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On June 23 2014 12:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
slOosh do you still think BH is mafia? Release does. And I think I'm rescinding his pass for his BS last night.

##Vote: YouKnowZhou

On June 24 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
I could lynch Koshi too. slOosh what say you about a Koshi lynch? Release? Is anyone that isn't a part of BH's Wrong Of The Month Club OPPOSED to a Koshi lynch?

On June 24 2014 04:26 Lazermonkey wrote:

Short version:

Pushed all the wrong wagons, defended mderg for quite unclear reasons.

On June 24 2014 04:34 Lazermonkey wrote:

I'm just saying this in case you and everyone else don't bother to check my filter accordingly: I did say that I was going to be very busy for 2-3 days before I was busy.

I'm not denying that my activity was poor as fuck during D2, I'm not denying that my reads were poor. I do know that I could've faked it all if I was scum. Try to keep what I said in mind before you vote me ONLY for sucking on D2 though. Feel free to vote me for other reasons though.

On June 24 2014 04:37 VisceraEyes wrote:

So help a brotha out and vote for LM so we can maybe lynch scum today.

On June 24 2014 04:41 Lazermonkey wrote:

I didn't vote mderg D1 so yhea...

Anyway, some form of mix of bad, wishy-washy reads, lurking and unlurking at the wrong moments.

On June 24 2014 05:55 YouKnowZhou wrote:
IMO, in a way Lazermo's saving grace is his utterly nonsensical vote on me:

There was NO CHANCE this vote would lynch me, based on when he made it. There's also no chance that this vote would possibly look good if he was scum. I could imagine town being like "w/e fuck it I'm voting who I want even if it makes no difference" but I can't imagine scum making such a boneheaded move. There's no chance to save mderg there, and if he's scum he knows mderg will flip scum. Why make a move like that? Sure, it's not like some amazing pro-town vote, especially since it's on me and not mderg, but look at the thought process here.

Imagine your'e Lazermo. You post a lot, you read the thread, but you're not particulariy "with it". You think YKZ is scum overt mderg, who is CLEARLY town. You try some shenannies onto like VE but that doesn't work out, and in the end you realize your vote will make no difference. Your townread, mderg, is getting lynched, and the counterwagon is your scumread, YKZ. It's too late. You can't do a thing. All you have left is a final act of defiance, futile defiance, but defiance nonetheless. You cast your worthless vote.

That makes sense to me. I see that.

Now, imagine you're scum Lazermo. Your scumbuddy mderg is getting lynched, and the counterwagon is a townie. Your vote is parked on VE, a nonconsequential wagon. You literally can't save mderg, and voting ykz will only make you look bad. Do you vote ykz? of course not! You're not a moron.

So, this vote makes Lazermo town.

On June 24 2014 07:07 YouKnowZhou wrote:


There is no "oh scum wouldn't do that" manoeuvre though, that's just wifom. You're just saying "this thing that only makes sense for a townie to do, makes sense for scum to do because it makes sense for a townie to do", but I'm talking about mindset here. Look, it's plausible that LM decided to do something insane that provides no tangible benefit, lots of potential downside, and plenty of potential getting-lynched-tomorrow-side, as scum, on the off chance we'd have this convo. Typically though, that's not how scum rolls.

And regarding vote count confusion, here's where the last vote count was: (link). Mderg had 5 votes, and I had 3.

Mderg votes me, bringing me up to 4. Then LM votes me, bringing me up to 5, at the last second, and sincee mderg hit 5 first, mderg is lynched. Now, it's possible LM was a confused scum, but the only other vote that happened in the final 10 minutes of the game was Mderg's. If Mderg and LM were scum together, Mderg and LM would be in the QT and Mderg would say something like "ok, I just voted for YKZ. If we can get one more townie to vote YKZ, you can hammer and we can kill him."

LM as scum would be keenly aware of the votecount. It's still possible that he got confused anyways, or he thought another townie had voted when in fact they hadn't, but the final 10 mintues were not actually confusing at all. 10 minutes before the lynch, it's 5-3. Mderg votes me, making it 5-4, 9 minutes before the lynch, and nobody votes until the very deadline, where LM brings it to 5-5 and mderg is flipped.

I think both scenarios are possible, but not likely.

On June 21 2014 09:00 YouKnowZhou wrote:
read lazermo's filter if i die now