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Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 02 2014 20:37 GMT
#958
@sqrt-
I remember you were scumreading Palmar somewhat when he voted on bunnies early and questioned his reasons.

Why did you react differently when bunnies voted you early (you didn't ask if bunnies was serious, etc.)?
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 02 2014 20:37 GMT
#959
(That's discussing d1)
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 02 2014 20:46 GMT
#962
I mean it's possible but I don't see why it's compelling either way.
- Maybe he's attacking the people because he wants them to appear towny.
- Maybe he's attacking the people because he thinks it will make him seem more towny.
- Maybe he put one mafia in his list, maybe two.
There's no reliable way to figure out his intentions, so I don't really feel that it's useful to pry that deeply into them.

If you really want to focus on players' last words, why aren't you looking at town players instead?
> What do you think of Chrom's pre-death reads?
> What about bunnies' pre-death reads?
Compared to slOosh, at least you know these players were probably giving their honest reads.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 02 2014 21:00 GMT
#963
On June 03 2014 05:40 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 05:37 Amiko wrote:
@sqrt-
I remember you were scumreading Palmar somewhat when he voted on bunnies early and questioned his reasons.

Why did you react differently when bunnies voted you early (you didn't ask if bunnies was serious, etc.)?

b/c that was obviously joking? First post?


I really exactly disagree, but I thought Palmar's XD case was joking, too.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 02 2014 21:00 GMT
#964
EBWOP: I don't exactly disagree
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 02 2014 21:47 GMT
#966
On June 03 2014 06:44 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 05:46 Amiko wrote:
I mean it's possible but I don't see why it's compelling either way.
- Maybe he's attacking the people because he wants them to appear towny.
- Maybe he's attacking the people because he thinks it will make him seem more towny.
- Maybe he put one mafia in his list, maybe two.
There's no reliable way to figure out his intentions, so I don't really feel that it's useful to pry that deeply into them.

If you really want to focus on players' last words, why aren't you looking at town players instead?
> What do you think of Chrom's pre-death reads?
> What about bunnies' pre-death reads?
Compared to slOosh, at least you know these players were probably giving their honest reads.

This is exactly what I think about that.


On June 01 2014 22:41 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 22:27 HaruRH wrote:
EBWOP

sloosh mentioned gooble as his primary target after he is lynched -> turned out to be mafia indeed.

slosh mentioned MZ as his second target ->???

OK this sounds logical. Even though it´s purely association based.


Clarify?
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 02 2014 23:58 GMT
#973
@sqrt:
I mostly disagree with you. I mean, there's no certainty that scum will kill someone because they are right.
(Though, I do think that tends to be the case on day 1, at least)
But even if you don't know if the town is right, you can still look at their filters and see if they made points that might have made the mafia decide to kill them.

Ex: consider Chromatically's last couple of posts.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?user=Chromatically&page=3
His top three scum were:
(1) slOosh
(2) M_Z
(3) gobble
If you were scum and saw that, don't you think he might make for a tempting n1 kill?

I don't find reviewing bunnies' filter to be useful, though. Since she didn't read d2, and her last post (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?page=44#867) is pretty inconclusive imo.
About all I can say is that she didn't think fuba was scum. But I don't even know if this is helpful; my suspicion of fuba is mostly from d2 (which I guess she didn't read) so I feel like her post doesn't give us as much to work with.

Scum filters can help too, you are right.
But, I feel like the most useful stuff is things you recognize as slips in retrospect...
I think a post from scum when that player is gaining votes and is a likely lynch is just too wifomy.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 02 2014 23:59 GMT
#974
@Palmar / @Haru / @Alakaslam:
Do you think mderg is buddying me? Or do his posts feel natural to you?
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 03 2014 00:28 GMT
#976
The only things you have to do are die and pay taxes.

I'm not even sure about that second part in Iceland.

(but it's the first part I'm more interested in anyway)
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 03 2014 00:30 GMT
#977
@Palmar
Are there other games you've played where you are lazy in a way similar to this?
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 03 2014 00:31 GMT
#978
Eh, I guess you were kind of similar in Catastrophe (not trying to get more points when that was your win condition), but that was a big game, anything smaller?
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 03 2014 02:44 GMT
#981
Two people that (imo) aren't likely night kills (sqrt and haru) both have Palmar as the second highest scumread after M_Z.
If we hit wrong on M_Z, then Palmar is someone who should get attention, and given that he is barely playing it seems to me that it'd be better to try to get him to play now instead of later.

I don't really see why we need to wait for tomorrow to ask questions.
I recognize if Palmar/Alakaslam don't really want to play mafia, I can't make them play the game.
If M_Z flips scum, fine. If not, I'll certainly have this interaction to consider too.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 03 2014 06:07 GMT
#983
I don't have anything nice to say right now.
I don't like it when more than one player is useless because then I can't really find scum based on who is useless.
Hopefully M_Z is scum so I don't have to play this game any more.

Sqrt, if you feel like playing this game you can talk about this post-
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?page=49#973

I guess something else to talk about is, you clear fuba based on his posts to gobble.
What do you think about Palmar's interactions with gobble?
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 03 2014 16:06 GMT
#989
@Haru:
Last night, your preferred lynches seemed to be
(1) Lynch everyone on slOosh's death list (which I still think is vague)
(2) Lynch M_Z into Palmar

I can at least agree that M_Z is on slOosh's death list.
Palmar is only sort of on the list (he's mentioned tangentially when discussing bunnies). Fuba and me are both mentioned in more detail on the list.

So, can you tell me why you want to lynch Palmar over Fuba?
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 03 2014 21:40 GMT
#998
On June 04 2014 06:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was thinking about letting myself be modkilled so that the town would essentially get a double lynch but then I realized I wanted to play in the next game so I don't want to be banned.

There's not much I have to say, I promised a case but it's evident that even when I flip town people have already said they're not gonna care. I don't really have the effort to defend myself. Palmar is my best bet for scum since that would balance things out with me being town. Sorry for playing so poorly, I got lynched in the other game and let it get to me.

Naturally, you guys are going to see this as a scumclaim now, but after I flip please refer to this post as a polite goodbye and apology for poor play.

I'll be here for a little while so if anyone wants to banter about reads I'm all for it.


What does this mean?
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 03 2014 21:44 GMT
#999
Btw M_Z you should still vote per the rules
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 04 2014 00:40 GMT
#1015
M_Z what did your comment
"Palmar is my best bet for scum since that would balance things out with me being town"
mean?
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 04 2014 00:52 GMT
#1017
I guess that is consistent with this comment
On June 04 2014 08:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm about to flip town and I seriously doubt BH didn't mess with the teams a bit.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 04 2014 00:57 GMT
#1021
Ok. I'm ignoring host wifom.
I appreciate sqrt's comment since at least it helps distinguish him from Haru a bit.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 04 2014 00:58 GMT
#1023
I'm out till after deadline
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