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HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 02:19 GMT
#86
Last game chrom was pretty chatty, now he wants to lie low. ??? Scum much?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 02:22 GMT
#90
Counter counter point: he was town last game, but we shouldnt really drag other games in
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 02:25 GMT
#96
On May 27 2014 11:24 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Hi haru! (did you get your name from the korean word 하루?)
you need to think up of a condition for yourself, or if you prefer, we shall think one up for you!

p.s. zis is hard, putting z in every post.


Close but no cigar, I took it from animes.

How about everytime I'm questioned, I'll answer it with a rap?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 02:28 GMT
#103
On May 27 2014 11:26 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Sure!
Haru, how much experience have you had in playing mafiaz?



I realised I can't rap, so here I go:

I only lurk
And only look
In tl where I lurk and murk
I play mafia
In warcraft 3
Where I wait for 2 hours for 1 game
Yo yo yo
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 02:34 GMT
#109
On May 27 2014 11:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Guys, i really think jabber slipped here. Think about it, if he could put suspicion on chrom for playing differently, saying he was hiring an assasain last game, and could also be one this game, then we could fall for it.

The fact that he didn't know we knew who were tugging the buttons last game, he thought he could get away with it.


Well wham, bam, and thank you mam, we found one boys.


3/13 chance gamble anyone? ## Vote: jabberwockzerg
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 02:38 GMT
#112
On May 27 2014 11:35 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 11:34 HaruRH wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Guys, i really think jabber slipped here. Think about it, if he could put suspicion on chrom for playing differently, saying he was hiring an assasain last game, and could also be one this game, then we could fall for it.

The fact that he didn't know we knew who were tugging the buttons last game, he thought he could get away with it.


Well wham, bam, and thank you mam, we found one boys.


3/13 chance gamble anyone? ## Vote: jabberwockzerg

I don't like this.
If you're town, shouldn't it be a 3/12 chance?
Haru, what do you have to say about zat?


I realised I calculated wrongly
If I'm townie it would be 3/12
Its an honest, honest, honest
A very honest mistake yo
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 02:56 GMT
#130
On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them


I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 02:58 GMT
#132
On May 27 2014 11:52 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Mine is hard. I just have to sneak them in somehow.
I like how jabber's name includes a z. That makes it a lot ez-er.


Rapping every answer to a directed question is harder. Is it too late to plead for mercy
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 02:59 GMT
#137
On May 27 2014 11:57 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Haru, why are you helping jabberwockzerg defend himself?


I suggested a way for
For him to get out now
Before he gets flaked so hard
He dont want to post right now
It is better for us all
Not to hate on one
Before the game even really started
We should first have fun
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 03:01 GMT
#138
On May 27 2014 11:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 11:56 HaruRH wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them


I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly


I dont understand how this post had anything to do with what my case was on him?


Nothing to do with it at all, just a crap post with no meaning other than for jabber to not feel so awkward with every post he makes
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 03:03 GMT
#142
On May 27 2014 12:01 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 11:59 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:55 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
You know what? I think that bunniez has the easiest rule so far.


I don't know about that. Once the game gets started, watch how difficult it will be for me to start calling people killing off the birds.

You could just say 'scum'.
Just sayingz.


Can i? Cause it seemed by his post that saying speaking of the vikings down under in anyway is against the rules.


Your euphemisms are fun, don't use the word scum!
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 03:07 GMT
#144
On May 27 2014 12:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 12:01 HaruRH wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:56 HaruRH wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them


I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly


I dont understand how this post had anything to do with what my case was on him?


Nothing to do with it at all, just a crap post with no meaning other than for jabber to not feel so awkward with every post he makes


To me, it seemed as if you were coaching him to change the topic in order to get pressure off of him.

Why would you want to do that?


