reading. I guessed you were medic/mafia. I thought snickers was red/blue and koshi red/blue as said in thread. Earlier I thought VE was mafia cause no one was accusing me, so I thought mafia loved me. Sorry VE. After VE died, I thought about Koshi cause of absence/big name rule and then snickers roleclaim/death confirmed. Release... I just didn't read any of his posts.. I didn't read much this game. TY BH tldr chez tier!! HELPED A LOT!!!
Other than that I got bored and trolled a lot.. oh and if you didn't figure it out from me or day posts. The Sheriff was the Kurumi and I was being a rebel.
To bring back an old and forgotten tradition: THANK YOU KURUMI FOR HOSTING!!!
On June 30 2014 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I saved myself on N2 you numbnuggets.
I was fully prepared to make a case on how "Artanis must have saved Release" N2. Never cam to that.
My initial read on you was right. Stupid town consensus townreading you leading to me townreading you as well Did get you from the grave though! PMed this to Kurumi 30 min before deadline.
Original Message From Artanis[Xp]: Going with a Koshi/Release scumteam. Honestly hope Koshi is scum more than anything because this'd be a really sad display of his towngame if it is.
On June 30 2014 09:12 Koshi wrote: Who did you safe on N1 Artanis?
I saved GK until 30 min before deadline when I switched to SlOosh even though my townread on him was weaker just because I thought he was more likely to get shot.
You attacked me and reconsidered. I felt that a VT would have gone ham and probed for information (like Snickers, who actually turned out to be Detective) for longer than 1 post before changing their mind.
I don't think my role was related to that honestly. I noticed a town consensus against it and felt my read wasn't strong enough to continue, but I might be biased in it. I've changed my opinions a lot this game.
On D1 I decided to go for a different style this time. Usually I just spout all my reads into the thread but I tried asking questions more now to see who had similar thought processes as me. Landed me a townread on GK, but eventually I just fell back into my usual routine after D1
I felt the VE and Lazer lynches were easily avoidable. VE played to his current town meta to a tee and BH should be ashamed of lynching him. Lazer shit townie bricks on D4 whereas Koshi went afk and I can't believe you guys lynched Lazer over Koshi that day.
Yeah my original plan was to fakeclaim that I checked lazer and then 24 hours later said I was faking it and then say the real check was Koshi. I wasn't expecting snickers to claim. Then I was thinking about switching sooner, but then realized town was adamant to lynching lazer (to determine sanity-which some say was unaviodable cause it was most likely true cause numbers of green checks) then I got busy in RL.
mderg broke Chezinu Rule and I missed it - sloosh caught it though. So it still stands. He was first to accuse me/call me scum/scummy.
I really struggled with reaction reading. I guessed you were medic/mafia. I thought snickers was red/blue and koshi red/blue as said in thread. Earlier I thought VE was mafia cause no one was accusing me, so I thought mafia loved me. Sorry VE. After VE died, I thought about Koshi cause of absence/big name rule and then snickers roleclaim/death confirmed. Release... I just didn't read any of his posts.. I didn't read much this game. TY BH tldr chez tier!! HELPED A LOT!!!
Other than that I got bored and trolled a lot.. oh and if you didn't figure it out from me or day posts. The Sheriff was the Kurumi and I was being a rebel.
To bring back an old and forgotten tradition: THANK YOU KURUMI FOR HOSTING!!!
oh at the time of fakeclaiming I was suspecting lazer/koshi mafia team. fakecheck on lazer was to test his reaction. initial reaction I thought was town, but then anger part confused me.then snickers. Day 1 and Day 2 I was lost pointing them fingers.
On June 30 2014 12:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I wonder if anyone knows why I read Chez as confirmed town.
I thank you for the opportunity for me to twist it and fake claim. It was fun. It would have worked, if it wasn't for the snickers. I would have switched to Koshi and then admit I faked it all an hour before the lynch.
PS: Chez didn't get shot by The Sheriff and the game is officially over so The Sheriff can never shoot Chez. GG
On June 20 2014 22:54 Lazermonkey wrote: I'm busy today as well but will hopefully at least be able to post during the lynch. I don't really get the BH wagon yet though. Well, I do get it but I don't get how people would rather vote for BH than they would vote for VE or Koshi.
Untill his reason vote he didn't have a single scum read what so ever. And it IS very convinient that he votes that number 1 lynchbait...
I am voting for the only person who has a case made against him. Two even. Do you disagree with the cases? I don't so I vote Mderg.
What do you mean with you don't understand why people are voting BH? BH pushed bunnies like a mofo and then disappeared, only to come back do nothing and taunt everybody, so he got votes. I am only doing the do nothing part, so I got less votes than BH.
