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Artanis who is the most likely scum between slOosh and BH? I think it's down to one of them, but I'm not sure which. My heart wants to lynch BH but my head wants to lynch slOosh. Help a poor conflicted brotha out. | ||
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On June 22 2014 10:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Woop woop. From those two I prefer BH. I think BH's scum capabilities are far stronger than slOosh and I think slOosh has played a good game on D1 and N2. I tend to agree, though I can't just let go of the fact that he went absent during a scum lynch. What do you make of my observation right at the outset of N2, I'll quote to refresh ur memory. On June 21 2014 23:16 VisceraEyes wrote: So I have been thinking about it lying in bed. If GK was killed for being so close to the truth where mderg is concerned, then I think a mafia BH would probably follow up the GK kill with a push on VE to ensure that mderg isn't targeted. A GK kill doesn't make sense followed up with a hard mderg push from a mafiaBH perspective I think. GK was getting suspicious of me before he was killed, so it makes sense from my perspective. BH this means I'm giving you a pass tomorrow. I don't mean to offend, but PLEASE don't waste 90% of it blathering on about how confirmed town you are and how godly you are and shit. That's annoying and doesn't help anyone find mafia, not even you. | ||
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On June 22 2014 10:11 Chezinu wrote: Why would you even consider lynching a confirmed town? Chez ur on the table today. Unless you can coherently tell me why you're suspicious of...whoever, then I'd consider lynching you today. | ||
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On June 17 2014 22:37 goodkarma wrote: It is worth mentioning that a vote on you up until you suddenly came to life was a lurker vote. Like magic, a vote is cast on you and you come alive not to pursue any of your reads, but to defend yourself. Would you mind clarifying your read on Release? This is the point you're most wishy-washy about in your opening post. Like apparently unflipped people piling on him gives you townie vibes, while a virtually nonexistent case made by Artansis makes you think he's looking scummy? And said nonexistent case is stronger than sloosh's case? Please do explain. This was the post that solidified my read on mderg - he mentioned something I also noticed (and mentioned actually) and he ended up dying in the night. However beyond this you're right, at the end of the day he ended up on the "mderg town" side of things. :/ Frankly the only thing I can see GK being killed for is either a busted role-hunt or to implicate me somehow (he ended up scummy on me at the end of the day). Good to know. | ||
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 Plx to forgive. | ||
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My play has been, while scant at times, transparent at ALL times. The same cannot be said of BH, and you should keep that in mind if you decide to tunnel me here. Like Artanis, I think the votes make you look incredibly townie, so if you're scum then well played yesterday, but if not then I really need you to know that I'm town here. Don't talk yourself into thinking I'm mafia. | ||
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On June 22 2014 17:45 slOosh wrote: Righto. Nothings changed. Any questions? I'm an open book. ##Vote YouKnowZhou This isn't true at all, something HAS changed. THIS cycle instead of having only one townie tunnel on his resume, BH has now pushed and voted for scum. That HAS changed and you don't just get to come in and throw a vote down on BH without explaining why he does that as mderg's mafia partner. | ||
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On June 23 2014 05:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: If you think wordiness is what makes a case strong or weak you have a lot to learn about this game. Syllogism himself mentioned somehing similar and he's considered possibly the best town player of TL. The idea is that you have to have a very concrete reason for why someone is scum, the rest is just supporting evidence and not quite as important. It's those four lines that you push your case on and elaborate when you have the attention of others. You've mentioned three things: -Taking credit for things he hasn't done -Hasn't pushed the thread forward with his own original posts -His interaction with mderg seems to be a set up to prove he is town. I can now assess whether I agree with that read by going through his filter myself, and I can consider if I think those things make VE scum. I'll do that later. ...because if so, then I'll address them here. 1) I've never taken credit for things I haven't done. Any credit I've tried to take has been for things I've done. If you can point to posts where I'm doing this, then I'll kindly point to the post that shows me doing the thing I'm taking credit for. This point is false. 2) I've pushed the thread forward as much as I can whenever I can. Even though my play can be described as lackadaisical D1, I maintain that I clearly elucidated my intentions that cycle and indeed attempted to get a good lynch with what little posting time I did have. And while it's true that my vote ended up on the not-flipped-scum on D2, during that whole cycle I did nothing to dissuade votes on mderg and indeed pointed out several times that I was absolutely fine with mderg eating a lynch instead of who my vote was on. I've been pushing a pro-town agenda all game, and to say that I haven't pushed the thread forward with my own original posts is false. 3) This is your own personal opinion that is colored by your bias that you think I'm mafia. However because I'm town I know that this point is also indeed false because I set nothing up with mderg to "prove" I'm town. | ||
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On June 23 2014 07:54 Lazermonkey wrote: I think you are putting way too much emphasize on scum relations. mderg did indeed vote VE. Maybe this was to distance himself from VE. Maybe he just wanted to look like he was contributing. Maybe something else. Mderg didn't push VE for shit though so I really don't see any problems with them being on the same team. I have seen scum partners do far far wackier things. Going to bed now. See you tomorrow. Or maybe an easier to accept conclusion: VE is town and scum wanted to mislynch :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | ||
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Just take a step back dude. That's all I'm asking. I'm town, and if you actually get me lynched you'll see I'm town. But you can avoid lynching me if you just step outside this box you've painted yourself into and see what's going on. | ||
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##Vote: YouKnowZhou | ||
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Ninight. | ||
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On June 23 2014 18:58 Lazermonkey wrote: I cannot speak for others but theese are my main issues with you: -You say that Bunnies is "supertown" yet you do nothing to defend her once she is up the blocks. -You make your case on mderg but have no follow up. You say that you think both mderg and YKZ is scum yet you ONLY push YKZ. Its like you want to keep both doors open insted of taking an active stance. -You were one of the main components in the YKZ-wagon. 1) I was absent during the main pushes of her lynch. This is the least active day of mine and this is evident in the thread. I can't push something when I'm not looking at the thread, similarly I can't push /against/ something if I'm not looking at the thread. 2) There's followup. I give reasoning for thinking he's susupicious (you may not like the amount, but it's there) and I ask a couple of times where votes are/why people aren't voting. Pretty standard "I don't have time to actually push here, but I think you should be lynching X" stuff D1. On D2, I make a case (which Snickers will tell you is his case, but I made it not even knowing Snickers was SUSPICIOUS of mderg) and yes, I vote for BH. But my active, stated stance is "I like both of these lynches". That is explicit in my posts, that's the active stance I take. It's not that I don't WANT to make a choice between them, it's that I don't have to because I think they both scum. 3) This is true, and unless you think BH is like supertown (lol) then I don't know what the problem is. Ultimately your case boils down to you don't like my playstyle, which is NOT news, we've had friction before I think. However if you're on my team this game, you should really move your vote off me and onto BH. | ||
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Trust in the beard. | ||
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2) I don't think coming in and poking fun at the way BH is reacting to things a "big attempt". Basically it was just me coming into the thread and reaffirming that I was on the right lynch. I never made ANY attempt to pull votes OFF mderg, which is the tack you have to think I was going for, but that's not what I did and that's not the effect of my "push" on BH. I made it clear that I wanted to lynch both of them. 3) Okay I'll disregard because subjective. LM if you're town you REALLY have to not vote for me here. I don't know if BH is scum, but I DO know that he's wrong about me. I'm town, and I THINK BH is scum. If I'm wrong whatever, that's fine. But I KNOW FOR A FACT that he's wrong about me and you should not lynch me. | ||
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