I play with no targets in mind
For the first day where it is still fun
I only suspect
But I do not attack
I will not paint a target on the first day
Because tails only show at night
And thus we can hang those who
Are deduced to be one next day
No need to pressure in the first day, in my view
Lynching him is still our aim, thus I will
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 03:14 GMT
#147
On May 27 2014 12:12 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 12:04 jabberwockzerg wrote:
On May 27 2014 12:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 27 2014 12:01 HaruRH wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:56 HaruRH wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them


I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly


I dont understand how this post had anything to do with what my case was on him?


Nothing to do with it at all, just a crap post with no meaning other than for jabber to not feel so awkward with every post he makes


To me, it seemed as if you were coaching him to change the topic in order to get pressure off of him.

Why would you want to do that?

You're doing an awful lot of finger pointing for day 1


It's not finger pointing.
It's how I get my reads.

If i find a post that seems like its sniffing the bishop, I'll point it out, question it, and get the reactions from whoever the post was pointed towards or the rest of people's reactions.

But how is his post not hugging the sandwich maker?!

He basically said you need to change the subject if you dont want to seem beating the chess game,


You dont want to seem beating the chess game ON THE FIRST MOVE though. Just throwing that out
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 06:51 GMT
#165
On May 27 2014 15:33 Amiko wrote:
@slOosh re: Alakaslam style of posting
Slam’s posting is usually fun, but occasionally frustrating since it’s not always clear what he means, so it can be hard to draw a read from that. I don’t think it is inherently bad

On Jabberwockzerg
I felt jabber’s first post was a bit odd because he copied his post from the prior game (where he was scum) and I feel like he might have a different opening if he was town.
I also think bunnies may be onto something, but I’m not sure if her post (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?page=6#106) realizes the more damning point or not (it’s sorta weirdly written) so I’ll write it just in case. To me, what is suspicious about jabber’s post is that he suggested a player was mafia last game, but he knew that the player was not mafia last game. In other words, he offered a scenario as a counterpoint that he knew to be false.
It’d be fine if he said he was just raising the point as a possibility, but his answer (that he didn’t know it was public information) doesn’t look so hot. I’m not convinced on him yet, but I want to pursue this.

@Jabberwockzerg: 27ninjabunnies has raised a point regarding your play that she argues shows you are mafia. You also posted that she was doing a lot of finger pointing on day one.
Do you think her point on you is good?
Do you feel that her raising that point makes her more likely to be town or mafia?

@fuba and @HaruRH: You joined the vote on jabberwockzerg. I understand that you agree with bunnies’ point on him – what do you think of jabberwockzerg’s responses after bunnies’ vote? Do they feel more town or scum to you?

aside
@HaruRH: This is not game-oriented, but I really like the “God Knows” song from Haruhi and love to sing it in karaoke :D


what I understood from all jabber's responses are either a high level of newbie play, or scum. I will provide examples later after I get on a computer.

Will not unvote until jabber defends himself convincingly
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 11:11 GMT
#179
On May 27 2014 12:15 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 12:12 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 27 2014 12:04 jabberwockzerg wrote:
On May 27 2014 12:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 27 2014 12:01 HaruRH wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:56 HaruRH wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them


I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly


I dont understand how this post had anything to do with what my case was on him?


Nothing to do with it at all, just a crap post with no meaning other than for jabber to not feel so awkward with every post he makes


To me, it seemed as if you were coaching him to change the topic in order to get pressure off of him.

Why would you want to do that?

You're doing an awful lot of finger pointing for day 1


It's not finger pointing.
It's how I get my reads.

If i find a post that seems like its sniffing the bishop, I'll point it out, question it, and get the reactions from whoever the post was pointed towards or the rest of people's reactions.

But how is his post not hugging the sandwich maker?!

He basically said you need to change the subject if you dont want to seem beating the chess game,

If we're both mafia, wouldn't he have told me that in the QT?


wait what?

scum or newbie mistakes?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 11:14 GMT
#180
On May 27 2014 11:24 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 11:22 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:20 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Counter point: he could have been super into last game because he was mafia, and isn't as into being vanilla town.

Nope. Last game, you, amiko, and epi was mafia.
Zat counter point is invalid.

Didn't realize that was public information
My bad


This may have been used as evidence for the past 5 pages, but it still raises eyebrows. Why would you accuse someone of being mafia last game when you clearly know who is mafia last game?