Now that BH did something everybody should comment on that. Is the case legit or is it not? For me the case is very legit and well made so I am ok with BH. Somewhere I should look at the meta of BH in djinn game and in Ver game because he tunneled town D1 in both those games. I will do that later.
Voting me is pretty boring btw. I pinkysweared I was town when I entered the game. That should be enough. On top of that I am voting for the best cases in the thread, I am not pushing my own agenda in the thread, and I do not hide any of my reasoning from the thread.
I already told you people to look at the people who didn't vote Mderg D1. Scum never votes together. It simply doesn't happen ever. If I had to guess I would say Snickers is the scummer between the 4 but he is on Mderg ass since D1 so meh. Snickers hasn't been answering any of my questions and is just ignoring everything and pushing Release/Mderg.
But I am not pushing anything this game.
People that lie frequently. 1.Koshi 2.Release
People that play this game annoyingly (regardless of alignment most likely) 1.YKZ 2.Chezinu
Mderg do you have a question. My filter will answer it for you. Also funny how i commented on Release's whole "case" on me and he still "thinks" i did not. Do not think it is a case since he summarizes stuff and does not quote.
Also lets see who is the first to find out that YKZ's case on mderg is repeating what me and another person said. Then he completely takes the post i quoted and says the exact same thing. He even says he is sure somebody said this.
Ace would not be proud. For his motto, "Lynch all liars"
On June 30 2014 12:25 Snickers wrote: Can I get multiple views on this.
Did I claim role at the right time? I think one of the criteria is be confirmed town. I will also try to bread crumb better.
Breadcrumb. WHAT IF YOU WOULD HAVE DIED!!!! KOSHI AND RELEASE MIGHT HAVE DIED CAUSE OF YOU!!! WITH YOU CALLING THEM SCUM AND ALL!!!
lol
Unlucky for me, you claimed when I was playing a risky game. Sorry, for exposing you. I was trying to draw out koshi. But your read did point me the right direction with Koshi. The anger from lazer confused me, plus I got busy in RL - wasn't around never lynch time. I would have joined you to switch to Koshi. Overall, you did great. As blue, you want to be reddish. That's how I role. + Show Spoiler +
On June 30 2014 12:25 Snickers wrote: Can I get multiple views on this.
Did I claim role at the right time? I think one of the criteria is be confirmed town. I will also try to bread crumb better.
Your claim timing was fine. You don't need to be confirmed town to claim. All you have to do is be convincing. Breadcrumbs are okay I guess but I don't bother with them myself. I feel that if I'm in a position where I need to claim I can prove it's real anyway, and it's always possible to forge fake breadcrumbs later out of posts you've made if you were scum.
On June 30 2014 12:25 Snickers wrote: Can I get multiple views on this.
Did I claim role at the right time? I think one of the criteria is be confirmed town. I will also try to bread crumb better.
Your claim timing was fine. You don't need to be confirmed town to claim. All you have to do is be convincing. Breadcrumbs are okay I guess but I don't bother with them myself. I feel that if I'm in a position where I need to claim I can prove it's real anyway, and it's always possible to forge fake breadcrumbs later out of posts you've made if you were scum.
On June 30 2014 12:26 Chezinu wrote:
On June 30 2014 12:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 30 2014 12:08 Release wrote:
On June 30 2014 12:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I wonder if anyone knows why I read Chez as confirmed town.
I'll spoil you. I was sure you were town when your first response to a VE lynch was looking at the votes and calling me scum. I knew scum shot me the night before so for a scum Chezinu have the first reaction to a town lynch be to check the votes and call someone they just shot scum was inconceivably unlikely to me.
Thanks Doc. Maybe next time, I may fake mourn your death.
On June 30 2014 12:25 Snickers wrote: Can I get multiple views on this.
Did I claim role at the right time? I think one of the criteria is be confirmed town. I will also try to bread crumb better.
Your claim timing was fine. You don't need to be confirmed town to claim. All you have to do is be convincing. Breadcrumbs are okay I guess but I don't bother with them myself. I feel that if I'm in a position where I need to claim I can prove it's real anyway, and it's always possible to forge fake breadcrumbs later out of posts you've made if you were scum.
On June 30 2014 12:26 Chezinu wrote:
On June 30 2014 12:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 30 2014 12:08 Release wrote:
On June 30 2014 12:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I wonder if anyone knows why I read Chez as confirmed town.
I'll spoil you. I was sure you were town when your first response to a VE lynch was looking at the votes and calling me scum. I knew scum shot me the night before so for a scum Chezinu have the first reaction to a town lynch be to check the votes and call someone they just shot scum was inconceivably unlikely to me.
why you and not slOosh?
Red/Blue blindness. I don't know how. I just know who is special.
EPT