On May 27 2014 11:50 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 11:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:20 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Counter point: he could have been super into last game because he was mafia, and isn't as into being vanilla town.


So let me spell it out. It has to do with this post here.

You were a squirrel eating nuts last game, were you not?

Yet here, you say he could have been super into the last game because he was also sniffing the maple.

Yet, he wasnt. You were. And you didnt know that that knowledge was made public to us.

So either you are defending Chrom/slightly bussing here because he is your partner in crime, or you are again down among the badgers as you said chrom was leading more towards being a grim reaper in a town full of sickness, and you want to get him lynched.

Clearing this up, I didn't mean mafia specifically, just non vanilla. Was this bad wording? Yes. Stupid of me? Yes. Learning experience, definitely


Didn't mean mafia, but meant non-vanilla... wait, he said he could have been super into last game because he was mafia.

On May 27 2014 11:56 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 11:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:50 jabberwockzerg wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:20 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Counter point: he could have been super into last game because he was mafia, and isn't as into being vanilla town.


So let me spell it out. It has to do with this post here.

You were a squirrel eating nuts last game, were you not?

Yet here, you say he could have been super into the last game because he was also sniffing the maple.

Yet, he wasnt. You were. And you didnt know that that knowledge was made public to us.

So either you are defending Chrom/slightly bussing here because he is your partner in crime, or you are again down among the badgers as you said chrom was leading more towards being a grim reaper in a town full of sickness, and you want to get him lynched.

Clearing this up, I didn't mean mafia specifically, just non vanilla. Was this bad wording? Yes. Stupid of me? Yes. Learning experience, definitely


Hmmm, just because you are vanilla town doesnt give you the right to be lurkish and not into the game :p

This doesnt give you a pass. Sorry

Essentially, at that point in the game I was just spitballing.


Then, he defends his claim by saying he was crapping.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 12:24 GMT
#186
On May 27 2014 21:07 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 11:56 HaruRH wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them


I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly

I don't like this choice of words so soon after you voted him, though. This makes it seem like you know he is town.



He was pretty much playing like a newbie to me and he is leaning heavily towards mafia for me. Anything else he says won't change anything about that decision, so the best decision in my opinion was to leave before he screws up his day 1.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 27 2014 23:35 GMT
#316
On May 28 2014 05:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 05:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 05:07 Amiko wrote:
On May 28 2014 04:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I would personally really like to hear more from harurh.

And fuba


This is your second post. I would like to hear more from you.

What do you think about the argument that jabberwock's comment would not come from scum or mafia?

In your first post it seems like you suspect players who are defensive of jabberwock, and you mention fuba and haru.

What are your thoughts on mderg?
Alakazam says that mderg's points on jabberwock were not specific (see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?page=13#247). Do you agree or disagree?


EBWOP:
I think jwz is most likely just a noob scum who slipped, his comment make most sense from a mafia point of view.

I find fuba and haru to be suspicious because of the manner they defend jwz, they don't come out strongly against the case but are instead content to make vague statements of disagreement while not doing anything to rock the boat.

I disagree with slam, I think mderg has been jwz's best defender thus far and I like him for it because he's had the balls to stand by his opinion unlike fuba and haru. I think mderg is wrong but the way he presents his arguments comes off town to me.


He smelt like a case of townie having a bad play in the beginning, thus I attributed it to newbie mistakes and tried to help him - a bit. However, his replies were beyond bad, they were scummy or just a very bad town play. No need to hesitate on the decision now. Although I agree that most day 1 lynches will be a flop, but this is the strongest scum case now and most likely to be correct.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 28 2014 04:00 GMT
#414
Sqrt is always questioning for some reason or the other.

Chromatically is a town read for me.

Only mderg with his weird explanations seem to be a possible scumread.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
May 28 2014 05:14 GMT
#423
Given that mz is just throwing out that everyone is mafia, he suddenly told sqrt to pipe it down so as to avoid his suspicion. Irony?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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